rouge is not what it seems

[sukaru1]

in the class description it says rouge has more dodge and attack speed then any other class but that is not really the case the rouge only has a little more dodge and 0.1 more attack speed then the other classes rouge has 10 dodge and 1.3 attack speed and it takes like 8 agi points to get it down to 1.2 and rouge has only 20 more hp then acolyte i think rouge should have more dodge more attack speed or he should get 1 dodge every 1 agi and 1 attack speed every 4 agi and if that dosent happens then i suggest you give rouge at least 50 more hp then acolyte other wise the class description for rouge is a lie beacuse the rouge is nothing like what the description implies i thought that when i changed to rouge i would have lower hp but i also thought id have significantly more dodge and attack speed to make up for the lack of defense and hp just like the mage has its powerful skills to make up for its lack of hp and defense and the acolyte has buffs and healing skills to make up for its lack of attack and defense

[hippychibi]

yah, i felt really let down when i didn't move much faster.
i was torn between a fighter with points in aglity and rogue with points in pow, cause i want a dodger that hits fast. granted if i time scare just right i'm hitting superfast.
i bet the rogue undergoes alot of work for the next stage of gaming, mostly because so many people are rogues.
it's really a good class skill wise, but the standard character lacks alittle bit.

[Kaleidoscope]

You're wrong.

The rouge has a ton more speed and dodge power then the other classes. You just don't notice it at level 20. Because all the stats are so small at lower levels, of course it's only gonna be a .1 difference or something like that.

My level 35 rouge dodges 3-4/5 attacks when using the doping skill. He can outrun anyone especially when using rapid step level 2, which is very effective in running away from monsters other people couldn't outrun.

Rouges take some time. I'll admit that the first 25 level or so are a real nag. I know because I was complaining about rouges during that time as well. But now my rouge is a very nice level, and I wouldn't feel the need to change anything about it's speed and dodging skills at all. :3

All the characters start out the same. It takes some time and some stat increases before their changes really become apparent.

Fer example. My level 35 character is currently level grinding in maps where ALL the monsters are BRIGHT RED. @_@; Yet I have never died once in these maps because even though they hit for 70 damage each time, very few of their hits actually go through because my rouge can dodge them all. I would like to see a level 35 fighter or mage go in there and use as few pots as I do and still make it out alive. xD

[Gompiej]

There is no problem at all at low level rogue to be honest.
I been playing 2 days now only for like 3 hours a day and im like lvl 20 or something. It is quite easy and dying not really.

As mentioned I can actually dodge kinda okayish at this level and i can sure ourun mobs if I am near death. I survive quite easily.
The dodge seems fine too, you probably putted your points wrongly to be a effective rogue then I guess.

[hippychibi]

I just think at the beginning there should be a bigger difference but if what you say about later levels is true, I may be to hold off judgement a little longer.
Maybe that's a difference in a game where everyone starts as the same class and then works apart from that as opposed to other games where you pick your class at the start and work from there.
My problem is I don't pay enough attention to run away when I'm close to death. It's such a small deal, dying, I'm usually standing in agroo fields and checking the forums.
Maybe I'll be back in a few days with a different view of my rogue. I love her as she is, maybe that's why I want to give her all the boost I can. ^_^

[sukaru1]

well i think rouge shouldnt take 8 points of agi just to raise aspd by 1 point mybe 6 but the dodge i can see is starting to get better as i get higher levels i used to only dodge 1 attack every 10 now i dodge 2-3 every 10 attacks but the aspd is still kinda crappy im lvl 22 now at level 24 ill have 1.1 aspd i wouldve liked to have 1.0 at that level so maybe rouges should start out with 0.2 more aspd instead of 0.1 and doping isnt really that great of a skill it lasts 6 seconds and only raises dodge by 10% so at level 35 you have like what 16 dodge that doping will only give you 1 more dodge and only for 6 seconds maybe rouges could start out with 12 dodge instead of 10 that way you could really notice the diffrence more beacuse i made a fighter just to see how much dodge they have and he had 10 dodge right at class change also plus rouges and fighters skills arent really that diffrent figter has a skill thrusting that attacks just as fast as scare and he also has a stun skill only the fiighter does more damage so if you made a pure agi knight and a pure agi rouge i think the fighter would stand out m,ore then the rouge unless the rouge gets a good boost in aspd and dodge and move speed when he changes to felon and so on

[DESOUL]

HA! 8 agi raise 0.1 attack speed? Thats kinda alot, at lv 40 you'd have about 45 agi wich would be 0.8 attack speed, thats alot i saw , and lv40 is still a low lv, max lv in this game as i heard is 300 or so.

[Psiblade94122]

really? i heard the max was 200, and the attackspeed shuld not be a problem, dont forget a +1 wep gives -0.1 attackspeed, which will make you attack even faster (i know some 40ish rouges that attack 2 times a seconds or so)

[Zuri-Chan]

300 Max? Wow, another Turf Battles.
I'm currently L19 Rogue, and I'm perfectly happy with the speed, agility, and dodge.
What I'd like to get is some defense.

[Gompiej]

300 Max? Wow, another Turf Battles.
I'm currently L19 Rogue, and I'm perfectly happy with the speed, agility, and dodge.
What I'd like to get is some defense.

I think the defence mostly will go up in points the better gear we loot on higher levels. I as a rogue lover I been playing rogue classes ever since MMO games excists.
I think they did a pretty good job here with this class its just a fact you have too know how too play it, some people are ment to play it others don't.

But yeah I think all of the rogue stuff is good so far just defence yeah, but its not main priority but hopefully with higher gear comes bit more defence :)

[Lylac]

in the class description it says rouge has more dodge and attack speed then any other class but that is not really the case the rouge only has a little more dodge and 0.1 more attack speed then the other classes rouge has 10 dodge and 1.3 attack speed and it takes like 8 agi points to get it down to 1.2 and rouge has only 20 more hp then acolyte i think rouge should have more dodge more attack speed or he should get 1 dodge every 1 agi and 1 attack speed every 4 agi and if that dosent happens then i suggest you give rouge at least 50 more hp then acolyte other wise the class description for rouge is a lie beacuse the rouge is nothing like what the description implies i thought that when i changed to rouge i would have lower hp but i also thought id have significantly more dodge and attack speed to make up for the lack of defense and hp just like the mage has its powerful skills to make up for its lack of hp and defense and the acolyte has buffs and healing skills to make up for its lack of attack and defense

Is there a reason that you don't use proper grammar and or punctuation?

[kimmi]

run on sentences aren't always bad.
at least in his case, it seems like an endless ranting & it actually makes a bit of sense,
not just rambling that doesn't seem to stick to each other at all~

[hippychibi]

with higher gear comes bit more defence :)
With greater gear comes greater defenceablity. ^_^
Guess we'll juust have to wait and see when we get there.

[sukaru1]

well im lvl 24 now with +4 shield of speed and it gives me +4 dodge and i have +3 reed dagger witch gives 0.3 more aspd so my current stats are 13+4 dodge and 0.9 aspd but i was wrong about 8 agi you actually need 10-12 it varies every time same with dodge doge varies from 2-5 it should probably just be set to a certain amount so people arent like i put 10 in agi no aspd raise f***** bug but i noticed you need at least 4 dodge before you see any increase of miss'ses

[Gompiej]

With greater gear comes greater defenceablity. ^_^
Guess we'll juust have to wait and see when we get there.

Yeah totally true, however I do wonder how you know if it is actually true with that.
I mean we don't really see stats on the gear at all, it is basically just higher level gear but no stats like agi with sta or str etc.
Well I mean obviously there is as seems there are only 1 type of gear for a certain level for each classes.
But I kinda would love too see details on gear makes it nicer and more interresting I would say. And maybe saying what kind of Rogue style it is.

[SevenClouds]

Are you all aware that your all spelling Rogue wrong
Rouge is a shade of red i think :rolleyes::D

[kimmi]

Are you all aware that your all spelling Rogue wrong
Rouge is a shade of red i think :rolleyes::Dit is <; i keep noticing it everytime i see the title,
but i'd have to keep my mouth shut so i won't have the urge
to comment on every single spelling mistake i see~

[hippychibi]

Wow, I never noticed. I thought you might be talking to me Seven, I had to check my sig like four times to make sure. ^_^

[Gompiej]

I never spelled Rogue wrong, think you need some classes mate rofl xD
I been saying Rogue is a rogue and it will stay being a rogue rofl xD.

Anyways still 20 rogue here anyone been over 26 or so I heard there is a bug with a rogue skill around 26 or something. Though haven't readed anything about that yet.