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MoloMowChow
10-06-2007, 08:33 PM
As some of you should know, SoS has these random item drops called Lucky Balls, which give you some funny looking equips that have some effect on playing.

But they also have an expiry date.

I myself can't fathom why these items should ever expire. They are rare and nice (not to mention they look good). To have them expire doesn't seem fair to me...

Anyone else agree or disagree with me? Discussions please. I'm hoping that Lucky Ball items won't expire in the future.

Cadexn
10-06-2007, 08:36 PM
i agree with you, unless that equipment you have got some super stats that surpasses all other equipment significantly.

lucky ball is a rare drop, so putting an expiry date would be putting a waste on player's effort on finding them. hope expiry date would be removed in the future,.

lplove
10-06-2007, 08:40 PM
I voted yes. I'm too lazy to elaborate at the moment so I might edit this post sometime later today, if not, don't expect much. Long story short, it'll be otherwise useless.

MoloMowChow
10-06-2007, 08:45 PM
We got two votes of yes, but no one has posted why "yes"

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newraymo
10-06-2007, 08:55 PM
Yes they should expire. if they expire it'll urge you to go get another one thus making the game more fun and interesting and competitive in sense where you'll be more into the game in a way. I can see if it was a sucky item with an ok effect. But lucky balls equips aree really fairly good use equips it is well the worth to find although it may get annoying and tiring at times it make the game harder and funner to accomplish getting one and moving on.

sorry if I don't make much sense ^_^

lplove
10-06-2007, 09:00 PM
*sigh*, decided to shortly explain.
Anyway, think of it this way, while the LB's drop rate is low it's not significantly low, you can find one, two or maybe even three a day. Now, if they were to never expire, everyone would be walking about in the damn things looking like the latest fashion-model-wannabe-who-got-rejected-from-every-company kind of a guy. Furthermore, no one would be making a profit out of it. Today I've seen someone sell a LB for 100k, now, tell me, what sane member with a 100 grand in possession would actually waste that kind of money for it? And just how many members even have that much money so far; except for myself and a few other guys? It's not worth it. Plus, LBs are only valuable for low level user, for high level members it's completely useless.
Anything I can make clearer to comprehend? Feel free to inquire.

Vilana
10-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Yes they should expire. if they expire it'll urge you to go get another one thus making the game more fun and interesting and competitive in sense where you'll be more into the game in a way. I can see if it was a sucky item with an ok effect. But lucky balls equips aree really fairly good use equips it is well the worth to find although it may get annoying and tiring at times it make the game harder and funner to accomplish getting one and moving on.

sorry if I don't make much sense ^_^

Agreed. Honestly the lucky ball drop was the most enjoyable part of the game for me so far. It keeps things interesting and if they did not expire it really would not be as exciting when you come across one, and before you know it, everyone will have some kind of lucky ball outfit. Enjoy it while you have it and then miss it when it is gone, and then go out and hope to find it again. =)

MoloMowChow
10-06-2007, 09:23 PM
Well, i've noticed that certain monsters drop more rarer Lucky Balls then others. I myself want to know where Lucky Balls that give you suits may drop. I've only been getting face Lucky Balls.

If there was some sort of guide or database explaining where to find certain types of lucky balls, maybe expiring wouldn't be so bad.

Tefnut
10-07-2007, 05:45 AM
the expiry date reminds me of those FLYFF item shop costumes that make your character look nice for a set period of days... we never know, but maybe items from lucky balls are future premium/store bought items that the game lets us test... true or not, I'd have to agree with iplove and the rest who say that the items you get should expire... and I'm sure as the game patches keep updating SoS, there'll be other equips out there that you'd come across with special stats that you can keep (every mmo has them :D) So don't cry over spilled milk (well in this case expired milk *lol*) just enjoy the items ya get.

Oh and as an ender... if there would be a wipe after the CB and OB to official release, then the expiry dates of those items you have wont matter ^.^

AzrielWind
10-07-2007, 08:09 PM
THAT FREAKIN SUCKS MAN
MIght AS WELL GIVE THE TELL TO MY FRIEND
I WILL

Teifer
10-07-2007, 08:16 PM
I Voted Yes, they should expire.

The lucky balls are supposed to be mini prizes and to be fair, you will probebly level better with proper equipment. However, for social reasons, it's nice to have a change but it's not supposed to be perm.

I don't think this is something that will be changed. It may even infact be added to in respect of items purchased from the shop, which offer the same bonuses, only for longer periods?

Whilst this poll is evenly matched in numbers, it's mainly a sense of pride that will affect players. On getting that full santa set, getting the full devil set, do you really want to lose it... of course not, but the real point is actually getting it in the first place..... it's all down to LUCK. :) Be happy with what you have and get.

jeskathornburrow
10-08-2007, 09:00 AM
I have an idea about the lucky ball expiration why not have it at the end of the week the bonus stats on the item disappear but not the whole item that way you still have it for asthetics but it no longer gives bonus.

Cadexn
10-08-2007, 05:18 PM
i agree, expiry date should be implemented on a lucky ball. without expirty date you'll see many, many people wearing attractive suits which doesn't make them attractive anymore :P

LordZeff
10-08-2007, 05:31 PM
I think you should have the option of making 1 only ONE special ball stay and not expire but with not stat-ups.

So if my cat ears were to expire on monday but I choose the options "Keep"
than on monday my ears will loose the bonus but I can still keep it.:D

Good idea eh?

lplove
10-08-2007, 05:40 PM
While that is an interesting concept, it's rather risky. Think about that.

LordZeff
10-08-2007, 05:51 PM
I though about it....I see no flaw
You cannot trade the items
And once the week is over no more stats
You can only do it once
whats so bad about the above?

lplove
10-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Perhaps a glitch may occur and something will causes the other LBs to become unlimited as well. Perhaps someone will find a way to abuse them? Many reasons...

LordZeff
10-08-2007, 06:06 PM
"Perhaps"
Doesnt mean it WILL happen O_o

lplove
10-08-2007, 06:15 PM
"Perhaps"
Doesnt mean it WILL happen O_o

Therefore, if it is to be done, it should be done now. However, I don't want my character to be endangered because of an egotistic abuser.

jeskathornburrow
10-09-2007, 08:37 AM
YaY im glad my idea is liked and I like your concept of only being able to keep one so its not a common Thanks! and as for glitches thats why we are in closed beta to make sure it doesn't happen and if it does we report it and it gets fixed.

LordZeff
10-09-2007, 01:45 PM
Yay for a suporter!:D
I hope gms look into this O_o

Tsujin
10-09-2007, 01:58 PM
It's not like they have very good effects anyways. At least, none of the ones I've found yet have. All of them just change my recovery rate a little bit. I think you should be able to keep them, but they should be more rare. That way it's harder to find the ones you want, but after you get it, you can sport it any time you want.

dadakmj
10-11-2007, 09:29 PM
i really don't care whether they expire or not. Besides looks and a few bonuses they really aren't game breaking.

NotaBadger
10-12-2007, 12:28 AM
the stuff in the lucky balls are actually premium items for the future
we're getting to play around with them for free right now thats why they have an expiration date

angelblades
10-12-2007, 09:28 AM
I think either keep them as common as they are and make them expire,

or make them rarer and permanent.


I like them the way they are now though, this way everyone gets to enjoy different special items.

Chopstickman
10-15-2007, 09:46 AM
I would like the lucky ball equips to be permantent; the drop rate is pretty low and even if there are people who farm them most don't know how and even then some players won't use the equips.

Fleck
10-17-2007, 07:09 PM
Here is my issue. I've always had issues with online rpgs because they often lack options for appearances, this game is no exception. That being said, this game is no exception. You are limited and trying to indentify yourself as an individual is hard. I like to put together outfits and while I -love- the chance aspect (ie. not knowing for sure what you're going to get) the idea of losing that acquired item and a possible combination of items you've tried to put together makes me sad. I'd really be happier if the items would stay, I honestly don't care so much about their effects, nulify them for all I care, I just want to look pretty n-n', and one of the best ways to do that is to collect items and find an interesting combination.

That being said, I know other people value them as market items and so forth but I'm not really willing to dish out that much coin for something that won't last. This game is a fun, but it isn't my life so if in order to enjoy it I have to spend a long time getting kron (I think that is the right term @_@) in order to enjoy a short limited period of happiness then I've just waisted a bit of time.

One could argue there are items which can be kept through quests but I really don't think there is enough of them and I think the lucky balls offer better options personally.

sukaru1
10-18-2007, 01:40 AM
lol stop whining after cb no more lucky balls so what ya whining about lucky balls contain sample cash items that will be in cash shop so stop whining beacuse after cb no lucky ball anymore just cash shop and if you tink kron is kostly try real money

Shiryou
10-21-2007, 10:23 PM
I think it's better for them to expire....gives me motivation to hunt monsters to get them :)...plus if I didn't start hunting for them, my rogue would've still been lvl 16 lol...

TKhaos
10-22-2007, 09:20 PM
i like the idea that when an item expires, the stats only go away. i mean, there are currently no back or eye items, so why does everybody have to be a clone of the other? i for one am glad to wear wings as it distinguishes, and i dont care if it has an effect or not, it is still awesome looking

Wyrenth
10-23-2007, 05:07 AM
Expirations on appearance items bought with real money = revenue for Outspark.

Need an example? Nexon's MapleStory. It works incredibly well when it is fully and properly implimented.

Why is it necessary? Because bandwidth, devteam paychecks, and other such things players don't realize exists cost real money.

Thus why they expire. I vote Yes. If you want an outfit, buy it. If it lasts 90 days (MapleStory's default on most clothes), you're still likely paying less than you do on other things, like eating at fast food joints or going to coffee shops, within that 90 day span.

And you're supporting the people who make the game, once the outfits become a cash item. :) You DO want to support them, right?

silververgo
10-23-2007, 11:45 AM
:eek: now way should they expire! all that hard work down the drain! i may be new but that just seems unfair!:( wait... u buy them? well... now im not sure :S

Zyfe41
10-23-2007, 02:55 PM
As some of you should know, SoS has these random item drops called Lucky Balls, which give you some funny looking equips that have some effect on playing.

But they also have an expiry date.

I myself can't fathom why these items should ever expire. They are rare and nice (not to mention they look good). To have them expire doesn't seem fair to me...

Anyone else agree or disagree with me? Discussions please. I'm hoping that Lucky Ball items won't expire in the future.

I so totally agree with you.
Although I have been only on this game for a couple of
days, I say he/she is making a very good point!

Shiryou
10-24-2007, 12:12 AM
:eek: now way should they expire! all that hard work down the drain! i may be new but that just seems unfair!:( wait... u buy them? well... now im not sure :S

in the closed beta, you can try the items for free, but once it becomes open beta, they're going to sell the lucky ball items in the SOS store they'll implement...

Wyrenth
10-25-2007, 01:55 AM
Hopefully the items will have a longer expiration on them (or a very affordable price).

Luka38
10-26-2007, 04:09 PM
"no" i hate when things expire, especialy when u try hard to get them

slayernk
10-27-2007, 02:00 AM
i agree they should expire, but atm there is no difference in what a lowbie magician and a higher lvl magician looks like. In games ppl need to stand out and say hey thats my bad *** lookin char. Not everyone will be able to afford to dish out real money on permium items (why there playin this and not WoW,FF in the first place) for ppl who are like me i dont mind payin cash to help out the game further advance for the better. that being said not everyone is like me and want to support games. anyway point being they should expire BUT we need more armor/wep that look different. PRETTY FACTOR is one of the biggest drives in why ppl lvl up, taking that away takes away possible players.

Astrea
10-27-2007, 02:56 AM
I've found like hundreds. I have no problem with them expiring.

kurosakura
10-27-2007, 01:47 PM
Once you get above lvl 28ish you can find about 3 in a day anyway...
So you just need to wait until then :P

I don't mind them expiring.. and i will buy them from the shop to support this game, because this is one of the better mmorpgs i've played

angelblades
10-28-2007, 07:07 AM
Yeah honestly I don't know why people think these are really that rare..I have like 20 in the bank right now, and items I got from events already on my characters - Not exaggerating.

Also I have a thought, maybe we should keep lucky balls in game, but the items still expire in this short time frame,
but when you actually pay real money for the items, you can keep them forever (or at least for a really really long time).

That would be a neat solution to the problem, so everyone can enjoy them but people who want to just buy a specific item can, and will keep it for long enough to make it worth the money.

Also that way everyone can try out different items and if they really like something that expired in like three days, they can go to the store and buy it!

Personally I really like the backpacks for my rogue, the extra weight is a big help, so I MIGHT actually buy that when it comes to that :)

ZtarlyKnightz
10-28-2007, 09:20 AM
I actully don't mind that they do-considering my storage will always be full if they didn't expire. (I had gotten A LOT from Spawn City on Friday. What I really think should happen is that we could drop them. XD) I'm perfectly fine with them expiring because I could just get them again in the mass fighting in Spawn City every Friday. (If you can't be on at that time every Friday, then that's not my problem. If you're not at a high level, either train, but keep in mind that there's also weak monsters spawned sometimes and it is not absolutly nessessiary (bad spelling on those words, I know. :S) to train for the event.) That's also the reason I give the lucky balls I find to my friends-because I don't need them because I'm satisfied with what I have.

And, as said by people before me, the items expire because we're in Closed Beta TESTING. Meaning we're just testing these items to make sure there's nothing wrong with them.

And I wouldn't mind buying them with real money in Open Beta and Final Version, considering if my dad gets the job to do computer stuff in the army, we'll have a nice sum of money to spend. XD ...As long as they're cheap and don't expire or they last 6 months or more. :P

So, yes, I think they should expire.

Shame
10-28-2007, 09:51 AM
Eh, I voted no because it'd be nice when I finally get that blue lucky ball for me to keep whatever item I get. But really, they should expire because their effects are pretty good. It's like having a 'super' item that looks cool. If they didn't expire the game would be controlled by those who have them.

Odin_Chaos
10-28-2007, 08:37 PM
if lucky ball expires, no1's (some ppl) gonna open them cause they're gonna expire!!!
most of the ppl'll just sell them cause they expire

ppl sell lucky balls for 100-300k, if ppl buy the lucky ball, it'll be wasteful for the buyer

YuenSan
10-30-2007, 05:55 PM
I kinda vote yes and kinda vote no...yes cuz then people would have something to sell for to gain money and no cuz wanted items like cat ears, angel wings, capes, and school uniforms are gone from the people's invo, yet it might be hard to get one for a long while.

Though if the expire. date were to stay, I wish the dates were extended a bit longer...

thakiing
10-30-2007, 06:52 PM
it would be better if liike tha lucky ball expire in a month

Zyfe41
10-30-2007, 06:59 PM
I TOTALY AGREE WITH THAT! I had lots of stuff from the items of lucky balls, and they all almost expired. I don't think they should expire, cause then you can keep them forever and it would attract more people to this game. If they would expire, I wouldn't even see a point of getting any lucky balls and going in any Spawn City events. I do, just because the stuff looks cool, but if the stuff never expired, it would be more exciting and better for the players.

Zyfe41
10-30-2007, 07:00 PM
it would be better if liike tha lucky ball expire in a month
It would be better if the lucky balls didn't expire AT ALL.

dantesbane
10-31-2007, 12:37 PM
I voted no.

Its a waste of time and effort and mabye even money for a player to work his *** off, and then have his reward expire.


Nope...I hope outspark will take it off :)

violence
10-31-2007, 08:22 PM
As some of you should know, SoS has these random item drops called Lucky Balls, which give you some funny looking equips that have some effect on playing.

But they also have an expiry date.

I myself can't fathom why these items should ever expire. They are rare and nice (not to mention they look good). To have them expire doesn't seem fair to me...

Anyone else agree or disagree with me? Discussions please. I'm hoping that Lucky Ball items won't expire in the future.
again wondering why a sos post is in the fiesta forum not the sos forum

Shiryou
11-01-2007, 06:15 PM
again wondering why a sos post is in the fiesta forum not the sos forum

umm this IS the sos forum...

sasuke8
11-02-2007, 05:06 AM
again wondering why a sos post is in the fiesta forum not the sos forum

LMFAO, learn to read or type. either one is fine

Mnemosyne
11-03-2007, 08:12 PM
Lucky balls really are one of the coolest aspects for customization in the game. Their expiration is okay (though I agree if that was extended a little it would be better) because that forces variety in costumes--and I agree, they do drop frequently enough if you are soloing especially. However, I would like to just voice my opinion that it would be nice to share lucky ball items with party members or to be able to sell them. It is frustrating to have an extra pair of wings that expires the same day.

TheCaptain
11-04-2007, 11:43 AM
the reason they expire is that if they didnt we would all have a ton of LB equips and they would lose thier value completely.

The_Soldier9
11-04-2007, 05:18 PM
it true y should it expire if it looks good on u then y cant u have a life time of looking good and wealthy.

KrEstoF
11-05-2007, 03:37 AM
You know what I think would be REALLY cool... if any kind of item could drop from a lucky ball. Well, that is depending on level, of course. Balls you get around lv 28 will drop lower level stuff than say around lv 60.

Say for example you open a ball and get a nice +2 lv 43 weapon. Then the next time you open it and you get a sword of immaturity. :( Then maybe get a firewood from another ball, and a corn from your last.

Anyone ever play Ragnarok? Old blue box? :D

CruxisMithos
11-05-2007, 03:04 PM
This actually sounds like MapleStory's NX items. They would expire in 3 months and then you have to get it again using real money. Wasn't this a free to play game not a pay to play game....

Honestly, in MS, a lot of people are complaining that their NX items expire too quickly and their forum is flodded with complaints, I don't want to see this here too....

MegaTherion
11-05-2007, 03:33 PM
Well I voted yes, but now Im not so sure I agree that if they don't expire they won't be as rare or as satisfying but if I get a cool item I want to keep it.

teenmuzic729
11-06-2007, 12:10 PM
:mad:y have them if thers no value u to them?:confused:

ohboyoberto
11-07-2007, 04:04 AM
*sigh*, decided to shortly explain.
Anyway, think of it this way, while the LB's drop rate is low it's not significantly low, you can find one, two or maybe even three a day. Now, if they were to never expire, everyone would be walking about in the damn things looking like the latest fashion-model-wannabe-who-got-rejected-from-every-company kind of a guy. Furthermore, no one would be making a profit out of it. Today I've seen someone sell a LB for 100k, now, tell me, what sane member with a 100 grand in possession would actually waste that kind of money for it? And just how many members even have that much money so far; except for myself and a few other guys? It's not worth it. Plus, LBs are only valuable for low level user, for high level members it's completely useless.
Anything I can make clearer to comprehend? Feel free to inquire.

I agree with this guys post.

bankli
11-07-2007, 05:26 AM
they could make somethin like that you can have like 10 lucky balls and then when you get an next 1 the first 1 would dissapear

Kronix420
11-07-2007, 12:07 PM
If they must expire I think it should be longer than like a week...

sasuke8
11-07-2007, 12:10 PM
If they didn't expire... they won't be as unique and worth as much as they are now =)

I think its great that they do , keep people excited as they find them xD

Dakantos
11-09-2007, 04:19 PM
no they shouldnt expire, but they should be much more rare then.

Or if they do they last longer than just a few days.

Wareya
11-09-2007, 05:44 PM
Only the more common ones should expire.

HeidiP
11-09-2007, 05:49 PM
IMHO they should last a little longer each time you get the same item, and once you've managed to get the same item 5 or 10 times or so then it should become permanent. That way people don't get bored of the game right away because they got their item instantly, but people who are impatient can have some fun still... and people who want to really quest for an item can have it permantently after putting in the work. (or money >_< bleh)

gigglesofwisdom
11-10-2007, 10:27 AM
I want the items to last forever but Id also want the drop rate highly decreased :p

RhapsodyAngel
11-12-2007, 06:51 PM
I think they should not allow the equipment expire, make the items gained from them tradable to other players(By trade window, as well as setting up your own shop), and sellable to NPCs and make the lucky balls in general harder to find. Because the way they are now, people are getting wayyy too greedy. I'm seeing Lucky Balls selling for over 300k now for something that's only going to last a little while. Since they're temporary there's going to be a higher demand for them, which in return is going to make prices for them rise higher and higher. 300k for a lucky ball that's only going to expire? I know it's not really a lot, but since it's going to expire, you're going to want more than just one to replace the item that dissapears from your charector. For example, I have 2 red lucky balls in my storage because I know that once my backpack expires that's 500 points of weight I will no longer be able to carry around. I'm going to use those lucky balls to attempt getting another backpack or sack for the additional 500weight again. And I'm going to have to do this every week if I want to be able to carry a sufficiant amount of potions, as well as collect enough money EVERY WEEK to buy another red Lucky Ball for that backpack. On top of that, getting the item you wish isn't a gauruntee either, so not only do you spend 300k on the same item every week, there's no real gauruntee that you're going to get what you're looking for.

If they remain common, their price should go down, however if they remain temporary their price is going to go up(as it is now). If they become rare, their price will go up, however if they remain constant, their price will go down(As in ideal). Eventually, when this game gets to the point that people start making multiple charectors they will be able to enjoy the items from Lucky Balls on many of their charectors instead of just one. It's inevitable that people are going to eventually make more than just one charector, and people are going to want multiple items for their charectors. However they can't do this if you're just going to take the items away after a certain amount of time.

There is another option, however: If you had a Lucky Ball Merchant(Maybe a vending machine?) It will vastly reduce the value of a Lucky Ball, and make these items common enough to where if a person's item expires it wouldn't necessarily hurt them too much since they don't have to spend a ridiculous amount of money to replace that item. But like I said, this will greatly reduce their value, and will ultimitally take the fun out of finding them...

cbmarquart
11-12-2007, 08:00 PM
Lucky Balls are the reason I'm playing. The fact that they expire is frustrating because I want to be able to collect them. I'd say decrease the drop rate if you need to, but don't have them expire. I don't see myself spending much time on this game if it does not change. :(

Convent
11-12-2007, 11:13 PM
okay, first thing i'v got to say is that i'm accessing here from my ipod so pardon some of the mistakes.

I think that they should expire for now, and likewise in open beta. But in open beta I think they should have two weeks. I really am attached to my pirate patch thing and another week shouldn't hurt its worth too badly. Then after two weeks it expires and you get one fraction of that item, like 1/20th as a collectors thing so that when you obtain 20 peices of the item it's yours forever. But if you don't want to work so hard for the entire item then you can buy it using real money. And real money bought items will be permanent, or expire but not cost too much so it's reasonable to buy it back every whenever.

I dunno, that's my input. I like my patch a lot but i can deal with it expiring.

astilegnave
11-14-2007, 04:37 AM
I agree that they should expire... but i want them to stay when they expire that we can still equip them but they dont give any benefits/effects anymore...

neophoneix
11-16-2007, 12:16 AM
I was playing the game for about 2 weeks in closed beta and I didn't find a single lucky ball on my own. My party however, managed to find a grand total of 3. I don't know how people say you can get 3 in a day!! I think it also works the other way - people who seem to never find them may become bored and not play. Although why play a game just for the lucky balls?

I voted no items shouldn't expire because after I found out what a lucky ball did it was quite frustrating knowing that after my bunny helmet expired (the lucky ball was given to me by a friend) that I would proberly never find another.

Whirlpool
11-16-2007, 01:08 AM
NEVER expire !

Long live LB Items :D

Prices will drop too , making it more affordable for players.

But the equipments having an expirey date has an avantage that it will become a rarety to own lucky ball equipments making you seem more " cool " in such outfits.

So both has its advantages depending on whether you are poor or rich. XD

Rodaa
11-16-2007, 02:14 AM
actually if they were permament i think the prices might rise...
probally wrong, i have just woken up...

verdictsxz
11-16-2007, 02:36 AM
this makes the game interesting..

Rodaa
11-16-2007, 03:54 AM
the most lucky balls ive managed in a day is 2, though i was on party share for the second and my friend got it.
Didnt really care, it was violet and i cant bring myself to sell them!

RitualSuicide
11-17-2007, 12:15 AM
I say no because I would just prefer they didn't, but I think they shouldn't because they never actually went away. So why should they expire if they are just there to torture you by sitting in your inventory, though I would settle for a way to renew it.

sogart
11-17-2007, 03:01 PM
i vote yes because, you can buy a LB for 250k and say: Yeah i like how i see. but anyway the lucky balls have a short durability (like 1 week) and you can get a ugly item :P

mariahashelle
11-18-2007, 03:37 PM
I vote No! They should not expire! I didn't know they didi till now. I got a Halo and so other stuff in the battle and that was the only time I got some. Some players aren't on as much as others and when we get one we don't want it to expire!

konoshi
11-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Lucky balls should expire. The items you get do give stat boosts, and you can always find new items or your old items may expire. Since it’s difficult to trade the item itself, it gives reason to hoard them for when your items expire. I managed to get 5 lucky balls in one day, but that day was almost 19 hours of game play...

I get irritated when I get a lucky ball and people ask if they can buy them from me because they never get them. So I will discourage people and try to **** them off by asking some outrageous price. I don’t care if they call me a stupid noob, because if I can get more lucky balls then them, maybe be because I know what I’m doing.

ChibiChix3
11-18-2007, 06:14 PM
This personally doesn't bother me. Expire or whatnot, I find a LB about once every other day.

davisf18
11-20-2007, 09:42 AM
i understand that they must expire because then the price of them would drop and so would the rairety of the item

did it ever occur to anyone that you should just sell the items inside instead of the lucky ball itself? (just a thought, i dont know if its possible to sell them tho)

IcyGrip
11-20-2007, 09:50 AM
(FYI i have not read the thread)

The items have a dual problem

1. the items are not good enough to be that rare and expire

2. if they didn't expire everyone would have them and therefore be nothing exciting to get

so i believe the solution is to make items with extremely good stats and possibly make the balls harder to acquire (increasing the value)

MiseryIndex
11-22-2007, 06:53 PM
I read the whole thread and I still have no idea what these are. Obviously they are valuable. So what are they?

Claiomh.Solais
11-23-2007, 10:05 AM
I read the whole thread and I still have no idea what these are. Obviously they are valuable. So what are they?

An item that randomly drops from monsters (I think every monster could give one, not sure) and that when used, gives you a random equip (like a hat, wings, horns, whatever) that you can use to customize the way your character looks (and I think at least some of them may give stat boosts). There’re differently colored balls, so I would assume each one has a set list of equips it could give, or maybe is related to the % of getting a particular item or maybe both. And as you may have already guessed, these items you get from a lucky ball last a certain amount of time (I think one week) and then they disappear. Also, they cannot be traded or sold or whatever.

Personally I like the idea, you never know what may come from one of those, so it will always be fun opening one and the time limit means that no lucky person will forever look very nice while the rest of us just get some crappy thing. Still it would be nice if they could be given, maybe you got something you didn’t want but someone else did or situations like that.

And indeed, it’s likely that Outspark will implement some version of these equips that doesn’t expire but it will probably be a lot harder to get or simply from the sparkcash shop.

SPDgonzales
11-25-2007, 05:25 AM
who would want items to expire?

Claiomh.Solais
11-25-2007, 09:19 AM
who would want items to expire?

It's called balance. Ever heard of it?

MiseryIndex
11-25-2007, 09:22 AM
An item that randomly drops from monsters (I think every monster could give one, not sure) and that when used, gives you a random equip (like a hat, wings, horns, whatever) that you can use to customize the way your character looks (and I think at least some of them may give stat boosts). There’re differently colored balls, so I would assume each one has a set list of equips it could give, or maybe is related to the % of getting a particular item or maybe both. And as you may have already guessed, these items you get from a lucky ball last a certain amount of time (I think one week) and then they disappear. Also, they cannot be traded or sold or whatever.

Personally I like the idea, you never know what may come from one of those, so it will always be fun opening one and the time limit means that no lucky person will forever look very nice while the rest of us just get some crappy thing. Still it would be nice if they could be given, maybe you got something you didn’t want but someone else did or situations like that.

And indeed, it’s likely that Outspark will implement some version of these equips that doesn’t expire but it will probably be a lot harder to get or simply from the sparkcash shop.

Thankyou for the explanation.

Nixxy
11-26-2007, 04:24 AM
If they werent to expire i think they should have the drop rate of lucky balls MUCH lower, because you come by them fairly often enough just playing the game.

villawolf
11-26-2007, 03:02 PM
After reading through some of this, I got an idea. A mix of both the answers. Have the stat boosts that these items give have an expiration date, but not the item itself. When the time runs out (7 days is it?) make the item nothing more then just for looks. So basically the item is useless after 7 days, but you can still wear it to show it off or goof around or something, that way, the balance still stays, and people can keep their shiney items. :D

revoo
12-01-2007, 04:23 PM
I think it shouldn't expire.. it should give fair status to the player
and the lucky balls should be harder to find

emocent
01-17-2008, 06:55 PM
i have read this entire forum and i like the idea mentioned earlier of being able to keep ONE lucky ball item or store item of your choice when you receive one. I mean wat are the odds of a BAD GLITCH or bug happening because of this? i doubt anyone could ever hack this or watever because so far i havent seen any bots ^^ (miracle) or heard about any hackings in the game so obviously the server must be protected very well and most of the game is pretty much server sided so it shouldnt happen. i also believe the shop should have more items like armor for higher leveled players or just armor with better benefits for any level but sell it at a higher price:rolleyes:

if you want to keep another item then maybe you could win a special event and recieve an item that allows u to permanently keep another item (i like the name "Keeps Card") or maybe even buy one in the store:D and believe me they could sell them in the store for A LOT of money. Just think about it. there are many players that would love to buy that so they dont have to constantly return to the store and buy the same cash item over and over bcuz they like it, untill eventually they would just stop and get tired of doing it. Then there is the part of it that makes ppl think they are saving loads of money purchasing a "Keeps Card" that u could sell at lets say maybe 10000 or around $12-15 (watever sounds more reasonable), it would be a really great item for me i no because my mom is only letting me buy a little sparkcash thru the mail so wen its all gone i cant get anymore :'(...well i gotta go rite now. i mite edit this later if anyone else wants to hear more...just send a private message.