Legacy Weapon 'makers' my CS item desire.

[aegrimonia]

I had a long description typed.. but my cat stepped on the perfect key combination to close my browser..

so here's the short version..

I'd like a CS item to make legacy weapons.. ones that you can hit with a scroll or a powder or whatever and make the weapon un-upgradable.. one that will stay how it is.. it won't break.. and thus will stick around until someone NPC's it.

I gave my lvl 20 hammer away, and I'd personally like who recieved it to pass it to someone else too and continue it..

That just appeals to me for some reason :)

[villium]

wow i didnt understand a word of that

[aegrimonia]

I think you have to first know what Legacy means..

If you know what it means, the post makes sense..

If you don't know? i guess it wouldn't.

[villium]

no clue
thanx for making me feel very stupid
lol

[Syrlith]

He means that he wants to be able to pass on enhanced weaponry while keeping the original enhancer's name. I think it's a lovely concept, personally! I passed on a weapon that someone gave to me, and I hope its still changing hands.

[villium]

w/e i dont see the point of everyone seeing your name but that is just me

[Syrlith]

Its a bonding thing. You could come to the forums and say, "I used IBex's mace! Who else?" spawining a lovely conversation based on an act of kindness within a class.

[villium]

lol like anyone would say that and not get rediculed by some low dirty POS gamer who thinks they are BA?

[soysauce2rice]

It'll make you feel good from going to +0 all the way to +7 or higher. I'd enjoy that too.

[villium]

what does that have to do with your name everywhere?

[Syrlith]

what does that have to do with your name everywhere?

You're missing the point. Its an arcytipal concept to inherit a gift of power from a long line of previous weilders.
Like all sorts of literary items. Kingships, swords, names, armor, ideals...
Well, I'll put it this way. Its like the Master Sword from Zelda. Weilded by many heroes, (not just the many Links) the blade carries a name and a history. The Master Sword is never the most powerful sword in the game, but its the special sword that is in every tale.
If someone were to enhance a level 16 sword, (Which would then bear the mark of the first enhancer) and pass it on, it would be a special object. The enhancer's name is just a way to mark it. Give us another way to mark it, wether a symbol or random word, that'd work, too!
Someone's name is the current form of marking an enhanced weapon, so we'd hope that it would be elaborated on.

[Gravvi]

wait u can label ur weapons with your name. Anyway i understand how u feel. If someone recieves my +7 lvl 20 hammer keep it going to someone who would put it to good use. Not someone who will use it for evil and or don't give it to jerks.

[Kirbycode]

It's good to know that some people take pride in their weaponry and wish to pass it along like a lineage. Heehee. =)

PS: If that item is ever put into the game, there should be rigorous requirements so that every single person won't have an unupgradable Lv8 35%Ratman35%Boar weapon with their name on it. Maybe conditions like... it has to have 3 completed licenses(for sure)... it must be shining (Lv3+)... and you need to do a big quest that you would not want to ever do (or do again) unless you have that much fervor for your most prized possession.

[soysauce2rice]

I take pride in my weapons i suppose, but when i have a spare, i take the risk of enhancing again (usually +5 to +7) and then it'll break but oh well.

[aegrimonia]

I take pride in my weapons i suppose, but when i have a spare, i take the risk of enhancing again (usually +5 to +7) and then it'll break but oh well.

That's why i'd want a legacy weapon powder or scroll or SOMETHING that would make it so it couldn't be upgraded (and thus broken).

[scottymcscottyson]

great concept i like it

[ToorimaKun]

OK easy vertion:

IF some one has a GREAT wepon or armer
passing it on or selling to another player is a lot smarter then selling it to a shop.

1: you make more money if you sell to player
2:it would make grinding and quests easyer if every one had enhanced stuff

[villium]

i think i get it now

[aegrimonia]

OK easy vertion:

IF some one has a GREAT wepon or armer
passing it on or selling to another player is a lot smarter then selling it to a shop.

1: you make more money if you sell to player
2:it would make grinding and quests easyer if every one had enhanced stuff

But this isn't about the money.. this is about heritage.

[Kirbycode]

*bumps the topic back to the top*

Is there anyone who DOESN'T like this idea? Heck, even make up reasons why you don't like it! I want to see people at least talk about this idea so they can consider it.

Here's what we've got so far:

1) (Most people) There should be a way to make the weapon no longer upgradable so it is assured to stay in the game unless someone sells it to an NPC. This idea is cool because it creates a sense of "putting your mark" on this game. A sense of heritage, legacy, or lineage.

3) (Syrlith) Maybe there should be more than one way to title an item instead of your name. Maybe carvings or runes on the weapon.

4) (Myself) If this were to be implimented, there should be rigorous requirements to make this "epic" weapon of sorts. (3 completed licenses, at least 3+, painfully hard and degrading quest you don't want to do) That way, it would be living proof that the person was truly devoted to this item and it's not just some piece of junk they wanted to sell.


So, any takers on showing the flaws of this? The finer points? Anything! This idea is good, and I'll stand by it til it's in!

[Gavener]

, i see the point of passing on stuff over vender, i hit the dreaded Lv 20 with 7s to my name a lot of bad confusing money problems along the way, anyways i looked at a few shops and seen th L20 chest for 2s not the 4s in shop!!!, i was super happy and i took the Mace from the L20 quest, sense knowone ever does, then later bought a +3 hammer from a guy for 3s with some random license of vivi ice or something on it.

Great idea but its to small when there is big fixes needed but i hope they get to doing it

[Dheris]

Well .. I guess if you wanna pay that money for the risk that it gets passed down to someone that gets it and never logs on again or .. just keeps it in their storage and forgets about it. If the only reason to buy the item is to apply it to an item then give it to someone else .. well, that person must be very kind and have some extra money to spend. Personaly I wouldn't spend money on something just to give it away but .. I guess it could appeal to someone.

[Afreakinqueen]

I don't agree with the idea. You should do nice things for people just because, not to make yourself more known. If you give an item to someone, that's fine, but not everyone else needs to know. You might as well say, "Hey! I GAVE this really nice weapon to someone," or "Look at how high of an enhancement I got!" Plus, when you give something to someone, it should be theirs to do with it what they want.

[Kirbycode]

To Dheris - I agree that scenario is completely possible; that you don't want to sell this item to the NPC, nor want to spend the time trying to merchant it. But people take that chance. Also, you don't do it to give it away. You do it thinking to yourself, "*insert serious roleplaying here* This weapon has been my trusted companion these months of grinding, questing, and all other sorts of crazy things, but I know one day I won't need it and will sell it or give it to a friend. I want to leave a mark on this world through my sword... to represent everything that I've done, and in hopes that someone may find as much use in this weapon as I had."

To Afreakinqueen - I agree with all that you say. However, there are two main problems with it. Firstly, my vision of this system is that there would be a rigorously painful quest you need to accomplish in order to get this unupgrade scroll (that cannot be traded/sold). In other words, if a person wants to make themselves more known by making these "legacy" weapons, they will need medical attention by the time they're done. If they just wanted to make themselves more known, they can spam-shout or just use 350 gold to put a single license on a weapon. Why take several days of playing time when you have alternatives you can do in 1-2 minutes? Secondly, you can brag about your enhancement level regardless if this scroll exists. Arrogant people are arrogant; it doesn't have to do with this.

Finally, I thought I'd mention this: at the moment, making your weapon unupgradable LOWERS the value of the weapon! You don't get bonuses for making it unupgradable, so you're in effect lowering its potential value (no more enhancements). You don't make this "legacy" weapon to get rich; if you wanted to get rich, you sell the weapon WITHOUT stunting its enhancements with a scroll! Therefore, the only reason you'd ever use this cursed unupgradable scroll is to have a "permanent" mark in the game. Not to brag about how great it is (you made it weaker), or how expensive it is (you made it cost less), or how hardcore you are at making it (you deprived yourself of sleep), but to have an item that will exist after you leave. That's all.

To Gavener - Yeah, it's a small suggestion compared to all the other problems. But it's still something I hope they look at. =)


Keep up the comments!

[villium]

I don't agree with the idea. You should do nice things for people just because, not to make yourself more known. If you give an item to someone, that's fine, but not everyone else needs to know. You might as well say, "Hey! I GAVE this really nice weapon to someone," or "Look at how high of an enhancement I got!" Plus, when you give something to someone, it should be theirs to do with it what they want.
umm sooo....

[ToorimaKun]

I don't agree with the idea. You should do nice things for people just because, not to make yourself more known. If you give an item to someone, that's fine, but not everyone else needs to know. You might as well say, "Hey! I GAVE this really nice weapon to someone," or "Look at how high of an enhancement I got!" Plus, when you give something to someone, it should be theirs to do with it what they want.

the idea is to KEEP hard to find wepons in the game.... most people just sell them to NPCs and then that wepon/armer is gone.

IF people would do this then they would be a lot of GREAT weponds/armer around for people to get.

**im looking for levl 50-59 armer with good dex,end and str stats.
(i don't have much money though... currently only 50s)

[aegrimonia]

the idea is to KEEP hard to find wepons in the game.... most people just sell them to NPCs and then that wepon/armer is gone.

IF people would do this then they would be a lot of GREAT weponds/armer around for people to get.

**im looking for levl 50-59 armer with good dex,end and str stats.
(i don't have much money though... currently only 50s)


or more importantly to keep people from breaking their new-found gift because they don't understand the true value of it.

tag it as legacy and it will live on.

[villium]

then never sell me a great wpn b/c i will find a way to try to improve it and end up breaking it :D