AOE mage ^^ How?

[noobeau]

Hi guys, I am newbie mage and kinda noob to use frost :(.:(
Ok, get to the point. AOE T-T, I wanna do aoe. (with aco ^^):mad:

What defence stat point should I have to do aoe?:confused:
What kinda gear should I wear?:confused:
What lvl should I become?:confused:

I kinda want to know the detail ^^ he he he.:cool:
Now my mage is lvl 69. I think just map around eir is where i wanna aoe.

Thank you very much. ^^;)
Have a good one ^^

[Jackieliu]

maybe you need all your gears to be at least ap6 +5 to +6 and have the cape and bell..might work...best is to make a tank class, rogue, disc, etc

[tazsbigtoy]

If you have all 6 ap gears, get them to at least +4 and have a love cloak and green bell you can aoe maps. Use the guide Skid Row made on defense needed in the game play section of the forums to see what maps you can do with your defense. I used mind buster to gather the mobs as it uses only a little mp and isn't too noisy. I have seen mages use magic thunder to do it. Use magic ice to slow hard hitters so you can move away from them or to get them out of your mob. Save arrest for rescuing you healer or other emergencies. You will need a healer or a lot of sc hp pots. I started aoeing while still an app, frost isn't really necessary if you have the enhanced gear and sc defense items. I will warn you that you can only do it for awhile, eventually everything you can tank will run from you and stuff that don't run exceeds your defense. I was able to tank up to level 78 though, but the last couple of levels I could only do 2 maps and the experience wasn't that great. It's a lot of fun while it lasts though.

[sweet-devil]

wanna try something better than aoeing d= ?

go to eir (maybe rudwork will be good) maps , use frost on a bunch of monsters (5 - 10 monsters)
then use lightning till they die , they wont touch u tho , so u wont die (u can do this without aco :0)

[numb_1986]

ok..u need to have like 6ap full set and at least +3 or +4 and yeah like wat tazsbigtoy said u can refer to Skid Row's def for aoe.

if u wan suicide aoe, get a cleric to spam Guardian on u. it's suicide aoe but yeah it's fun. tested it out with my friend and >.< 1sec slow cast of guardian = dead XD

keep to binding in pt aoe is better XD

[tazsbigtoy]

wanna try something better than aoeing d= ?

go to eir (maybe rudwork will be good) maps , use frost on a bunch of monsters (5 - 10 monsters)
then use lightning till they die , they wont touch u tho , so u wont die (u can do this without aco :0)

This would be what they call suicide aoe. But frost has a cool down longer than its duration and it's hard to get more than 3 casts of lightning in before frost wears off. Three casts of lightning wouldn't kill white, pink or red mobs. So he would likely get hit. Depending on the level of the mob and the number, magic shield might keep him alive until he could recast frost and back up. But with +4 6ap gears, cloak and green bell, at 66 he should be able to mob Skitchy or Vanderoll, maybe even as high as Proteron. If not there, the second and third maps east of cv are pretty good maps to get the hand or aoeing too and require less defense.

[sweet-devil]

didnt think frost has that musch cooldown =\

[tazsbigtoy]

Yeah, when I first got it I thought I could maybe frost a mine mob to keep them from running so bad, but it was pretty much impossible. It lasts about 6 seconds but has a cooldown of 8 or 9 seconds. That don't sound like much, but it's plenty enough for half your mob to run away or to hit you. That's one of the reasons we have to run away during assist aoe. You know, frost, lightning twice, run like crazy, run back, repeat.

[dune117]

Basically, mages make lousy aoe'ers. Plain and simple. They are a distance caster, not a tank. It's like inviting a knife thrower to a gun fight. You can sacrifice valuable INT, for def in sc upgrade items, but personally I enjoy seeing a thunder hit for 730 crit, and the usual at 600.

[Kendrah]

Basically, mages make lousy aoe'ers. Plain and simple. They are a distance caster, not a tank. It's like inviting a knife thrower to a gun fight. You can sacrifice valuable INT, for def in sc upgrade items, but personally I enjoy seeing a thunder hit for 730 crit, and the usual at 600.

what are you talking about? Mages/ Wiz/ Arch Mage's can AOE just fine. You can only take small mobs but you kill ubber fast. It's riskier but... It better then waiting to try and get in a aoe pt.

[tazsbigtoy]

Basically, mages make lousy aoe'ers. Plain and simple. They are a distance caster, not a tank. It's like inviting a knife thrower to a gun fight. You can sacrifice valuable INT, for def in sc upgrade items, but personally I enjoy seeing a thunder hit for 730 crit, and the usual at 600.


I don't understand what you mean by sacrificing valuable int for sc upgrade items. What does the sparkcash store have for the face or back that increases intel? The only intel items I ever noticed them offering were the afro and the presidential hat which would have replaced my helm, which wasn't a spark cash item. Tanking apps make the absolute best ssf farmers in the game. They kill so much faster and so much easier than any other class at that level.

[ggBuRNe]

this is an old thread !!!! don't necro ROFL !

u wana aoe? get +6 6ap, get 3 incubators B or defence Pow Pearl accessories with addition of def buff pet, use hp buff, if u have passionate choc use them, advisable to add sta up until 10-20 (1 sta for mage = 11 hp), advisable to use the lepra pet (from boost bundle), get a healer and tank until your hp drop to 1/4.. The damage from the mobs should be less than 70 per mob, so 10 mobs = 700 damage max.. Don't forget to have SC HP and MP pot as back up. Healer must spam heal, no spirit, no major heal, no guardianship while tanking except for minor heal/cooling heal. When the healer get aggroed, they have to use sc hp pot, juice, fruits, tiny hp or w/e to heal and your job is to take the mob away from them.. I heard the mob hit less than 30 with bless from 56-8x ? so aoe is safe with good gears (+5 bleh or awesome +6)..

When ready to kill use frost, move away and magic shield. Why magic shield?? because it would allow the healer to cast guardianship for extra defense. If the mob hit less than 50 damage with bless, with magic shield and guard, the damage from the mobs would become 1,2 or misses.. When the guardianship almost end, cast frost and repeat the same.. Maybe you dont need to magic shield this time if the mobs hp is less than half because a cast of magic shield could be used to cast aoe skill..

Trust me, suicide aoe is much more better and exciting than solo kill. You have to get a good healer who hear understand and hear your instructions (hardest part >> because most healers are just ignorance and think they are good). It is expensive to get those defense and to spend money on pots but it is worth it.. It is advisable to have a pot shop (extra comp) in sz for u and healer to warp and repot so that both of you dont waste time repotting too often in town.. Suicide aoe is exciting and the total exp reward is nearly as good as 3/4 a map aoe and the loots are awesome.. You kill fast in very short times.. By the time a knight or rogue kill their mobs, you had already kill almost the same number as they are.. I remember getting 2 xens per day and had to take turn between me and my healer for it.. Oh and tons of 6ap too xDD.. Another thing, it is advisable to use slime beans for smooth aoe.. I aoed at turmeit for 40-80 damage until level 131.. So there shouldn't be any problem at all xD.. I do believe that I got the same exp as sin aoeing turmeit or slightly less against a warrior aoeing turmeit (charon).. I once told by one of my healer that they get more exp with me than aoeing with a warrior on the same map..

Suicide aoe is far better than begging for party or solo kill.. xD.. tc and enjoy!

[dune117]

The Green Afro of intellegence is what I was refering to. The +15 int really makes a difference in spell power. Unless one doesn't need it due to having mostly +2,3,4/+6 ap's. In that case aoe'ing lesser maps could be a career in ssp's farming. The OP, can research everything on aoeing. It's all here in the forums, just throwing my two cents in.

[ggBuRNe]

The Green Afro of intellegence is what I was refering to. The +15 int really makes a difference in spell power. Unless one doesn't need it due to having mostly +2,3,4/+6 ap's. In that case aoe'ing lesser maps could be a career in ssp's farming. The OP, can research everything on aoeing. It's all here in the forums, just throwing my two cents in.

oooo that is true.. that is for solo killing mate.. The OP is asking info on aoe.. We know that we are not a tanker.. However, in order to gain fast exp, the way to go is to sacrifice yourself.. Therefore, tanking or aoeing yourself is the best way to go to level up fast while grabbing all the 6ap and xens all the way.. Just need a good and trustworthy healer.. It is possible to aoe yourself up until 100+ unless you can get in a constant aoe party or u prefer to solo.. solo is boring x.x ! up to oneself though ^^ tc