Who think Mages are overpowered in PVP?

[thrifex]

I mean look, at pvp a mage can take 349 thats almost half my hp in ONE SHOT. what can we take? max 200 or something. what is this for balancing?? this is so lame.

PLease fix this. it isnt fair that they take so much dmg.

[joradn102794]

ye,i don't like mage...they spam,they die ,they finish the match with loads of point

[TriGoon]

Mages are easy-mode. You get like 3 mages standing on top of each other and there's no way to hit one without gettin a 200 ice+300 fire, plus probably more since there are 3 of them.

If i face a mage 1 on 1 i usually dominate them, 2 on 1 and it takes a little work, any more than 2 mages and they win.

[ral13]

Mages aren't overpowered at all imo, their great strength also gives them low hp. The thought that in 2 hits you could take someone down mostly is really fun, even though you could die in just a few hits from about anyone.


Oh, and with the if they have 3 mages they win, you just need to know how to counter them, 3 rogues constantly stun/poison the other team would be dangerous aswell.

[johnbunny]

UM...if you had 3 people of any combination on ONE said person, it'd be high hell and deep trouble for them.

I'm sorry they're not overpowered, and i'm not even a Mage.

You guys need to get this idea out of your head.

[kazuya-str]

Mages aren't that overpowered.
They attack in high damages but I'm sure their health or Armor isn't that great.
It takes a while to cast each spell and there's a short period before the spell is cast when they're opened. Trying jumping over them if you can.
My Priest did pretty well against a good number.

Of course, this is just my prespective. I don't PvP too much.

[zombeau]

I really don't find mages to be OP.
They do a lot of damage, but they can die incredibly fast.

[blooleopaco2]

Mages aren't overpowered.
Maybe its just your Defense against their attacks?o.o

Every class has ups and downs.
Mages have very low Defense.So,they might have to put in a little more $ for more defensive armor.

[dark_anime]

ONE major mage weakness................. archer...............
I'm right! In fact i get hit tooo much and die >-< and never got the chance to hit them...........................................or kill.............

[xvicex]

Ever seen an Archer?

When you do you'll never call a Mage overpowered again. :)

[dark_anime]

indeed ^-^

[zombeau]

Ever seen an Archer?

When you do you'll never call a Mage overpowered again. :)

Agreed Lol

[dark_anime]

i did kill an archer once 1v1 but it was luck ^_^ (almost died)

[Fuzzz]

Personally.. I dont think any class is overpowerd.. Each class has their specialty.

[ameyzing]

They are powerful damage wise, but they stand around when they attack and seems so slow that anyone could just jump up and go behind them and kill them easily so its balanced in my point of view.

[blake3470]

If you ask me, mages seem UNDERpowered. Such slow attacks and so slow overall. On the other hand, they are mostly spammers who hide behind meat shields >.<, which therefore makes them very deadly. 1 on 1 however, they are somewhat underpowered.

[nate_]

are you talking about unlimited or std? because in unlimited a rouge can stun +4 cheap hits and the mages are dead

[deoxys114]

Lol. Mages aren't at all overpowered. We hit hard of course, that is the Mages' forte. But when we TRY and hit, we are quite vulnerable. We have low HP and MP.

In STD battle, if you get an Archer on you, your screwed. And in ULTM battle, if you get a Monk on you, your screwed even faster.

Mages = Just right.

[justindz]

I've played everything but warrior so far, just to try them out. So far, I like priest and monk the best, fun-wise. I will say that while I'm passable at PvP at best, I do way better on an archer. Basically, I'd say that there are good archers but that anyone who isn't miserable can be decent with an archer. They have very low down time, can combo well and have very quick attacks on land and in the air, plus insane range. Mages hit hard, but they spend a lot of time very vulnerable and don't take many hits.

One other thing I'll say about mages is that the later spells make a huge difference. A priest is ready for PvP at fairly low levels, as is an archer. They get their core attack and support spells fairly young. Thornbush and some of the others aren't going to matter much. A mage with teleport and stone wall is very, very different from a mage with the attack spells and regen boost.

[dark_anime]

They are powerful damage wise, but they stand around when they attack and seems so slow that anyone could just jump up and go behind them and kill them easily so its balanced in my point of view.
With teleport, mage become noticeable more powerful in 1 on 1 but most people don't know how to use this effectively so mage died nubish

I'm trying to see if i can control range of teleport XD

[justindz]

I've played everything but warrior so far, just to try them out. So far, I like priest and monk the best, fun-wise. I will say that while I'm passable at PvP at best, I do way better on an archer. Basically, I'd say that there are good archers but that anyone who isn't miserable can be decent with an archer. They have very low down time, can combo well and have very quick attacks on land and in the air, plus insane range. Mages hit hard, but they spend a lot of time very vulnerable and don't take many hits.

One other thing I'll say about mages is that the later spells make a huge difference. A priest is ready for PvP at fairly low levels, as is an archer. They get their core attack and support spells fairly young. Thornbush and some of the others aren't going to matter much. A mage with teleport and stone wall is very, very different from a mage with the attack spells and regen boost.

After a bunch of time spent in Death Match with my monk today trying to learn PvP, I'm revising my stance. Mages have an advantage. They get points insanely fast since the fire attack does over 300, which means they stay in the battles as players drop, which creates a feedback loop that leads to easy rank. I'm sure it takes skill, but the three-to-four hit unpreventable combos that take over half your health are a little crazy. If you could avoid it using skill, that might be one thing. That would be the only change I'd recommend--make it possible to avoid the second and third hits. It should be your skill versus their skill, not just whether or not they can time it right with no chance to dodge on your side. Monks and priest do not, as far as I know, have any powerful and unavoidable multi-hit combos of that sort.

Also, the "rebalancer" seems to be pretty useless. One team (usually with several mages and/or archers all on one side) will win over and over and as long as the participant count stays within one on both sides, the rebalancer doesn't kick in and you get a blow out match after match. In Arena, I guess you can just leave. In Death Match, by luck of the draw, you get a rather frustrating, one-sided spam fest sometimes that you can't do much about.

[killingspr4]

I think they a little over powered but im a warrior so lol. There many strategies for avoiding mages but they still cheap, just throwing it out i also find the priest to be the same.

[deoxys114]

Killing, what is that image for? If not for this thread, can you remove it please? It is stretching the screen.

You can sorta dodge the 1st hit of the Mage combo. Again we attack slow. It is all about timing and the way the other player moves. It isn't just a spam fest for Mages, as some do think.

[Necronomicron]

mages can do good in bigger pvps
1v1 they will usually die pretty easily (if they dont fight a newbie ofc)

[justindz]

Killing, what is that image for? If not for this thread, can you remove it please? It is stretching the screen.

You can sorta dodge the 1st hit of the Mage combo. Again we attack slow. It is all about timing and the way the other player moves. It isn't just a spam fest for Mages, as some do think.

I was just suggesting that if you don't dodge the 1st hit, then a decent mage gets to hit you with two to three more spells which you can't do anything about, taking a total of about 650hp or so, I think. If you don't dodge a monk's first hit, you can use your talent to prevent any further hits and end up losing 200 or so, max. Warriors and archers get an unpreventable two hit using freeze/fire, but it takes way less hp off and they don't have an unpreventable third hit of which I am aware.

[ameyzing]

not mages but priests those are overpowered they could heal and magic at the same time rlly annoying

[trigonicus]

bleh mages are glass
poke them really hard and they break
:(

glass is sharp though so becareful
:)

[seph82]

I think the same: Mage are overpower
Solution: Or the Gm give to others class elemental armor or nerf the mage skills in pvp.
Others thing: why in pvp all players have the same livel and stats? So why we must exp so hard when we cant use our build in pvp? >__>

[Lightcat]

I think the same: Mage are overpower
Solution: Or the Gm give to others class elemental armor or nerf the mage skills in pvp.
Others thing: why in pvp all players have the same livel and stats? So why we must exp so hard when we cant use our build in pvp? >__>

Actually I think they should ADD more power to their attack. Because as being called "mages" doesn't deal that high damage as are supposed to do.

After people starts to reach level 50, you will see how they will start making ULT mode arenas, so no worries about it yet.

[Thasmudyan]

Mages are at their best when fighting in large groups in STD mode arena, which is where most people are fighting right now.

They're also easy to start off with, and do well against newer players who haven't gotten good at dodging them yet.

And, of course, they're great at racking up lots of WSP even if they splat fast, cause they probably got a few fireballs off first.

So, it's no wonder people view them as overpowered.

I think once players get more skill and practice PvPing, classes like rogue and monk will start beating up on mages pretty consistently. The experienced PvPers seem to favor these classes.

If any class is overpowered, I'd say archers, they have crazy range and speed. But they're beatable too, they do less damage per hit than other classes (except for warriors).

[slimshady9701]

mages are SO underpowered (this is coming from an archer and a rogues point of view) jump when they about to attack move forward when jumping come down hit with best attk piece o cake ( at least that works for me

[Alagond]

Okay I hate to say this, but you guys who say we are overpowered are really dumb =/. Just BLOCK! That's it. Block and you get a hit in guaranteed. After we fire off a spell, we can't move for a second or two. If you block, there's no stun. As such, you guys get a free hit in guaranteed... That's more than enough to kill off a mage in Std unless you are unlucky =/.

[samurai_mo]

I made a mage just for fun and i hate mages

he i lvled up to lvl 13 to get the skills for mages
and i joined a death match and lol i become second or first mostly

Wahahah i just stand still and spam them with the skills
and the are getting r4ped

lol and with my warrior i'm a lvl 25 warrior and the pvp is so hard for a warrior trust me it's hard >_>

[limshanghong]

Its not mages its elementists their combo is terrifying as it have a death combo (Blizzard -->Ice Bolt -->Fire Wall or Fire Bolt

[ola_swirl]

Not terrifying if you know how to block o.o

[cazoup]

man they think us eles are over powered now if fast cast was back.....sigh

[swaggzback]

yea if fastcast was here it b a threat lol

[billomatic]

leave us mages alone, people only used to use them in pvp cause of fast cast, but now its all about trappers and their cheap combos, seriously if u guard u win hands down, cause just about everyone knows how to fight a mage, unless ur a spamming noob who never learned to fight in the first place

[swaggzback]

y u gotta bring trapper up Mr.XD_ Trapper ftw Burr lol

[billomatic]

cause swagg u know and i know and everyone know that trappers have now flooded pvp, just because they now have the cheapest combos. soon bomb grab should be taken out, then trappers are gunna disapear, and beserkers are gunna pop up even more so then they are now, cause then they gunna have the easiest time pvpin with their damn cresent slash combo

[billomatic]

perfect example would be caz -.-

[alexowen]

perfect example would be caz -.-

Caz i would have to say is one of the better eles i seen :D He has amazing grabbing skills also good for his trapper >_> and knows when to use his attacks makes him more fun to play against an actually challenging elementalist.

IGN; Windslayer Class: trapper
Mission: to the caves or die >_>

[cazoup]

:o im not a "cheap" trapper aka stun puppet crap i only hide during big pvp arenas cuz you get lots of wsp/rep that way and thank you wind :) But my ele is nothing with out fastcasti have no blizz ;p also hmm speking of combos cough bliz icebolt fire wall cough if you dont block instant death if you do block your in red if you get crit consider it a over kill so dont bash other combos till you look at ur own each class has its ups and downs its the whole point of the game

[utikux]

The real of this thing is that all people saying that mages are not overpowered are people that have a mage already and they dont wanna feel like a nub that doesnt know how to fight without rlly overpowered attacks....... So yes! Mages are overpowered specially elementalists!!


The best ele ive seen is : i donno ive never seen a ele that show me thats the best mage in the game.

[doki_]

Tamer.
Its'not that bad.
iWas fightin' 2 Trappers Vs Meh.
iStill won. (: Though,our team had a Bishop or was it Pally?
Tame'em either way.

[star4242]

the prob is that people hate eles cus of the crit system. yea i know mages do like 300 dmg but when u add 50% mor to that its just plain hell. 450 dmg to be exact. in the mages defencive. since the glich ir around, mages populations are deleeting and trappers are show it up now. so if u think mages are op well then ur just a sore loser

[ucookie]

No, we hate elementalists because of their multi-hit skills.
Group of enemies, dash/walk/teleport to outside of enemy group. Face them. Fire off skills. Wait, fire off next skill, wait, fire off third skill, instant 50 points in ctf. Rinse and repeat.

One on one? Bait opponent, one spell, next spell, third spell, opponent dies, you win.

Emergency situation, people are getting close? Do that aoe that blasts them all away. Win.

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Seriously, why are you crying about a trapper that can only take out half of your hp with a stun combo and maybe 3/4 or so if he's lucky when an elementalist can EASILY take off ALL of your life from ANY hit he's able to do against you.

That and the trapper has to stay in that one spot for so long just to do that half damage, the chance of him doing full damage isn't very good in pvp when someone will run along and kill him. Probably an elementalist will teleport in and kill him in the middle of his combo. =\