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antowinston
10-05-2007, 08:47 AM
hi guys,
i just need some information about the things they say in the game.i have seen some people talking about buying silvers from other websites.is that realy true. if that is true can u tell me the way to do it. i am broke in the game because of that stupid way to enchatance the weopens.so i need silvers. plz guys if u can, help me.


(just a request to the Gms. plz change the way to enchatance weopens.)

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 08:50 AM
hi guys,
i just need some information about the things they say in the game.i have seen some people talking about buying silvers from other websites.is that realy true. if that is true can u tell me the way to do it. i am broke in the game because of that stupid way to enchatance the weopens.so i need silvers. plz guys if u can, help me.


(just a request to the Gms. plz change the way to enchatance weopens.)


Buying silvers is highly frowned upon by both the Outspark Staff and fellow players. Not only because its against TOS (Terms of Service) and can get your account banned, but it can also leave your computer and/or your Fiesta account open to be hacked and overtaken by such parties at a later time.

And I hope you like spam, because you will get a LOT of it once you give them an email address, even if to just ask a question.

I would ask you to think twice about purchasing silver from such sites that are illegally adverising in game. Not only does it hurt the in-game economy but it can also directly affect your ability to continue playing the game.

Edit: PS - a rule of thumb on enhancement: DON'T TRY TO ENHANCE if you can't afford to lose it. :-P

Gravvi
10-05-2007, 08:50 AM
u can buy silver from websites but it is techinically against the rules.

antowinston
10-05-2007, 08:55 AM
thanks for the reply guys. i did not know it was agianst the rules. i am not going to buy it. y cant the gms stop the annonsments in the game. because a lot of us dont know that it is against rules.

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 08:57 AM
thanks for the reply guys. i did not know it was agianst the rules. i am not going to buy it. y cant the gms stop the annonsments in the game. because a lot of us dont know that it is against rules.


Many of us have complained about it and they ARE working on a more permanent solution to the dregs that keep popping up in game to advertise. Right now though all they can do is ban said accounts over and over until the solution is taken from testing phase and placed on the live servers (Teva and Apoline).

antowinston
10-05-2007, 09:02 AM
and y r the quests give only less money. i did several quests including KQs. but i could not get even 4 silver.now i have created a new carecter to afford my old one. the game makes many players to quit the game after they become lvl 20. today i saw 3 people quiting the game

is there any way to get silvers.(not coppers

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 09:07 AM
and y r the quests give only less money. i did several quests including KQs. but i could not get even 4 silver.now i have created a new carecter to afford my old one. the game makes many players to quit the game after they become lvl 20. today i saw 3 people quiting the game

is there any way to get silvers.(not coppers


If you stick through the levels, around level 30 the quests usually give anything from 1-3 silver. Another thing I could recommend is getting into the skills area. Making scrolls for example, is a great way to make some extra money.

antowinston
10-05-2007, 09:10 AM
ok then i just want to one thing. how do the other lvl20+ players make money. i did every quests i got. i did all the KQs i can. still i cant make enough silvers.

is there something i am missing

antowinston
10-05-2007, 09:14 AM
i did that. i made many scrols and wanted to sell for 50 - 100 c . but no one buys it. every one have scrol making skills.

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 09:27 AM
i did that. i made many scrols and wanted to sell for 50 - 100 c . but no one buys it. every one have scrol making skills.


Work your skill up to be able to make Vitality scrolls. Those are the most popular and most purchased of the current stuff on the market. Mine always sell out overnight if I set up shop.

Cuddles101
10-05-2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the tip and how much would you recommend selling Tier 1 Elrues or are those too common and am I better off selling the ones I make to an NPC?

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 11:14 AM
Thanks for the tip and how much would you recommend selling Tier 1 Elrues or are those too common and am I better off selling the ones I make to an NPC?

Elrues are very commonplace now. I think anything from 25-40 copper is the only way to make anything off them. I wouldn't sell the ones you make to an NPC, instead I would buy a level 1 weapon and put them into enhancing that weapon. It'll give you practice and might even gain a few titles while you're doing it.

Cuddles101
10-05-2007, 11:33 AM
Okay thanks for your advice. I'll upgrade my shield then because I made 45 Tier 1 Elrues and they're just sitting in my storage.

Trebori
10-05-2007, 11:36 AM
The only people I hate worse than the bots are the morons that buy silver from them!

TastyTapioca
10-05-2007, 11:37 AM
My only other advice on using the stones on weapons/shields is that you only do it when you can afford to lose it. Sometimes the item will break if you fail, depending.

Cuddles101
10-05-2007, 11:41 AM
Yeah I know. I lost my first shield already but it's okay I bought another cheap one and got it to +2. I'll try getting it to +3 now.

Forbin
10-05-2007, 04:53 PM
My cleric is 25 now, and I just barely squeak by. I've managed to get all of my spells on time, but with almost no cash left after. Of course, I've grinded too much, and skipped too many quests, or I would probably have a bit more cash. Going 1-25 in a week's time is a bit too fast really. I did it all solo, except for a few KQ that I got into.

I'm working on stone and potion production, but the rate of return is very slow. I'm nearing 400 I think on potions, and 200 on stones. All of my materials are obtained by me, so anything I do make is pure profit. It's still slow going though, for now.

bandor
10-05-2007, 06:00 PM
at around 18 I realized I would not be able to afford lvl 20 requirements. So I started doing quests, and soloing. Find the right mobs and solo them. The trick is to find -20 mobs who drop +20 tier 2 crafting items and potions. My favorite are lizardmen. Before them I killed lots of ratmen (summoned best leather). At 22 I have enough money to buy my chest piece armor, 4.5 s I think for a +3 lvl 20 player sold piece. I got my npc shield 3s I think? I bought skills for around 5s.

The thing is most people just do KQ in the late teens. Thats because the slime KQ is so great for items. You get tons of stuff. Mara is much much slower, after probably 10 attempts I got a few hp potions, 1 enhance stone, and finally today I got a +5 axe (which I didn't really need, but I went and bough axe mastery for 3s so I can try it out).

You can level very fast in this game or you can also make a ton of money. Its your choice, balance is best.

My 22 tank is designed as a meatshield. All defensive. I can still solo just fine (the axe might just help with that, not tried yet). I solo to get my armor/items, then do KQ when I would be useful. Or I do KQ to get a level or two in order to hunt the mobs I like.

biggest tip: make 2 chars one for scroll/potion making, the other for stone making. You will turn out a lot more money by crafting/selling than by just selling your junk to the npc. Is there really any point to selling craft materials instead of crafting?


things I like to kill for $$$
slimes (slow ones are great), mushrooms (not fighter, and especially kill fire), ratmen, pirates (especially kill elites), lizardmen
slimes = sbl
mushrooms = sbl/rings - small chance for armor
ratmen = sbl / potions
pirates = rings, materials
lizardmen = tier 2 potions/sbl/tier 2 materials


certain mobs are just hard to kill and have low returns on exp/items. Boars, grave robbers, some of the phino's (ranged ones), some archers/magic ranged mobs. They just do too much dmg to you, or have high hp, thus causing lots of resting.

lvl 20 is a money crunch level. But would it be fun if you had so much money it was pointless? Its supposed to be an achievement to get something new.

enchanting suggestion: I have heard a few secrets/rumours from people who translated chinese...I'm keeping those to myself till I verify with testing/spreadsheets. But best bet only enhance things you can afford to lose. And if you heart is set on a cool shiny weapon, do kq for it, or buy it premade. +3 on a -20 lvl item is cheap and easy, beyond that it gets expensive, enchanting lvl 20+ items is just plain expensive. Remember the more value an item has the greater the chance of it being destroyed.

Gavener
10-06-2007, 02:15 AM
A lot of great advice sept that tool who offered websites to buy lazy coin,
Anyways you level faster than you can make money, just do like some said GRIND/FARM sell everything i see 6000 shops now so buying from them most in the lows of copper now, just kill stuff and sell everything Quests are there for a Fame and to get you to kill mass mobs for loot and exp ever see how repeat quests offer like 4c and 3exp pointless, just grind, KQ are Money Sink i was in one form L6-12 on my archer, and guess what ya i got some good Success ! items, but i used all my potions/stones so its more a sink than anything, just wait till Success items are Bind on pick up

Lvl 20 ( Exsample Cleric fund, im a cleric just a idea on cost )

Cleric Skills, 11s 700c, Or buy the good one and save7s 100c
there are 3 of them, Cure 4s 100c, invincible4s 600c, Hammer mastery 3s.
Well You dont Need Hammer, i hear Cure is weak, make potions so there more saved, so instead of buying skills that are not great Don't, just wait

L20 New mount 2s ( not a need, so many fast and furious types )

Weapons
Mace 5s 500c
Hammer 5s 500c ( Dont buy mastery and save )

Armor
Chest 4s 100c
Shield 3s 400c

26s 700c

only buy one weapon, the Armor of corse, and a use alot skill like Invincible ( hit class forms make sure all skills at L20 are wroth it )

so for ME not everyone it would cost me
Mace Weapon,Armor,skill 18s 600c

And yes i buy dumb stuff, wrong stuff and make to many toons so i dont sell a lot of loot, so im broke i have like 4s at L18 >.<

Cyrogen
10-06-2007, 02:30 AM
lvl 20 weapon comes from Quest Gave, so save youg 5s :)

Ironjaw
10-06-2007, 02:49 AM
This game basically works on the trickle down theory. (Something many economists say rarely helps a community as a whole). High lvl people get a lot of money from quests, and they slowly trickle down the money to lower lvls when they buy stuff like scrolls and pots.

Just save all the stuff you pick up. Nothing you get should be NPC'd. Theres always someone willing to buy raw materials or a finnished product.

Gavener
10-06-2007, 04:32 AM
lvl 20 weapon comes from Quest Gave, so save youg 5s :)

OH Thanks Man really!! im L19 now you saved me a lot

Gavener
10-06-2007, 04:32 AM
This game basically works on the trickle down theory. (Something many economists say rarely helps a community as a whole). High lvl people get a lot of money from quests, and they slowly trickle down the money to lower lvls when they buy stuff like scrolls and pots.

Just save all the stuff you pick up. Nothing you get should be NPC'd. Theres always someone willing to buy raw materials or a finnished product.

For more than a Vender would give you

Ironjaw
10-06-2007, 05:24 AM
For more than a Vender would give you

well, I thought that was a given lol

rustic
10-06-2007, 05:44 AM
Remember - when speaking to the common denominator of the game, you really need to draw it out in crayon and finger paints, and pause in the middle for cookies, juice and a nap.

fundude93
10-11-2007, 05:54 PM
1000 copper = 1 silver

i assume it continues like that



and the websites make money by either using a program to automatically collect things and stuff(rather lazy, but cheap) or hire people to play long hours and get money, i hear some even house them so they can play longer and stuff...


and i believe the hired people are in china or something, where there are so many people it ain't funny(even if you look worldwide, there's still too many peopple, but not the point)so they cabn hire if someone quits like instantly, and they probably get paid super low wages as there are no wage laws in china or that area...

jak0999
10-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Easy way to get money is Stone Production.

Here is how:

Grind on the best elemental monsters (they drop elrue supplys) you can kill til you acheive 600 of old soul, gem, and spirit dust.

(I am currently killing phino / mini greenkies when I can)

produce them all into elrues (takes a while to make but you get 200 elrues)

OPTIONS

1) Sell for 40c each (8 silver profit)

2) move on to lix

If you move on to lix, you won't have enough to lever production to Xir

If you chose lix:

Make lix (3 elrues and some copper (low Q))

you should have 65-66 lix's

sell for 200-400 each and you get 13-20s profit