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raikoken
10-11-2007, 07:40 PM
any rogues out there think there should be more to this class? we have to relie on scare all the time

puppetkid
10-11-2007, 09:27 PM
I say dodge and crit. ESP. DODGE

Alagond
10-11-2007, 10:00 PM
Or more atk speed. Rouges are about hitting fast with a few crits here and there. I get .7 atk speed at lvl 33 with Doping, and with my atk damage, that's pathetic =/. Another note, Rouges shouldn't have a sta req for the class; Men would be A LOT more useful.

FirestormReborn
10-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Or more atk speed. Rouges are about hitting fast with a few crits here and there. I get .7 atk speed at lvl 33 with Doping, and with my atk damage, that's pathetic =/. Another note, Rouges shouldn't have a sta req for the class; Men would be A LOT more useful.

.7 at 33 is pathetic? Do you realize theres 200+ level's in this game?

obviously .1 is the lowest you can go, so at what point are you satisfied? When you get .1 at level 16?

Get real.

jmoua9
10-11-2007, 11:20 PM
right now my atk spd is about .4 and im attacking pretty darn fast imo.

I dont know about you guys, but im dodge really well.

Also my crit is really nice, i crit quite frequently :D

Though we do lack attacking skills, the skills we do recieve are pretty fancy, so im satisfied :D

Cadexn
10-12-2007, 02:41 AM
i'm pretty sure they gonna nerf the attack speed rate. getting a .4 within lv 50 while having max lv of 200 is too much.

Alagond
10-12-2007, 06:41 AM
Just think about it. Lvl 33 with .7 attack speed. That's 10 attacks in 7 seconds. Most mobs at that level have in the thousands of hp. I'm dealing about 50 damage per attack on mobs of "equal" level. Does that sound impressive to you?

puppetkid
10-12-2007, 07:40 AM
I think rogue class are an underpowered and the GM must do something to improve it.

rckeintaro
10-12-2007, 11:55 AM
You all complain when you are all low levels. As the higher level you go the stronger you get. lvl 30+ compairs nothing to a power of 200+. As of right now you may think its weak, but it really depends on your equips playing style and what types of monster you are fighting. Of course you if you fight red name monsters they are stronger and you will see less damage. You complain about crit and dodge at such a low level? As you raise in higher level it increases more and more. It takes time and dedication to be a rouge and sure it eats money and time. If you don't like it, might as well be a fighter or mage if you want to see damage.

Otherwise just wait and you will see a overpower outcome of the class rouge. They start weak, but later on they are strong. Just keep at it and you will reach their soon. :) The only thing that you should be complaing about rouge currently is that you can't learn accuracy level one to increase that crit rate ^.~

hippychibi
10-12-2007, 12:23 PM
Sorry to interject but...
When the low level rogue's attack speed is down at a .7, like Alagond, it's by use of a skill. We rogues don't just have a .7 all the time. I am only level 28 right now so I don't have Doping (but i want it) so my attack speed is at 1.2 always. If a fighter were it add a few points into Aglity they would have the same attack speed as me. Plus don't forget that when you pick up gear, as players tend to do, you start losing points when you're carring to much. A rogue with few skills in Pow can't carry nearly as much and lose attack speed much faster. A friend dropped from a 1.2 to a 2.0, possibly more but I don't want to exagerate.
Rogues do need a little tweaking upwards because our equipment doesn't protect like a fighters nor do we have to HP they do but we still try and do the same job as front liners.
I would like dodge increased the most but each one could use a few tweaks upwards.

rckeintaro
10-12-2007, 12:29 PM
You must not heard of a backpack :D it comes from a red luckball gives you +500 weight if your worried about weight problems ^.~

Daft_Brat
10-12-2007, 12:31 PM
where's the all of the above option? lol. The main problem is figuring out where to buff the points. I end up putting most of mine in agility. Spamming scare is apparently the only way to go for now and not get killed constantly. -.- Fix accuracy before anything else I saw, I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt jipped at level 26.
...not complaining really...love the game. ^^

~Daft :cool:

hippychibi
10-12-2007, 12:35 PM
The problem with the Lucky Ball thought... you have to have a Lucky Ball and get a backpack. I am talking point for point.
But I didn't know about the backpack weight.

rckeintaro
10-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Then dont ever go over 50-60% when you know your at that limit, repot and sell all that junk and go back. No need to carry everything with you!

Also point for point. If you know rouges every level up you get an additional 5 weight and every point to Str = 30 weight.

A quick Tracker + warp doesn't hurt :]

hippychibi
10-12-2007, 01:02 PM
I do know the Strength points, that's why I have a bunch in there.
A friend didn't and was having troubles.
obviously once you learn limits you can work around them, but I believe it would be just a little better off tweaked. I'm not saying GODLY like in some games, just alittle bit.

rckeintaro
10-12-2007, 01:09 PM
oh yeah i forgot to mention that fighters once they go over weight they are slow! As for Rouges we dont go slow once you have Doping! Even when your overweight your attack speed is still great, but your move speed as usual like everyone else is slow.

Alagond
10-12-2007, 01:50 PM
Wrong :P. I've gone overweight with Doping several times and it's not pleasant. Not to mention that Doping only lasts 1 minute.

As for crits, We can't really form an opinion on that right now. Sure they are low, but we can't use Accuracy yet. Who knows? Maybe this skill will give us some huge advantage.

At lvl 33, my dodge is 17+10 with doping, so I find that dodge isn't that bad.

More skills is a bad idea. We have a bad mana supply as it is. I've noticed that a lot of higher level skills seem to be improved low lvl ones *dust storm or wahtever it's called seems to do the same thing as Blind Sight.* If we get any more skills, especially 1 minute buffs, we'll have no mana to do anything =/. *Pot spammer ftw!!!*

TalonArkz
10-12-2007, 09:21 PM
hey, i started today, and i was wondering what the stat requirements for changing into rogue are ahead of time, can anyone help me out with this tid bit of info? i scrolled to older threads and found nothing.

hippychibi
10-13-2007, 12:42 PM
Just make your character as you need to level to get to level 16. The class changer NPC will allow you to reset your skill points before you can change over and tell you what you need.

Smoky82
10-13-2007, 04:40 PM
i think rogue's should have a steal skill like set at a 5% chance of steal at lv1 7% at lv 2 and 10% at master

Alagond
10-13-2007, 05:58 PM
That's not a half bad idea. This might take away the complete necesity of spamming Scare to hurt the mobs.

DragonMan949
10-13-2007, 09:47 PM
Do Rogues get AOE or ranged weps? And no I don`t mean as a ranger. Like a felon or something.

hippychibi
10-14-2007, 12:37 PM
I believe if you look in Sakaru's Rogue Guide, the Felon has an AOE attack while the archer used a bow most, if not all, of the time.

rckeintaro
10-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Wrong :P. I've gone overweight with Doping several times and it's not pleasant. Not to mention that Doping only lasts 1 minute.

As for crits, We can't really form an opinion on that right now. Sure they are low, but we can't use Accuracy yet. Who knows? Maybe this skill will give us some huge advantage.

At lvl 33, my dodge is 17+10 with doping, so I find that dodge isn't that bad.

More skills is a bad idea. We have a bad mana supply as it is. I've noticed that a lot of higher level skills seem to be improved low lvl ones *dust storm or wahtever it's called seems to do the same thing as Blind Sight.* If we get any more skills, especially 1 minute buffs, we'll have no mana to do anything =/. *Pot spammer ftw!!!*

LoL how am i wrong? With doping i get 1 second attack speed compared too 2.8 seconds when im full on weight you must be crazy. Cause certainly no other class can do that then a Rouge!

Lorgos
10-16-2007, 03:11 PM
if anything they need more dodge . AD&D Rogues are only allowed lighter armor because they need to be stealthier and more agile . This concept should ring true for SoS as well.

My idea is this , when you pick your class you get what would be a class bonus this bonus would be +2 to your main stat and +1 to your secondary stats without armor. you should also get a skill that compliments your classes atributes so for a rogue it might be swiftness giving a +X% to dodge for X seconds where as fighter it might be Weapon mastery giving you +X% to critical for X seconds

hippychibi
10-16-2007, 03:50 PM
Now we bring in the DnD rules. -gets out bag of die-
^_^

hazeofacid
10-16-2007, 04:50 PM
Rogues pwn, end of story. There is no "Underpowered" to rogues, none what so ever. Perhaps everyone complaining just suck? If you want pure overpoweredness, with no skill, make a Magician, and leave Rogues alone. I for one, am VERY happy with rogues, at first I was on the band wagon, but even playing one to 26, Rogue has turned into my favorite class. Felon will be that much more intense. When OB comes around, Accuracy will be fixed too, and the OMG. It will be on! Everyone eventually when PVP gets up and running, and maybe even before, will be spamming "Nerf rogues pl0x" threads. Just remember.....you heard it from me first ^.^.

rckeintaro
10-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Rogues pwn, end of story. There is no "Underpowered" to rogues, none what so ever. Perhaps everyone complaining just suck? If you want pure overpoweredness, with no skill, make a Magician, and leave Rogues alone. I for one, am VERY happy with rogues, at first I was on the band wagon, but even playing one to 26, Rogue has turned into my favorite class. Felon will be that much more intense. When OB comes around, Accuracy will be fixed too, and the OMG. It will be on! Everyone eventually when PVP gets up and running, and maybe even before, will be spamming "Nerf rogues pl0x" threads. Just remember.....you heard it from me first ^.^.

There you heard it :D
Now as everyone is thinking... Imma steal Baka ne away from hakura! bwhahah! o.o (JK :p) *See's Hakura running this way screaming* Good thing Rouge can.... VANISH! *poof*

Mazgrim
10-16-2007, 06:26 PM
I haven't been able to play yet but the rogue will be my first class since I'm more of an agility type of person. Judging from what I've been seeing here, and in other parts of the forum, I would say that the dodging rate will be a good thing to increase. Of course, thats just my opinion out of what, hundreds?

Faultless
10-16-2007, 06:46 PM
ROGUES = CHANCE TO HIT
CHANCE TO CRIT
CHANCE TO DODGE


Rogue's are a tricky class... they deal lots of damage but are not tanks. Their damage output has generally been from consistancy. Sooooo they should be able to hit often and hit fast. But they also have roll as being sneaky... this includes such things as traps, combat control(making targets incapacitated in various ways.)

They should also have a level of survivablity that should be based on things OTHER than thier stamina.

They should also get owned by fighter/warrior type classes... but scare the **** out of casters.:cool:

hackrukia
10-20-2007, 11:29 AM
So rouges have alot of problems

hippychibi
10-20-2007, 02:12 PM
No, actually rogues have no problems. Most of us just want it to be better because we like it so much. Join the rogue guild, it's the only job to have. ^_^

hazeofacid
10-21-2007, 11:57 AM
The problem count that Rogues have right now, is only 1. Accuracy isn't in yet, but thats a very small problem, if you ask me. Once OB rolls around, and Accuracy is fixed, everyone who is drinking hatorade on Rogues, will make rogues themeselves. Stupid hipocrites :D. Anyway.....yeah, Rogues are just fine, with no problems :)

jmoua9
10-27-2007, 03:58 PM
The problem count that Rogues have right now, is only 1. Accuracy isn't in yet, but thats a very small problem, if you ask me. Once OB rolls around, and Accuracy is fixed, everyone who is drinking hatorade on Rogues, will make rogues themeselves. Stupid hipocrites :D. Anyway.....yeah, Rogues are just fine, with no problems :)

um lahv...accuracy IS fixed as of right now...

sasuke8
10-29-2007, 02:39 AM
i'm lvl 24 atm, i guess when you start hitting the 30's and 40's the rogues start to shine.

Atm mages seem to have an egde along with fighters in the beginning IMO.

Gauro
10-29-2007, 03:59 AM
as a rouge what should i train on?

Freidrich
10-29-2007, 05:45 AM
Hey, any highlevelrogues willing to answer my question?

I really feel bound to my MP, at least where I am now (level 22). Should I place some five points in WIS to get those few MP? ^_^
I know, I should try it and reset stats if it sucks, but since you guys most surely KNOW...

Oh, btw, is the Attack I get from AGI enough or should I put some POW-points (rofl)?

Serric
10-31-2007, 09:28 AM
You know - an escape skill would be nice when you're in battle and need to run. Also, call me silly, but I'd love to be able to steal from a player/shopkeep/critter. :3

sasuke8
10-31-2007, 04:11 PM
Hey, any highlevelrogues willing to answer my question?

I really feel bound to my MP, at least where I am now (level 22). Should I place some five points in WIS to get those few MP? ^_^
I know, I should try it and reset stats if it sucks, but since you guys most surely KNOW...

Oh, btw, is the Attack I get from AGI enough or should I put some POW-points (rofl)?

about ure MP, just buy MP pots, theres no real need to put stats on WIS, save it for agi.

I'm pure agi, but remember u can tweak your stats around as u can reset your stats at any time [i think] for the time being.

I'm lvl 32 and after u get doping / new weapon at lvl 32, rogues really begin to shine IMO.

Emina04sakura
10-31-2007, 10:26 PM
You know - an escape skill would be nice when you're in battle and need to run. Also, call me silly, but I'd love to be able to steal from a player/shopkeep/critter. :3


There is a skill for stealing in a rouge class
how??

umm..Im a Rouge at lvl 18

jmoua9
10-31-2007, 10:59 PM
You know - an escape skill would be nice when you're in battle and need to run. Also, call me silly, but I'd love to be able to steal from a player/shopkeep/critter. :3

at 51 (ya i know XD) u get a skill called gogogo (i call it...NINJA!) which basically you teleport(though the book says its not a teleport, i say it is) in a random direction/range. This my friend, is your "need to run" move, just use it, and walk away XD (15second cooldown so u cant spam it).

SenkoJi
11-01-2007, 05:40 AM
Wow some people dont understand Rogue class very well...

First off Rogues are afraid of mages not warriors since rogues can dodge melee Warriors cant hit them but since its magic they just get bolted into the ground not being able to dodge it...

I got a lvl 38 Rogue right now and I have .7 Attack speed yeah I wish it was lower but then I also understand that once I hit higher levels its going to reach .1 Cooldown so im calm. but Is the time between when you can cast your skill based on your attack speed? like with Scare? If I have .1 attack speed can i cast it that fast after it charges? Cause if not then rogues having .1 attack speed wouldnt be so bad since your skills tend to hit 3x As much damage as your melee. my thoughts is just wait to see what its like as a Shadow :P

Serric
11-01-2007, 08:12 AM
at 51 (ya i know XD) u get a skill called gogogo (i call it...NINJA!) which basically you teleport(though the book says its not a teleport, i say it is) in a random direction/range. This my friend, is your "need to run" move, just use it, and walk away XD (15second cooldown so u cant spam it).

51?! Bleah!

OK, that sounds cool... but I'd still like to steal goods from ppl, etc. ;)

sasuke8
11-02-2007, 03:35 PM
Wow some people dont understand Rogue class very well...

First off Rogues are afraid of mages not warriors since rogues can dodge melee Warriors cant hit them but since its magic they just get bolted into the ground not being able to dodge it...

I got a lvl 38 Rogue right now and I have .7 Attack speed yeah I wish it was lower but then I also understand that once I hit higher levels its going to reach .1 Cooldown so im calm. but Is the time between when you can cast your skill based on your attack speed? like with Scare? If I have .1 attack speed can i cast it that fast after it charges? Cause if not then rogues having .1 attack speed wouldnt be so bad since your skills tend to hit 3x As much damage as your melee. my thoughts is just wait to see what its like as a Shadow :P

ure attack speed is .7? i'm guessing thats WITH doping right? lol

jmoua9
11-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Wow some people dont understand Rogue class very well...

First off Rogues are afraid of mages not warriors since rogues can dodge melee Warriors cant hit them but since its magic they just get bolted into the ground not being able to dodge it...

I got a lvl 38 Rogue right now and I have .7 Attack speed yeah I wish it was lower but then I also understand that once I hit higher levels its going to reach .1 Cooldown so im calm. but Is the time between when you can cast your skill based on your attack speed? like with Scare? If I have .1 attack speed can i cast it that fast after it charges? Cause if not then rogues having .1 attack speed wouldnt be so bad since your skills tend to hit 3x As much damage as your melee. my thoughts is just wait to see what its like as a Shadow :P


Ah, in my pvp experiences, warriors/mages are not much to handle. I 1on1 with both mercenary and Aerka, both has yet to beat me.

The only other class i have problems in pvp-ing are predictors. Their time shield is a btch.

Archers will be hard until rogue's have devil's voice, with that, archers aren't too hard to deal with.

On another note, .03atk spd here, and .02 with the gm buff (with doping of course).

sasuke8
11-03-2007, 05:35 AM
wow... .03 + .02 =P ~ very very nice ~

what lvl are you now may i ask?

jmoua9
11-03-2007, 10:59 AM
wow... .03 + .02 =P ~ very very nice ~

what lvl are you now may i ask?

i still keep my lvl a secret...so i'll say 66+ for now ;P

Though i have almost given up on lvling i get as much exp as my atk spd per mob...but i still continue to exp, but VERY slowly...XD

sasuke8
11-03-2007, 11:19 AM
i still keep my lvl a secret...so i'll say 66+ for now ;P

Though i have almost given up on lvling i get as much exp as my atk spd per mob...but i still continue to exp, but VERY slowly...XD


oh... by any chance are u a felon now? or has it not been implemented yet in closed beta?

pm me if you don't want to say things in public ;)

thanks ~

jmoua9
11-03-2007, 09:00 PM
oh... by any chance are u a felon now? or has it not been implemented yet in closed beta?

pm me if you don't want to say things in public ;)

thanks ~

sadly the quest items needed to change class aren't in yet...so im still a rogue T.T (thus the reason im exping very slowly).

Serric
11-07-2007, 09:45 AM
Nice posts, all! Question - can we get a little advice here on stats? At my level, I want to make sure I have optimum stats for HP, defence, strength, agility and MP - although MP pots are doing me fine by the case! LOL

Any lvl 30-36 rogues out there want to share their stats?

TKDK13
11-12-2007, 01:31 AM
I must agree. A real game like this takes the time & repeaditive effort
to get any where. Diehard gamers with experience know this.
Keep up the good work. I am sure any additions to the game will be
awesome.
Not to sound like a kiss **** I can say that due to the Art and
background of the Rogue I could enjoy more evasive skills. I believe
the puppetkid is right. (Yes) to dodging.
Thank you for your time.

Zeltar
11-12-2007, 03:45 AM
I decided to give it a go at rogue to see what all the hype is about before end of OB.

After reading the forums and thinking a bit I decided to go 100% AGI. Sure, I was dodging a bit (making for efficient tanking). But when fighting monsters of twice my level (I was LVL20, going into Ashton basin, and way north of Essene), I ended out only doing 1-2 damage, and 15-30 when spamming scare. This made the rogue pretty useless for anything else but cannon fodder (lucky I’m fast with the potions).

It doesn’t matter how fast you strike, it doesn’t make a difference when you are only doing 1-2 damage per hit.

Luckily it is possible to change stats, so I put most of my stats into power so I can actually do some damage, (later helped with leveling to 37) has helped a lot. In the end doing much more damage.

Maybe later when getting higher levels when becoming a felon it might be more beneficial to go 100% Agi to strike really fast and have a high enough dodge rate that nobody can hit you, this requires having good enough weapons and base damage that your hits will still do something without putting too much stats into Pow.

I guess the key is damage/second. ie damage per hit/attack time. At low levels being 100% Pow will mean you can actually do some damage on the harder monsters. And at higher levels, getting attack time to 0.1s means more damage/second even if hitting low.

Well this works now when it’s possible to reset stats, but It wouldn’t be good if you couldn’t reset stats, as if you want a 100% AGI pumped felon then you’d have to go through being 100% AGI rogue which does insignificant damage against dark red monsters.

MegaTherion
11-12-2007, 03:52 AM
Well the basic Rogue stat build is max your agility stat and add enough power to hold your shield, of course you are stuck with the 4 stamina you got at job change to Rogue.

In my opinion Rogues have got the bad deal, they use agility as their defence stat which doesn't even work, well yeah the monsters do sometimes miss but they will hit you most often which is a pain, because you have low hp and you can't tank well.

And if people start to make pvp Rogues im pretty sure agility won't be used, they will probably build themselves like fighters.

Zeltar
11-12-2007, 04:04 AM
I’d like to see it get to 90% dodge at much higher level ferlon+ class. that would make up for the lack of defense and HP. the difference between 0% and 10% dodge is insignificant, but in the end coming out ahead, the difference between 80% and 90% dodge effectively doubles your defense, making it more efficient use of HP.

then a fighter might have 10 times the health points, but with only 30HP per potion, it becomes more economical to dodge hits then to have more HP.

the balance will also change if they get better health potions. as a fighter can only take potions at a certain rate, so won't last long if receiving damage at a faster rate then they can consume health potions, while a advanced felon could dodge most of the hits, so they don't need to press F1 as frantically when under heavy fire. Naturally they might still fall short when spells are used against them.

g0dL1k3
11-12-2007, 01:40 PM
I get all hits from the monsters and I get them perfectly

PKJai
11-14-2007, 07:00 PM
Wow some people dont understand Rogue class very well...

First off Rogues are afraid of mages not warriors since rogues can dodge melee Warriors cant hit them but since its magic they just get bolted into the ground not being able to dodge it...

I got a lvl 38 Rogue right now and I have .7 Attack speed yeah I wish it was lower but then I also understand that once I hit higher levels its going to reach .1 Cooldown so im calm. but Is the time between when you can cast your skill based on your attack speed? like with Scare? If I have .1 attack speed can i cast it that fast after it charges? Cause if not then rogues having .1 attack speed wouldnt be so bad since your skills tend to hit 3x As much damage as your melee. my thoughts is just wait to see what its like as a Shadow :P

Actually its you that dont understand. Rogues are not afraid of mages because though mages are long ranged, their casting time will leave enough for rogues to catchup.. theres really not much for mages to do in close range other than getting own like a mother fcker.

Serric
11-15-2007, 08:03 AM
My stats at lvl 35:

POW 12
STA 9
INT 1
AGI 24
WIS 1
MEN 4

This seems ok - have a 0.8 attk speed when doped up but wish I could do a little more damage... anyway, what are YOUR best stats? Maybe we can find the magic combination for the perfect rogue.

Zeltar
11-15-2007, 08:29 AM
i have began calculating the stat effects, and making formulas.
Please write all the details, case damage without weapons, dodge, attack speed without dope. Everything.
I tested a lot with resetting, putting it all into excell graphs.
As a surprising preliminary result i found a rogue gets the same damage increase with power points as with agi points.
This is different to the documented 2/3 damage per power and 1/2 damage for agility points (i think documented in archer thread).
This would indicate that stat points affect different classes differently
This means extra power for a rogue doesn't give any extra damage, indicating that power points only advantage carry ability at the loss of combat ability of dodge, crit iit and attack speed.

The difference from archer stat point effect has got of thinking. My guess is that every class is affected differently by the stat points they have, so agility is cuffed on the rogue, maybe int cuffed on magician. More dada or stats and affects would help confirm this research.

Serric
11-15-2007, 09:46 AM
OK - quick change of stats as a final test. Please keep in mind, I am lvl 35...

POW - 6
INT - 1
AGI - 30
MEN - 1
STA - 12
WIS - 1

HP: 430
MP: 90

ATK: 25+27
DEF: 2+68
MAGIC: 1+0
DODGE: 15.0
ATK SPD: 1.2 sec
MOVE SPD: 19+3
HIT: 85+0
CRIT: 2.0
SKILL CRIT : 7+0

Equipped:

Helmet of Ray +1
Shield of Ray +1 (min 6 pow required)
Armor of Ray +1
Dagger of Bamboo
Shoes of Ray +1
Gloves of Ray

OK - those ar emy current stats. About to try and kill red-named mobs and see how I do. I'd be interested in other rogues listing their levles, stats and equipped items in an attempt to find what stats work best per level.

Serric
11-15-2007, 12:42 PM
OK - made it lvl 36, joined in the spawn event, ended up with 16 LB items (all headgear) and a zen stone - and am ready for the wipe LOL!!!

However, I can't use my invisible skill - anyone else having trouble with that? Says I am denied to use skill

Serric
11-15-2007, 07:52 PM
OK - quick change of stats as a final test. Please keep in mind, I am lvl 35...

POW - 6
INT - 1
AGI - 30
MEN - 1
STA - 12
WIS - 1

HP: 430
MP: 90

ATK: 25+27
DEF: 2+68
MAGIC: 1+0
DODGE: 15.0
ATK SPD: 1.2 sec
MOVE SPD: 19+3
HIT: 85+0
CRIT: 2.0
SKILL CRIT : 7+0

Equipped:

Helmet of Ray +1
Shield of Ray +1 (min 6 pow required)
Armor of Ray +1
Dagger of Bamboo
Shoes of Ray +1
Gloves of Ray

OK - those are my current stats. About to try and kill red-named mobs and see how I do. I'd be interested in other rogues listing their levles, stats and equipped items in an attempt to find what stats work best per level.

NOTE: After acquiring Scare Lv2 it is a good idea to invest in WIS for MPS. Where I was attacking pretty good and using say half my MPs, I am now nearly draining it although killing the mob faster... just a word of advice.

suzukaII
11-16-2007, 12:11 AM
I use doping all the time, hope they will increase the time per cast. not really care about mana though

whatsonthatlist
11-17-2007, 08:49 PM
OK - made it lvl 36, joined in the spawn event, ended up with 16 LB items (all headgear) and a zen stone - and am ready for the wipe LOL!!!

However, I can't use my invisible skill - anyone else having trouble with that? Says I am denied to use skill

Invisible Skill Requires the "Transparent Plant".... you can buy it from the General store.

As for the "Rogue" I do not have any complaints! The more you lvl, the better your Rogue becomes. It takes time do not expect it to come overnight! But Rogue is the best I believe! And we are TANKS! :P

Steparu
11-18-2007, 05:47 PM
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1476676r3QTyxEM

To all the Rogue fans ;3

Daft_Brat
11-18-2007, 06:01 PM
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1476676r3QTyxEM

To all the Rogue fans ;3


oh...my...gawd. it's...beautiful....:D

whatsonthatlist
11-18-2007, 08:05 PM
Now that is what we are all playing for!! :D Steparu thanks for sharing that!!!
You can see where it looks like he is spamming juice ... with +500's we havent even tasted SOS yet!
Are there anymore videos like this?

Serric
11-19-2007, 06:05 AM
SCREW THAT!!!! How many HPs did that thing have???????? 0.o

whatsonthatlist
11-19-2007, 06:45 AM
SCREW THAT!!!! How many HPs did that thing have???????? 0.o

LMFAO

Have you been to the mines yet? nothing compared to! But similar.

LagopuxKnight
11-19-2007, 08:12 AM
Im Lagopux and Im a Rogue too.
For me is the best class, and thats why I will become again one when Open Beta started.
I was in 38.
Ciao

Serric
11-19-2007, 08:34 AM
LMFAO

Have you been to the mines yet? nothing compared to! But similar.

Ya, I actually missed out on the 'easy' portion of the mines, not hitting the labrynth until after lvl 31... went in there hoping to run through but discoverd I couldn't even sit and heal... bleah. That was bad enough. That minotour was just plain evil... gonna need some plvling when I get back in. :eek:

LagopuxKnight
11-19-2007, 08:47 AM
What an awesome Vid it was cool, now I wanna play, Im anxious.
lol.

Claiomh.Solais
11-19-2007, 12:40 PM
Great video, only problem is that to become a sin you need to be higher than lvl 100 as far as I know, so for the lazy ones, don’t get all excited yet ;)

Serric
11-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Great video, only problem is that to become a sin you need to be higher than lvl 100 as far as I know, so for the lazy ones, don’t get all excited yet ;)

I'll definately be looking for Plvl groups LOL

Claiomh.Solais
11-19-2007, 12:59 PM
I'll definately be looking for Plvl groups LOL

I'll be an aco, so if you need one, just call ;)

whatsonthatlist
11-26-2007, 06:59 PM
All around lvling up is good.... it is fun all the way through if you ask me... You dont have to be an sin.... although once past 40ish it gets real good.

IcyGrip
11-26-2007, 07:27 PM
just for the record i did not read all the pages in this thread...

that said, Rogues need some range attack whether its' a thrown weapon or magic or something especially at low levels. I'm not talking archer expertise here i understand that comes later. I just think they need SOMETHING to do distant attacks.

sir-link
11-28-2007, 03:25 PM
rogues are the bests LOL

mokadaissocute
11-29-2007, 02:41 PM
I think we need more skills since all we have is extreme speed and scare.

lv 20-Rouge2010

BellaAnimorum
11-29-2007, 03:57 PM
I think we need more skills since all we have is extreme speed and scare.

lv 20-Rouge2010

Why not get to lvl 50+, then try to complain about skills.