can my wife let me play as her chara?

[MelvinUnderBelly]

i want to know if its a bannable offence to play as my wife and get her to my lvl

and if so why is it illiegal?

[willemstyle]

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[MelvinUnderBelly]

okay good xD im lvl 46 and shes lvl 21 so lol was hoping it wasnt bannable

[willemstyle]

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[Fre_ak]

-Account sharing is not allowed. No matter who the other person is, even a family member, you should not share any account information with anyone. The penalty for such offense is an immediate account termination. Outspark staff will NEVER ask for such information. If someone claims to be staff and asks you for login information or even just an email address, you should take a screen capture immediately and report them to our Support team.
actually u can be banned o.o

[willemstyle]

<another post of me thats incorrect! Im very sorry>

[soldier_blacktee]

LOL OWNED. I'm sorry, was needed.

[zues8844]

True. But OS has ruled AGAINST players in past cases like this, anyway.

Just sayin'.

[willemstyle]

actually u can be banned o.o

Ohh wait, i now read it correctly O.o

Sorry, give everything fault to ME!
I said to you because i never saw anything wrong in it!
So, if someone should get a problem, it's ME!

I'm very sorry to give incorrect information.. i should read tos more detailful and i should knew it before!

let outspark please make a little change in it's ToS, that makes it not bannable, but for own risk.

[Adrichiang]

There are probably many others who do share their Fiesta accounts with others besides themselves. The issue is not so much that you can not share your online characters with someone else.

The main issue with account sharing is the problems that occurs when others who used your account are selfish, immature, careless, had a fight with you irl, etc. which causes your account to be ban due to:

1. Deleting/selling your in game items, characters and or Fiesta Store items.

2. Purchasing/gifting of your sparkcash without your knowledge/consent which results in "charge back" = automatic ban for you account due to suspicions of credit card fraud.

3. Friends who are immature and used explicit language or abuse other players, resulting in your account being reported and being suspended/banned in future.

A lot of these issues results in many attempts to Outspark's Customer Service Representatives dealing with issues that can easily be preventable if the players are more careful. It's been rumored that a majority of hacked accounts reported to CSRs are just examples of players being careless with sharing their account information. As a result Outspark instituted a no account sharing ban as a reason to not reimburse any player who are careless with sharing their account information rather than actual hacking of Outspark servers.

Clearly Outspark's CSRs members are still the same after increase in players, so this zero tolerance ban on account sharing is an attempt to reduce the number of frivalous complains on players losing accounts due to their belief that someone hacked their accounts, when in actuality, the player is just very unfortunate that they released their account information to someone who can not be trusted in the long term. Simply put Outspark wants you to protect your account information the same way you wish to protect your private bank account information.

[MelvinUnderBelly]

is it a Bannable thing or a disclaimer on there fault?

[zues8844]

I'd like to think they let you explain yourself.

[ahtai]

It is bannable if you play her account. But..... It is not bannable if she partner with you and you hit mob 20 level higher than she is.

She will absorb most of your exp point, you level very slow to none and she level fast in super rate.

However I won't recommend Power level as one need to learn how to control their character.

[MelvinUnderBelly]

no tolarance ban sounds like you cant explain yourself

[zues8844]

It's specifically against people who give their accounts to p lvl services. And you don't want to hear THEIR elaborate excuses. Hence no tolerance.

[MelvinUnderBelly]

It is bannable if you play her account. But..... It is not bannable if she partner with you and you hit mob 20 level higher than she is.

She will absorb most of your exp point, you level very slow to none and she level fast in super rate.

However I won't recommend Power level as one need to learn how to control their character.

she is on about 3 times in a 1 to 2 week length

[Adrichiang]

Yes, by stating that you will be playing your wife's characters and leveling them, you are in fact stating you are account sharing.

It is banable, the fact that you posed such a question in the public forums would get your account and alternate accounts under suspicion and be investigated by "invisible people" if and when some other player do decide to report you for powerleveling your wife's players.

Well... it's similar to irl speed limit law. When you drive on the highway, some people do drive faster than the speed limit. Not everyone who's speeding will be caught and punished but if you are the unfortunate individual who does get caught, you will be punished and you can not use the other people drove faster than me as an excuse for leniency.

On a side note, Fiesta is used for entertainment purposes primarily, those who does not care about their account or its possible deletion will off course ignore TOS rules. If your wife is not so into Fiesta to play as much as you, perhaps it's best not to push her to play so often or spoil them by power leveling her. Perhaps you should spent more time with your wife on other activities besides Fiesta. If she's really busy irl and loves Fiesta but does not have the time to play, why not just volunteer to help her out irl without her asking you, it'll earn you a lot of brownie points with her in the future ^^.

[MelvinUnderBelly]

i never said i *am* thats why im asking

[mehe25]

Regardless of who it is your still sharing the account so...yes its bannable. But you can Plv her, I would recomend it, since I doubt you'd want to be seeing her scream in your chatbox for help on a quest XD

[MelvinUnderBelly]

Lol,

10char

[Miazma]

Yes, by stating that you will be playing your wife's characters and leveling them, you are in fact stating you are account sharing.

It is banable, the fact that you posed such a question in the public forums would get your account and alternate accounts under suspicion and be investigated by "invisible people" if and when some other player do decide to report you for powerleveling your wife's players.

errrrm I dont see where he said he IS sharing his wifes account. I do see him very wisely asking first if it is allowable so why would one assume that *invisible people* will be looking over his shoulder? Common sense says if he wanted to cheat the system he would have simply gone ahead and shared the account.

[DincaTinel]

i dont tinkthats alowed

[DF001]

Technically, I think that it's okay as long as she doesn't give you any account info

[ahtai]

she is on about 3 times in a 1 to 2 week length

Well make an alt that level same speed as her. My real life friend join too and she is weekend player, well so I just match my alt level with hers so that we can quest together.

[Adrichiang]

errrrm I dont see where he said he IS sharing his wifes account. I do see him very wisely asking first if it is allowable so why would one assume that *invisible people* will be looking over his shoulder? Common sense says if he wanted to cheat the system he would have simply gone ahead and shared the account.

I have discussed and learned from CL Serric that basic common sense is a rare commodity indeed. So I learned to initially hold off expectations or assumptions which have gotten me into arguments due to miscommunication.

The real issue with the OP is that he basically asking for permission to do an action that is questionable and may compromise his Outspark account if he was caught. Other posters before me is quite blunt in stating a No response to his inquiry, while I try to give actual reasons on why sharing accounts have lead to issues that Outspark CSRs simply do not want to deal with on a daily basis, recall all the IRL threads for every server was locked due to no longer wishing spend the time to monitor those threads from the abusers.

I can tell that the OP is thinking about doing something questionable by his ignoring of other people's advice in this thread and hoping someone with authority say CL, GM and or CSR to say "no, it's not a banable offense to play someone else's account characters and level them", which I highly doubt will happen. That's why on my follow up reply I was pretty blunt on the consequences of his hypothetical question and state what will happen if he does decide to do what he's thinking. The path to damnation is no by leaps and bounds but in small little steps.

But the best thing for anyone with questionable, embarrassing, or just a flurry of questions regarding the any Outspark game. Here's what I did when I had these questions, I sent lots of PM to the wonderful community leaders of Outspark. What they do not know, they will contact the people who do know and give you a prompt response. From the experience I had contacting different CL's they are courteous, they will not demean you for your lack of knowledge or understanding of Outspark games, and they will go indepth on why XYZ actions is against Outspark policy.

[Serric]

Seeing as no other CL has chipped in, I’ll toss in my two pennies.

According to the TOS, agreed upon when you created your account,

q) You may not communicate any player's real-world personal information, in any fashion, including your own, within the Outspark Service. You may not directly or indirectly share your Outspark Account Password or Outspark Account details with anyone, and you will not hold Outspark or its subsidiaries, responsible for any damages that may occur from doing so.

What does this mean? It means Outspark frowns upon it but it is not necessarily a bannable offense. Of course, even this is open to certain determining factors: are you family? If so, then probably no ban. Are you attempting to sell your account? If so, insta ban and deletion of your account, characters and all items/equipment.

What this TOS clause also stipulates is should you share your account info with anyone for any reason, you are accepting all risks and responsibilities. Shared your account with your friend, had a fight and he deleted your character without your knowledge? That sucks, but too bad. It’s gone. Better get crackin’ on a new character.

In all seriousness, no user should share another user’s account. Does it happen? Of course. Just realize that if you choose to share your info it instantly and irreversibly alienates OutSpark of any and all responsibilities ties to that account including loss of equipment, items and character data.

Does that make it any more clearer for y’all?

[MelvinUnderBelly]

thanks serric ^_^b was exactly what i was wanting to hear Xd

[willemstyle]

Seeing as no other CL has chipped in, I’ll toss in my two pennies.

According to the TOS, agreed upon when you created your account,



What does this mean? It means Outspark frowns upon it but it is not necessarily a bannable offense. Of course, even this is open to certain determining factors: are you family? If so, then probably no ban. Are you attempting to sell your account? If so, insta ban and deletion of your account, characters and all items/equipment.

What this TOS clause also stipulates is should you share your account info with anyone for any reason, you are accepting all risks and responsibilities. Shared your account with your friend, had a fight and he deleted your character without your knowledge? That sucks, but too bad. It’s gone. Better get crackin’ on a new character.

In all seriousness, no user should share another user’s account. Does it happen? Of course. Just realize that if you choose to share your info it instantly and irreversibly alienates OutSpark of any and all responsibilities ties to that account including loss of equipment, items and character data.

Does that make it any more clearer for y’all?

To explain this in short:
You can share your account at your OWN RISK. Losing characters and items? your fault, Outspark will NOT restore these.

Sharing account info for selling? ban-delete-bye!

Sharing account info for pleveling by one of these spam-services? ban-delete-bye!

[MelvinUnderBelly]

To explain this in short:
You can share your account at your OWN RISK. Losing characters and items? your fault, Outspark will NOT restore these.

Sharing account info for selling? ban-delete-bye!

Sharing account info for pleveling by one of these spam-services? ban-delete-bye!

what i got out of it too XD