Horrid luck with enhancing...

[monkeyman-ownsyou]

Yea, I can handle making lvl 1 items up to +6 without breaking anything, but as soon as i get to lvl 2 i can't even get something to +1. I broke 6 axes trying to make them +1....using blessed or lucky elrues... I gave up on axes, bought a bow with great stats for 100s, planned on making it +3 so, i got my blessed elrues, put the first one on and poof...it broke.. my friends never use eyes or miles and they can make +6 without breaking anything, am I cursed or something, heck I haven't even gotten a SINGLE green drop since i've been playing...and by looking at my sig, you can tell I have been playing a while(looking at my lvls)....anyone else got this bad of luck? Guess you can call this ranting, but I'd like to know if i'm the only one that has fail luck like this.

[AParadiseLost]

D:

I used to be able to enhance t1's relatively easy ~ but I stopped after I got the titles I wanted (regarding breaking items).

I don't think I have had quite your luck ~ I come across alot of greens through licensing ~ and grinding. But I've had very few worth keeping.

I hope your luck picks up m8.

[Mizuko85]

Personally my record is +7 for lv 1 item, and SURELY blow on +8 xD. But on lv 2 item, still my record is +7 too oxo. But that was when lv cap is 59, and I'm sure OS have been "rearranging" the success of items upon enhancing ;o

[preetykitty]

I have bad luck enhancing even with eyes and miles i have spent alot just enhancing 1 item. beleive it or not it took me 3 stacks each to enhance my 70 blue hammer. but thats also lvl3 not one. I can only get lvl1 weps to a plus 5 then they break on me. and lvl2 i can only get to like a plus 2 and then they break on me. which I know it sucks. But the best place to find greens i would have to say dungeons... do alot of grinding there and plus its better to grind in a dungeon because it will lvl you faster. but it would be best if its only a fighter and cleric.. yet again it also depends on your lvl to then i would say a fighter, mage, and cleric

But good luck.

[FatalLace]

ah... a kindered spirit :)

[Pactio]

I don't even try it anymore, it seems like enhancing was made so it could blow up in my face. >.> When I was around lvl 40, I murdered 5 staffs without getting one to +3... I've simply given up on it. xD

[mehe25]

Enchancing is dead to me...

The chances are extremely low, that fact that you can even get to +3 with a lv 2 or 3 item is a miracle.

[laady]

Aww, that sucks. I have similar bad luck, myself. I can't get anything past +2 and even that is pushing it. I had a bow a while back that I tried to get to +3. I got it to +2, then got it to +1... >.> ...then POOF! The bow I have now is the same way. I got it to +1 but I couldn't get it to +2 so I quit because I had to buy this one. I couldn't find the bow I wanted via a drop which sucks because I found a green level 46 helmet for Fighters but I'm a level 42 Archer and that doesn't help me one bit. :|

[Rzpect]

my friend enhanced a lvl 1 bow to +9 w/o perfect miles or anything from SparkCash
indeed he enhanced it BEFORE there were sparkcash items

[Ryokosha]

The trick is to not enhance without Miles / Eyes. You're not too unlucky, the chances are just really low to get high without Miles / Eyes.

Estimated chance for Level 2 Equips to successfully enhance to a level without any Miles/Eyes:
+1 50%
+2 25%
+3 12.5%
+4 3.6%
+5 0.8%
+6 0.2%
+7 0.03%
+8 0.004%
+9 0.0006%

[devin_nicolai]

Woah thats low ._. .

[angerchild]

Eyes and miles all the way...

[laady]

Estimated chance for Level 2 Equips to successfully enhance to a level without any Miles/Eyes:
+1 50%
+2 25%
+3 12.5%
+4 3.6%
+5 0.8%
+6 0.2%
+7 0.03%
+8 0.004%
+9 0.0006%

Not that those figures seem wrong or anything...I mean, given how unlucky I've been, they seem pretty accurate >.> ...but where did you get this info?

[Diatomic]

i hate enhancing.....it always make my wallet seems lighter, but ingame and irl. after spending like $50 dollars trying to enhance my bk hammer...never made it to +9!! i think i can work with a +8... use up 1 stack of blue, red, and gold and only got one success out of it....pathetic!

i don't think i will enhance anymore weapons anymore after this one...>.< because it cost me a pair of boots! thou the urge is always there.

[evieevie]

i got my bk hammer to +8 using the red, gold and blue from fiesta store. It took over 40 of each. Then a month later when i got a little spare cash i got some more sc and bought 10 more of the red and the gold and the blue and still failed to get it to +9. I treid with ordinary, bless and even lucky. But i didnt give up (cos im stupid that way) i bought another 10 of the red and the gold and the blue and still it failed. So in total i bought 60 of each (yes i really really regret it) and still couldnt get it past +8.
I ended up buying a +9 bk hammer from a vender and selling my +8.
I wasted so much money i darent even add it up cos i know ill feel ten times worse. But i learnt my lesson, i will NEVER enhance ever again. If i cant find a +9 for sale for gold ingame then ill make do without!

[YoshimaruOrona]

t1 enhancing = yes.

t2 enhancing = maybe, if you like +1 or +2 NPC gear [enhancing greens = no effin way]

t3 enhancing = no. just no.

t4 enhancing = gtfo.

It's not your luck. It's the way the game is structured. Some of your friends might have the luck of the gods, but the majority of us can't even approach t2 or higher enhancement without miles or eyes.

[kasarle]

umm ok, i'll throw my 2 cents in here. every item of every level has a pattern on the listing. if you break enough items you'll find the pattern on enhancing weapons and gear but you'll break about 200 peices of gear/weapons per class, per level item...hehehe

oh and greens and blues and purples have a diffrent setting as well...hehe gl with that.
but im pretty much set on enhancing gear T2...cant wait for T3...hehehe

so if you know the patterns, your good to go from +1 to +9, but here is a warning...since the eyes are in, if you miss and it doesn't break, the pattern changes.

[skidrogue]

Hey, monkeyman-ownsyou, you're not missing much.

When I first started Fiesta I really enjoyed enhancing. However, when I reached level 50 I spent over 20 dollars trying to enhance my bow and never got it passed +8. That's not only insane, it's not any fun -- just disappointing, tedious, time consuming and expensive. So, I’ve totally stopped enhancing, wouldn’t dream of trying it again after that.

One positive thing that came out of stopping was that I decided I had to get rich in ig gold. I'm not rich yet, but I do have enough gold to keep both my main characters in +9s. So, I highly recommend taking comp/decomp and scrolls to T3/T4 and purchasing a Sign of Tycoon or a Storage Pack. Yes, it's also tedious and time consuming, but it's not disappointing... and it's heck of a lot cheaper.

[DF001]

With 15 euros..

I got only 2 sucesses on twenty tries (t3)

[babymaker688]

I wonder how people get +9 lvl 80 axes that are item lvl 4

[Plushii]

Once you have to use 56 tries to get an item to +9 and spend over 60 dollar on eyes and miles you can talk about bad luck X.x

[skidrogue]

Once you have to use 56 tries to get an item to +9 and spend over 60 dollar on eyes and miles you can talk about bad luck X.x

OMG! :eek: That's unbelievable. I believe you, but it's still unbelievable!

[lolznplz]

my friend enhanced a lvl 1 bow to +9 w/o perfect miles or anything from SparkCash
indeed he enhanced it BEFORE there were sparkcash items

ahhh, the good ol' days

[Masenko]

Enhancing has taken a total nosedive....

When i first started playing i actually had to WORK at getting my "Hopeless Enhancer" title (failing like 100 times in a row, maybe more idr), it took me hours of trying NOT to enhance things to get that title.

A few months ago, i aquired the "Cursed Enhancer" title (failing 500 times in a row lol) attempting to enhance 3 pieces of armor.

Granted when i was attempting the titles, i was enhancing t1 items, and the armor was t3&t4 so the sucess rate would ofc be different. But still.....

[angerchild]

I wonder how people get +9 lvl 80 axes that are item lvl 4

A lot of SC and a lot of time on your hands...it's not an easy process.
I speak from experience, so far at t4 I've enhanced my BK hammer and a axe.
+8 & +9 are the absolute worse

[joshbl56]

my old archer that i deleted (wish i didn't T.T) could enhance an item to +6 without ever failing to upgrade. My new archer cant even get past +3 >.<
I even used my old archer to upgrade some dudes t2 weapon and it never failed. I miss my old archer T.T

[mehe25]

I honestly just gave up on it.

Just seems as though its a service that I have to pay for to get my weopon destroyed.

[Plushii]

OMG! :eek: That's unbelievable. I believe you, but it's still unbelievable!

I really regret enchancing afterwards xD but when you start you just don't wanna stop, it eat money a lot money XD *is gonna lay off enchancing for a while*

[gryphkat]

I sort of took a gamble with my BK weps, since if they break, it's no big loss of a godly stat item. Not hard to replace with another, and relatively cheap for all but the axes.

I enhanced my BK xbow to +4 without using eyes and miles. I broke one at +2, then on the second weapon I got it all the way to +4.
THEN I bought a stack each of eyes/miles/golds. I got it to +9 with one eye/mile/gold left from each stack, when I finished.

Then I decided to gamble some more the other night, and wound up breaking two xbows, and a bow without ever getting them past +1 xD

[Ryokosha]

They never ever changed the success rate of enhancing or so the staff said and I kinda believe them. That they got lowered when Sparkcash was introduced is just a rumour.

But higher level equipments are harder to enhance, so it makes it seem that they reduce the chance, but actually you just gained levels.

Getting a Level 1 weapon to +9 is still as possible now as it used to be. Getting a Level 2 weapon to +9 is pretty much impossible unless you have 2000 weapons and 10000 stones.

To those who asked where I got the number from, I just calculated them myself by using the statistical results of the "enhancing with red+blue". You first calculate the success change for one try and then keep multiplying them per try.

Level 1 success is like: Almost Every time (Elrue) / Every 2nd time (Lix) / Every 4th time (Xir)
Level 2 success is like: Every 2nd time (Elrue) / Every 4th time (Lix) / Every 8th time (Xir)
Level 3 success is like: Every 3rd time (Elrue) / Every 6th time (Lix) / Every 12th time (Xir)

If you then calculate it for the first 3 tries and you know that it's successful every second time then the chance to get straight to +3 without fail is:
50% * 50% * 50% = 12.5%

[oakrivermark]

The trick is to not enhance without Miles / Eyes. You're not too unlucky, the chances are just really low to get high without Miles / Eyes.

Estimated chance for Level 2 Equips to successfully enhance to a level without any Miles/Eyes:
+1 50%
+2 25%
+3 12.5%
+4 3.6%
+5 0.8%
+6 0.2%
+7 0.03%
+8 0.004%
+9 0.0006%


Just wondering,where you got those exact figures from?

[Ryokosha]

Read my previous post.

[brave_dai]

They never ever changed the success rate of enhancing or so the staff said and I kinda believe them. That they got lowered when Sparkcash was introduced is just a rumour.

But higher level equipments are harder to enhance, so it makes it seem that they reduce the chance, but actually you just gained levels.

Getting a Level 1 weapon to +9 is still as possible now as it used to be. Getting a Level 2 weapon to +9 is pretty much impossible unless you have 2000 weapons and 10000 stones.

To those who asked where I got the number from, I just calculated them myself by using the statistical results of the "enhancing with red+blue". You first calculate the success change for one try and then keep multiplying them per try.

Level 1 success is like: Almost Every time (Elrue) / Every 2nd time (Lix) / Every 4th time (Xir)
Level 2 success is like: Every 2nd time (Elrue) / Every 4th time (Lix) / Every 8th time (Xir)
Level 3 success is like: Every 3rd time (Elrue) / Every 6th time (Lix) / Every 12th time (Xir)

If you then calculate it for the first 3 tries and you know that it's successful every second time then the chance to get straight to +3 without fail is:
50% * 50% * 50% = 12.5%

i like statistical stuff, this thread made things clear,
your first thread was not clear when u say +9 have 0.0006% possibility, i thought it means from +8 to +9 and i was like :S, but now i understand it's for ALL THE WAY from +0 to +9...

so any calculations for how many tries you need to get all the enhancement titles in http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/Title_Guide? i'm lazy to do it :p

[Ryokosha]

Yeah I meant the chance to successfully enchance from +0 to +x without any Miles / Eyes.

[brave_dai]

i made some calculations about getting enhancement titles based on your statistics..

i was focusing on the last titles related to success/fail count:
Master Enhancer: 1000 successful enhancements without logging off.
Cursed Enhancer: 50 consecutive failed enhancements or 500 total failed enhancements without logging off.

assuming T1 enhancement in use
here's the results without going into details (maybe i'll post later):
you need (the more the better):
Elrue[1]: 1503 at least (151 stacks)
Lix[1]: 321 at least (33 stacks)
Xir[1]: most probably you won't need.

the plan is to start enhancing T1 weapons, 1 by 1 till it break. at the end of the day you would have the titles mentioned earlier.

breaking possibility is not included, so this study may FAIL.

one day (don't ask when) i'll try it myself and till you the results

[monkeyman-ownsyou]

The trick is to not enhance without Miles / Eyes. You're not too unlucky, the chances are just really low to get high without Miles / Eyes.

Estimated chance for Level 2 Equips to successfully enhance to a level without any Miles/Eyes:
+1 50%
+2 25%
+3 12.5%
+4 3.6%
+5 0.8%
+6 0.2%
+7 0.03%
+8 0.004%
+9 0.0006%

not too unlucky? I broke i don't even know how many axes,bows, and staffs in one day at +1....actually trying to get to +1 so i think with a 50% chance and i keep breaking them , i'm screwed compared to the statistics

[WolfAngel9414]

They never ever changed the success rate of enhancing or so the staff said and I kinda believe them. That they got lowered when Sparkcash was introduced is just a rumour.


Um.

I fully believe they played with our success rate. I used to enhance all the time for titles. After a maintenance (don't ask me when, I don't write this stuff down, I just remember it happened because I was angry) I can barely get a lvl 1 item to +6. +4 for a lvl 2 item is doing good nowadays without eyes.

I don't think it was lowered when Sparkcash was introduced, but I know they did change the success rate at one point in time for one reason or another. It's rather obvious.

I used enhanced a full page of level one items to +6 and give them away to noobs(if anyone would accept the trade). I would spend tons of money trying to do that now. Don't tell me they didn't change something.

[lshinjikajil]

I wonder what are the percentage to get a weapon to +10

+10 weapon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4881/10weapon.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10weapon.jpg)


"When getting killed by a monster one of the items in your inventory will be dropped."

[heavensedge]

They never ever changed the success rate of enhancing or so the staff said and I kinda believe them. That they got lowered when Sparkcash was introduced is just a rumour.

But higher level equipments are harder to enhance, so it makes it seem that they reduce the chance, but actually you just gained levels.

Getting a Level 1 weapon to +9 is still as possible now as it used to be. Getting a Level 2 weapon to +9 is pretty much impossible unless you have 2000 weapons and 10000 stones.

To those who asked where I got the number from, I just calculated them myself by using the statistical results of the "enhancing with red+blue". You first calculate the success change for one try and then keep multiplying them per try.

Level 1 success is like: Almost Every time (Elrue) / Every 2nd time (Lix) / Every 4th time (Xir)
Level 2 success is like: Every 2nd time (Elrue) / Every 4th time (Lix) / Every 8th time (Xir)
Level 3 success is like: Every 3rd time (Elrue) / Every 6th time (Lix) / Every 12th time (Xir)

If you then calculate it for the first 3 tries and you know that it's successful every second time then the chance to get straight to +3 without fail is:
50% * 50% * 50% = 12.5%

You sure are smart......I hope you play on Teva and are unmarried so I can find you and make you like me:D I'll gift the wedding pack.....lol.

[willemstyle]

The trick is to not enhance without Miles / Eyes. You're not too unlucky, the chances are just really low to get high without Miles / Eyes.

Estimated chance for Level 2 Equips to successfully enhance to a level without any Miles/Eyes:
+1 50%
+2 25%
+3 12.5%
+4 3.6%
+5 0.8%
+6 0.2%
+7 0.03%
+8 0.004%
+9 0.0006%

it's not 100% true.
If a enhancement fails, it has only 25% chance on breaking and 50% chance on degrading. you should calculate that too.

Anyways,
I managed T2 items to +6 without eyes or miles, but after that i was using eyes and miles coz the xir stage has a way too low success chance.

[willemstyle]

I wonder what are the percentage to get a
"When getting killed by a monster one of the items in your inventory will be dropped."

***? O.O

is this a joke? lol, fun if u ahve a +10 hellgait weapon, and then get killed XD

[Ryokosha]

You sure are smart......I hope you play on Teva and are unmarried so I can find you and make you like me:D I'll gift the wedding pack.....lol.
Lol, sorry but I don't play the game anymore, I only give support on the forums these days. Thanks for the offer anyways especially if you're female, tehe. :3

it's not 100% true.
If a enhancement fails, it has only 25% chance on breaking and 50% chance on degrading. you should calculate that too.
This is true, I considered that as well, but the chance of degrading an items and then successfully upgrading it again two times is so low compared (only around 5% of it) to the "linear" calculation, that it can almost be ignored. If you look closely I rounded the numbers anyways, so it's easier to memorize them (3.6% is not a quarter of 12.5%).



@WolfAngel
I personally couldn't really notice a change in the success rates. It was always hard to get a Level 2 weapon to even +3 without miles/eyes. Later it was still as hard. The second statistics we drew also were only slightly lower than the previous ones so that you can say this is still within the error margin of the statistics.


Just for reference, the success chances the first time we calculated them where something like this:
Level 1 - 85% / 55% / 25%
Level 2 - 73% / 46% / 19%
Level 3 - 61% / 37% / 13%

Later we found this is more appropriate:
Level 1 - almost all / every 2nd / every 4th
Level 2 - every 2nd / every 4th / every 8th
Level 3 - every 3rd / every 6th / every 12th

I suppose they are quit lower in the second calculation at some parts... but SKiNG said they never changed them, so I'm not sure about if we just were lucky when drawing the first statistic.

I think the success changes actually work in x/8 because there are 8 slots to place the game. Yeah the graphic is just for show, but it could still be related.

I suppose it works somehow like this (but that is pure guessing):

Pessimistic:
Level 1 - 7 of 8 / 4 of 8 / 2 of 8
Level 2 - 4 of 8 / 2 of 8 / 1 of 8
Level 3 - 2 of 8 / 1 of 8 / every second time 1 of 8 otherwise 0 of 8

Optimistic:
Level 1 - 7 of 8 / 5 of 8 / 3 of 8
Level 2 - 6 of 8 / 4 of 8 / 2 of 8
Level 3 - 5 of 8 / 3 of 8 / 1 of 8

[deefer]

It depends on the character level enhancing too.

My L75 Paladin has better luck on T2 weapons than my level 49 Fighter for example.

I have to say that at the moment with no one paying for non-enhanced greens and the fact I can make stones up to T3 Elrue I generally try and + any drops I get so the number I've blown up is incalcuable. Most be over a hundred if not more.

Don't pick up T1 weps any more but T2 I'll try to get to +4, maybe +5 before I bottle it. T3 as I only make Elrue I only ever try to get to +2 or +3 but if I'm trying to do 10 weapons in a batch I'm lucky if 2 survive to target level even swapping weapons each time it succeeds, closing and reopening Refine and various other "superstitions" I've adopted.

Dunno if they're based on fact but this is what I've observed

I always place the Elrue etc in the same slot (4 o'clock one) if you stick to the same slot you don't curse as much when it stops on the slot you had it in last spin.

If you watch the slot in inventory you always know if it'll blow up as the item disappears from inventory while the "selector" is still spinning

I've Found that I get better success rate using my "home made" standard stones rather than lucky/blessed.

I've only EVER had 1 lucky/bless stone give me more than +1 on a spin.

The percentage success chance has decreased in the past 6 months (took me 23 attempts to get from +8 to +9 on level 70 Hammer using a level 89 enhancer)

People don't buy green +0 anymore (see previous topic)

[deefer]

I wonder what are the percentage to get a weapon to +10

+10 weapon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4881/10weapon.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10weapon.jpg)


"When getting killed by a monster one of the items in your inventory will be dropped."

The chance of losing something when killed is something used in Perfect World which a friend of mine plays, which is why you rarely see people soloing at higher levels as you can't pick up you own dropped item. Someone else has to.

It can be anything from some of the mats you've picked up to your favourite weapon or armour, its totally random.

If they brought that in over here could you imagine the arguements if someone's +9 Helgait suddenly appeared on the floor and was swiped by a passer by ...... lol

[heavensedge]

Lol, sorry but I don't play the game anymore, I only give support on the forums these days. Thanks for the offer anyways especially if you're female, tehe. :3


T_T....story of my life....*cries*

[zephyr_wind]

After the third weapon I broke at T2 I started using eyes/miles and I use them sparingly. Now I'm at T3 and this is it. I'm working on my staff little by little until it's +9 after that I'm done. If I can't afford to buy a +9 lv 70 then I'll just stick with +0. Maybe I'll pull less aggro in a party >.>

[WolfAngel9414]

I'll be the first to object if they implement that, I carry my important items with me in case I need them, if I sacrifice for a player or lose my weapon because I lagged out, I'm going to have a severe problem playing this game again. I quit several other games because dying = losing your good items. EVERY SINGLE TIME..I seemed to lose the item I DIDN'T want to lose. So I desperately hope they don't put that into this version of the game.

In the other games you could only lose items that were in your inventory and not on your character. Items that were bound to you were included whether they were on your character or in your inventory.

Imagine getting that ultra rare Ring of Isya, dying, and some noob grabs it and walks off to NPC it. o.o It makes me want to cry and I haven't even seen a Ring of Isya.

[240sx]

the day i cant afford to buy +9s, is the day i find a new game. and thats getting closer and closer. also if they put the drop random item, ill straight up leave that day. but we all know they will put a magical bag in the store to save your items from dropping. -.- frankly im tired of SC ruling the world of fiesta *is not buying anymore SC until i see changes*

"Ok, so back in the day before the time of dinosaurs and gold nines, i enhanced and would always +9 with 1-2 stacks of red eyes and blue eyes, and using basic stones. So, after the nines came out i could still +9 with 1-2 stacks of each, again using the cheaper basic stones. Now, today and the other day when enhancing i got to +8 and had to grab more eyes and nines and every single one failed. its sad to have to use 30 red 30 blue 30 gold to only get +9, but i used a few luckys and the rest normal, i guessed maybe it has the lucky stones and their dropped % rate. so i gave in another go today, and i figured i would use nothing but blessed stones cause they raise the % rate. 20 of each eye and nine... and its only +8 using blessed stones... so, this tells me how full of BS enhancing has become. those gold nines raise % rate and blessed does the same, :mad: just kinda pissed thats its costing more and more just to +9 a item. i know it generates money for outspark, but wouldnt you want to encourage people to buy a few less stones(more to spend on other items) and keep them happy rather then making them fork over more and more money.. Its to the point of 25$+ per +9ing a item, doesnt really seem worth it anymore.

well just thought id let that out, im getting tired of enhancing failing more and more... and iv done many items, from NPC-purples. also +9s in game price have sky rocketed...

discuss how you feel about enhancing, and if its getting worse for you.


Oh PS... all the items i do are T2 ;) so its not like they should be this hard to enhance..."

from my post in another section.

[rasengan1996]

LOL i hve the same horrid luck.
I broke my Lv60 Splendor with awesome stats on like, what, +2 -.-"
Really lame.
I suspect Outspark is making the success rates lower and lower for us to purchse their Sparkcash items... darn i want some Sparkcash D:

[240sx]

LOL i hve the same horrid luck.
I broke my Lv60 Splendor with awesome stats on like, what, +2 -.-"
Really lame.
I suspect Outspark is making the success rates lower and lower for us to purchse their Sparkcash items... darn i want some Sparkcash D:

and the lower it gets the less and less people are willing to spend on them.

heres the way i see it... economy sucks right now, so people are in save money mode. making it hard to enhance would pull more money, but with the crappy economy wouldnt you want to make it cheaper or easier to enhance to get more people to spend on SC...

[Ryokosha]

Why should "not being able to afford +9 equips" make you quite the game? I never could afford any +9 equip, but that certainly was not the reason why I quit.

[240sx]

Why should "not being able to afford +9 equips" make you quite the game? I never could afford any +9 equip, but that certainly was not the reason why I quit.

because it the cool thing to do :eek: lol so far what i do is buy a nice non+ and +9 it. like my ggk axe im not paying 5g for a lvl40 weap lmao i bought it and +9d it all under 1g, now my CG axe is stuck at +8.

[evil_naruto]

i probly will not buy anymore SC

[battler22222]

I'm never gonna enhance too hard.... i'll never make it to +6

[akarih]

For T1 weap, I have only managed getting it to +6 (but that's because I only could make elrues until T2). Recently, I am getting really unlucky though, kept degrading/breaking weaps... So I may just keep my green as a +0 lol. I really have something to use, then nothing. (There was one period when my cleric has no shield at all, since I broke its current one, for at least a few levels. I was a few levels away from getting new equip, so I decided to brave it through. XD)

[sirius666]

I heard indirectly from a GM that the reason enhancing has a low sucess rate is because it devalues "enhanced" weapons that are supposed to be rare in the game.

Which is BS, because the vast majority of vendors these days seem to sell nothing but +9 weapons.......that does not seem "rare" to me.......and the prices ppl are expecting are way too high....eg: I've seen lvl 20 weps enhanced to +9 in vendors exceeding 2g!

[Ryokosha]

I heard indirectly from a GM that the reason enhancing has a low sucess rate is because it devalues "enhanced" weapons that are supposed to be rare in the game.

Which is BS, because the vast majority of vendors these days seem to sell nothing but +9 weapons.......that does not seem "rare" to me.......and the prices ppl are expecting are way too high....eg: I've seen lvl 20 weps enhanced to +9 in vendors exceeding 2g!
But that would mean the success chance is still too high.

Why do people even complain if there are mainly +9 weapons on the market?

In the other MMORPGs I played getting to the max refine stage was so hard, that you could only accomplish this when you played the game for several years.

[ashen_shugar]

This morning (my time) I went through an entire stack of Red's trying to get my level 70 +7 shield up to +9. Out of that stack the first one hit +8. None of the other 9 Red's hit. After purchasing another stack of Red's the first two were fail. This was in Uruga. I went to Elderine and tried my luck there and just as in Uruga the very first one hit. Thought that was interesting, the first one at two different Blacksmiths hit.

With the difficulty I have had enhancing the level 3 items I don't see the prices going down on these items, if that same experience is typical of enhancing. Too much IRL money being spent to sell too cheap.

[sirius666]

My main point is that all of this is turning Fiesta into a trading game with occasional other stuff to do. I've seen the same vendors, full of +9 stuff set up in town and not moved for days on end. I mean has the average level 40 player got 25g to spend on a so called godly +9 axe?

It does cost money IRL to safely enhance items, but what happened to enhancing just to improve the performance of your own wep instead of just seeing the profit that may be made? It's creating an elite class of players, based purely on the amount of money they are able to spend, rather than their ability to play the game. Just my opinion, but I would suggest that over 50% of blues / +9's you see for sale have never even been used in the game!

[ashen_shugar]

Good point. I think it will depend on the player selling and their hopes for what they want. I think some are just being greedy. I have started to see many items in Uruga being listed for Jewels. But then you run into others who are not just about the money.

For instance, I bought a Blue +9 hammer with a completed lic for a total Crit rate of 14%. I paid 20g for it. Also it does not have KQ stats on it. Selling in a Vendor. I whispered after purchase thinking this may have been a mistake but it was not. Level 70 Blue weapons have almost identical damage to level 80 ones, which is why I thought this was a mistake.

So I guess it mainly depends on the person selling, I have seen pretty much the same weapons at wildly varying prices.

I enhance my shield only to get better DEF, and do not plan on selling for more than 10g when I turn level 80. Most likely someone will purchase it and try to sell it for more.

[realmatic]

why not make it hard to enhance gear?the rich kids who spend all there money enhancing items will find out what those items are really worth(nothing really)and after countless hours of trying to sell them they will have to drop the price jus to get a sell.then they will buy more sc to enhance more items and the cycle will repeat itself.sc buyers keep this game f2p...but yea i think that os or who ever governs this aspect of the game have become greedy

[muckup3]

I +9'd a level 1 fighter shield with no sc. *O* +6~9 with not one fail. XD I only broke 1 or 2 before that aswell.

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

why not make it hard to enhance gear?the rich kids who spend all there money enhancing items will find out what those items are really worth(nothing really)and after countless hours of trying to sell them they will have to drop the price jus to get a sell.then they will buy more sc to enhance more items and the cycle will repeat itself.sc buyers keep this game f2p...but yea i think that os or who ever governs this aspect of the game have become greedy

Dude, you posted on a thread that's like 2 years old...

Edit: Oh snap, I did too!

[blackjoker2]

There was a feature in game that nubs can enhance any tier including t5, I tested, to +2 in a rate of 100% successful (never break) but now it is bugged.

It can save you some money of enhancment. OS should fix it at the first place.