Opinion on mages.

[stephens01]

Im thinking of making a mage. So I'm wondering how good mages are to solo compared to say: A monk for warrior. I like the idea of high damage and such. Also, what would your opinions be of mages in high level maps? Could they survive without a priest duo? And without a priest, do you think it would be costly?

[LindaFay]

Well, I'm only level 23 but I think I do good solo. Damage is pretty high so I kill quick, and putting points in spr makes you have more hp, I've so far never had a problem with my hp on my mage. The only thing that's costly is the mp pots, we burn them like hell.

[nsstrunks]

I'm level 21 and I'm fighting in Steel Cliff on a regular basis without a problem by myself. I can kill Atomic Ball (The boss for that area) in 5 hits or so. I don't really find it problematic to solo on the current monsters, but I can't tell you much more than that since the other areas aren't open.

[skyzze]

I love my mageeeee

[sir_vinagre]

im pure INT and i solo great cuz mobs arent so fast or so strong to kill u in few hits, but in pvp my opinion is that mages arent that good at 1 on 1 but they are really helpfull in team vs team battles, and has im pure INT i hit like hell but i spend so many mp pots -.-' im goin g summoner at lvl 30 :)

[blake3470]

Mages are good when training, but you need a heck of a lot of skill to be good in pvp as a mage.

Edit: What sir said!!

[nate_]

i really don't understand why everyones complaining about mage's potion burning... in my opinion there a few parts to a mage... here are some i consider necessary

1. no defense
2. no psychical attack
3. no hp
4. outrageous damage with skills

if you're not ok with those i don't suggest you make a mage...
spirit is NOT suggested by me as it lowers attack power. try dodging the monsters? they move at like 2mph its shouldn't be that hard. hp potions should always be used instead of adding spirit

[Alagond]

Okay nate. Let's see how well you AoE later with no Spirit. Try to gather more than 3 mobs and you'll be spamming hp potions like wildfire

[fabbio-moraes]

In my opinion it is a great class for having a damage very loud, but bad for your defense and life. Monk has great advantage against a mage and it can you defeat he easy... Depending on the mage and of the monk.

[killingspr4]

In my opinion?
They are a little over powered and dont take much skill to use >_>.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff90/Killingspr4/monstercard1.jpg

[blake3470]

In my opinion?
They are a little over powered and dont take much skill to use >_>.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff90/Killingspr4/monstercard1.jpg

Hate to say this, but you are absolutely correct (training wise). Also, I don't know why everyone is complaining about mp pots. I know I'm only like level 15 or so, but I don't use many pots. My 750+ mana usually sustains me until my next level or close to it. So in higher levels, you might use a few light pots or so, and that is not a lot. Just do cecilia's quests, and you'll have enough mp pots for many many levels to come.

[Madcharo]

Okay nate. Let's see how well you AoE later with no Spirit. Try to gather more than 3 mobs and you'll be spamming hp potions like wildfire

Why aoe with no aoe skills as a mage..? Isn't that kinda... You know... Dumb, as a caster class? :eek:

Edit: I can aoe easy on my archer without a single pot. Just keep hitting and running. I kill everything in 3-4 hits on my archer without skills so a full Int mage, would probably two-hit everything in Steel Hights. Nobody says you have to stand in one spot spam attacking/taking dmg to aoe.

[AmpliDude]

Hate to say this, but you are absolutely correct (training wise). Also, I don't know why everyone is complaining about mp pots. I know I'm only like level 15 or so, but I don't use many pots. My 750+ mana usually sustains me until my next level or close to it. So in higher levels, you might use a few light pots or so, and that is not a lot. Just do cecilia's quests, and you'll have enough mp pots for many many levels to come.

LOL wait till u get above lvl 20, ull see then how fast MP goes down.
I got like 70 MP pots from the quests - burned them in less than 4 lvls - but its ok as i just walk around the map, hit mob 2-3 times and get the loot.
I'm at 24lvl now, i can kill Atomic ball in like 4 hits.

Yes the mages have great power, but look on the other side - they suck at PvP, they need to stop for a while to cast a skill and need to pay a lot to MP restock.

[Alagond]

Okay 1, delete that picture... It's stretching the entire page...
2. Killing's obviously not played a mage :P
They may appear to be easy to play, but that's because a lot of us have figured out how to avoid players and mobs to some extent.
Mages are a verifiable glass cannon.
And Madcharo, I was refering to when you turn into an elementalist or Summoner.
Both get an AoE skill at some point, summoner at 49 elementalist at... well....
Thing is archers attack freakin' fast - you guys shouldn't be able to turn on a dime like that. Of course they can mob easier than anyone else. Mages melees arn't as easy to mob with.

[sosiik]

My opinion on mages.

BEGGINNER CHARACTERS!

They are highly damaged, and are just easy to use.
If you have a mage, your most likely to make something else because you will get bored of it once you find out it takes no skill. I admit, there are SOME good mages out there. But when I say some I mean, 2-3.

[Scribbyz]

Mage PvP take skills. I have semi-mastered when people jump and land and when to strike. It's a hard class to play and PvP; but very satisfying. PvE is not that much of a challenge really. But PvP is fun with a Mage, all in all.

[samurai_mo]

My opinion on mages.

BEGGINNER CHARACTERS!

They are highly damaged, and are just easy to use.
If you have a mage, your most likely to make something else because you will get bored of it once you find out it takes no skill. I admit, there are SOME good mages out there. But when I say some I mean, 2-3.

Perfect that is what i thought man those mages are just to overpowered
The have no real skill only shoot and run jump shoot run shoot jump shoot
>_>

Yes and some some mages are skilled i would say 1 of the 10 mages really are skilled

[Alagond]

Geez... You guys have no idea about mages. So what, they hit a bit higher than most classes. We have 900 hp in standard pvp. A monk hits me for 200 easily. That's 5 hits people. 5! It takes about 4-5 fireballs to kill a monk. In other words, we have to wait for 4 fireballs while they just kick away. You really think this doesn't require skill?

I'm sorry, but anyone who says mages are easy to play has never played one. Either that or they've only played against complete beginners.

[sosiik]

Geez... You guys have no idea about mages. So what, they hit a bit higher than most classes. We have 900 hp in standard pvp. A monk hits me for 200 easily. That's 5 hits people. 5! It takes about 4-5 fireballs to kill a monk. In other words, we have to wait for 4 fireballs while they just kick away. You really think this doesn't require skill?

I'm sorry, but anyone who says mages are easy to play has never played one. Either that or they've only played against complete beginners.

If you're a monk, your steady chasing someone.

Get's old.

[Scribbyz]

On top of that, we are probably one of the easiest characters to hit after casting.

[nate_]

Okay nate. Let's see how well you AoE later with no Spirit. Try to gather more than 3 mobs and you'll be spamming hp potions like wildfire

i don't think ill have much of a problem. And even if i do... so what? ill just take them on one at a time...

i rarely get hit so i only have 2 major issues
1). outsparks outrageously annoying and wont release maps

2). with this new forum design i cant see the right side of your posts unless i use firefox

p.s.
sosiik and killing have obviously never played as mages

[Eternal_Doom]

In my opinion?
They are a little over powered and dont take much skill to use

You probobly find them overpowered because your a warrior ;)

warriors = Low Elemental Def + Low mana + High Physical Def + High HP

Mages = The complete and total opposite >_>

[imjesse]

Mages aren't overpowered, if you lose to one they are good or you suck, every class has it's own advantages, so don't complain because you don't like the class because it makes you look very stupid.

[AnimePimp66]

aw man i cant wait till they let me connect to server so i can make a hax mage !

[DanielRizzo]

Great soloing. Godly damage (I can usually kill an enemy within two-four hits). HP is never a problem. MP is a problem (even with Pure Int, we burn through MP pots/food like hell). You'll get frustrated when the enemies randomly jump as soon as you launch a spell, causing you to waste MP.

[kiritty]

im new to windslayer and mages r always supposed to do massive damage not like games which make them wussies (mages should really delicate hp but quik kills), i think they actually have quite a bit of hp that can just be restored by pots on a pure int build.

but in pvp it took me a while to get skilled. the only cheapness they have is ice since you can freeze and once you get the timing down u can fire ball with them having no chance to dodge. Which results in about half hp down

And we do get targeted since we deal damage so rouges(invisible) go for us (btw for us mages watch for the cloud that drops from landing so you can located them, i've won many pvp's due to this)

The problem of pvp mages is when people avoid or underestimate them. They should not be left alone at any time of the match even if they have 1 hp.

And a few tips vs pvp mages.

1. Don't jump until they start casting unless you can hit them or cause them to not have a clear shot on landing. we really cant do anything unless you give us the abillity to, watch for stone pillar

2. Check to see if mages are in the room, anygood mage should know there range and i personally abuse my map privileges to locate the distance, this can help you keep your distance and know not to simply rush forward.

3. Seriously, dont leave mages unattended, if you know a mage is in the room check your map! ive kinda stayed up top or out of sight for a while, then dash in to people ganging on sum1 and ice into fire balled them. WE ARE DANGEROUS

4. Invisibility needs to be sneaky, im always on the look out for rouges, once im near the mid of map i almost always launch a ice ball, i hit nub rouges easy, they need to swoop down and hit from behind without leaving tracks (the cloud from landing) And watch the mages, they might see you, a problem for me is when they jump and land i instantly shoot, them jumping again usually means death for me.

5. archers have better range and can diagonal shoot us, they can hold us on lock but there damage isnt great for killing us, rouges should help finish the job and i mean FINISH.

But ya just dont dash around mages and try to gang up on them while not falling for traps, especially stone wall since that has helped me take out a couple of people

[ix3mylove]

^ wat he said. i mean..elementalist are pretty good for pvp. they have good combos. and they can kill someone with a combo xD

[deoxys114]

What I've learned about dealing with Archers with Mages is that the perfect timing is needed. Most archers will aerial attack you. The best thing to do is to quickly press your block key. Then almost instantly afterwards cast an ice on them while they are falling. It takes some practice, but it will really pack a punch if done right. The block only needs to be up long enough to block the damage. After that, unblock as soon as possible and go for the kill.

Good luck!

[emopirate]

Awsome info, ill have to relay it to my friend who was very curious about that stat usage for mages :p