cerefear
03-20-2009, 09:47 AM
Yea, there were a lot of posts saying how the wednesday update was a lie or disappointment or they didn't do this and that. So before anyone else makes a post or thread saying something like that. You should read this post I made in another thread, and since I'm lazy and don't feel like repeating myself am not gonna bother writing up another long one.
The only real way you can get any change around here is get all your friends and send in at least 10 of the same ticket each. That'll get em there attention, and the more people you get to do this the better. Because if I remember correctly Fiesta is having problems and people are setting a lot there, so if you want some change here send in more tickets then them :D Show the Outspark guys the dedication we the Windslayer player base have! Or Just quit find a new game and tell me what it is if its any good ;)
EDIT: Just because I'm defending the GMs and CLs don't mean I'm not pissed too. GM rider only told us the info about update coming on wednesday on a personal level. If they were 100% about the release they woulda made some kinda announcement and posted it on the main page. Now if outspark was really lying ect... To keep us here they would post in the main page so and so are coming out Tomorrow! Instead of having one GM tell us the date and start a rumor. We don't know if it was a Lie or not when we don't have all the info.
Really Good example would be my OMG! Thread with the picture of Rider saying classes aren't coming out. I figured he was joking since someone told him to say that, but he never replied after being told that, so...
Did you think I was Mad when I made the thread or did you think I was making it as a joke? You would never know and can only view it your way unless you're the few who I've talked to on vent about the matter.
And its the same in the case that rider told us classes are coming out. He coulda been lying and making a personal joke to keep us hanging on his every word or he coulda been told by someone at work who's actually doing the programing that they'll finish with 2nd class update on Wednesday. Unless we were there to overhear their conversation we can't say he lied to us.
Don't be jumping into conclusions quickly and pulling the trigger you're just killing the messenger and after the first time Kronos said what he did have you seen him around as much? Kronos and Rider could be risking their jobs telling us when updates are released, so instead of thanking them for the inside info. We're just killing off the GMs who actually keeps us in the loop.
Its funny I always end up writing more then I intend to early in the morning.
Edit.. Again: One Last thing lol..
Don't say I've spent so and so money "supporting" the game. Unless you actually sent them money without getting anything back you're not really supporting them. Buying Items from the Cash Shop doesn't mean you support them. It only means you paid for an Item you wanted. You didn't pay them to Update the game only for that item.
Look at Games like WoW people have to pay a monthly fee and they have to buy the new expansions... at least thats what I think no idea who it works, but in the end their monthly fee is only for the upkeep of servers not for updates and these people working on games aren't your parents or friend they're just someone doing business with you. They're trying to earn money and unless they really want to make people happy with their product they don't really have to do anything you ask.
Do you sell an item in game and tell them they can return it when they are done with it? If you felt like being nice you might, but otherwise you're gonna say no and if they pester you about it you're just gonna ignore em.
Arguing with a CL about the rules set by someone else is pointless if you don't like it email Outspark about it spam em to hell with the same stuff over and over again.
Its like yelling at a cop cause you're not allowed to steal stuff when he's only there to arrest you.
Davis even said that if you over react on the forums it only make you look bad, well in her own way. Instead of getting your point across its only gonna get you banned ect. Its why I keep telling you, Hoob to not make these posts. Its pointless and only gets you in trouble.
If they aren't answering your tickets what makes you think they're gonna pay attention to the forums?
The CLs are only here to moderate/police the forums they can't do anything but write reports like all of us except their reports are more of a priority compared to ours. If you're getting up in their face about some little detail they are suppose to enforce because its a rule set by their bosses what do you think their report will be like when they write it up?
To report the guy who's abusing the bug and make them pay for it or Report the guy abusing the bug and the guy who posted it while saying ****** when you're not suppose to and arguing about it when told not to?
If you were following all the rules and at least sound like you're calm in your post then the CLs will at least think you're a respectable player and in their report they'll even put in a bit of effort in helping you like adding in all the little details ect... Otherwise they'll just say "Hey, Boss there's a bug here and this guy here is pretty mad about it you should look into it."
Well, that is what I did when I was a mod for another game/forum. Its annoying trying to write up a report helping a player when they're typing in l33t or arguing with me when I'm just trying to help. I'll still do my job and help you, but its not gonna be my best work. Who knows I've only been here for a little while and don't know every CL, but Davis doesn't seem like the type of person which I am and might still write up that 100% report helping you explain the bug.
EDIT: Haven't you noticed Kaku's first post on how the game is doing bad and it got so much attention by all the GMs and CLs without being closed? It was a well written complaint that didn't break any rules. The only thing your post is about right now is how *** can mean whatever you or he wants it to mean instead of the menti bug which is what you wanted to talk about.
CLs and GMs are basically powerless since they're all following rules too just different ones from us when they have more powers. Cops are allowed to go killing or stealing anything they want to do. They're just normal people like us, but instead of doing this for entertainment they're doing it for money. Also don't say they should listen to you because you spent money on the game. You paid for a cash shop item that did what its suppose to. You didn't pay them to release more content.
The only real way you can get any change around here is get all your friends and send in at least 10 of the same ticket each. That'll get em there attention, and the more people you get to do this the better. Because if I remember correctly Fiesta is having problems and people are setting a lot there, so if you want some change here send in more tickets then them :D Show the Outspark guys the dedication we the Windslayer player base have! Or Just quit find a new game and tell me what it is if its any good ;)
EDIT: Just because I'm defending the GMs and CLs don't mean I'm not pissed too. GM rider only told us the info about update coming on wednesday on a personal level. If they were 100% about the release they woulda made some kinda announcement and posted it on the main page. Now if outspark was really lying ect... To keep us here they would post in the main page so and so are coming out Tomorrow! Instead of having one GM tell us the date and start a rumor. We don't know if it was a Lie or not when we don't have all the info.
Really Good example would be my OMG! Thread with the picture of Rider saying classes aren't coming out. I figured he was joking since someone told him to say that, but he never replied after being told that, so...
Did you think I was Mad when I made the thread or did you think I was making it as a joke? You would never know and can only view it your way unless you're the few who I've talked to on vent about the matter.
And its the same in the case that rider told us classes are coming out. He coulda been lying and making a personal joke to keep us hanging on his every word or he coulda been told by someone at work who's actually doing the programing that they'll finish with 2nd class update on Wednesday. Unless we were there to overhear their conversation we can't say he lied to us.
Don't be jumping into conclusions quickly and pulling the trigger you're just killing the messenger and after the first time Kronos said what he did have you seen him around as much? Kronos and Rider could be risking their jobs telling us when updates are released, so instead of thanking them for the inside info. We're just killing off the GMs who actually keeps us in the loop.
Its funny I always end up writing more then I intend to early in the morning.
Edit.. Again: One Last thing lol..
Don't say I've spent so and so money "supporting" the game. Unless you actually sent them money without getting anything back you're not really supporting them. Buying Items from the Cash Shop doesn't mean you support them. It only means you paid for an Item you wanted. You didn't pay them to Update the game only for that item.
Look at Games like WoW people have to pay a monthly fee and they have to buy the new expansions... at least thats what I think no idea who it works, but in the end their monthly fee is only for the upkeep of servers not for updates and these people working on games aren't your parents or friend they're just someone doing business with you. They're trying to earn money and unless they really want to make people happy with their product they don't really have to do anything you ask.
Do you sell an item in game and tell them they can return it when they are done with it? If you felt like being nice you might, but otherwise you're gonna say no and if they pester you about it you're just gonna ignore em.
Arguing with a CL about the rules set by someone else is pointless if you don't like it email Outspark about it spam em to hell with the same stuff over and over again.
Its like yelling at a cop cause you're not allowed to steal stuff when he's only there to arrest you.
Davis even said that if you over react on the forums it only make you look bad, well in her own way. Instead of getting your point across its only gonna get you banned ect. Its why I keep telling you, Hoob to not make these posts. Its pointless and only gets you in trouble.
If they aren't answering your tickets what makes you think they're gonna pay attention to the forums?
The CLs are only here to moderate/police the forums they can't do anything but write reports like all of us except their reports are more of a priority compared to ours. If you're getting up in their face about some little detail they are suppose to enforce because its a rule set by their bosses what do you think their report will be like when they write it up?
To report the guy who's abusing the bug and make them pay for it or Report the guy abusing the bug and the guy who posted it while saying ****** when you're not suppose to and arguing about it when told not to?
If you were following all the rules and at least sound like you're calm in your post then the CLs will at least think you're a respectable player and in their report they'll even put in a bit of effort in helping you like adding in all the little details ect... Otherwise they'll just say "Hey, Boss there's a bug here and this guy here is pretty mad about it you should look into it."
Well, that is what I did when I was a mod for another game/forum. Its annoying trying to write up a report helping a player when they're typing in l33t or arguing with me when I'm just trying to help. I'll still do my job and help you, but its not gonna be my best work. Who knows I've only been here for a little while and don't know every CL, but Davis doesn't seem like the type of person which I am and might still write up that 100% report helping you explain the bug.
EDIT: Haven't you noticed Kaku's first post on how the game is doing bad and it got so much attention by all the GMs and CLs without being closed? It was a well written complaint that didn't break any rules. The only thing your post is about right now is how *** can mean whatever you or he wants it to mean instead of the menti bug which is what you wanted to talk about.
CLs and GMs are basically powerless since they're all following rules too just different ones from us when they have more powers. Cops are allowed to go killing or stealing anything they want to do. They're just normal people like us, but instead of doing this for entertainment they're doing it for money. Also don't say they should listen to you because you spent money on the game. You paid for a cash shop item that did what its suppose to. You didn't pay them to release more content.