Feb 19 POX event screenie

[crafty1]

wanted to take a photo (screenie) of my experience in pox today. not sure what that big circle thing is surrounding that other characture, but i'm sure it wasn't suppose to be allowed. anyway, just showing my vacation photo, take it for what it's worth. ty :)

[ky0_drag0n]

lolz you're right. Circle Trap=aoe move.
Guess people got greedy as usual, and wanted a whole load of xens

[Oohforf]

well send this to support and they might hopefully do actions against this ;D

[tomcat47]

haha nice way of reporting someone without meaning to *wink wink* lol...it even says on the screenie pox aoe. LOL. good job? =P

[deoxys114]

Lol. Nice. So is PoX really discontinued? Or was Murdock just trying to scare us? Hmmmm.

Lol. I got 5 Xens from the event. Wasted em all in crappy enhancing. DX

[numb_1986]

i think it's totally gone as mur said earlier.... >.<

[hybridintellect]

If they can Disable all AOE skills for the event then no one can cheat. If they really want to be crual do it like in safe zones and make it where no skill can be used lol. it would take forever to kill a mob. lol I know some people would not be able to hit anything. There must be a way to disable certain skills during events. Cheaters are lame and they should get all xens removed for that. How many time did they stress not to AOE in there and yet look what happens.... How bout this if they trigger an AOE skill they automaticly get kicked. I bet they could do that also. I took all my AOE off my hot keys so this would not happen.

[NeoQueenElyse]

I could have sworn there was a way to disable AoE skills... Maybe I imagined it happening in PvP... Who knows?

[tazsbigtoy]

Well aoe skills that require clicking on the ground, like lightning and recticle trap don't work in pvp unless they recently changed something. It's a shame that people just would not follow the rules. I know almost immediately after Murdock made his announcement and they did the respawn, I saw wildswing being used. It's a shame that some people interpret "don't use aoe skills" as "use aoe skills while in a big group or off in a corner so you don't get caught." I replaced circle trap on the rogue's hotkey bar with poison blow so I would not even accidentally aoe. Even if POX isn't gone forever, it will probably be a long time before we see it again, and that's a shame. A few people make it worse on everyone.

[danibelle07]

so they're like.... kinda suspending the PoX event cause of some AOErs? how lame of them (the non-compliant people, that is)... argh. I was wanting to go to one, too >.<

[heavenzcloud]

I dont think there is a way to stop aoe skills. You can make it like pvp. but that doesnt prevent Wild Swing, Circle trap and deadlock(Wild swing seemed to be the biggest offender). If you make it all a SZ then mages and clercs can kiss any hope of getting a xen good bye having to cane them all to death.

They were relying on the honor system, and from what I saw there were a few that didnt follow the system. And afterwards openly admitted to doing it. Funny how Mur and Toasty stop the event, say "NO AOE", respawn, AoE. I was super excited for PoX since January and coming out with 1 xen in the third tier because people are greedy really sucks.

if they decide to bring back PoX I hope instead they just jail and take the xens of those that are committing the offence. If you were in PoX you saw who were doing it and if you have 30-40 witnesses to an infraction thats enough to put that char in prision.

There goes another event ruined cause people cant follow rules.

[Ayanami]

Yea, I really wish there was a way for the GMs to simply disable AOE on certain maps. If it can be done in pvp (at least partially), I don't see why it couldn't be done elsewhere.

It's really a shame because PoX was well run this time except for the aoers.

Tier 1 and Tier 4 were great. Tier 4 worked well because there were few enough of us that the GMs could identify and warp out anyone aoeing.

Tier 2 and 3 were a mess because there were simply too many people aoeing for the GMs to isolate and remove. The first wave in Tier 2 was a let down - too many aoers. However, toasty then summoned some Crots that stopped the aoers dead cold in their tracks. >:-D Of course then people complained that the Crots were too hard to kill, but I still managed to get a few xens off of them (at only lvl 60). :)

[immortalcrimson]

To whomever it may concern and to those who i have if ever offended,

Hello..yes this is AesirValkyr...and i am sorry for the actions that i had done during Pusuit of Xen event..
I honestly did not know that we were not allowed to aoe. With all the spam chatter in shouts and public i turned them and I honestly did not see the notices nor could I see the shouts, on top of that i was lagging as well. I am heartily sorry for causing any distress to anyone. Also I would like to sincerley apologize to my guild...for i have besmirched our name of theguild..and for that I am truly sorry...but -sigh- still there shouldnt be an exscuse for my actions...if you wish to punish me....then i completely accept the terms.

Sincerly,

AesirValkyr

[duaane]

Aye tiss true if you log on for an event, and miss pre-event notices. Once at or near the event the spam and multiple messages get really bad (even I get laggy, and I use the best HS ISP 10mps and computer due 316/8gig ddr2 ram and 8600 n-vidia, all upgraded, and clean). Maybe a 2-3 second delay green messages from gms, and make start zones SZ areas, to stop skill spam??? ;)



I honestly did not know that we were not allowed to aoe. With all the spam chatter in shouts and public i turned them and I honestly did not see the notices nor could I see the shouts

Yes poped many a SC pots and died twice but as you said Tosty did good. Was a good way to stop AOE'ers, whom BTW made up only a 10th or less of the total players.



However, toasty then summoned some Crots that stopped the aoers dead cold in their tracks. >:-D Of course then people complained that the Crots were too hard to kill, but I still managed to get a few xens off of them (at only lvl 60). :)

Also after the Green message w/delay approch to make sure everyone sees what the GMs say
baning and or expelling player's from all events (for a bit) that violate any "rules" :D, may be posting some names, or green notice so and so just got baned from this event and next month or two of events etc (as many keep some alts for events this will make them think "ouch"). for breaking the rules would sure stop others that see it and think if they can "I" will attitude. :cool:

One other point was someone did not know "bramble" was an aoe skill !!! Notices on all attacks that effect more than one target whould IMHO be more clear.

[stingstungme]

Tier 2 and 3 were a mess because there were simply too many people aoeing for the GMs to isolate and remove. The first wave in Tier 2 was a let down - too many aoers. However, toasty then summoned some Crots that stopped the aoers dead cold in their tracks. >:-D Of course then people complained that the Crots were too hard to kill, but I still managed to get a few xens off of them (at only lvl 60). :)

So that's what it was! Some people were cheating in that tier before i got there.
Well my little aco was left in the gm room all alone and had to go to the store to buy yellow eggs to shout for help. They did answer my call for help fairly quickly. When i got to the pox event, the crots were running wild. I was not happy. An aco my level trying to kill a crot? :( What the helly? She has never even seen those things. I couldn't even outrun those things. They run faster than me! They would get to my destination before I could! I was forced to stand their and fight one on one with monsters from the desert.


It took her 20 large hp sparkcash potions to kill just ONE and after i got it down 98 percent of the way, some scout runs over and tries to ks me. Total no class. Someone's char must really suck if they have to ks an aco. Luckily, my illusion quake was got the last hit on that crot. My aco ended up getting 4. 2 of them were from cheating aoers who hit so many monsters, they couldnt pick them all up in time. So ha ha. :P I got 2 of your xens greedy cheaters! :P

My disciple only got 2 i think. I was one of the dumb but honest ones who removed her chain block from the hot bar. It was disastrous. Brambleway weeds all around me. I'm not picking out scouts in general. Have no reason to. Most of the scouts\archers I know like Archeros and Axus are awesome and honest. Not everyone cheated but it was definitely more than a few. I guess their thinking was "catch me if you can". Now they have pets overfilled with xens.

Anyway, i ended up with more xens than what I had. My aco rocked it with her 4 xens! Not going to complain too much. The event is over. Seems like we wont be having one for some time if ever again. Moving on.....

[stingstungme]

One other point was someone did not know "bramble" was an aoe skill !!! Notices on all attacks that effect more than one target whould IMHO be more clear.

Suuuure they didn't. How can one not know what his\her aoe skills are? The whole purpose of Area Of Effects is to affect an area\a mass and not just one monster or person.

Brambleway is a skill that is received at level 66. If you are level 66, then you are no longer officially a newbie. You know a lot about your char, skills, gears, and so forth. I mean no disrespect to your friend or associate that made that comment but if they are a scout or acher and dont know that brambleway is an aoe skill then they need to have their bow repossessed.

I can see someone who is of a different class who may not know the names of other classes aoe skills or someone who is in the lower levels. So i am just going to assume that it was not a scout\archer that made the comment.

For the record, I'm not holding the gms responsible. Some of the tiers were jam packed. It is impossible for 1 or 2 Gms to monitor what is going on in every single corner when the room is crowded. They are human. They only have 2 eyes and it cant be on every single person at every single second.
So I think that under the circumstance, they did the best they could. They didn't let us down. We let them down because as a whole we all could not play fair. :(

[hybridintellect]

That is a good idea about spawning some crocs or some crazy powerful mob and kill the aoers then the gm can do a major hit after all aoers are dead and dismissed. It would not take long to wipe out the aoers. Then spawn out the regular mob again and continue on. I know some people will get killed but just don't attack the powerful ones. AOE'rs wont have a chance. I still say set a command that if that skill is pressed it automaticly boots them out. I would imagine the could set that up.... something like wild swing fuction = warp back to ess. that should take care of the aoe issue. then no one would get ruinied and the ones that cheat get what they diserve.

[poochyenarulez]

if u ask me, i think the gms have been slacking on the events, there are very few notices for events and most of the time the notices just say to go to the calender for more info about the event, and the calender was wrong, it said nothing about not aoeing,nothing about lvl tiers, and it said we were killing starbears, they either need to update the calender of make several notices about the event before it starts

anyways, how is making several alts not cheating o.O

[duaane]

I only talked about it as a few players that were scouts (one that was kicked in 40-70 group) were wondering "why"

Classic AOE'ing is like wild swing that does not slow down the mob.



Suuuure they didn't.


Do not get me wrong I know it is (and never had a scout class toon). Just well I have been playing for a while.

I did hear this a few times durring and after the event(s) (about branble skill).:rolleyes:

So I bought up what other's had problems with and as to clarify rules before and event.

Most like over 90% of the players did not use any AOE skills and played fair. Of the less that 10%, some did not know, some seen others doing it and thought why not. So the amount of a@@s (that caused the problems "knowingly:() were only a very few say 2-5 per event (probably playing alt toons).

I had only one toon (knight lvl 77) that has any aoe skills, and I removed the skills prior to the event, so I was and did not once use... :cool:

Just was tossing in my 2 cents. With what I heard and seen

[stingstungme]

if u ask me, i think the gms have been slacking on the events, there are very few notices for events and most of the time the notices just say to go to the calender for more info about the event, and the calender was wrong, it said nothing about not aoeing,nothing about lvl tiers, and it said we were killing starbears, they either need to update the calender of make several notices about the event before it starts

anyways, how is making several alts not cheating o.O

Having 2 people monitor hundreds of people in a room with monsters and expect them to get every call right is unfair. If professional sports referees miss calls\fouls\infractions then you cant sincerely expect 2 to be perfect. There is not a way to challenge and review the tape. It may seem obvious to you that the person standing next to you may be using an aoe skill but that GM could have been in another area booting a cheater. From what I have heard, some did get warped out. So you can't say they did not try to follow through. They were just overwhelmed and there are a few that took advantage of that.

I agree with your disappointment due to the lack\vagueness of information on the calendar concerning the event. The event information was vague and misleading. I honestly thought that everyone was going to be in some place like candyvault killing bears at the same time. The day of the event someone inquired about tiers and I went back to the calendar and that information was not included. When I found out that they did tiers last year, I just assumed that it would be the same and go from what others had posted on the forum. I think the tiers were different though. So even though I had checked the calendar over 3 or so days, the information listed was not sufficient. Aoeing not being allowed was not mentioned under the rules of the event. You are correct. Although I must say that 99% of the chatter in the event were from people screaming mad saying to stop aoeing or aoe is not allowed.

I did not read every single line of chat but I can honestly say that just from occasionally glancing at the chat, it was mentioned at least a hundred times easily. Before the event started, players that had participated in the event before were reminding others that aoe was disallowed and you would get booted or jailed.

I guess the GMS made their announcements too in the event but I guess many were just focused on xen so they ignored everything. But this goes back to if they provided sufficient detailed accurate information on the calendar ahead of time, all of these random people saying " I didn't know AOE wasn't allowed or whatever excuse is not an issue.

I will agree with you on the calendar issues but I have to disagree on the alts. I joined November of last year as a fighting aco and was just sick of my low defense, low weight, having to run away after hitting so I switched to disciple in mid to late 50's.

My guild was a wee bit sad and wanted an aco so I made another acolyte char and was going to level her up enough to get in the guild. The guild disbanded. I kept leveling my disciple but things were just difficult. I wanted a neo. I thought they rocked. So I made a third character who is an awesome neo and i was rotating them up until about 2 weeks ago. My disciple is in her 70's and the aco and neo are in their 50's.

I was in the hotel and one of the members on my buddy list told me about the POX event from last year. I remember telling him there was no way that I was going to buy that ugly v day helmet ever. When he told me how many xens he won the previous year, I said well i can look like an idiot for a day. :cool:

This may have been about 4-5 days max before the event started. I started in November. My chars were already established. I took part in two tiers. I don't feel like a cheater one bit. I do have alts but I followed the rules that were provided. When I decided to make my aco and neo back in December, I did not know or care about any spark cash item event. If anything, I was very much against sparkcash and required item events. Now my aco and disciple are potion junkies. I did not attend any spark cash required event. I visited the forums frequently but the majority of my searching dealt with my class, skills, quests, training areas and so forth.

So I think that trying to imply that having alts participate in the event is a form of cheating isn't a correct statement. As a matter of fact, my acolyte and my disciple both bought hats before the event started. When they announced Tier 1 would be levels 1-40. I wrongly assumed Tier 2 would be 41-80. All my chars would have fallen in the same Tier. They made the announcement that Tier 2 would be levels 41-60 (I think). I realized that either my aco or neo could partake in that tier so I bought another ugly v day hat and went with the aco.

I bought 2 hats for the event. So I feel that my aco and my disciple deserved to participate. The hat looks horrific on my disciple but it is sooooo cute on my aco. :cool:

Duane, I see you defending yourself up there. You don't have to do that. I wasn't accusing you. I intentionally said your friend or associate so that you would not think I was questioning\accusing you. It was someone other than you. I was just not believing their excuse. I have no reason to doubt you. You said that you played fairly and I will take your word for it. :)