Proper etiquette

[Gravvi]

Ok not to be rude but this is something that ruins my day. Let me start by saying "Not Everyone plays this game to make friends they don't really know."

With saying that don't just randomly add someone to your friends or party. It is polite to ask before doing so. If someone declined a proposal don't keep resending.
If someone says "no, I don't want to", do not keep trying to add them. It is distracting.
If someone says "no, I don't want to", don't pm them saying "***." It is rude and apparently they don't want u as a friend or to be in a party with you.

Another thing. "DO NOT ASSUME ALL NEW PLAYERS ARE NOOBS" I have had some person following me around telling me what to do insisting to party. I decline and i get another "***", it is rude. Don't try and help someone when it is not asked or needed.
They said they can help me get this and that.
If someone says "no, I don't want to", Then let them be.
If someone says "no, I don't want to", They apparently can do it by themselves.

Don't walk up to random people offereing a trade without discussing it with them. It is rude and distracting. I have had people walk up to me and request a trade when i am killing a monster trying to either kill me or they were begging for something and thought i had it.

Don't KS the new people thinking they can't handle the monster. THey are in there for a quest and all u are doing is preventing them from doing it. My friend was killing rookie skeletons in echo caves and someone KS her and kept trying to party. She declined and said she is only in here for that monster and then she is gone. He said i can get u the kill if we party. When she was killing it fine herself. Its bad when someone has to make an excuse to get people to leave them be.

Summary: IF someone rejects something stop resending it. Its annoying and rude. Don't make rude remarkes when they turn you down. Don't assume things.

There are probably more things but lost my train of thought in this post.

[TastyTapioca]

Reminds me of the 100 boxes of friendship from one person one night. :p

[aznhmg]

this happens to me too..
it happens to everybody actually....
once...
i was in Forest of Tides...
fighting as usual..
then some random person Party me..
i declined..
he kept sending requests -.-
then i kept declining..
then he finally gave up after like 50 times -.-

[TastyTapioca]

I get those requests. I finally accept them and just sit there. When they tell me to fight. I tell em no and just sit there. You'd think after the 10th rejection it would dawn on them.

[Balder]

Reminds me of this one time this dude needed to kill sharp boar and kept pestering me for party. after the tenth time, I accepted. Once this dude started attacking the sharp boar, I used my roumen scroll and ditched him. 30 secs later, he respawins in roumen too.

I totally LMAO when he was like ***!!! LOL.

[iDraven]

I love this topic, this deserves to be Stickied- nay, implemented into the game somehow, like make it a quest for the shall we say "People with limited intelligence" (To put it a nice way) :p

[Gavener]

Well there is Titles in this game, The more friends in your list the bigger titles like Friend seeker Friendly, popular, celeberty etc, party they want leech or are super lonely, or something, what i like is when i finally break down and accept a party invite the dude makes my life a living hell, will NEVER put it on share loot, or your a Cleric

AND if your a girl Toon evey lonly kid behind a screen wants to party help and befreind you

[Talkius]

Well there is Titles in this game, The more friends in your list the bigger titles like Friend seeker Friendly, popular, celeberty etc, party they want tleech or are super lonely,

AND if your a girl Toon evey lonly kid behind a screen wants to party help and befreind you

I personally think most people put way too much emphasis on the titles. They seem to be saying, "Look at me! Look at me! I have 40 Titles, I am so cool!", but that's just me.

I reject party's from time to time, accept partys from time to time and have been known to randomly give away lvl 15 gear to what appear to be new players. If I get my trade(s) rejected, as they often do get rejected, I make comment about giving away gear to new players and they are much quicker to hit accept. I always forget to make comment first though, maybe I will remember at some point.

[Flashrave]

not everyones a noob, just some peoples need to learn their place. If people ask for your help and you're bored, just help em out.

If they get all nubby on you, boot em or leave.

If i get an invite from ANYONE, i reject it then sent THEM an invite, so i can set up the looting properly. Don't give your control away to someone else, and it'll make partying easier.

[Gravvi]

People shouldn't have a place. Yes you should always help someone if you have time. If someone says they can't help then stop bothering them. Don't go begging for money and items then.

[0Gravity]

And don't get mad when you're not rez'd and laying 3 feet from a town gate....

[Trebori]

I have guild invite,party invite,shout, and trade all turned off while I am in the field soloing( which I do 90% of the time). It cuts down on being bothered by most of the annoying little 10 year old twits.

If someone I don't know starts sending me whispers, then I turn that off for a while aswell.

ALL of these can be toggled on/off from the options window.

[Gravvi]

Ok like I said before which happened again. I am doing a quest and all of the sudden i get a random party invite. I don't want one so i reject. Within the next 30 min i got 25 more invites. So finally i said "please stop inviting me i would have accepted if i wanted to join the party" Since i didn't join his party all he did was KS me.

[manji2501]

Some people even send you a party invite without saying anything first, and right after the invite, even before you answer, they start kill stealing you. Its like they are saying: " hei you fkkng noob, party me or ill ks you like hell".
..fine, ill just get out of here and go about my bussiness and leave the player fighting the monster. If the player persists, ill just sacrifice some exp (if im not playing a cleric) and throw a mob against said player.
I do NOT accept party invites or friend invites if the person inviting does not talk to me first;and i specially refuse it if the player asking starts going berserk spamming the chat with "add me, add me", or "pt pls, pt pls" and such similar idiotic behavior.
So I say:
- You want a party for the game, TALK first and dont be a jerk or immature. Just because it is a game it does not mean one can act like a spoiled child, act like a moron, or act just like one was on the street calling names out loud to ppl you dont even know.
- You want a stupid title, EARN it through normal means like everyone else.
- You want a "friend", go outside to the realworld and find yourself one. duh.
Get the picture? what part of "NO" dont you understand?

It seems that some people are just plain deaf dumb blind. I mean, even in the ingame guide (press F10 key) there are some small etiquette guidelines.... like play the game for fun, dont be rude and dont ask GM's for buffs and whatnot..

[fslackity]

I see these points, you see people like this in every game. I thought that I'd see less of them in this game, because it's in beta test, but no. Anyway, I find that some ranged people are really bad at KSing. Here's a tip, check before you click. If the monster is losing HP, chances are someone is attacking it. You can generally tell. Accidents do happen, however if someone constantly KSes, he/she is being rude and should stop and think.

I find that if someone is fighting something bigger than them, I'll wait till they are running away from it before I kill it. The exp loss from dying in this game isn't as bad as most games, but having to come back to where you were is, so I feel this is ok.

Bugging someone in any way is rude. I tend to solo, but will party with someone if they are in the same area as I am. That way I don't have to worry as much about KSing and I can help anyone that needs it. However when you bug someone, hat is considered a reportable offense.

[lilywhite]

Yes. YES. Players who insistently try to friend or party with you without even saying a word to you first are flipping annoying. It's not that hard to send someone a whisper asking whether they want to join the party.

And don't even get me started on the idiots who go around hitting on any female toon they see. Telling someone "you look sexy" when every other player looks exactly the same is just pathetic. Luckily, I've found that using long words tends to put them off. :D

[aegrimonia]

the random friend invites are from people just looking to get the friendseeker title.. they don't care whether you say no or not, they just want the title.

Some people have started sending friend requests seconds before king's quests to get people distracted.

[Semaj]

i very rarely accept random party invites, the only exception is if im in an area and i save a group of lower lv chars and they invite me. in which case ill party with them for a bit, then go on my way.
and i NEVER add random friends.

[aznhmg]

Added to my guides list keep it up ^ ^

[Leedles]

I find that if someone is fighting something bigger than them, I'll wait till they are running away from it before I kill it.

Just as a note, be careful with this. Some people pull things to places they think are safer and they won't get spawned on as much as where the monster is when they first start fighting it. I know especially in CP unless people are high enough lvl or in a big party, they tend to pull so they only get one or two at a time. It irritates me to no end when people take a monster from me when i'm pulling it out of a heavily populated area/to my party.

[Gravvi]

Not only that mages will hit something and run while waiting for their cooldown time to finish

[Ekairi]

:)
Reminds me of the proper etiquette guide I made for a different game before I came here.

[Decrept]

Glad I came across this. I have been playing maybe a week or two found this while trying to take a break and spend time alone from other games guilds and friends.
I figured it might be fun to run around incognito and just relax without responsibilities and problems. At first it was fun, I have played MMos for many years and enjoy leveling to play in the end game areas and raids.
I chose a cleric so that I could solo and not have to count on anyone to go explore and level, since my plan was to use this as a hide away, but then I grew more and more aggravated by the things I see being discussed here. I have seen some really idiotic behavior in my time and confess to being a part of some myself. I thought I knew how to deal with a lot of BS, but the sheer number of just plain stupid rude and inconsiderate people I have come across here was making me think that maybe this was the norm here. The KSing is really out of hand, to the point where I really felt like just starting to train them, since it's a free game anyways and it doesn't seem that there is any retribution for anything at all anyways. But I settle for hoping they get overwhelmed and stand there and watch while they die yelling "heal plz". :D The people begging for rezzes, constantly is so crazy, they play die beg play die beg, do they actually expect someone to drop what they are doing and come stand there to heal and rez for no freakin reason? Do they think maybe the cleric logged in because he or she may actually want to PLAY?!? Get a friggin group with a cleric in it for cryin out loud or at the least send a tell after all you are ASKING for something from someone. Instead of
REV D9
REV D9
...
over and over Heck I'm only 19 I will hate being 20. In cases like that I really wish the game was PvP. There should be an ownership tag for mobs. Whoever hits it first, or first 10% of damage. Then anyone else who attacks it gets no credit period.

[Summit]

Glad I came across this. I have been playing maybe a week or two found this while trying to take a break and spend time alone from other games guilds and friends.
I figured it might be fun to run around incognito and just relax without responsibilities and problems. At first it was fun, I have played MMos for many years and enjoy leveling to play in the end game areas and raids.
I chose a cleric so that I could solo and not have to count on anyone to go explore and level, since my plan was to use this as a hide away, but then I grew more and more aggravated by the things I see being discussed here. I have seen some really idiotic behavior in my time and confess to being a part of some myself. I thought I knew how to deal with a lot of BS, but the sheer number of just plain stupid rude and inconsiderate people I have come across here was making me think that maybe this was the norm here. The KSing is really out of hand, to the point where I really felt like just starting to train them, since it's a free game anyways and it doesn't seem that there is any retribution for anything at all anyways. But I settle for hoping they get overwhelmed and stand there and watch while they die yelling "heal plz". :D The people begging for rezzes, constantly is so crazy, they play die beg play die beg, do they actually expect someone to drop what they are doing and come stand there to heal and rez for no freakin reason? Do they think maybe the cleric logged in because he or she may actually want to PLAY?!? Get a friggin group with a cleric in it for cryin out loud or at the least send a tell after all you are ASKING for something from someone. Instead of
REV D9
REV D9
...
over and over Heck I'm only 19 I will hate being 20. In cases like that I really wish the game was PvP. There should be an ownership tag for mobs. Whoever hits it first, or first 10% of damage. Then anyone else who attacks it gets no credit period.

Idiots are everywhere in any game and real life. Its one of those un-curable plagues you know, but our scientists are still working hard to find a cure for this yet all attempts have failed.

[nerdzo]

Reminds me of this one time this dude needed to kill sharp boar and kept pestering me for party. after the tenth time, I accepted. Once this dude started attacking the sharp boar, I used my roumen scroll and ditched him. 30 secs later, he respawins in roumen too.

I totally LMAO when he was like ***!!! LOL.

ahh! where are the sharp boars? i cnt find them T.T

[Zelkova]

ahh! where are the sharp boars? i cnt find them T.T

Coordanates: Forest of Mist, D2 (I know this by heart, enough people keep asking) You should know, that the quest info says WHERE the monsters are.

That aside, the question had NOTHING to do with this topic. Next time, please refrain to asking on a new thread, or asking someone in-game.

It annoys me to no end when I get random party invites. I solo 95% of the time, and only look for parties when I get tired of leveling by myself. Guys who say "pt pls" need better grammar. SPELL IT OUT. If I actually accepted, it would be when someone says "Would you please join a party with me?" The kindness and grammar are what makes me say yes. Most of the people who play have serious issues with spelling and grammar.

I hate KSing. People who follow me around just to steal my items deserve a merit of some sort. Things like that make me write the person's name down for future reference:D But, it bothers me that when someone around my level is being attacked my a mob of monsters. Naturally, I want to help them out. There was this guy who was being attacked by 5 or 6 wolves, and he looked like he wasn't going to make it out alive. So I helped him, survived, and he told me "Stop KSing me!". You know what? It's times like that when ungrateful people really get on my nerves. Sheesh, I'm sorry for saving you? Ouch. Sometimes I wish there was Player Killing.:D

[mystri]

Earlier I had someone just walk up while I had four Sharp Phinos on me - not too hard, but I'm low enough that it takes some serious attention to my fighting. Anyway, while I was being mobbed, he would wait for the kills and take the items. I got maybe about two or three of the ~10 drops (which was all stuff I needed).

Anyway, I know I get caught in baaad lag a lot, and while my character is paused, someone else is fighting. When I can move again, sometimes I get that kill shot in. It's not on purpose, but with all the lag around here, I'm sure that doesn't help the situation.

If I ever KS you, it's not on purpose! But the problem is getting worse. People thinking they can get away with it, maybe?

[Gravvi]

For those who get help from others. Don't yell DOn't Killsteal when they say they are trying to help. Just say thank you and i can kill these myself. Another thing is if you don't need help tell them before they come and help.

And yes one thing i do tho is always hit auto pick up because when i am traveling to roumen from Sea of Greed people leave their items around and i pick it up and they can only pick it up after a certain amount of time has past.

[Kizuku]

It annoys me as well when people just add you to get the title. Then they go and delete you off their list, later. I only add friends that I've interacted or partied with. I usually accept random party invites, but I stay in the party depending on whether or not they help me or even do anything with me. However, when I'm over 70%, I usually am training, and don't want company unless it's someone I know or someone who needs help with a quest. I consider it polite to help people whenever I can. That's pretty obvious. (I need to get out of the habit of giving away things I don't need to random people, though. That's just too nice....)

[aznboy28956314]

rudeness + annoyingness(is it a word?) happens to me everyday.

I get friend invite everyday from the same person at least more than like 10 times in a row, when I pm'd the guy and told him stop sending me friend invite because Idk him/she, he/she gets mad and say he/she will ignore me and not be my friend anymore. Which makes me happy but annoyed me.

Another one is when I was in Sea Of Greed lower area, I was getting chased by grave robbers since Sugarism kept on pulling them to me and they attack me once he ran far away enough, and I told him to stop, but he wouldn't stop doing it and followed me everywhere and pulled mobs at me.

About last week or so, I asked a cleric for heal because I was fighting these 4, 5, or 6 mobs at one time and didn't have time to do home and only got 3 HP Pots left. Then once i asked, he pm'd and told me this "HEY! SHUT UP!" and teleported away. I forgot the guy's name, he was too rude to remember, all I know is he's lv20+ from his hammer and shield.

[Gravvi]

*Bump people need to read this* (more now than ever) oh jhannis or some CM can u sticky or delete all posts from here XD i want it to be only post at the moment start this thread fresh without actually making a new one)

[Shadowic2]

Uhg man this reminds me of one time I was on my old account. Was a lvl 40-ish fighter at the time. And I was going to the gate of Forest of Tides for some reason, think i wanted to get some herbs or something.
And I clicked on the Gate and clicked "yes" on the window that popped up at what i THOUGHT was the Gate window. Then after a moment I was like, "okay..I'm not going anywhere...hmm my window looks different...ahh!" And then noticed I had two people in a party O.o. Was two people lvl 10 and under who had sent me the party invite right as I was going through the gate ><.
I dismissed the party and told them sorry that I wasn't partying anyone at the moment.
Luckily they didn't say anything and didn't spam me with party invites.
I really hate it when people try and add you to a party and don't even ask.
Had someone do that when I was on my cleric. I was fighting off 3 zombies and this guy kept trying to party me while he and his group were fighting a zombie master. When I could I typed that I was solo and then went back to concentrating on my zombies. >< but he kept on, hard to kill things when you have a window popping up every 5 seconds. I was sitting there thinking to myself, "You should be focusing on your own party killing the Zombie Master instead of spamming party invites!" And its not like they needed a cleric, they already had one. If they wanted my help for extra healing they could have asked nicely for help once I was finished killing. After a while the invites stopped and they still never said a word to me o.o.

Is it really that hard to ask "Hey would you like to party? For ( grinding, quests etc)?" Before sending an invite to someone you don't know?

[Calsetes]

All I have to say on this issue is this:

If Killstealing is againt the TOS (I'm not sure if it is or not), then report them after asking them to stop. They'll learn real quick not to do that. I know I've been accused of Killstealing once or twice, but I apologized to them and explained that I have satellite internet, which gives horrendous lag (we're talking at least a 2 or 3 second lag normally, which makes it tough to get into Kingdom Quests), and I move away from them. If they're a ranged guy, I see if we can find a compromise, he kills everything -> that way, I kill everything <- that way. Or, I kill everything in close proximity to them, they kill everything far away from them, kind of an "independent buddy system," since we're not partying together.

And as for annoying people, I tend to just ignore them. When they say stuff like "Party with me, I can help you kill that," I party, we kill it, then I leave if they're the annoying "send 30 requests" kind of people. This game needs something of a blacklist I think, just to block all the spammers in towns and annoying people.

[Gravvi]

it is not directly against the ToS. ToS rule it breaks is disrupting the gameplay of another player by preventing them from killing.

[nocturnal_eyes]

reading all of these really helped!!!!! ^ ^

Once a friend and i were in MT killing everything other people werent killing and a cleric started following us....we offered him a party invite and he declined and KSed us!! we got mad and because he kept doing it! we decided to let him die and refused to rez him and he ended up spamming me and my friends

my friend tried to block him and blocked her best friend!!! she was devistated!!

she ended up making a new character to un-block her and she now misses her old cleric!

[oOAnubisOo]

Bump again, I find the biggest issue I have is peeps try to chat at me in game. I know I have whispered a few friends to find them, and then realized they were in battle. So I guess whispering a "hey, when you get time" or "hey, looking for you" and politely waiting for response is a good thing if you want to keep a friendship/partnership in game.

I'm healing a mage friend thats getting pounded in cs and people are coming up to me going, "hey!!!! Can I get a res over hear!!!", "Can you heal me?", and party invites like every 10 seconds!? ***, can't you see I'm trying to keep my current party member breathing? I don't mean to be rude, but if you want a reply of 333333333 (my heal key) then wait till we are done. It's very difficult for a cleric who looks like he/she is just standing there waving their arms around once and a while to stop during battle and be like "hey, whats up!, glad you stopped by!". No offense to a friend I know (check your pm), that did this probably not knowing how cleric has to work at his or her craft. But if I'm distracted and I stop doing my job, Party members die. Thats not a good thing, wasted buffs, scrolls, expensive and most important loss of trust.

I take my char very seriously and have very little time to play, so when I do play, I'm in it for the exp and quests. I have made a few friends and I'm *very* happy to have them as friends. I'd like to keep it that way.

When I play now and get into mode I speak very little, plus I can't type worth a crap and that doesn't help things for quick chats! lol

[Guinevere-Ai]

People take the word "noob" too far...
My own definition of a noob is someone who has complete disregard for etiquette, and who uses chatspeak so often that it is like a second language to them. Not that I don't mind a few "u"s or "ur"s, but sometimes it's just too much to understand...
People who are new to the game are "newbs" or "newbies". They just need a little guidance and they are on their way, unless they can figure things out on their own. c: