Now, there are too many guild storage users. Please try again later.

[snowspirit]

What the heck?! I leveled an alt to 20 for the sole purpose of creating a guild to get more storage space. So after all my hard earned time and money, all that happens when I try to access guild storage is the message:

Now, there are too many guild storage users. Please try again later.

This comes after my brother spent 250s buying what he thought was the Vitality T2 skill scroll from a scammer. Turns out it was the fighter Vitality scroll. Smart one OutSpark. Retards. You created an open door for every scammer with no morales to rip off every newcomer to the game who chose the Scroll skill production skill. You expect noobs to know better?! I know I expect better from you!

It's been a nightmare just trying to figure out where to get skill scrolls from, and what they actually teach, since the descriptions never match. Heck the Tier doesn't match half the time either! And since so many of the T3 skill scrolls Nina sells actually teach the T2 versions, where do you get the T3 ones from then?! Just how long would it take to put in the proper information, and make all descriptions match each other? What, a few hours! Are you guys that brain dead? Or do you just like driving away new players by showing off your incompetence?!

Come on OutSpark, grow a brain and fix some stuff! Do something about all the memory leaks too! There are developer tools to help with that you know.

Anyway, how the heck do I access the guild storage? Or do I need to create alt accounts to mule excess stuff I don't want to toss? Sure would be nice if it just WORKED!

[noxiouslove]

Roumen storage is bugged. Don't know why, but you cannot use it. Go to the guild master in Elderine or Uruga, and you can access the guild storage.

[snowspirit]

Elderine doesn't work either. And I may have a tough time getting my level 20 alt to Uruga, and I'm sure not going to pay 35s for a scroll. The solution shouldn't be a work-a-round anyway. It should be for OutSpark to fix it, along with the gazillions of other problems in the game.

Fiesta has a great look, and is a lot of fun. But it is seriously trying my patience with such glaring bugs that should have been fixed before most people even knew there was a problem!

[Stacey]

What the heck?! I leveled an alt to 20 for the sole purpose of creating a guild to get more storage space. So after all my hard earned time and money, all that happens when I try to access guild storage is the message:

Now, there are too many guild storage users. Please try again later.

This comes after my brother spent 250s buying what he thought was the Vitality T2 skill scroll from a scammer. Turns out it was the fighter Vitality scroll. Smart one OutSpark. Retards. You created an open door for every scammer with no morales to rip off every newcomer to the game who chose the Scroll skill production skill. You expect noobs to know better?! I know I expect better from you!

It's been a nightmare just trying to figure out where to get skill scrolls from, and what they actually teach, since the descriptions never match. Heck the Tier doesn't match half the time either! And since so many of the T3 skill scrolls Nina sells actually teach the T2 versions, where do you get the T3 ones from then?! Just how long would it to put in the proper information, and make all descriptions match each other? What, a few hours! Are you guys that brain dead? Or do you just like driving away new players by showing off your incompetence?!

Come on OutSpark, grow a brain and fix some stuff! Do something about all the memory leaks too! There are developer tools to help with that you know.

Anyway, how the heck do I access the guild storage? Or do I need to create alt accounts to mule access stuff I don't want to toss? Sure would be nice if it just WORKED!

First of all, I'm sorry your brother got scammed. But he's not the only one. Many others have been scammed by this trick. Note that every player can sell what he/she wants to--in any price he/she desires. But please do not blame OutSpark-- calling them "retards" will not solve anything. Also remember that it is the responsibility of the player to make sure he/she is buying the right items. I'm not blaming your brother, but perhaps this mistake will make him wiser. We all learn from our mistakes.

Roumen storage is bugged. Don't know why, but you cannot use it. Go to the guild master in Elderine or Uruga, and you can access the guild storage.

Usually, you can't use the one in Elderine if you are working on a quest. But Roumen and Urugua's guild storage seems to be working fine. Try relogging ><.

Edit:

P.S. I forgot to metion--you get tier 3 production skills from Item Merchant Nina in Elderine. I believe Accurracy and Nature's Agility learning scrolls can be bought with fame. Tier 3 Shield, Vitalility, and Speed learning scrolls are rare drops. According to several people, the best chance of finding them is to go and grind into the Abyss. You can also look around in the shops, but most will sell for 200s-2g (these are the prices I've seen).

Good luck. :D

[snowspirit]

First of all, I'm sorry your brother got scammed. But he's not the only one. Many others have been scammed by this trick. Note that every player can sell what he/she wants to--in any price he/she desires. But please do not blame OutSpark-- calling them "retards" will not solve anything. Also remember that it is the responsibility of the player to make sure he/she is buying the right items. I'm not blaming your brother, but perhaps this mistake will make him wiser. We all learn from our mistakes.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the fighter Vitality2 scroll description that would make anyone not familiar with the proper appearance to know better. As you say, many other have been scammed by this trick as well, meaning there is an underlining problem. OutSpark has created this open door for scammers, and therefore sorry, but I will call them retards. Driving away new players is not good business sense!



Usually, you can't use the one in Elderine if you are working on a quest. But Roumen and Urugua's guild storage seems to be working fine. Try relogging ><.

I've seen tham all work at one time or another. But should they ALL work ALL the time?! I've tried relogging, several times in fact. It never helps. (Sad that the first suggestion is to relog. What does that say about the stability of the game?!)

Edit:

P.S. I forgot to metion--you get tier 3 production skills from Item Merchant Nina in Elderine. I believe Accurracy and Nature's Agility learning scrolls can be bought with fame. Tier 3 Shield, Vitalility, and Speed learning scrolls are rare drops. According to several people, the best chance of finding them is to go and grind into the Abyss. You can also look around in the shops, but most will sell for 200s-2g (these are the prices I've seen).

Good luck. :D

Thank you! :)

[Stacey]

I'm sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the fighter Vitality2 scroll description that would make anyone not familiar with the proper appearance to know better. As you say, many other have been scammed by this trick as well, meaning there is an underlining problem. OutSpark has created this open door for scammers, and therefore sorry, but I will call them retards. Driving away new players is not good business sense!


Lol. I doubt that OutSpark intended on "creating this open door for scammers." Sadly, there are several people in-game that find ways to exploit this scheme, and they are the ones who ruin the game--not OutSpark. Also, I've compared the scrolls between the Vitality Skill Scroll and the Vitality Production Skill scroll--one of them says in parentheses "(production skill)." Hmmm...


Anyway, I'm not sure what is wrong with your storage. Some people were also having a problem with this a while back, but it was fixed in one of the patches. Try downloading and manually updating the patch here:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124286

Hope it works--*crosses fingers* ^^

[snowspirit]

Lol. I doubt that OutSpark intended on "creating this open door for scammers." Sadly, there are several people in-game that find ways to exploit this scheme, and they are the ones who ruin the game--not OutSpark.

Of course they didn't create this open door intentionally, but they know scammers are exploiting this problem to take advantage of noobs and yet they do nothing to stop it. How's about updating the fighter Vitality2 scroll to reflect what it actually is. Better yet, just sell ALL the T2 skill scrolls at the skill NPCs instead of making Scroll Production players having to pay 2G for their skills while others just pay an NPC a few silver. Also, fix the incorrectly labeled T2 scrolls that Nina sells for Fame to SAY T2 instead of T3, make them MATCH the descriptions that the skills themselves use, and put them in the T2 skill NPC shops also! Then put the real T3 skill scrolls in Nina's shop. I'm sorry, but there is NO excuse for this BS! Especially for something that would take so little work to fix, and that would stop messing up all the noobs.

Also, I've compared the scrolls between the Vitality Skill Scroll and the Vitality Production Skill scroll--one of them says in parentheses "(production skill)." Hmmm...

Well if I had the REAL scroll to compare with, I wouldn't be needing to buy one! Remember, most people when they first look for these skill scrolls are still fairly new to the game, and don't know any better yet. I haven't even played for one month yet.

Anyway, I'm not sure what is wrong with your storage. Some people were also having a problem with this a while back, but it was fixed in one of the patches. Try downloading and manually updating the patch here:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124286

Hope it works--*crosses fingers* ^^

Thank you for the link. I may look into this later, but for now I managed to get my level 20 alt to Uruaga (with 2 deaths and 2 Revives!), and the Guild Storage is working there. I shouldn't of had to do this though. Is it really too much to ask that game features actually work? I only figured out how to even get to Uruga yesterday.

You only get to make a first impression once, and it would be in OutSpark's best interest to fix this stuff.

[AParadiseLost]

Of course they didn't create this open door intentionally, but they know scammers are exploiting this problem to take advantage of noobs and yet they do nothing to stop it. How's about updating the fighter Vitality2 scroll to reflect what it actually is. Better yet, just sell ALL the T2 skill scrolls at the skill NPCs instead of making Scroll Production players having to pay 2G for their skills while others just pay an NPC a few silver. Also, fix the incorrectly labeled T2 scrolls that Nina sells for Fame to SAY T2 instead of T3, make them MATCH the descriptions that the skills themselves use, and put them in the T2 skill NPC shops also! Then put the real T3 skill scrolls in Nina's shop. I'm sorry, but there is NO excuse for this BS! Especially for something that would take so little work to fix, and that would stop messing up all the noobs.



Well if I had the REAL scroll to compare with, I wouldn't be needing to buy one! Remember, most people when they first look for these skill scrolls are still fairly new to the game, and don't know any better yet. I haven't even played for one month yet.



Thank you for the link. I may look into this later, but for now I managed to get my level 20 alt to Uruaga (with 2 deaths and 2 Revives!), and the Guild Storage is working there. I shouldn't of had to do this though. Is it really too much to ask that game features actually work? I only figured out how to even get to Uruga yesterday.

You only get to make a first impression once, and it would be in OutSpark's best interest to fix this stuff.

I'm surprised the OS forum guards didn't come flame you yet.

I whole heartedly agree with you.

I'm not sure about the guild storage thing, some days it works for me, some days it doesn't. It is an utter pain.

Google "wiki fiesta" for some descriptions on scrolls. If you have any specific questions on learning scrolls, I'll try to answer them as best as I can.

I'm done with the majority of the production skills.

[TwistedFreak]

I'm sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the fighter Vitality2 scroll description that would make anyone not familiar with the proper appearance to know better. As you say, many other have been scammed by this trick as well, meaning there is an underlining problem. OutSpark has created this open door for scammers, and therefore sorry, but I will call them retards. Driving away new players is not good business sense!

actually you are wrong OS has made it very easy to determain what a production skill is and what a class skill is.

look at the scroll a production skill scroll has a swrily circle in it where as a class skill move is just a dark purple scroll. this is the most obvious way to check if it is the real deal or not. so please b4 you go of on one again do abit of searching around.

Yes people try to scam people with these but if u actually stop and take alook at things for a bit longer you will notice the difference.


as for storage yes it is all over the place my archer can only get access in uruga yet my other characters can get acess from anywhere more or less at any time, uruga is the opnly place i know that has not let me down for getting into guild storage.

[AParadiseLost]

I'm sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the fighter Vitality2 scroll description that would make anyone not familiar with the proper appearance to know better.

actually you are wrong OS has made it very easy to determain what a production skill is and what a class skill is.

look at the scroll a production skill scroll has a swrily circle in it where as a class skill move is just a dark purple scroll. this is the most obvious way to check if it is the real deal or not. so please b4 you go of on one again do abit of searching around.

Yes people try to scam people with these but if u actually stop and take alook at things for a bit longer you will notice the difference.


OP acknowledges that there is the appearance difference, but seriously, the amount of people that fall prey to this, doesn't raise any flags? Forget about summing it up as greedy players, stores don't put up wet floor signs for no reason.

[ChildOfFire]

Well, coz there is buffer that allow only 300 ppl to open the guild storage, and i think by 300 is for all 4 server. If not so how come when i the only one who trying to open the guild storage still get the error??.

[snowspirit]

Noobs to the game do NOT know the difference in scroll appearances etc yet! There is no justification for the fact that OutSpark has created an open door for scammers to exploit noobs and has done nothing to prevent it.

Sell ALL T2 scrolls at the NPCs for crying out load. You think a noob learning their T2 scrolls can afford 2G for his skills while others only need to pay a few silver at an NPC?! You expect them to know what a legit skill scroll looks like and not fall prey to scammers?! Do you think they'd be able to rely on ACCURATE descriptions on the skill scrolls?!

So is OutSpark going to fix the guild storage problem, skill scrolls descriptions, availabiity, etc, or are they just going to release another new outfit to charge SC for?

[DF001]

Facts..

1) Outspark don't fix anything. They just publish the game OnSonSoft is the company that fixes the bugs and glitches.

2) It's your fault for not knowing the difference, not OS. It's actually really EASY to notice the difference.

3) There is a solution for the guild storage problem. Go to Uruga, simple.

4) It's not hard to get to level 20, it takes like, 3-5 hours.

5) If a NPC sold all the T2 scrolls, the game would have no challenge. Not just collect the mats, buy the learning scrolls, and done.

[Coyote_Outlaw]

I'm sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the fighter Vitality2 scroll description that would make anyone not familiar with the proper appearance to know better. As you say, many other have been scammed by this trick as well, meaning there is an underlining problem. OutSpark has created this open door for scammers, and therefore sorry, but I will call them retards. Driving away new players is not good business sense!

I've seen tham all work at one time or another. But should they ALL work ALL the time?! I've tried relogging, several times in fact. It never helps. (Sad that the first suggestion is to relog. What does that say about the stability of the game?!)

Thank you! :)

I too am a player of Fiesta for @ 14 months now & have seen many bugs, I would like to inform everyone that Outspark is not the games Developer (something I found out a while back) but rather the Games Distributor / Hosting service for this part of the world. Please stop putting Outspark at blame.

As for relogging, it is probable that your system has some corruption in it. I have noticed that some video drivers using Binary code do get corrupted over time & relogging will help to refresh the driver. If you find your having to relog quite often, make sure all your system device drivers (primarily Video Card) are up to date on your system, Your System Page File is correctly set (should be 1.5 times the amount of memory installed in system) & that your system DOES meet the minimum requirements for game play

Any help I can give to any player (except Scammers & RipOff Artists) I will be more than happy to help, Just PM me In-Game or thru the Forums.

IGN: crazi - Guild Master
Guild: IronHorse_OutLaw
Server: Apoline
Time Zone: EST (GMT -5)

[snowspirit]

Facts..

1) Outspark don't fix anything. They just publish the game OnSonSoft is the company that fixes the bugs and glitches.

2) It's your fault for not knowing the difference, not OS. It's actually really EASY to notice the difference.

3) There is a solution for the guild storage problem. Go to Uruga, simple.

4) It's not hard to get to level 20, it takes like, 3-5 hours.

5) If a NPC sold all the T2 scrolls, the game would have no challenge. Not just collect the mats, buy the learning scrolls, and done.

You are defending them?!! Good lord get a grip!

1) Bugs need to be fixed. I don't care who fixes them!

2) It is NOT my fault! If I am new to the game and have no idea what things SHOULD look like how is that my fault? Wouldn't it make more sense to actually have ACURATE descriptions on them?! Oh ya, DUH!

3) Going to Uruga to use Guild Storage is your solution?!! So they should just leave the other ones broken?! And you expect level 20 noobs to be able to just waltz on over to Uruga every time they want to access their guild storage?! Wow, ya, great solution.....

4) Getting to level 20 and paying for the new character's gear and the 300 silver for a guild is a lot for a noob. And it doesn't change the fact that I did all that to use a FEATURE of the game that DOESN'T work!

5) The NPC's should sell all the T2 skill learning scrolls, not the scrolls that are made with them. They sell all the other T2 skill learning scrolls, so why not the rest of the scroll production ones also. Or do you think a noob who's never even seen a Gold in his life should have to pay 2 Gold for their T2 skill scrolls while everybody else only has to pay a few silver at an NPC?!

Did you even THINK about anything you said?! Or are you just a high level jerk who knows it all and expects noobs to know it all also?


You cannot defend flat out bugs in the game, and horribly inaccurate descriptions on the skill scrolls! The solution isn't to find a work-a-round; it is to actually FIX the problem!

[DF001]

You are defending them?!! Good lord get a grip!

1) Bugs need to be fixed. I don't care who fixes them!

2) It is NOT my fault! If I am new to the game and have no idea what things SHOULD look like how is that my fault? Wouldn't it make more sense to actually have ACURATE descriptions on them?! Oh ya, DUH!

3) Going to Uruga to use Guild Storage is your solution?!! So they should just leave the other ones broken?! And you expect level 20 noobs to be able to just waltz on over to Uruga every time they want to access their guild storage?! Wow, ya, great solution.....

4) Getting to level 20 and paying for the new character's gear and the 300 silver for a guild is a lot for a noob. And it doesn't change the fact that I did all that to use a FEATURE of the game that DOESN'T work!

5) The NPC's should sell all the T2 skill learning scrolls, not the scrolls that are made with them. They sell all the other T2 skill learning scrolls, so why not the rest of the scroll production ones also. Or do you think a noob who's never even seen a Gold in his life should have to pay 2 Gold for their T2 skill scrolls while everybody else only has to pay a few silver at an NPC?!

Did you even THINK about anything you said?! Or are you just a high level jerk who knows it all and expects noobs to know it all also?


You cannot defend flat out bugs in the game, and horribly inaccurate descriptions on the skill scrolls! The solution isn't to find a work-a-round; it is to actually FIX the problem!

Well, first, STOP FLAMING ME, you are going nowhere.

1) Then report the bugs and wait patiently for it to be fixed. Keep in mind that there are better things that need to be fixed.

2) Oh, so you've never bought a production scroll or a skill to know the difference?

3) You don't have to be always walking to Uruga. You can just leave an alt in Uruga and your main anywhere else.

4) You get enough money from abyss. You can make on the minimum, 50s there everyday.

5) >.> Yea, I meant the production scrolls. Uh not all. Actually like 15 are found from abyss. No one made you choose scroll production. Plus, you can get those scrolls from abyss, you don't have to pay 2g for them.