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Miazma

02-09-2009, 08:37 PM

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Inner_Circle Helga raids will be run by Inner_Circle; following are the rules that must be agreed to prior to participation in these raids.

ICHelga Forums will be established and all interested Inner_Circle members and friends must register. ONLY members registered on this site will be considered as *approved* members. The following information must be listed on registration:

Username
Class *fighters and clerics must state if their build is END/STR/Hybrid*
Level

Raid times will be notified ahead of time and if a member says they will participate and then isn’t able to they MUST notify Raid organizers OR find a replacement from the list of approved Inner_Circle/Friends members.

Helga drops will be allocated on a class basis.

1 point will be given for participation in each raid to all members who start/complete the raid.

Drops will be allocated according to the number of points a member has, eg: the member with the highest number of points per class will get the drops. If 2 or more members have the same number of points the drop will be given to the person who has been registered on the ICHelga Forums the longest.

Once a member has received a drop their points will be reset to zero.
Members can then restart their points to receive a 2nd drop for their class.
Or receive a 2nd drop for an alt.
Or receive a 2nd weapon for a friend.

** These rules are a work in progress and can be altered if required.

All NON Inner_Circle people who would like to register as a *Friend* of Inner_Circle please leave your name so that you can be contacted ingame with the forum information when it is established.

King_Obito

02-09-2009, 09:36 PM

DemonBlitzKragor

02-09-2009, 09:46 PM

Kinda what Rika said and i'm 100% positive, other than you guys, HVG and Kath's Server Helga Raid's, many other guilds/groups have already panned helga raids, so, be ready for all the competition/drama to come

Blackremnant

02-09-2009, 09:55 PM

I'd like to be in. I haven't yet gotten to be in a helga raid, but I have my own guild to run. cound you sign Blackremnant up as a "friend" of the guild or something?

Miazma

02-09-2009, 09:58 PM

I would say to move this to your guild thread, but seeing as you have "approved" friends I guess I can just post here anyways. First of all I think it's a nice idea that you have this and stuff but to be blunt what are you going to do if other people outside of IC or "approved friends" try to ruin it? Also I doubt people are just going to let IC have the Helga spawn every time it comes up honestly. I'm not in IC and most people in your guild hate me anyways so I don't really think I'm going to sit back and watch you guys have all the fun when the rest of us want it to. Helga is not owned by anyone and people have the right to go into there and play around in the Tomb whenever he/she wants to. Lastly, I'm not trying to make a flame post. If you think what I wrote was rude I'll gladly delete it.

Think about this, you have your raids organised is there any reason IC shouldnt have a piece of the action too? I personally dont hold grudges, even though nearly every post I make you have something negative to say I dont repay in kind. Just as if another party had a raid organised and in progress IC wouldnt interfere I would hope the same courtesy would be given to us.

Kinda what Rika said and i'm 100% positive, other than you guys, HVG and Kath's Server Helga Raid's, many other guilds/groups have already panned helga raids, so, be ready for all the competition/drama to come

Yes they have and does that mean Inner_Circle cant?

Helga raids is a part of the game where lots of people can come together and have a bit of fun. IC could do the raids on our own but it would be MUCH nicer to do it with friends. ALL of us have done and said things in the past that need to be forgotten and all of us should move on from them.

King_Obito

02-09-2009, 10:08 PM

Im not trying to be negative, This thread makes it seem like Helga is owned by IC and since Helga only spawns twice a week, imagine how many people will be fighting over it if IC and all the other guilds start claiming raids on it. It will be like fighting for spots all over again.

katmeng

02-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Miazma

02-09-2009, 10:27 PM

Not sure if you have seen the thread Roseanna has started about Helga Raids etc but she said on it that if guilds were interested in a time slot to say so. Inner_Circle does not want a monopoly which is why we opened it up to friends. Inner_Circle has just merely gone one step further and laid out how joining our group would benefit friends who do join us.

The one things that seems to be on most peoples minds about these raids is the *drops* and how they are to be made fairer. We have just laid out how it will be achieved in our particular group.

And I wonder why all threads about Helga arent considered as people taking ownership? Inner_Circle is merely taking ownership of how our own runs will be managed.

Rzpect

02-09-2009, 10:50 PM

A new drama has begun. "Fight for the love of Helga"

so how will this turns out?

tune in for the next episode!

Miazma

02-09-2009, 11:15 PM

Because a guild has decided to state openly how their runs will be organsied to show *friends* that join us how things will be run shouldnt be considered negative.

IF and WHEN the roster is put in place *this will be wholey an honour system among us all* and Inner_Circle wants to be ready. I am sure there are many Inner_Circle members who will also sign up as friends in other guilds runs. We are merely planning for the roster to be put in place.

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 12:19 AM

I thinks I'm a friend? :eek: I hopes I'm a friend. :D

Helga drops will be allocated on a class basis.

1 point will be given for participation in each raid to all members who start/complete the raid.

Drops will be allocated according to the number of points a member has, eg: the member with the highest number of points per class will get the drops. If 2 or more members have the same number of points the drop will be given to the person who has been registered on the ICHelga Forums the longest.
Hmm. I really like this idea. Really... really... really like this idea. I wonder if I can work something like this into the general Helga raids... not sure how I'd make sure every head is accounted for though... *thinks and wanders off*

other than you guys, HVG and Kath's Server Helga Raid's, many other guilds/groups have already panned helga raids, so, be ready for all the competition/drama to come
I would like to hope that people will respect what I'm trying to do enough to just reserve a slot on the server raid schedule. I'm not going to be picky, if a group wants a raid time I'll gladly work them in for one. Even if they don't want people to know who they are, they can just PM me here on the forums and I'll put them on the calendar as an anonymous raid group. Heck even if they don't want the general public to know when their raid is in fear of people crashing it, I'll make it vague so that anyone who's not in their group won't know the time and date. So yeah. All I ask is that people actually tell me so I can fit them in and the server public raids can go on like normal whenever he respawns.

Think about this, you have youIr raids organised is there any reason IC shouldnt have a piece of the action too?
That's not a concern. Anyone can have a slot on the raid calendar that I'll be organizing. I'll make sure they're spread out so that we still have public raids in between any private raids.

Im not trying to be negative, This thread makes it seem like Helga is owned by IC and since Helga only spawns twice a week, imagine how many people will be fighting over it if IC and all the other guilds start claiming raids on it. It will be like fighting for spots all over again.
Tis why I'm doing what I'm doing. :)

Not sure if you have seen the thread Roseanna has started about Helga Raids etc but she said on it that if guilds were interested in a time slot to say so. Inner_Circle does not want a monopoly which is why we opened it up to friends.
Just to say... I approached IC asking if they wanted slots for private raids on the calendar I'll be making before this was even posted. And even if it were not opened up to friends that wouldn't make it a monopoly. A helga raid would be a very fun guild event. If Loveless wants one I'll get ya a slot too. ;D I'll take care of the server and make sure we've got enough public raids too, don't worry about that. You know I love you guys. :D

iron_king

02-10-2009, 12:20 AM

This guy speaks truth.

Yay for drama

LMAO if rikapuff is a guy... then i suppose meekachu is girl? o.o? lol sorry off topic >D

bluebarrok

02-10-2009, 12:32 AM

LMAO if rikapuff is a guy... then i suppose meekachu is girl? o.o? lol sorry off topic >D

lol Panther.... Very O.o :rolleyes:

ScoobyDoo

02-10-2009, 01:31 AM

hi~ *waves* how are you all :P

i will return on 17th xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Miazma

02-10-2009, 01:51 AM

I thinks I'm a friend? :eek: I hopes I'm a friend. :D

LMAO girl you an honorary IC member :P

K the reason I came up with this is because a similar system was used on the last game I played. Soon as you mentioned a roster system I put it in place. This does NOT mean that Inner_Circle members wont be participating in the free guild raids. :P

LMAO if rikapuff is a guy... then i suppose meekachu is girl? o.o? lol sorry off topic >D

ohhh pssshhh you baddie PantieKing FTW :D

hi~ *waves* how are you all :P

i will return on 17th xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Scooooobbbbb we miss you :D Hope you are having a great holiday and I know we all look forward to seeing you back with us :D

bluebarrok

02-10-2009, 03:15 AM

hi~ *waves* how are you all :P

i will return on 17th xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Nice to meet you scoob~ look forward to seeing your return :D

sacredknightomega

02-10-2009, 06:11 AM

this is going to get really ugly in a few days / raid's <.<"

HeroicAce

02-10-2009, 06:25 AM

I'd like to sign up on the friends roster. Im currently a 76 mage ign CrystalDawn. I have a couple of friends that are in IC they could vouch for me if needed. im kinda busy with school atm but ill never miss a raid if i read about it on the forums ahead of time(unless im at work).

karvaj

02-10-2009, 06:57 AM

=D more guild drama *yes!* It will make so much friendship beetwen guilds ;3 -sarcasm-.

WinterClown

02-10-2009, 07:59 AM

I'd like to join :o
WinterMage/89 mage

(whisper me on either WinterMage or TheHurricane :D)

Spankle

02-10-2009, 08:07 AM

this is going to get really ugly in a few days / raid's <.<"

=D more guild drama *yes!* It will make so much friendship beetwen guilds ;3 -sarcasm-.

Well if Roseannas guild schedule goes as planned drama should be eliminated as long as everyone have the maturity to respect the public roster (:/)

From what I read IC is supporting this roster and aren't creating competition for helga with this thread. At first I had the same thoughts as kelly and dbk because its not mentioned in the first post. But if you go to their guild thread you can see this thread is in conjunction with the public roster idea (scheduled guild/public helga raids). I'm really just repeating what Jade says in the later posts on the first page.

This is in support of sharing helga through the roster and not claiming, but if we keep talking about drama happening itll make it more likely >.> As interesting as drama can be sometimes it isn't good for killing helga or the community in general D:

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 08:07 AM

LMAO girl you an honorary IC member :P
Woot! :cool: *puts on I<3NY hat and writes IC over NY*

this is going to get really ugly in a few days / raid's <.<"
It's not going to get ugly, don't worry. All I need is to finish getting data from my time polls so that I can start putting the calender together, and people can start contacting me for private raids so I can get em on there.

(whisper me on either WinterMage or TheHurricane :D)
Oooooooooooh YOU'RE who that random hurricane person is that always knows me but I have no idea who you are. xD

Edit: Oh hey we posted at the same time. :D
From what I read IC is supporting this roster and aren't creating competition for helga with this thread.
This is true. :)

This is in support of sharing helga through the roster and not claiming, but if we keep talking about drama happening itll make it more likely >.> As interesting as drama can be sometimes it isn't good for killing helga or the community in general D:
This is true also. There is no drama, we're good. This is just a little limbo time while I'm waiting for the time polls to finish up.

FaytLeonheartOmega

02-10-2009, 08:51 AM

i noe how to share helga O:

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 08:54 AM

i noe how to share helga O:
I do too... like a chicken. xD

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/images/chicken_cutup7.jpg

There now everyone take a piece. :D

katmeng

02-10-2009, 11:46 AM

King_Obito

02-10-2009, 11:49 AM

Andromeda

02-10-2009, 12:10 PM

I'm gonna love when more high levels try to organize their runs and complain about 'why someone has a slot' , actually, i'd totally agree with them, people's free to do whatever they want, in fact, if you get a 'timeslot' it's just one person telling another person to take ownership of helga's tomb ;)

It's just not gonna happen.

No one has the authority to give someone else a timeslot, cause they simply, do NOT, own the game.

This is kinda like spot claiming except no one will be there to make sure no one gets to Helga before another group do. These time slots are pointless the best thing to do is to do a raid the moment the server comes back up after maintenance. Because it only gets worse from here as Helga will become more easier to defeat from here onwards which will mean more Helga Deaths which means more Hellgait weapons.

No Helgas Tomb isnt a time slot basis its a first come first serve basis.

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 12:10 PM

I dunno about anyone else... but when I was in elementary school, only one boy and one girl was allowed to go to the bathroom at the same time. When someone went, they had to write their name on the chalkboard, and when they came back they erased it so that the others knew the bathroom was free. Now I'm sure if 6th graders can handle such a simple concept of taking turns, we on a game for 13+'s can handle the same concept as well.

I'm not trying to bust in and be a tyrant, oh I take all authority to grant your request for permission to enter the almighty helga tomb. I'm trying to keep all hell from breaking loose. Because you know what? I don't want flaming, ksing, guild wars, and all that other fun drama to take over helga. I'd like to see everyone being civil and working together as a friendly server. So I'm offering to take my time out from my life - work, play, family, whatever it is - to do the community a service. All people have to do is say :D I want a raid [x] week with [x] group of friends or [x] guild, Tempy could you hook us up with a time when Helga will be available so we don't step on anyone else's toes? And I go oh sure, well lemme see, HVG has a raid [u] week, so let's have public raids [v] week, and you grab your guild raid [y] week, sound good? And you go okay sure that sounds fine. And everyone's happy. Everyone gets their helga fix. Noone steps on another guild's toes. Noone kses the helga kill and runs off with loot that other people did all the hard work on. No friendships are broken over flame wars.

If people wanna misconstrue that as me going off on a power trip, so be it. People will interpret things however they want. All I'm trying to do is help.

Andromeda

02-10-2009, 12:27 PM

I hope you didnt forget about the time when the cap was at Lv 79 and people had to grind on Ancient Stonies. When the cap is raised to Lv 105 its going to be exactly that maybe even worse since Helga only spawns up to a maximum of twice a week.

Perhaps the time slot basis may work for a little while but when the cap is Lv 105 and people are able to equip these Hellgait items this time slot basis will be completely up the creek. One full party of charmed Lv 105s will most likely be able to take Helga down.

When this happens it will become very obvious you are going to have to camp out at Helgas Tomb for days to even make sure you can get it before anyone else. Sorry to say it but you and me and everyone else knows that will happen.

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 12:31 PM

Perhaps the time slot basis may work for a little while
That's all I'm concerned with at the moment. :) I have no idea what anything will be like after cap raise, I can't predict that far ahead, and I have no interest in trying to. Heck who knows if I'll even still be playing then, lol. All I know is now. I saw the dramafest over Helga on Epith, and I'd like to do my best to keep that from happening to us, for now. Later is later. :)

katmeng

02-10-2009, 01:04 PM

This is kinda like spot claiming except no one will be there to make sure no one gets to Helga before another group do. These time slots are pointless the best thing to do is to do a raid the moment the server comes back up after maintenance. Because it only gets worse from here as Helga will become more easier to defeat from here onwards which will mean more Helga Deaths which means more Hellgait weapons.

No Helgas Tomb isnt a time slot basis its a first come first serve basis.

And your point to quote me was?

Nipah

02-10-2009, 01:25 PM

lawl @ this thread
offtopic: king obito = girl lmfao

artboi

02-10-2009, 09:20 PM

im not sure why IC started this thread, it will only cause alot of uneasiness amongst strong guilds that also want to do Helga raids, in my opinion, if you wanna do a helga raid with your guild, JUST keep it within the guild, and avoid all this drama.

as for what rika said, i agree with her 100%.

as for what tempest said of time slots, i think that is going to be a complete failure, there is no way grown people on their way of think will let this go unchecked, there will always be people messing it up for others, i honestly do not like your idea but, hope it works for the best. If my guild plans a Helga raid and there is alrdy people there, and we start to argue, and they say something about their registration to Helga calendar, pffft whatever that means to us, we won't care, and im sure other guilds wont care either.

Roseanna

02-10-2009, 09:33 PM

I wish people would have said this in the very first helga raid schedule poll that I even opened. There was a "no" option for scheduling. I said opinions and thoughts were welcome. All signs were a green light for me that the server wanted this. And now when IC responds to my plan - and makes a post about something that I gave them the green light to do because I had the green light to do it - their thread gets trainwrecked.

I thought, you know, everyone wants a piece of helga. So why not find a way to make sure everyone gets their piece of helga without them stepping on each others toes and causing drama. But if people would rather step on each others toes, then fine, why am I gonna spend so much time and effort putting together a schedule that a server says they want... but they really don't. If Teva wants helga to turn into a site for flaming, ksing, and guild wars then so be it. I'm done. A CL can close my helga polls.

Hobo147

02-10-2009, 09:37 PM

too much drama precapraise with helga, thats why i dont plan on showing up to any raids soon :3 when the cap raises, ill take my wand and run :D

Miazma

02-10-2009, 09:38 PM

katmeng

02-10-2009, 09:57 PM

Temp has abandoned the idea of setting up a roster system to make the Helga raids fair. So it is now a free for all. In weeks to come when people realise that this roster system would have been a huge advantage I hope someone else is prepared to put in the time working it out as Temp did.

The roster system has worked perfectly on another game site I play and I am surprised at the negative response to it.

Another game != Fiesta

Another cummunity != this one.

I doubt people would be too happy, remember, people is not available every single day, and maybe the day you'll use for your happy raid, is the day someone else can hardly use it for a raid too.

It's better to do this FFA, that way the drama stays in the tomb.

Edit: A poll was made with barelly 30 votes or so?

... That's what, 0,01% of the server players?

I'm sorry, but that idea never had a chance :/

artboi

02-10-2009, 10:21 PM

Another game != Fiesta

Another cummunity != this one.

I doubt people would be too happy, remember, people is not available every single day, and maybe the day you'll use for your happy raid, is the day someone else can hardly use it for a raid too.

It's better to do this FFA, that way the drama stays in the tomb.

Edit: A poll was made with barelly 30 votes or so?

... That's what, 0,01% of the server players?

I'm sorry, but that idea never had a chance :/

lol... who are you? i wanna have you in my friend list. ;D

but, yea, i never knew of tempest's idea until i saw her posting about it in here, cause this thread sounded like IC wanted to spot claim on helga tomb, but was just saying that they are planning a raid, sorry tempest, i just checked your poll, which really has nothing that can strongly back up your idea because of the lack of votes... you have to remember just a smal portion of the community actually goes into the forums, I didnt get into the forums until i was lvl60... >_>

and the best way is to FFA it... lucky guilds will come in agreement inside the tomb.

katmeng

02-10-2009, 10:45 PM

lol... who are you? i wanna have you in my friend list. ;D

but, yea, i never knew of tempest's idea until i saw her posting about it in here, cause this thread sounded like IC wanted to spot claim on helga tomb, but was just saying that they are planning a raid, sorry tempest, i just checked your poll, which really has nothing that can strongly back up your idea because of the lack of votes... you have to remember just a smal portion of the community actually goes into the forums, I didnt get into the forums until i was lvl60... >_>

and the best way is to FFA it... lucky guilds will come in agreement inside the tomb.

Spartaco/Katana is my IGN in case anyone's interested o.o

Everyone at the moment is just greedy 'cause of Helga's weapons damage.

I'd laugh hard if it gets balanced/changed in a patch, and goes underpriced, and then again, more drama !

I love how Helga's filled with drama.

Should be added like an abnormal status, just like fear and stun.

Drama, 90% chances you insult and end up fighting against other guilds instead of focusing on helga, while he/she/it kicks your ***.

deathbringer54

02-10-2009, 10:47 PM

can i come lol lachlan my friend, i take pics :D to post on threads lol, 2 low lvl 2 do anything D:

King_Obito

02-10-2009, 10:59 PM

Spartaco/Katana is my IGN in case anyone's interested o.o

Everyone at the moment is just greedy 'cause of Helga's weapons damage.

I'd laugh hard if it gets balanced/changed in a patch, and goes underpriced, and then again, more drama !

I love how Helga's filled with drama.

Should be added like an abnormal status, just like fear and stun.

Drama, 90% chances you insult and end up fighting against other guilds instead of focusing on helga, while he/she/it kicks your ***.

You are KaTaNa? O:!
Sorry to quote and be totally off-topic. xD

katmeng

02-10-2009, 11:07 PM

You are KaTaNa? O:!
Sorry to quote and be totally off-topic. xD

Katana's my EU Fiesta mage, nearly capped now.

But nah, possibly not the same 'KaTaNa', Spartaco's my fighter and he's part of HVG's academy o.o

I also use slasher_x and Lisko sometimes... for fun

but yeah, maybe you know me.. maybe not. I'm Lisko's boyfriend.

Shadowic2

02-10-2009, 11:39 PM

Closed per request of the OP.