To All Epithians at helga raid today 17/4

[Kiljya69]

Helga raiding began at approximately 12 noon GMT-5.
I would like to ask everyone who was there, whether you took screenies or not, to kindly file a report vrs the 'unfortunate' events that took place due to selfishness and greed, as i heard the same thing happenned at the later attempt at around 6-7pm gmt-5. (I'm saying whether u have screenies or not because even if you don't have any, i know many people did take them, and am hopping they have already filed a complaint. Also not everyone on map could be lying right? there was what; a good 30 of us who saw these events?)
It is not just me, nor my fellow guildies, nor my allying guildies, but the vast majority of SC users who participate in Helga raids whom are completely FED UP of behavior such as was shown today.
If this self proffessed future player of the month of april continues to get away with this behavior while we all sit back and twiddle our thumbs, OS wont be in any ability to remove him do to lack of evidence.
Perhaps with a high volume of complaints something will finally be done about the fact that everyone is slowly leaving fiesta/OS games over the drama and greed Helga has created.

It would be about time they turn it into a guild quest style event so as to abstain the same people from ruining the fun for everyone else.
I on the other hand, have already taken my money elsewhere and will continue to boycott the purchase of sc until things are appropriately handled. That is if i even bother to stick around to watch this nonsense.

Also, kindly refrain from blacklisting so as to keep this notice up. Ty.
(And ye i meant 17/3-.-')

[numot]

Im completely tired of this "lemme mob them cuz i dun like them" nonsense.
Ofc, the person prolly did it to buy his Afk/offline guild members time to log in and kill helga themselves. smart, but not that smart.

[Kiljya69]

What annoys me the most is said person was banned for the exact same thing not so long ago.. So what did banning him change? Obviously he didnt learn anything, and his banning for vulgarities didn't teach him anything either, it's time to stop thinking about one persons sc consumption and realise that his presence and all the drama said group is causing is a bigger loss sc wise as we're all leaving OS until they get their act together over this nonsense...

[Corpse65]

what happened at the raid today? i got home and crashed so no idea

[allh0pelost]

i was there.... i tried to fraps what was going on, but by the time i pulled out the recorder "those members" from "that guild" had seemed to settle down... there's always next time. lemme know and i'll pull out the fraps again ;3

[Kiljya69]

i was there.... i tried to fraps what was going on, but by the time i pulled out the recorder "those members" from "that guild" had seemed to settle down... there's always next time. lemme know and i'll pull out the fraps again ;3


Ye GM Rayse logged on and came to the raid for a few mins, thats when they settled down. Problem is second GM left they started up again zzzzz shoulda stayed on map in hide mode -.-

[j0hnny_tsunami4116]

what happened guys....?

i heard alot about it...

but never the full story >.>

care to tell the rest of epithians who didnt attend?



Edit: Drama with a capital D

[Kiljya69]

A specific member of a specific guild decided it would be nice to spend 2 hours pulling mobs onto all raid members both raid attempts in order to delay and ensure his members got drops. Most people on average waste 6-8 magic pots+6 charms/cookies each, and epithians whom were present have had enough of their drama.

[Saruin]

I also have no idea whatsoever about what happened.
Somethin' about training or somethin'?

Yeah, I only saw bits and pieces about "Oh noes" and "Omgz."
I wasn't really paying attention, to be honest.

[The-Great-Paladin]

This thread is way too complicated to follow, can the OP state his guildname please will help a lot to understand quite a bit.

[Kiljya69]

No need to mention guild names as this is addressed to whom was present(hence many guilds), if u were at raids, you know what happenned, and if you weren't you didnt spam sc for some noob to train you with kallaps for some 4+ hours hence u have no need to file a report.

[numot]

state the guild name? so you can cry black listing and have joker close the thread? you may think you are clever but there is always someone sharper than you.

[devin_nicolai]

No need to mention guild names as this is addressed to whom was present(hence many guilds), if u were at raids, you know what happenned, and if you weren't you didnt spam sc for some noob to train you with kallaps for some 4+ hours hence u have no need to file a report.

Im guessing bluewings by the username

Todays raid was failure

[The-Great-Paladin]

state the guild name? so you can cry black listing and have joker close the thread? you may think you are clever but there is always someone sharper than you.

lol?. i said state the OP guildname...
have you no brains?

[Saruin]

state the guild name? so you can cry black listing and have joker close the thread? you may think you are clever but there is always someone sharper than you.

Bumped for epicness.

[The-Great-Paladin]

I will write it much simpler, could the poster of the thread please write down their guild name and press the post quick reply button, not the other guilds involved or players, you cannot blacklist yourself.. thank you.

[numot]

LOL vicious.

btw, Great, need for the OP's guild name, as far as i see it, doesn't play a crucial role in understanding the situation at all.

[Kiljya69]

And i have already stated you were not present hence this thread doesnt concern you, tyvm.

[Saruin]

I will write it much simpler, could the poster of the thread please write down their guild name and press the post quick reply button, not the other guilds involved or players, you cannot blacklist yourself.. thank you.

Lemme guess, so you can war em later? :>

[The-Great-Paladin]

LOL vicious.

btw, Great, need for the OP's guild name, as far as i see it, doesn't play a crucial role in understanding the situation at all.

There was two raids on -.-
first one with BW mainly, second one with Legendary mainly.. i want to know which raid we're on about it helps a lot -.-

But don't worry i found it, much longer than it would have been saying it -.-

ClericalCharm is in Legendary
Omg i just blacklisted myself save me D:



Lemme guess, so you can war em later? :>

Refer to the above...

Legendary do not war over raids unlike some other guilds, we know how to keep our dignity..

Strange how during todays raid Legendary was chainwarred by guilds which no-one ever heard of... could find none of them in any town.

[Kiljya69]

There was about what 10 guilds present? He can have fun warring all of them.
Another thing that was highly uneccessary was this morons mate using t4 buff on all people present in raid forcing all guilds to war themselves so he couldnt undo our buffs. Course he assisted quite a lot by relogging onto several chars and hitting war vrs whichever guild had more people present, also lame but hey at least it enabled us to not have to use our noob guilds to war ourselves so he couldnt undo our buffs... guess he wasn't thinking..... Most childish and immoral display of behavior ive ever seen in any online game and as i pointed out if it is not handled we are all taking our business elsewhere..

Second raid you all only showed up quite awhile after raid was already started in which said person spent another hour trying to destroy going on raid. So i was told anyhow, havent bothered to log on nor care to do so until all of yalls display of lack of in game courtesy and chivalry is handled by OS themselves.
Sadly, many other non bw sp3c and whoever else was there feel the same way. I predict fiesta becoming a paid to play game shortly ^^

[behhinu]

I was present at the helga raid today and I did not see not even 1 person luring the mobs, I think even a GM can confirm that since you told that a GM logged on during that server event.

[The-Great-Paladin]

I won't even waste my time quoting Kiljya69 for the first line refer to my previous post, just proves you know nothing of my guild and nothing of your own by insisting we war over raids.. ever looked in a mirror recently?

Anyway im going to sleep... happy flaming and defending a topic made on assumptions with little to no facts and the majorty of the people defending it being unable to read posts that they quote.

Good night and sweet dreams
<3 you OP despite u blocking me ingame, it breaks my heart =/

[Kiljya69]

There was two raids on -.-
first one with BW mainly, second one with Legendary mainly.. i want to know which raid we're on about it helps a lot -.-

But don't worry i found it, much longer than it would have been saying it -.-

ClericalCharm is in Legendary
Omg i just blacklisted myself save me D:




Refer to the above...

Legendary do not war over raids unlike some other guilds, we know how to keep our dignity..

Strange how during todays raid Legendary was chainwarred by guilds which no-one ever heard of... could find none of them in any town.


Oh rly? Why is it a minimum of 3 Legendary members alt guilds hit war on other guilds inside the raid this morning? As i stated, you were not there, this matter DOES NOT CONCERN YOU, and unless you know ALL the facts, all you are doing here is making yourself look a bit dense...because all your statements are rather easy to prove false at this instant, of course yet again due to the fact that you were not there.
Now stop finding drama, kindly let this thread remain to being about filling a report vrs said person whom proceeded to pull mobs and ruin 5 hours of raiding attempt, ty.
Your opinions over what happenned when there were so many witnesses, when you do not know what happenned to begin with, are nor wanted, nor appreciated.
And hats off to whomever did war Leg during raid serves them right for doing it this morning.
Don't come and try and blame us, we are all inactive in fiesta, we've pretty much moved onto another game, and only ever log on for the raids. Because whether you care to admit it or not the raids are fast and easy when its a group effort. And we've always been there to fully support the raids. It's over, now it'll just cost all even more $$ to get drops instead of sharing the costs.

[Corpse65]

There was about what 10 guilds present? He can have fun warring all of them.
Another thing that was highly uneccessary was this morons mate using t4 buff on all people present in raid forcing all guilds to war themselves so he couldnt undo our buffs. Course he assisted quite a lot by relogging onto several chars and hitting war vrs whichever guild had more people present, also lame but hey at least it enabled us to not have to use our noob guilds to war ourselves so he couldnt undo our buffs... guess he wasn't thinking..... Most childish and immoral display of behavior ive ever seen in any online game and as i pointed out if it is not handled we are all taking our business elsewhere..

Second raid you all only showed up quite awhile after raid was already started in which said person spent another hour trying to destroy going on raid. So i was told anyhow, havent bothered to log on nor care to do so until all of yalls display of lack of in game courtesy and chivalry is handled by OS themselves.
Sadly, many other non bw sp3c and whoever else was there feel the same way. I predict fiesta becoming a paid to play game shortly ^^

A few people aren't going to force fiesta to go p2p lol


but anyway from what your talking about your just making a rant to yourself and others with no proof supporting your rant?

From what i've been asking people since i read your topic khel. I may know what your talking and from what i've gotten from people in OTHER guilds that were at the raid your talking nonsense =\

(not trying to start a flame war with this) You talk about lack of courtesy etc. have you looked at your own guild/members lately? =\


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Oh rly? Why is it a minimum of 3 Legendary members alt guilds hit war on other guilds inside the raid this morning?

What proof do you have that it was our member's alt guilds that warred you.

[Kiljya69]

A few people aren't going to force fiesta to go p2p lol


but anyway from what your talking about your just making a rant to yourself and others with no proof supporting your rant?

From what i've been asking people since i read your topic khel. I may know what your talking and from what i've gotten from people in OTHER guilds that were at the raid your talking nonsense =\

(not trying to start a flame war with this) You talk about lack of courtesy etc. have you looked at your own guild/members lately? =\


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What proof do you have that it was our member's alt guilds that warred you.

Lmao@no proof, if i post the screenies here its blacklisting you noob. Don't test me.
And whom to look at? weve all been unactive for 2 weeks barely spend an hour on a day in which were not afk vending ffs....rofl....
I'm fully aware of whom owns said guilds and co. I'll leave it up to csr's to track the IP if deemed neccessary whereas proving anything to anyone but them=waste of my time and everyone elses who was there. A few of those people spent over 5k usd in a year in sc. And it isnt just a 'few' people that are leaving. And if you want to avoid flaming its easy, dont start it and it wont happen. This thread as ive stated for the 4th time now is aimed at those who were present at both raids, whom got trained for a few hours and to remind them to petition because everyone is talking about how we're all fed up of this. I have absolutely nothing to say to you nor to anyone else whom is part of the group that is making epith miserable for most players. I keep getting pmed something needs to be done by all and this is the solution i am offerring THEM, not YOU. You were not a victim of this event hence u have no business here, same as CC. Tyvm, have a nice day/evening.

[behhinu]

- Reporting this to a CL -

I will report this thread since Kiljya69 mentioned a guild name which is not right making a bad mark on a famous and strong guild.

[The-Great-Paladin]

Oh rly? Why is it a minimum of 3 Legendary members alt guilds hit war on other guilds inside the raid this morning? As i stated, you were not there, this matter DOES NOT CONCERN YOU, and unless you know ALL the facts, all you are doing here is making yourself look a bit dense...because all your statements are rather easy to prove false at this instant, of course yet again due to the fact that you were not there.
Now stop finding drama, kindly let this thread remain to being about filling a report vrs said person whom proceeded to pull mobs and ruin 5 hours of raiding attempt, ty.
Your opinions over what happenned when there were so many witnesses, when you do not know what happenned to begin with, are nor wanted, nor appreciated.
And hats off to whomever did war Leg during raid serves them right for doing it this morning.
Don't come and try and blame us, we are all inactive in fiesta, we've pretty much moved onto another game, and only ever log on for the raids. Because whether you care to admit it or not the raids are fast and easy when its a group effort. And we've always been there to fully support the raids. It's over, now it'll just cost all even more $$ to get drops instead of sharing the costs.

Rofl Quoted for blacklisting D:

Nice killing you're own thread, yup its nice when its a group effort to bad some jealous people war over rewards don't help out during raids and chainwar the guilds involved... if i could stop it i would, but its not within anyones power in Legendary to.. since we cannot controls members of compeletely seperate guilds which have never and will never link to our own accounts in anyway shape, form or meaning of the word, since it is not us, Legendary is a guild built between members on trust and a helpful attitude to point players in the right direction and assist them in reaching their full potiential providing them with an enjoyable fiesta experience.

[Corpse65]

Actually when you make accusations against a friend of mine as well as a fellow guild member i have a place here =\

[Kiljya69]

- Reporting this to a CL -

I will report this thread since Kiljya69 mentioned a guild name which is not right making a bad mark on a famous and strong guild.


ClericalCharm named it first as he is a member of it. Wake up.He also mentioned the other 'top guilds whom were there after i specifically stated it was unecessary. Remove his post, and i will gladly edit mine to remove name, ty.
It's not accusations, theres a LOT of evidence, i'm sorry. As i said posting it here=blacklisting hence the screenies will remain in the attachments to filed reports. I'm simply reminding whomever else was there.

[AParadiseLost]

This thread is way too complicated to follow.

"I will write it much simpler. . . ."



I would like to ask everyone who was there, whether you took screenies or not, to kindly file a report vrs the 'unfortunate' events that took place due to selfishness and greed, as i heard the same thing happenned at the later attempt at around 6-7pm gmt-5.
Perhaps with a high volume of complaints something will finally be done about the fact that everyone is slowly leaving fiesta/OS games over the drama and greed Helga has created.

Also, kindly refrain from blacklisting so as to keep this notice up. Ty.


Does that help?

[allh0pelost]

to those that say they didn't see any pulling/training of mobs happen, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. like i said earlier, those particular members of that particular guild settled down at one point. then i hear they started up again. it's hard to catch such things when a raid is going on and your attention is more on helga than the mobs running up to you from behind.

anyways... lets just wait til next time. we'll be prepared to catch those 2 red handed.

[behhinu]

ClericalCharm named it first as he is a member of it. Wake up.He also mentioned the other 'top guilds whom were there after i specifically stated it was unecessary. Remove his post, and i will gladly edit mine to remove name, ty.
It's not accusations, theres a LOT of evidence, i'm sorry. As i said posting it here=blacklisting hence the screenies will remain in the attachments to filed reports. I'm simply reminding whomever else was there.



As I have heard you file too many reports about people, I don't know why Outspark doesn't ignore you 0_o

If they really ban everyone you report then in-game all is left is you.

[Kiljya69]

Stop wasting your time here, sorc. You cant defend the proof.
Funny, i never got banned...guess i nvr did anything to merit an ss ~.~
Darn it and me who just loves having my picture taken T.T. wheres the love :(

[YoshimaruOrona]

Lmao, I hereby dub this thread a fail.

How did you go from gathering help to report the "trainer" to fighting each other over guild customs and such (and fighting over blacklisting, wth)?

Way to stay on topic all =D

[The-Great-Paladin]

ClericalCharm named it first as he is a member of it. Wake up.He also mentioned the other 'top guilds whom were there after i specifically stated it was unecessary. Remove his post, and i will gladly edit mine to remove name, ty.
It's not accusations, theres a LOT of evidence, i'm sorry. As i said posting it here=blacklisting hence the screenies will remain in the attachments to filed reports. I'm simply reminding whomever else was there.

You cannot blacklist yourself, would you like me to repeat it...?

The term blacklisting is generally used in a negative context, since it implies that someone has been prevented from having legitimate access to something due to the whims or judgments of another.

[behhinu]

I would like to point out something, that I am not wasting my time, I am very active on forums and I read and reply to many thread so for me this is not a waste of time.

[Kiljya69]

You cannot blacklist yourself, would you like me to repeat it...?

The term blacklisting is generally used in a negative context, since it implies that someone has been prevented from having legitimate access to something due to the whims or judgments of another.


Dude, stop skimming if youre going to post replies lol....that was a reply to someone else, hence you should be saying it to him, no need to quote me...didnt you say you were going to bed like 30 mins ago?





I'm not wasting my time replying the said people whom were the ones doing said actions as of this second forward, if you cant take the heat that youre getting beat down for what you did, you should have thought before doing. Nites.

[behhinu]

Kiljya69 blacklisting? :)

-reports-

It was obvious that reply was for me.

[Celtic_Princess]

[Closed]

Frustration at what went on I can get, being angry at wasting your sc I can get, telling users to 'get out of your thread' simply because they were not there I cannot understand. By posting in an open forum, you open your thread up to anyone and everyone who is interested in posting...whether or not they were directly involved with the situation.

Since this thread has become nothing but arguments back and forth, I'm going to close it. However, I do recommend that any user who does have SS's or videos of the incident at hand submit a ticket.

Outspark does not, and will not, favor SC users. If you said they banned this person once, they obviously took action on his/her account...which means they did something. If you report again, its possible to make sure that the user cannot come back on a new account. However, they can't do it on hearsay alone...so if you wish to prevent this person from doing this again...send in a ticket. :)

Good night, and gl in your next raid.