Full End cleric a waste?

[devoixge]

hello everyone i have just started to play to play fiesta recently and i have chosen to play cleric because i like having ppls lives in my hands:D anyway i was just in a a kq the other day and we where discussing who should tank.I had the highest def out of everyone thier including all the fighers i told them i should tank but then they all started laughing and saying clerics cant tank and just do your job fool and so on and so forth my question is whats the point of being a clank if ppl always ridicule your for your build.

[aquarial]

hello everyone i have just started to play to play fiesta recently and i have chosen to play cleric because i like having ppls lives in my hands:D anyway i was just in a a kq the other day and we where discussing who should tank.I had the highest def out of everyone thier including all the fighers i told them i should tank but then they all started laughing and saying clerics cant tank and just do your job fool and so on and so forth my question is whats the point of being a clank if ppl always ridicule your for your build.

hey =)! leave them say what they want ,we clerics can be a very good clank too, end build isnt a waste, u can take alot hits without dyin so fast >D! and plus u can always tank bosses , my cleric has been a clank in all kqs so leave them say their XXXXX , if noone of those fighters can tank so u have the right to say u gonna tank but if ppl needs heal i think its better to heal them instead of tankin ^^;;

only my opinion =P

[devoixge]

k ty for the info:)

[skysparkle]

im an end cleric and i luv it...ok solo is slooooooow but 70+ even str build u gonna b slowest killer anyways so ur gonna pty and when u get awaken at 85 ur gonna pull some major agro so end build is gr8 ....unless u plan on soloing all the time i would say go end

so many fighters r going down the full str route nowadays in kq yesterday my mage had the highest def ^^ even though there were fighters there, as long as u know what ur doing and theres no fighters who can do the job then clanking is perfectly possible and fun and an end build is perfect for this :)

there will always b ppl who say clerics shouldnt tank but if its a choice between a clank and a fail kq then well ppl will b glad of ur end build :p

[Klothos]

Taking the punishment (as a Tank's main quality should be) isnt the problem for an END Cleric but, unenhanced, you hit with all the deadly force of a housefly. If you are an END built Cleric, you should have an enhanced weapon (+7~+9) to be somewhat effective.


....but these people you partied with obviously dont know diddly about Fiesta, as one can argue that Cleric's are better Tanks than Fighters are, providing the Cleric can be left to self-heal (This not only holds aggro but is necessary for the Cleric to Clank)

On the other hand, just because you could do something doesnt mean you should do something: Yes, you can Tank, but they can not Heal.

I am a Pure STR Cleric. Before Level 50 or so I Clanked a lot but now I would only Clank unless the situation warrants it. Im not built for it

[Roseanna]

Well, I'm 25 spr the rest end on my cleric. My mage's husband is a full end cleric. We're both far from useless. xD But I know when I should and shouldn't clank. In KQ when there's a fighter capable of tanking is one of the shouldn't moments. They have kick and mock, they're the class designed to have that job in kq situations. Sure, if there's no tankable fighters present, I can step in just as well... as long as they give me a few moments to build up heal aggro before they start attacking, or else the archers pull the boss off of me.

I rarely resort to the "it's your job" thing, since this is a game and we play it however we like. But in KQ, yeah, I do agree with the we each have jobs and we should stick to it thing... unless, of course, one of the other jobs is missing and we have to fill in for them.

[Miazma]

I have a full END and full STR cleric, MY PREFERENCE to play is the full END cleric. Jadestar has been knicknamed *The Brickwall* by fighters who have tried to take her down. Sure 6-10 players attacking me at one time and I will drop but it takes some major fire power to do it. She has around 8K HP fully empowered and she can take one heck of a beating before her HP is even dented.

YES she can clank however she never needs to because she grinds with one of the best tanks on the game. In the past due to the new trend of full STR DD fighters she has had to clank kkq, she doesnt like doing it BUT if she has to she will. Full END build is a SUPPORT/PARTY cleric and our primary requirement is to work within a party. The ONLY time I would clank a kkq is if I was solo because my natural instinct is to keep my party members alive.

[Roseanna]

The ONLY time I would clank a kkq is if I was solo because my natural instinct is to keep my party members alive.
Yeeeah I have that too. There was one kkp where I had to clank. The few fighters present tried and died, kkp was chasing the archers around in circles. So I scrolled up and did my thing. I was in a full party, I stayed in it to get whatever defense I could from the party buffs. But it was then that I realized I was one of only two clerics in the kq. My party kept dying out of reach, the other cleric didn't have time to rez most of them so they kept using hearts and couldn't get rebuffed. >.< I felt sooooooo bad. But eh, it was either that or the entire kq failed. =/

[lalawillow]

I had 64 points in END, 15 spr, rest str when i was lvl 75.
but that wasnt satisfying for me cause i often solo. so i changed stats.
Im lvl 77 now and have 52str/30end/10 spr. i lowered end by 34 points:
thats 170hp less and only 17 def less.
in my opinion its much better now. i can kill mobs much faster und even compare well to others in pvp. i can kill full str fighters that are 3-4 lvl's lower than me easily.
believe me or not but 17 def more or less is really nothing.
the only bad thing is that your blockrate decreases by 0.1% per end point.
so i let 30 points in end for 3% block rate.
i'll put all my points from new lvls in str to do more dmg. even with only 30 points many lvl89 fighters cant kill me when i use pots, stones and heal but i can do "good" dmg to them.
its good to think about going to 25spr for 5% more crit, but i dont need cause my crit-rate is over 30% even with only 10 points in spr.

i think with a mix of end/str/spr you do very when soloing and in pvp compared to the other classes. you'll be almost as invincible as with full end but you do much more dmg ;D
ok you cant kill higher lvl fighters but you can kill mages/archers easily, except they run away all the time. but they can do nothing to you cause of you healing skills and pots/stones.

[Miazma]

I had 64 points in END, 15 spr, rest str when i was lvl 75.
but that wasnt satisfying for me cause i often solo. so i changed stats.
Im lvl 77 now and have 52str/30end/10 spr. i lowered end by 34 points:
thats 170hp less and only 17 def less.
in my opinion its much better now. i can kill mobs much faster und even compare well to others in pvp. i can kill full str fighters that are 3-4 lvl's lower than me easily.
believe me or not but 17 def more or less is really nothing.
the only bad thing is that your blockrate decreases by 0.1% per end point.
so i let 30 points in end for 3% block rate.
i'll put all my points from new lvls in str to do more dmg. even with only 30 points many lvl89 fighters cant kill me when i use pots, stones and heal but i can do "good" dmg to them.
its good to think about going to 25spr for 5% more crit, but i dont need cause my crit-rate is over 30% even with only 10 points in spr.

i think with a mix of end/str/spr you do very when soloing and in pvp compared to the other classes. you'll be almost as invincible as with full end but you do much more dmg ;D
ok you cant kill higher lvl fighters but you can kill mages/archers easily, except they run away all the time. but they can do nothing to you cause of you healing skills and pots/stones.

Yep that is a good *hybrid* build for a cleric and as you said yourself though it is MORE FOR SOLO. My full STR cleric has no problem soloing or duoing and she does more than enough damage for a cleric. However she cant take the hammering that Jadestar can.

[Erevan]

I have lots of def because of end/str equip and ++ and lower HP becasue of STR build. However, when I see fighters discusssing who will tank, who has more def, I stay silent. Thats their job, to take damage while mages and archers do damage. My job in party? It is to keep others alive.

The only times I tanked were when things got out of control, I did a good job and was praised for it, but I really do not care. Just let the fighters do their job, they are a proud class, they are meant to lead the advance to victory or death, if necessary.

[Julia1]

END clanks rock!

I have 5 SPR, rest END, and it works great! I prefer tanking on my cleric than my fighter, as the fighter has to rely on someone elses ability to heal, and can sometimes be let down, while when clanking i know how much to take, and know exactly when the heals, rejuv, restores are coming and can time my pots/stones accordingly. in a wah having an advantage over a fighter being healed, as the fighter doesnt always know exactly what the healer is going to do in their heal-chian, so might waste a stone just at the moment of a rejuv, only to have stone in cooldown at a crucial moment.

yes the DMG output is pitiful, but who cares, i often Duo with a mage, both with single-killing and collecting mobs for AOE. yes i cant dish out much DMG but i can sure take it, allowing the mage to dish out the damage. the end result is great exp!