Disciple Aoe-ing in Mines

[numb_1986]

At 66, let's say a disc wanna aoe at mines. With like +1/4ap ful set and full buff (no bless just solo), would he have enough def to aoe at mines lvl 1 and 2? sry just asking cos i wanna make my alt as disc (wanna prepare him with equipments) to get the darn ssf for pet quests (incubator FTW)

[AnimePimp66]

some mobs will run from u at lv 66 on lv 1 but yea its doable prolly will need more than +1 4ap but i dunno i dont nko how it is with bell and cape now might b easyer.although i kno this disc get mob lock so easy and there is a crap load of mobs in there i suggest finding a mage or another aoer to share dmges so u can move to use yer aoe.

[tazsbigtoy]

You need 2+161 for level one and 2+168 for level 2. I think with +1 ap4 gear and +1 ap2 shield you will only have 2+138. I am not 100% sure on that. I am at work and going by a gear list on here and add the +1 and ap4. Your buff would be 7 I think putting you at 2+145. I think it will probably going to +3 would let you solo the first level with ap4 gear only. If, of course, you have a love cloak, then you are fine. Add a green bell or healer and level 2 is yours too. Disciples get moblocked and skill interupted easy so it can be frustrating. Also the mobs have relatively high hp and chainblock is a bit slow on killing. You might consider duoing with another aoer. I know an app that waits in the level 2 safezone. She has enough defense with bell and cape to tank, but she has two other tanks. They are tracked outside north and south safezones. They pull mobs to the level 2 safezone and the three kill together. Lightning makes it a such a quick kill.

[Ayanami]

Yea, like other people have said, +1/4ap gears probably aren't enough to aoe the mines unless you have bell/cape/healer. And at lvl 66, about half the lvl 1 mobs will run from you.

And I gotta say, aoeing the mines with a disciple kinda sucks. You get mob-locked a lot. Might want to look into making a reflection squire or a rogue instead. The reflection squire is really the best route, the problem is you need good trial gear, which is expensive. The upside is they can aoe at around lvl 57 (I guess as soon as 51 if you have some super uber sky gears) all the way up to 61 or 62 (the drops aren't as good after that). And the drops at those lvls are really good. I can collect my 50 ssfs in several hours with my squire.

I've found to make the disciple worth taking to the mines, you gotta take him down to lvl 2 for polluted souls, and visit lvl 3 occasionally to farm red bloods. Lvl 1 really isn't worth it, and it really annoys non-aoers, as the mobs that run from you can sometimes overwhelm them.

[numb_1986]

thanks for reply. yeah i noticed the mob run off at 66 (nearly half the mobs in lvl 1). actually i was thinking to make another alt (either disc or rogue) to farm for stuff at lvl 1-2-3 but yeah making another neo from scratch is like..erm XD however my disc is like half way thru since he is 46 now. if i have to compare both of them, i would 100% go for rogue since i love their dodge + crit and the best part, i can 'recycle' my current rogue eq for him XD

so accotrding to tazsbigtoy said, it seems that i would need more than just +1/4ap to aoe 2nd map and 3rd map. hmm icic..thought so thou cos if not every1 can just buy 4aps and go aoe-ing! XD i been pt-ing once awhile with disc with chain block and it sux especially when u get mob locked. u need to move soooo much and cant lure alot of mob. at least for my rogue, i could lure more than i could take due to dodge.

thanks for all the answers guys! greatly appreciated!

*by the way, does the boss in lvl 3 straight respawn after killed or is there some sort of cooldown?

[tazsbigtoy]

There is a cool down. I think it is 30 minutes.

[numb_1986]

oic..is this me only? the boss which does the Death Blades skill drop rdb but the boss who doesnt do the skill, wont drop rdb..mayb just luck lolz..

1 more question, for a disc, how many will actually caused mob lock? 15? my rogue aoe 30-40 mobs in lvl 3 and got major skill lock..lmao (nearly suicide with just 2 hp pots left) >.> <-- it was a crazy trial run thou XD

[tazsbigtoy]

Don't know of an exact number, I was taking about 1/3 of level 1 okay, but of course a big chunk of them ran off once I started killing them. The mob that uses the fire attack doesn't drop rdb just the one that does death blades. He doesn't always drop although the lower your level the more likely he will. He usually drops 2 but has only dropped 1 for me also. If you have rdb in your inventory, you aren't likely to get a drop. So you pretty much either need to have someone down there with you to pass it to, or plan on going back to your hotel, storing it and going back down.