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MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 11:45 AM

yes, now please go back to your feeling of superiority about how great the mac is over the PC and leave us alone to our misery :)

Baka. I'm not saying Mac is better than PC. but they should have a game client for people running a Mac.:mad:

TastyTapioca

10-07-2007, 11:49 AM

Baka. I'm not saying Mac is better than PC. but they should have a game client for people running a Mac.:mad:

Well damn, why aren't they bringing out Dead Rising on the PS3? They should have made it for people who play PS3? Why aren't they bringing out Halo3 on the PS3 and Wii?

But serious... I think it boils down to different coding systems (Mac.. PC.. Linux.. etc etc). I don't have a lot of knowledge but I think that it would mean they'd have to unify the code to work together in one world.

remahistehsex

10-07-2007, 11:49 AM

Baka. I'm not saying Mac is better than PC. but they should have a game client for people running a Mac.:mad:

Not every game is like UT or WoW.

And a very useful note for your whole life.

DO NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS FREE.

Sorry, had to caps :p

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 12:12 PM

Not every game is like UT or WoW.

And a very useful note for your whole life.

DO NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS FREE.

Sorry, had to caps :p

I'm complaining because I can't use it. Right now, the issue isn't the problem. What good is something that is free if you can't use it!?:mad:

TastyTapioca

10-07-2007, 12:15 PM

I'm complaining because I can't use it. Right now, the issue isn't the problem. What good is something that is free if you can't use it!?:mad:

Honestly speaking, when is the last time MMORPGs were on free and on a Mac though? Well, I don't count Second Life as a RPG but it is a MMO..

Gravvi

10-07-2007, 12:18 PM

get a freaken windows emulator for mac and stop posting how u can't play. Truth is u can. They make windows emulators so u can do that.

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 02:23 PM

Honestly speaking, when is the last time MMORPGs were on free and on a Mac though? Well, I don't count Second Life as a RPG but it is a MMO..

Kuso... Hell if I know. It's just fu... Wait, does RuneScape count?:confused:

Talkius

10-07-2007, 02:28 PM

Runescape doesn't count, it is a browser game. I have Vista and the list of games I can play are very limited at this point. So, yay for me and Fiesta...

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 02:37 PM

get a freaken windows emulator for mac and stop posting how u can't play. Truth is u can. They make windows emulators so u can do that.

Big freakin help.:mad:

Cuddles101

10-07-2007, 03:23 PM

I don't see how it wasn't help. He only offered a suggestion, unless you didn't try then no, he was of no help to you, huh?

MyYing

10-07-2007, 03:52 PM

Deedolith

10-07-2007, 04:01 PM

Before asking for a mac release, think about the amount of work it involve and Outspark's found. You'll deduce that it isn't worth the troubles.

Video game industry cost a lot nowaday, it would be a pure waste of money if every game had a release for every existing operating systems.

MyYing

10-07-2007, 04:08 PM

Not really, it depends on the game,player base and pupularity which Fiesta doesnt have enough of yet.

nachtwind

10-07-2007, 04:14 PM

Not really, it depends on the game,player base and pupularity which Fiesta doesnt have enough of yet.

It does. Developing a game is VERY OS specific. As far as i can tell outspark would have to reqrite ALL grahics, sound and most certainly network code to make it work on Mac/Linux/Amiga/whateverisleft. And if you think of it: How much work would it be compared to what writing a whole new game? The answer should be obvious. I wouldnt Count on getting a Mac Version at any time. Btw, are you running an Intel Mac or an PowerPC? If you have an Intel, why dont you simply install WindowsXP as second OS? Its kinda easy *points at his mac* and runs smoothly...

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 04:22 PM

nachtwind

10-07-2007, 04:24 PM

On whoes part? It's also a waste of money to buy a second computer to play an RPG.

he who decides on installing windows/mac/linux should know its advantages/disadvantages.

CandySauce

10-07-2007, 04:27 PM

Big freakin help.:mad:

Actually it is big freakin help!
You havent heard of a emulates before..

:D

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Metal in the mighty world of gaming my teacher always says PC's are for playing the games and Mac's are for making them ^^ . So with that said you can either ...
A. Get a windows emulator like stated before

B. Buy a PC or

C. STFU AND STOP B!TCHING YOU FCKTARD and let us play what you can not ^.-b

D. Stop filling our forums up with nonsense aswell as doing choice C ^^

The choices are up to you, now if you dont mind I'm off to the wonderful world of Isya (Fiesta)
btw I own both a mac and a pc lucky me yay!!!

C &D. Hey, **** you, okay? No one asked you to post a god damn reply. And don't call me a ****tard. And fore the record, rubbing something in someone's face will only make them ***** about it more.

A. Don't those cost money? I'm not spending hours looking for a free emulator.

B. I'M NOT SHELLING OUT ANOTHER 3,000+ DOLLARS FOR A SECOND COMPUTOR JUST TO PLAY A GOD DAMN RPG!:mad:

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 04:30 PM

Acturally it is big freakin help!
You havent heard of a emulater before..

:D

Yes I have. I have a GBC emulator and several games for it, and a friend of mine has an NES and GBA emulator.

CandySauce

10-07-2007, 04:30 PM

Then why are you moaning?

nachtwind

10-07-2007, 04:31 PM

B. I'M NOT SHELLING OUT ANOTHER 3,000+ DOLLARS FOR A SECOND COMPUTOR JUST TO PLAY A GOD DAMN RPG!:mad:

400$ will absolutely do ;0) (At least if you have a screen as well as mouse and keyboard).

CandySauce

10-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Wait.. why dont u sell your mac.. and get a cheap comp?..

Rokkaku

10-07-2007, 04:32 PM

C &D. Hey, **** you, okay? No one asked you to post a god damn reply. And don't call me a ****tard. And fore the record, rubbing something in someone's face will only make them ***** about it more.

A. Don't those cost money? I'm not spending hours looking for a free emulator.

B. I'M NOT SHELLING OUT ANOTHER 3,000+ DOLLARS FOR A SECOND COMPUTOR JUST TO PLAY A GOD DAMN RPG!:mad:

Man, grow up, seriously. Go find something else to complain about. And if you don't know how to make a great PC for under a thousand, then you should stick to Mac anyway. And go ahead, reply and complain about this post also, because I won't be coming back to look at what you typed.

CandySauce

10-07-2007, 04:34 PM

Man, grow up, seriously. Go find something else to complain about. And if you don't know how to make a great PC for under a thousand, then you should stick to Mac anyway. And go ahead, reply and complain about this post also, because I won't be coming back to look at what you typed.

Omg! A GOOD ANSWER!
Im going too.. i think this is useless when everybody tried to help..

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 04:37 PM

You know what? **** you people. Some of us can't go tossing money at computors. Most of you people are so ****ing stupid. "STFU AND STOP *****ING YOU ****TARD and let us play what you cannot." Rubbing it in my face is not going to shut me up! Nor is giving me responses that **** me the **** off. And to those of you who waste money on second computor just to play games, you people are loosing braincells. So **** off, the lot of you.

P.S. To whoever was the first to suggest the windows emulator, I'm sorry for being an *** about it. That was probably the ONLY good idea here. I think I'll try it. The REST of you can go **** yourselves. Or jump off a cliff. I prefer #2.

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 04:41 PM

Wait.. why dont u sell your mac.. and get a cheap comp?..

*Deep breaths...* I'm NOT selling this computer. I've got a ton of crap on it, iTunes is gay and doesn't let me transfer video perchases, and this computer was a birthday gift. If I sold it, I'd seem really ungrateful.

nachtwind

10-07-2007, 04:41 PM

P.S. To whoever was the first to suggest the windows emulator, I'm sorry for being an *** about it. That was probably the ONLY good idea here. I think I'll try it. The REST of you can go **** yourselves. Or jump off a cliff. I prefer #2.
Appreciated....

You wont find a Windows Emulator that will be able to run this game. as i mentioned above, do you run a G3/G4 or a Intel Mac?

Gravvi

10-07-2007, 05:41 PM

Big freakin help.:mad:

it should help. It is made so u can use windows programs. SO get it. Stop whining that it isn't mac compatable. Just get an emulator so u can play. It is as simple as that.

g9672001

10-07-2007, 05:46 PM

Most games were made for pc. Almost all free online mmorpg games are pc why should this game be

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 05:47 PM

Appreciated....

You wont find a Windows Emulator that will be able to run this game. as i mentioned above, do you run a G3/G4 or a Intel Mac?

Ummm... I dunno... 2 GH Intel core duo, I think.

MetalDragon

10-07-2007, 05:48 PM

Most games were made for pc. Almost all free online mmorpg games are pc why should this game be

Well someone SHOULD think about the Mac users for once.:mad:

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 02:01 AM

Well someone SHOULD think about the Mac users for once.:mad:

No. Writing games for or on Mac is a pain in the ***.. well ALL programming on Mac is.. anyway.
You have an intel, so go and get 'Bootcamp' from the Apple website and install it. With Bootcamp you can easily and without any problems/dangers install Windows next to you OSX so you can switch between those OSs. The emulator idea is also good, but i have yet not seen any Emulator that could emulate Windows with full DirectX environment - so must certainly this game would not run on it - as wouldnt it run fast anyway.

Flashrave

10-08-2007, 02:27 AM

metal, don't listen to these *****es, macs are awesome.

the thing is, while they ARE extemely user friendly, the vast majority(read-->95%) of peole out there use a windows based OS.

From a developers standpoint, why in gods green earth would ANYONE make a game for the 5% of mac users out there? only a handful of them would ever play the game. the audience is just too small.

Then, consider: if more people started buying macs, suddenly YOU would not be "that cool mac guy" anymore. plus, more viruses would be written for macs, meaning you would have to (gasp) put anti-virus software on a mac.

i LOVE macs. but i NEVER want to see them become as popular as PC's. Do you understand? If a handful of displeased gamers it what it takes, then that's what it takes.

Sorry :(

MyYing

10-08-2007, 02:45 AM

C &D. Hey, **** you, okay? No one asked you to post a god damn reply. And don't call me a ****tard. And fore the record, rubbing something in someone's face will only make them ***** about it more.

A. Don't those cost money? I'm not spending hours looking for a free emulator.

B. I'M NOT SHELLING OUT ANOTHER 3,000+ DOLLARS FOR A SECOND COMPUTOR JUST TO PLAY A GOD DAMN RPG!:mad:

L-O-FCKIN-L !!!

If this ***** were'nt so damn funny I'd actually take offense to that ^^
Not only have you put down every bit of advice (then made a **** poor attempt at redeeming yourself ) you have still managed to keep your B!TCHY status xD !!!
And for that i applaud you lolz,cyas b!tch oops i meant fcktard...wait i actually meant both xD

p.s. Btw no one asked you to be a god damn b!tch...but you are

Cuddles101

10-08-2007, 04:48 AM

Flash Rave, that has got to be the most intellectual argument for Mac users in this entire post. Im a PC user myself and would love to get a Mac sometime. I tinkle with Photoshop and at my graphic design college we used Macs. My friend who owns a graphic design company uses a Mac. Macs are great, but they're not perfect either.

Like someone said earlier, PCs are for playing games and Macs are for making them.

MyYing

10-08-2007, 05:06 AM

Like someone said earlier, PCs are for playing games and Macs are for making them.

That would be me and that quote is my teachers (he's the reason i now own both a pc and mac lol )

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 05:08 AM

Like someone said earlier, PCs are for playing games and Macs are for making them.

No serious programmer would ever agree to that. Macs are good for many things, but useless when programming.. (They dont even have a working .Net environment, and thats a shame since it is open source available..)

Cuddles101

10-08-2007, 05:18 AM

Sorry MyYing. I should have credited you (and your teacher) but I was too lazy to look up the rest of the post. My apologies.

nachtwind, you probably have a point there but I was thinking more along the line of the graphical aspects of game making. I know they can be done using PC as well I just thought Macs were better suited to it. I don't know really, I never had to make a game at my college before.

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 05:25 AM

For graphical works i would always choose a mac before using a PC, but as far as programming is concearned it is really hard to work nowadays with Macs. Some years ago, in the late 90s it was different, but till that time much has changed and nowadays 'managed' languages seem to be more and more spreading instead of plain C/C++. And since Mac does not in any way uses any 'managed' assemblys (In other words a .Net/MONO runtime) managed programs wont run on any Mac although they use x86 CPUs now - and thats a shame. If they'd be able able to run and develop managed programs everything would be different..

Cuddles101

10-08-2007, 06:23 AM

Ah, I see. It's a shame though since Macs are real powerhouses. Maybe, one day they can update them to support those 'managing' capabilities? I'm not a wizard when it comes to these things so I don't know if that would be even possible.

By the way, I love your signature. It's so true.

MyYing

10-08-2007, 06:39 AM

No serious programmer would ever agree to that. Macs are good for many things, but useless when programming.. (They dont even have a working .Net environment, and thats a shame since it is open source available..)

Did I ever say I went to school for programing O.o...I dont beleive I did but maybe you read differently...I'll just stop here not saying you are wrong in your post(because you did touch on some valid points) but if I never implied that I was going to school for "programing" then you shouldnt come to that conclusion. I know programing but thats not what I go to school for lol. And I use my Mac for graphics so maybe that will give you some sort of hint. Anyways nice post and have a great day (just dont imply next time) ^^ .

*Edit* i jus saw that wasnt directed towards me lol damn maybe i should jus sleep eyes are fckin me up lol.

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 07:02 AM

Did I ever say I went to school for programing O.o...I dont beleive I did but maybe you read differently...I'll just stop here not saying you are wrong in your post(because you did touch on some valid points) but if I never implied that I was going to school for "programing" then you shouldnt come to that conclusion. I know programing but thats not what I go to school for lol. And I use my Mac for graphics so maybe that will give you some sort of hint. Anyways nice post and have a great day (just dont imply next time) ^^ .

*Edit* i jus saw that wasnt directed towards me lol damn maybe i should jus sleep eyes are fckin me up lol.

No problem, i was confused for a few seconds *G* but this is clear now i think ;0)

Tamlinari

10-08-2007, 07:16 AM

If anything they need to start working on a Linux version because Eee Pc is due out this month and that is Linux OS.
It won't be long before millions of kids and students all over the world will have Linux based OS on their PCs.
As for Mac,,,, eahhhh.
I like the OS but it is not really popular as a gaming platform as was previously mentioned however it is should be easy to run Linux based programs on Mac OS.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Just my opinion.
:D

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 07:22 AM

you asked for a correction ;0)

Linux is not Linux is not Mac ;0)

Right, porting between Linux and Mac is easier than porting from Windows to Mac (most of the time) but because of the structure of Linux even porting from one Linux to another one, even from one system to another CAN be pretty hard, not to mention the amount of work needed to rewrite a program done under linux to run under Mac. Sure OSX IS 'only' an other linux in its core, but the core is so fundamentaly changed, that it is hard to see it as Linux. Though all the base frameworks like OpenGL and Co work on all three platforms its still no easy task to write for all three. And since we have the easy fact that this game runs DirectX we face the problem that it is based upon a library that is absolutely not available neither in linux nor in Mac ;0)

MyYing

10-08-2007, 07:26 AM

Wow this thread went from a crazed rant to an actual Pc & Mac discussion aswell as toned down lol funny how this thread changed(tho it changed for the best lol)

nachtwind

10-08-2007, 07:29 AM

ranting is simple yet boring, but having a topic about macs and pcs that not ends up in calling each other names is a delicate work and hard to achieve yet MUCH FUN! ;0)

Cuddles101

10-08-2007, 07:32 AM

I must admit, I've learned alot here, which is surprising considering the initial post. I guess it's true what they say about getting into a debate with a level-head and not a hot-head.

TastyTapioca

10-08-2007, 07:32 AM

Speaking of Macs, is anyone here actually playing Fiesta Online via an Windows emulator? I met someone on the Bug forums that is having errors trying to run his. Thought maybe I'd ask if anyone who is running it on a emulator could maybe help him.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15246