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somegirl
10-05-2007, 07:54 PM
Vote now! :D

Tsuuka
10-05-2007, 07:55 PM
I think you forgot something..


EDIT: Whoa, I think I'm too fast for the poll...Took like 2mins for it to show up.

asdfcross
10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
I guess I'm the only one planning to go Archer so far ^^

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
I personally am not too thrilled that I have to go through 45 levels as a rogue to become an archer :eek:

DarkShadowDS
10-05-2007, 08:05 PM
I think there's something wrong....You need to say "I am a rouge and i'll be a Felon" and "I am an Rouge and i'll be an Archer"....

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:06 PM
I think there's something wrong....You need to say "I am a rouge and i'll be a Felon" and "I am an Rouge and i'll be an Archer"....

Yeah, well I think people can figure out what I mean LOL

asdfcross
10-05-2007, 08:07 PM
IT is pretty obvious =3

BigCrazy
10-05-2007, 08:10 PM
I am gonna be a fighter after the wipe,but I think many people will change their minds and become an Archer so they don't have to gain a whole 20 more levels,to go Rogue or whatever it's called.

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:12 PM
I am gonna be a fighter after the wipe,but I think many people will change their minds and become an Archer so they don't have to gain a whole 20 more levels,to go Rogue or whatever it's called.

I dunno, there is a huge difference... if someone likes melee then they ain't gonna change into an archer just because.

willowwill
10-05-2007, 08:14 PM
I am gonna be a fighter after the wipe,but I think many people will change their minds and become an Archer so they don't have to gain a whole 20 more levels,to go Rogue or whatever it's called.

Were not sure if there will be a wipe yet and the 2nd rogue is called a felon ^_-. Im sure people will seeing as thats the only way to become an assassin.

DarkShadowDS
10-05-2007, 08:15 PM
Well, i am going to be Rouge...then Shadow ^_^

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:16 PM
I saw the graphics for the 4th jobs on one of the JP sites... Shadows look so freakin cool

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:17 PM
Were not sure if there will be a wipe yet and the 2nd rogue is called a felon ^_-. Im sure people will seeing as thats the only way to become an assassin.


I'm sure there will be a wipe once open beta starts, that's pretty much standard with MMO's

willowwill
10-05-2007, 08:17 PM
I saw the graphics for the 4th jobs on one of the JP sites... Shadows look so freakin cool

You sure it was 4th jobs o.o. I only saw it go up to 3rd and it only has the basic 4 classes with no branch offs.

somegirl
10-05-2007, 08:19 PM
You sure it was 4th jobs o.o. I only saw it go up to 3rd and it only has the basic 4 classes with no branch offs.

Oh, maybe 3rd then... but yeah, Shadows look the coolest of all

DarkShadowDS
10-05-2007, 08:21 PM
Can you tell me where you saw the pic? i am interesed to see it too ^_^
I like Shadows, but i have no idea how they look XD

kimmi
10-05-2007, 08:21 PM
picked the first one~
love the rogue ;0 just hope i'm adding onto the right stats <3

willowwill
10-05-2007, 08:23 PM
Can you tell me where you saw the pic? i am interesed to see it too ^_^
I like Shadows, but i have no idea how they look XD

http://xenepiconline.hangame.co.jp/playguide.nhn?m=pg02d your welcome :P.

DarkShadowDS
10-05-2007, 08:27 PM
Willow, you always there to help me ah? heh, Thanks!

Kim, what stats are you raising? i am gonna do AGI+STR

talltower27
10-05-2007, 08:52 PM
im thinking of AGI STR STA maybe 2/2/1 something like that

Tarokun
10-05-2007, 11:47 PM
going Predictor! sounds cool, not sure if its good r not lol.

blueskimchi
10-06-2007, 12:10 AM
I'm going Rogue-> Archer but i'm really not looking foward to leveling until 45 to finally get ranged attacks. - -; I'm not even sure where to level past 26 since i have to keep poisening everything...

somegirl
10-06-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm going Rogue-> Archer but i'm really not looking foward to leveling until 45 to finally get ranged attacks. - -; I'm not even sure where to level past 26 since i have to keep poisening everything...

I know, not that Rogues are bad... but I think it's kinda silly we have to get them to 45 just to be an archer.

Sylvine
10-06-2007, 02:21 AM
I think it would help to have a list of skills and assets of every class somewhere.
Discovering things on Your own is cool and all, but it would kinda suck to discover that the class skills are very different from what You had expected...

~Sylv

emertank33
10-06-2007, 03:17 AM
question? how come fighter and mage dont hav an alternate branch of classes? id really like to see a samurai class and summoner class!!

DarkShadowDS
10-06-2007, 04:32 AM
Well i wanted to do STR/AGI and not adding STA because i thought they have a good dodge...
But i heared from players that they suck at dodging and they arent that fast...

Anyway, i am waitin for them to fix the create char...so i can really see of they are fast and dodge a lot ...

blueskimchi
10-07-2007, 04:55 PM
i dodge fairly often for a rogue...

DarkShadowDS
10-07-2007, 05:07 PM
What's your lvl?
I am only 21, and Dodge it's kinda....well....i'll wait to be higer lvl.

I saw some pros and cons...about POW in a Rouge.
So right now, i am going full AGI, and if i see my damge it's too poor i'll try some POW.

Kaleidoscope
10-07-2007, 08:51 PM
I'm wanting to upgrade from Rogue to Felon. And I want to get there before Open Beta starts so that I can know before hand if it's worth anything so that I can decide to go Rouge again in open beta.

Seeing as I'm not even level 30, and you have to be level 66 to become a felon....ehhhh. It'll take some time, yo. xD

I think Rouges have a rough start. I'm level 29 now, and I AM dodging quite a bit more then I was before. I'm also hitting a lot faster and my defense jumped quite a bit. So now I'm not dieing as often or as easily, and I hear that once you hit 31 you get an agility boost as well.

So I think it's one of those whether through the rough times and you'll be rewarded in the end type deals. :3

DarkShadowDS
10-07-2007, 10:25 PM
Lvl 66? o_O

kimmi
10-07-2007, 10:37 PM
lvl 66 would be the second job change, wouldn't it~? .w.;;~
or was that lvl 80~? wasn't checking much on the job change info from reinmoth~ XD

blueskimchi
10-07-2007, 11:04 PM
Okay... so i'm like lvl 35 now and i don't feel like leveling atm. I'm a rogue btw, and still trying to reach 45 for archer. - -;;

DarkShadowDS
10-07-2007, 11:29 PM
I just checked in-game.
Yeah, you need lvl 66 for Next Class (Felon and such).

That gonna be such a pain to get there D:

Daft_Brat
10-07-2007, 11:33 PM
I figure most ppl who are rogues will either wanna be archers because that's what they wanted or they'll get irritated enough that only a few of us (the cool kids obviously) will continue on to be felons and such...go us. :D

DarkShadowDS
10-07-2007, 11:38 PM
I just wonder if Assassin is even implemented and what lvl you need to get it....

By the way, anyone know the MaxLvl?

blueskimchi
10-07-2007, 11:53 PM
i'm sure it's past 100 since skills are maxed past that.


Edit: omg, i just realized how much of a pain that's gonna be. >_<

bustaqwerty
10-08-2007, 08:26 AM
yeah it'll be a pain, but i think itll be worth it. i wanna see how predictors are endgame [:

GypsySprite
10-08-2007, 09:23 AM
As things stand I plan on staying Rogue until I decide whether I'm heading Archer or Felon... they BOTH sound kewl enough that I might end up making a second Rogue, one to follow each path... *grin*

DarkShadowDS
10-08-2007, 10:35 AM
I dont see any intresting class besides the Rouge

Pirosavai
10-11-2007, 03:19 PM
Definitely staying rogue to DD and be fast and agile thoughout the battlefield, also Felons look cool :P

Morrik
10-11-2007, 09:36 PM
Hey Piro and ARCHERS are better =P one way to tell

LOOK AT RIDER AND BREAK they go crazy fast because of full agility now do the math

Speed + Range + DD class+ high hit rate = unkillable

i mean HAVE YOU SEEN RIDER MOVE

Morrik
10-11-2007, 09:39 PM
the answer to that would be no you see him twitch and he's gone so yes Rouges have high speed but whats it good to them? only running away

Archers shoot arrows off without getting hurt and whe the enemy gets close they just run back and start over NO damage takenbut plenty of it Dealt

haeppy
10-11-2007, 09:40 PM
Haven't actually gotten to work on it yet (;-; too much homework...) but, i love archers <3;; so i'm def. gonna make one.

too bad it's 45 levels til the fun begins. ;-;

Alezio
10-12-2007, 04:46 AM
Haven't actually gotten to work on it yet (;-; too much homework...) but, i love archers <3;; so i'm def. gonna make one.

too bad it's 45 levels til the fun begins. ;-;

when you become an archer
tell me if the hard work until level 45
was no worth it

hippychibi
10-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I want to be a Felon. I'm not excited about that name but it amuses me:
"So what's your job?"
"I'm a felon."
"... please don't shank me..."

Just my thoughts though.

sukaru1
10-13-2007, 01:57 AM
the 3rd class on xenepic online that it shows is the asassin not the shadow

sukaru1
10-13-2007, 02:04 AM
sorry to burst your bubble about archers but every class in this game is evend out and the gms of course they go super fast and everything theyre the freaking gms your idiot there charcters are specialized compared to normal players also going to an assin has its ups and downs just like going to scouter will have its ups and downs at high enough level assasins will have 0.1 attack speed imagine how fast that attack would be i guessing archers since they gotta rely on dex mostly will only have 0.8 or0.6 dpending on there equips why beacuse they only get up to 40 agi by the time they job change after that they gotta rely on dex also it says they give up all traits of the rouge witch means theyll prolly lose their dodge and extra attack speed from when they were a rouge i for one will be an asasin cuse my friend who played xenepic said they get to use katars witch do double attacks for every one attack now thats even faster then 0.1 that like -0.1 so seriously dont think one class will be bette rthen the others theyll all be the same and for pvp let me tell you one thing its not like raganrok where one class can be beaten by another class in this game all classes will have the same chance to kill each other beacuse of how the skills are set up

sukaru1
10-13-2007, 02:11 AM
Well i wanted to do STR/AGI and not adding STA because i thought they have a good dodge...
But i heared from players that they suck at dodging and they arent that fast...

Anyway, i am waitin for them to fix the create char...so i can really see of they are fast and dodge a lot ...

ok i was lvl 16 and my dodging sucked by let me tell you one thing im now level 30 with 16+2 dodge i dodge like 5 outta 10 attacks now what do you think it will be by the time you get to level 100?
also people who says rouge sucks is cuse they added str /agi like you say you would agi for rouges raises theyre attack dodge attack speed and crit so that you can basically go pure agi except you cant well beacuse you need the minimum pow for shields but thats just 1 pow every like what 7 levels and every 10 levels you get 3 stat points so yeah rouges are highly underated let me tell you the classes start to shine the most once theyre past lvl 45 so i feel sorry for impatient people who went archer and lost all theyre dodge and aspd also felon is supposed to get like 5 more dodge and 0.1 more attack speed when you change to him and you get skills like invisible and dust blade witch are aweswome skills by the way and what aboout evil voice putting your enemy to sleep for 20 seconds so you can pound him while hes dreaming thats pretty cool to me and pretty powerful to bad you dont get it till level 61

hazeofacid
10-13-2007, 08:38 AM
/ranton
Or you can do like I am going to do in OB, and make an Archer AND a Felon xD. Then you don't have to be so worried about which to make! :P. Anyway, POW in my opinion is actually better than AGI for a few reasons. Talking about Archers here, btw. POW, lets you carry more pots around, and lets you hit for more damage. You really don't "need" attack speed, when you can spam skills, that have no cooldowns such as Wind Blow. In Xen Epic, alot of the higher archers are 3:1 POW/MEN. They stop at 20 MEN, because 20 MEN gives 10 crit, and with the Cash Shop item inside, they get up to 20 Crit. Pure AGI, would have more crit yes, but 20 crit with full POW damage, outweighs the Movement Speed, Attack Speed, and Crit. Yes, they have no dodge, but what Archer is going to stand around and melee? Any smart archer would use Gnome Binding to slow the target, run back and start shooting again. Also there is always Syphoon and Poison Arrow, to drain your target as you run away and shoot. You may not be as "fast" as AGI Archers, but you wouldn't have any trouble running away from non Rogues/Felons. Even then, with enough skill you could avoid them too. In the end, it really all comes down to prefence. Do you want to dodge, and run faster? Or do you want higher damage, no defense, etc. This is coming from someone who parties with 2 Full POW Archers, and 1 AGI Archer on a daily basis. Just in the last PVP Event Shiki went 1 on 1 with Jade, POW vs AGI, and Shiki who is POW won. So take what I said into heed, before you decide to go AGI vs POW. AGI isn't worthless or anything, and you can still have a VERY nice Archer, end game on AGI. I'm just saying I myself, after comparing the two, have come to find I like POW better. Make your own decision.
/rantoff
=P

hippychibi
10-13-2007, 12:50 PM
Okay, we need classes on periods and runons...

sukaru1
10-13-2007, 01:16 PM
pow for archers may be better i dont know if its the same as ragnarok where dex gives arhcers more damage instead of pow but for felon class you dont need strength except for the minimum for the shield beacuse you have high enough dodge that you really only need to carry 75 pots at a time for about 3 -4 lvls unlike the other classes since felons skills have no cooldown either except for dopping and blind strike archers and felons are basically the same the only diffrence is felon would have more crit no matter what more dodge and more aspd and more movespeed and where this hurts the archer is if the archer dosent have any detect skills then when felon uses his invisible skill the archer is basically screwed beacuse as soon as felon gets close to archer he can either use blind strike to make the archer un able to move and unable to attack for 3 seconds or use evil voice to put him to sleep for 20 seconds and just take down massive amount of hp and possibly even kill him depending on how much hp you have at those levels

FirestormReborn
10-13-2007, 01:44 PM
pow for archers may be better i dont know if its the same as ragnarok where dex gives arhcers more damage instead of pow but for felon class you dont need strength except for the minimum for the shield beacuse you have high enough dodge that you really only need to carry 75 pots at a time for about 3 -4 lvls unlike the other classes since felons skills have no cooldown either except for dopping and blind strike archers and felons are basically the same the only diffrence is felon would have more crit no matter what more dodge and more aspd and more movespeed and where this hurts the archer is if the archer dosent have any detect skills then when felon uses his invisible skill the archer is basically screwed beacuse as soon as felon gets close to archer he can either use blind strike to make the archer un able to move and unable to attack for 3 seconds or use evil voice to put him to sleep for 20 seconds and just take down massive amount of hp and possibly even kill him depending on how much hp you have at those levels

You shouldn't post when you have no idea what your talking about.

By the time your a Felon, 75 pots will get you, at max, 5% of ONE level. Not 3-4 levels. And felon's skills definatly have cooldowns.

You will never have more move speed then a archer. And no self respecting archer will let you be invisible. Sleep break's on any damage.

Basically, your ENTIRE post is wrong.

sukaru1
10-13-2007, 02:09 PM
yea ok shut your mouth i played the japanese sos for over a year and i have a felon lvl 81 if it didint get deleted and my felon moves faster then any archer he can dodge more then an archer and why would i need more the 75 pots if my guy only gets hit 1 outta 10 times yea your real smart tell me i dont know what im talking about why dont you learn what your talking about before you post friggin dumb *** and felons skills dont have a cooldown except for a couple and every class has skills that have a cool down have you ever seen a felon yet i dont think you have a archer is faste rthen a rouge but not faster then a felon expecially when he uses level 3 rapid run no self respecting archer would let you go invisible its not his choise or not if i go invisible if he dosent see me and i go invisible face it hes screwed as soon as i get right in front of him beacuse i attack alot fast at lvl 81 my felon has 0.3 aspd what does an archer have 1.0 yea archer is really faster then me and i know sleep breaks on damage but as soon as you get attack you have a hard time cliking on me and if you do any damage to me at all i can just put you to sleep heal myself blind sight you and spam my skills this isnt ragnarok buddy archers arent overpowerd idiots like they are in ragnarok cuse every class is even its how you use your skills witch determines the victory

FirestormReborn
10-13-2007, 11:04 PM
yea ok shut your mouth i played the japanese sos for over a year and i have a felon lvl 81 if it didint get deleted and my felon moves faster then any archer he can dodge more then an archer and why would i need more the 75 pots if my guy only gets hit 1 outta 10 times yea your real smart tell me i dont know what im talking about why dont you learn what your talking about before you post friggin dumb *** and felons skills dont have a cooldown except for a couple and every class has skills that have a cool down have you ever seen a felon yet i dont think you have a archer is faste rthen a rouge but not faster then a felon expecially when he uses level 3 rapid run no self respecting archer would let you go invisible its not his choise or not if i go invisible if he dosent see me and i go invisible face it hes screwed as soon as i get right in front of him beacuse i attack alot fast at lvl 81 my felon has 0.3 aspd what does an archer have 1.0 yea archer is really faster then me and i know sleep breaks on damage but as soon as you get attack you have a hard time cliking on me and if you do any damage to me at all i can just put you to sleep heal myself blind sight you and spam my skills this isnt ragnarok buddy archers arent overpowerd idiots like they are in ragnarok cuse every class is even its how you use your skills witch determines the victory

Sigh... I played Japanese SoS to level 133 Assassin. I played Korean SoS to 85 Felon.

Anyways, At level 66, your going to get about .1% a kill. Definatly not going to get 3-4 levels off of 75 Pots. At level 20, you cant get 3-4 levels from 75 potions.

Secondly, i never said anything about Attack speed or Dodge. Just movement speed. A Archer and Felon, of the same level ( under 100 ) the archer will always be faster. Felon's and Archer + movement speed skills are the same, except for the fact that a Archer get's a better bonus to Movement speed then Felon's at class change. You will be close, but under by 1-2 Movement Speed points with the same gear.


Thirdly, Alot of Felon skills have cooldown's. You mention'd TWO rogue skills. Those arent even on the felon list. Scare even has a small cooldown. Sigh... You are clearly out of your mind.

If you have .3 Attack speed at 81 your terrible. Haruka, a 50 thief, has .4 attack speed. My archer, 52, has .4 attack speed as well. At 52. Odd huh?

Also, Japanese SoS and US SOS Are really different. Skill level's are lower in US then Japan, some by 20+ levels.

Oh no, Ive been quite clear in what ive said on the forums. Archers are rediculously UNDERPOWERED. It's kinda sad really.

And your skill's dont matter post level 125. If your not a fighter or a Acolyte, your gonna lose. Getting hit for 10k isnt fun.

FreeBlue
10-14-2007, 07:57 AM
ummm dont rogue go to like sin not arch ?

Trashknight
10-16-2007, 01:28 PM
I am an acolyte and will most likely be a clergy. Got to and beyond Witchwood Forest with my Aco and a friend at a low level.

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Monda- Acolyte lv 32
Tosda- Magician lv 21
Lueda- Intraining....

Valterna
10-17-2007, 09:51 AM
I am an Acolyte too, although haven't decided whether to follow the path of Clergy or go the way of Predictor.

hackrukia
10-20-2007, 11:23 AM
IS Rogues any good and do they do?

hippychibi
10-20-2007, 02:14 PM
I'm just chasing you around the forums there hack.
Rogue is the best job. Just played it and you'll see. Plus we get the Felon class. It just looks sweet, avatar and skill wise. ^_^

Blisscent
10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Felons = hotter than Archers.

Therefore, I will change class to felon in the future n___n

Sephiroth_Rox
10-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Predictors are us!

Gauro
10-28-2007, 10:38 AM
you know theyre aliens and boss monster on Trickster Online

ARCHER FTW!!!

saxham
10-30-2007, 02:51 AM
Here's an Acolyte :) and i prefer to stay with that because is sooooo nice to part, and every1 like heals/buffs :P

Serric
11-02-2007, 06:07 PM
I will become assasin or shadow - not necessarily archer

AceAsuruka
11-02-2007, 06:10 PM
Uhh.. Hi... I am new and want to be a Rogue...:D

hgotter
11-10-2007, 05:07 PM
I've made both an Acolyte and Rogue, but I'm still trying to decide what I should do with them.

Derick816
11-12-2007, 01:28 AM
Acolyte for life! :D Well untill I can become Clergy.

niarf
11-17-2007, 02:04 AM
I keep my mind on keeping a support character. So i still do an Aco.

Kage_Ninja
11-26-2007, 09:23 PM
I guess many rouges like me will be staying because many believe Archer might not be strong when they reach their final advancement while rouges will pass them and become a shadow.

StPauliGirl
11-27-2007, 03:16 AM
I am in belief that the game may change more than we expect...
read your posts....

This is gonna be fun :D

2rcha
11-29-2007, 01:20 PM
I think there's something wrong....You need to say "I am a rouge and i'll be a Felon" and "I am an Rouge and i'll be an Archer"....

hey can u plz help me on making a siik *** sig man iuno how man