View Full Version : tank and meele stats
jdragondude
10-13-2007, 03:43 PM
full str, str and end, full end>tank. full end, end str, full str>meele. i know way its set up is retarted but stay with me witch is best.
lilskaterdud3
10-13-2007, 09:07 PM
What? I don't get it. Builds depend on things, no STR, END, or both build is better than another just based on stats.
Forbin
10-14-2007, 09:38 PM
Voted for all options. Fail poll. Fail post. Invalidated.
Sighto
10-15-2007, 02:51 PM
When it comes to tanking full end is always best, because they have the most def/hp. :D;
As for melee, if you want to do the most damage of course full str would be best. You couldn't take many hits, but it would have the best damage output.
Darkside676
10-17-2007, 07:02 AM
ummm full str and tank?? lol i dun think they would have enough HP or the clerics would have to spam heal like mad...and full END melee? not enough damage because of pure END and no STR
yourmahder
10-18-2007, 02:10 AM
............ try 2:2:1 spr:end:str....
Semaj
10-18-2007, 11:35 AM
my fighter rocks a 1:1 str:spr build, but i almost never solo with him, he is a party melee char only. crits a lot, does ok normal dmg, and i have the duration of all the debuff skills increased (stun, dec. atk, dec. def). works for me, but definately not a tank, though i have tanked the Slime king KQ, had to because i was the highest lv and the most def because of being scrolled. we made it through and i only used a few pots...
Shadowfiend
10-19-2007, 09:01 AM
1:2 str end .... In my opinion is best cause u get hp/def and dmg...... And i also can solo like that :D
XpierulesX
10-20-2007, 04:08 AM
ummm full str and tank?? lol i dun think they would have enough HP or the clerics would have to spam heal like mad...and full END melee? not enough damage because of pure END and no STR
I'm fine because I'm level 24 with full end and I hit pretty good with 90 str..(it's called rings)
AdamWest
10-20-2007, 02:47 PM
i read somewhere on fiesta fan that at least for the first 25 points, spr gives a higher damage increase than str.
it seems to me str is basically useless. pumping str is like adding a drop of water into a bucket.
XpierulesX
10-21-2007, 04:20 AM
Meh, try it sometime then :P
pinkel14
10-22-2007, 05:10 AM
can i interupt?? how can i download this game??
i can't play the client...T_T pls help meeee
Yarimapirate
10-22-2007, 06:05 PM
If somebody is going for a High damage build heres some useful information
5 Strength = 6 Damage
5 Spirit = 1% Crit (Till 25 Spirit points)
5 Spirit = .5% Crit (After 25 Spirit points)
1% Crit will give 12 bonus damage once your average Damage per hit = 600
This does not include bonus damage from skills
If your damage reachs 1200 you gain 24 Bonus damage per 1% crit (12 damage per 5 spirit past 25)
So Simply comes down to if you can Reach 1200 damage, Spirit will bring you a higher level of damage then strength.
Problem with spirit build for a tank is you will be lower damage till you reach higher levels and your damage is unpredictable
maxavier
10-22-2007, 06:13 PM
Basically try 2End:1Spr, 1H sword/shield.
It works well, you get criticals once in awhile. And you can tank.
Octavis
10-23-2007, 10:30 AM
Moste people say late game str dosent add much damage, however the bounes crit from spir +the mdef + extra sp out does str but its not worth the points after 25, So with that said, why not a crit tank 25 spr rest end, you have crit + the bounes mdef will help tank magic using mobs better. also during solo will help out crits no matter what weapon. Of corse all is up to the opinion of the person.
Matlane
10-23-2007, 01:18 PM
I would go 2 end then 1 str then 2 end then 1 str and so on...
mephistipheles_nava
10-23-2007, 01:21 PM
how to make money
XpierulesX
10-25-2007, 12:23 PM
Farm marlone :P
notalther
10-27-2007, 06:32 PM
none of the above
3:1 END SPR
ozzydragon
10-27-2007, 06:35 PM
im goin 2:1 spr/end until 25 spr, im lvl 19 and ive been fine so far, 20 will be the test
taizi
10-27-2007, 08:12 PM
first str tanker....!!!!!!!!!!!!!better than alll
antikv
10-27-2007, 08:13 PM
same as the guy above me
Hadrian
10-28-2007, 11:10 AM
I'm planning on getting to 25 SPI and rest in END, just not sure which order to boost the stats. Probably at least 10-15 straight END first, since SPI doesn't get good until higher levels.
aarcane
10-29-2007, 03:51 AM
as a level 49 pure end tank, I have to say my damage sucks, but I'm invaluable in a party. everyone wants a full end tank to take all the hits, and take 'em well,, everyone wants us to stun often, hard, and fast, and everyone wants us to take hits from 10 different monsters. and we can do it.
as for DDs, the most common build for under 59 is to have 25 spr and the rest in str. once the 59 cap is lifted, that may be changed.
Summit
10-29-2007, 10:35 PM
as a level 49 pure end tank, I have to say my damage sucks, but I'm invaluable in a party. everyone wants a full end tank to take all the hits, and take 'em well,, everyone wants us to stun often, hard, and fast, and everyone wants us to take hits from 10 different monsters. and we can do it.
as for DDs, the most common build for under 59 is to have 25 spr and the rest in str. once the 59 cap is lifted, that may be changed.
lol the thing is.. with full end you'll need a full party to make up for the lack of dps, in other cases end:str end:spr (more sp more skill spam more crits) you need about a party of 3 so you get more xp and can still tank and kill fast enough.
JudgeIronFist
10-31-2007, 08:25 PM
i would chosse str,end and DEX!you all dun think tt dex is important?dex incresed our aim and even you hav alot of str and end,you will hit the monsters with MISSES and cant even kill tt monster so DEX is important too
JudgeIronFist
10-31-2007, 08:44 PM
no!str has uses!spr onli increase ur crit atk but it does not increase the range atk for every hit but str does!it stables ur atk and lets you have the same atk every hit!str is not useless!!
JudgeIronFist
10-31-2007, 08:49 PM
no!str has uses!spr onli increase the crit damage for every hit but str increase the damage for every hit it stables the damages and the range of atks.str is not useless!
JudgeIronFist
10-31-2007, 08:54 PM
no!!str has uses!spr onli increases the crit damage every hit but str lets you increases the range damage and stables the damage for every hit and increase the maximum damage.str is not usesless:mad:
kaskote
10-31-2007, 09:02 PM
firstly, this poll doesn't make sense. the debate here is good though. many good points. i have a 44 fighter and i'm pretty capable of kicking ****. i have +24 end and +25 spr. critical hits galore when you take my +7% crit rate from the sword into consideration. i can easily tank lower mobs with a party and deal a lot of damage as well. but when it comes to taking on bosses and such, i can't do it. full end fighters can, but i can't. every build has it's uses. i wouldn't say any are better than the others. they're all great if used appropriately. and to whoever said something about dex, you're totally right! i wouldn't add too many points there, but definately keep dexterity rings handy when you go training in high level areas!
Summit
11-03-2007, 05:43 AM
firstly, this poll doesn't make sense. the debate here is good though. many good points. i have a 44 fighter and i'm pretty capable of kicking ****. i have +24 end and +25 spr. critical hits galore when you take my +7% crit rate from the sword into consideration. i can easily tank lower mobs with a party and deal a lot of damage as well. but when it comes to taking on bosses and such, i can't do it. full end fighters can, but i can't. every build has it's uses. i wouldn't say any are better than the others. they're all great if used appropriately. and to whoever said something about dex, you're totally right! i wouldn't add too many points there, but definately keep dexterity rings handy when you go training in high level areas!
Are you trying to tank bosses with a 2h? and which bosses may these be, because I have less +End and able to tank bosses in that arent too much higher than me just fine with a shield and 1h
BKArrius
11-04-2007, 01:52 PM
I'm fine with a 2h 2str:1end. Enough HP and def to endure a bit, and nice hits.
Archaonn
11-04-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm a full end warrior simply because I loves to tank and with full END i have a lot of def to make monster's attacks do measly damage and I've got tonnes of hp for survivability
Luna_Moore
11-04-2007, 08:35 PM
What do 2H and 1H mean?
kaithz09
11-05-2007, 05:24 AM
2H = using 2 handed sword
1H= 1 handed sword
Cortaal
11-05-2007, 06:15 AM
My build is probably different than most because I have 5 SPR for 1% more crit chance and the rest split between END and STR. I'll probably be putting more in to SPR soon to get 2% more crit chance from it.
Vandread888
11-16-2007, 07:11 PM
all the builds seem really convincing, but is there a way to make an all-around build?, one that can take some dmg and deal it at the same time?
i'm thinking 25spr then 3:2 End Str, how do you think that would hold?
Vandread888
11-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Also if this game is like others, DEX should raise your attk. speed, thus for high spirit users = more crits
lordyasha
11-17-2007, 01:01 AM
I think there is no certain fixed form of any char in this game.
However, I will just right down how most of Korean fighters put their stats.
1. Pure End fighter- shield/1h sword & axe [recommend]
party/ KQ favorit fighter
low side- bad for 2handed sword, slow soloing, less damages.
2. Spr 25+ all str fighter- 2H sword & axe[recommend 2H sword more]
first you need 25 spr... not 24 or 20, must be at spr 25.
This is best for 2handed sword. spr 25 give 5%[i think] crit increase.
Some new player think if they wear spr ring/armors/weap will raise more crit rate. Sorry, only free stat spr raise the critical hit ratio and cash armors[not here yet, but in korean server].
why 2H sword? cuz axe gives already good damages. Before lvl 40 axe, full str axer give much more damages, but after lvl 40 axe, full str axer still give more damages but not too much compare to pure end axer.
2H sword has much less damage than axe but its faster,miss less and it looks good. more str will cover the less damage.
3. bad stats for fighter- any dex. [not even 1 point on dex please]
4. spr 25+ all end [ Not recommend]
If all end 1H fighter give 50 damges/ critical- about 100 dmages.
While, all str 2H fighter give 120 damage/ crit- 250.
pure end fighter 200 hp+ def> spr 25+ end fighter [at lvl 20~]
spr 25+ end fighter 5% crit> pure end fighter.
*there is cash item resets the stats in korean server, only like 10 usd. so dont worry about stats and enjoy the game :)
nessy2317
11-17-2007, 01:58 AM
lol ur build must be balanced... not focused on 1 stat coz it may cause build destruction... balance like... if u want a tanker type put str + end + spr ( ur char lvl was 17 and when im lvl 17 my build was 7 str + 5 end + 5 spr ) well.. just a suggestion on u but its up to you what you want... :D
Vandread888
11-17-2007, 03:27 PM
i've been working on my fighter, and i like wat's become of it so far. i plan making him a 25 SPR and the rest is END. the crit rate is so high you mostly just see purple numbers on your enemies. idk how this would fair on a guild battle, but for KQ it's excellent and for solo field it does fine
gkhhkg
11-18-2007, 08:45 PM
i read somewhere on fiesta fan that at least for the first 25 points, spr gives a higher damage increase than str.
it seems to me str is basically useless. pumping str is like adding a drop of water into a bucket.
ya,at earlyier lvl u may see sum diffrence in putting str,but str is totally useless,waste ur stat oni,pump end n spr can ad,add spr until 25,then all end,this built enables u to bcome a dps fighter or can b a tanker if u use a shield,dun pump str
hellerboi
11-22-2007, 05:21 PM
Hmm i am new here now is lvl 14 i am adding pure END .. but i think is dam not so good cause i nd to double the hit of str build... anyway i have some question .. do we need to add some DEX?? cause sometime i miss my attack and skill :(
mysticarts101
11-24-2007, 09:00 PM
well I think the good thing is that we all agree fighters should up STR, END, and SPR in some way, and also agree it depends on what you want to do with your fighter. I personally think that a fighter needs to be well balanced. This means for PvP too (so you need SPR for mages, at least enough so you can survive the initial blasts). END is key, a must have and should be your highest stat period. SPR should be done in increments of five for the crit %. STR can be whatever you want, but there should be some. So in summary I think a fighter should put the 25 into SPR, almost all of the remaining in END but do save 10 or so points in STR with the rest of STR being STR rings and STR bonus equipment. You won't be able to stand as many hits as a full end tank(and non magic ones only however you will survive magic attacks much bettter so watch out mages in PvP), but you will do way more damage and have a pretty decent survivorability. Full STR tanks have very little suvivorability and since a fighter is in the front lines...bad idea. Hope that makes since ;) What do you guys think?
Chosen
11-29-2007, 08:22 AM
Im non of them all.
im END+60
SPR+25
diaror
12-05-2007, 03:21 AM
I think I agree with the guy you all didn't notice, What about 25 spr all way and then 3:2 str,end? Or if you want 3:2 end,str?