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jdragondude
10-13-2007, 03:53 PM
best archer (near perfic build)
full spr
full str
full dex
spr,str
spr,dex
str, dex

making the worled a better place for new players :)

Chriszed
10-13-2007, 04:05 PM
Well hard to say best. I said DEX and SPR cuz those are their main stats.

Roxias
10-13-2007, 06:06 PM
Builds are pointless.

jdragondude
10-14-2007, 06:36 AM
Builds are pointless.

roxias just shut up and let people do what they want

Chriszed
10-14-2007, 07:27 AM
They are not pointless at all.

Roxias
10-14-2007, 08:14 AM
roxias just shut up and let people do what they want
Please do not tell me to shut up. I am simply stating my opinion. I never said people cannot do what they want.

elgintidus15
10-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Please do not tell me to shut up. I am simply stating my opinion. I never said people cannot do what they want.

I agree, even if peoples opinions are negitive it is still their opinion and they have a right to state it. After all this is not Iran...

konataa
10-16-2007, 05:48 AM
STR\DEX w/ a 1:3 ratio

Lost_Sign
10-17-2007, 05:51 PM
END:SPR 2:3 the best i could think of as spr is sure more dmg then str so never ever put str on an archer ^^

Endlesskiller
10-17-2007, 06:13 PM
I vote ________ hahaha you will never know.

MonkE67
10-18-2007, 04:00 AM
well, obviously u'd need some spr, but not pure
so that narrows it down to spr/dex or spr/str
but str isn't as useful as dex for archers

jdragondude
10-18-2007, 03:26 PM
Please do not tell me to shut up. I am simply stating my opinion. I never said people cannot do what they want.

no roxias ur anoting get of my poll ok :)

Semaj
10-18-2007, 03:34 PM
END:SPR 2:3 the best i could think of as spr is sure more dmg then str so never ever put str on an archer ^^

spr doesnt "add" damage, it increases your crit, magic def., and sp points.

Lost_Sign
10-18-2007, 09:15 PM
spr "adds" dmg dont crit dmg more then str lol u dont agree?

Archaonn
10-19-2007, 09:35 AM
Please do not tell me to shut up. I am simply stating my opinion. I never said people cannot do what they want.

If it is pointless whats the reason, every opinion needs a reason. Spr and Dex are most important.

Tsujin
10-19-2007, 01:45 PM
spr "adds" dmg dont crit dmg more then str lol u dont agree?
Sure, but it only adds .2% chance until you have 25 points, then .1%. It's not like if you add all of your points into SPR you critical every hit, you have a 5% better chance(at 25). STR is guaranteed damage(although not as much as I'd like it to be). Anyways, i use 25 SPR/ Rst STR build, and it works well for me.

reccaftw
10-19-2007, 06:34 PM
i went 25 spr. 5 on str (currently level 25) i will continue going STR and any equipment jewls necklaces etc. that i get will go towards increaseing spirit/critical %.
will also try to get some green bows

AngelOfGod
10-19-2007, 06:43 PM
i say its spr but i like to get the critical hits

Belthy
10-22-2007, 06:36 PM
I have a pure str build on my lvl 31 archer and this seems to work very well. I also believe I am doing the most damage because in KQ's the monsters usually leave the tank and attack me instead (only when the tank doesn't taunt of course).

jachenfromashes
10-25-2007, 04:42 AM
is it ok if my build is STR and DEX?

einomida
11-04-2007, 07:32 AM
So far I`m lvl 8 and I`ve done +6 STR and +2 DEX. What does exactly Aim do???
But since I now know that SPR increases crit. rate I`m going to develop this aswell or start a new character to avoid getting spread between 3 different stats.
And I`m voting... STR/SPR I think.

Cheralynn
11-05-2007, 08:23 PM
I've decided to go on the DEX/SPR build with a 2:1 ratio. Then, when SPR's gone to 25*, I've decided to add DEX/END on the ratio of 3:2. Typically, I'd go on a build built by other people to get the best results, but after FlyFF, I thought, 'Screw that, I'm makin' my own fricken archer the way I want! ><'

Anywho... going with the the little asterisk(*), I've been wanting to clear this up since I was a little newblet... the 25 is for +25 that you add in, or is it until the stat itself has raised to 25? I've always been confused on that subject @.@;;

Daigotsu
11-07-2007, 12:28 AM
Anywho... going with the the little asterisk(*), I've been wanting to clear this up since I was a little newblet... the 25 is for +25 that you add in, or is it until the stat itself has raised to 25? I've always been confused on that subject @.@;;

That's +25 extra stat points you put in SPR, not the base SPR itself. The latter rises to 25 fast enough on its own.

Desolate_Raven
11-07-2007, 01:51 AM
I choose pure spr because str has minimal effect on damage (+60 damage at +50 str -- at that point weapons have hundreds and hundreds of damage of their own) and I don't even see the point of dex cause you barely dodge anything at higher levels even with pure dex and an evade scroll, and the aim can be replaced by an aim scroll. Spr on the other hand lets me spam my skills and at lv 30 I have a crit rate of 13% including my equips o.O

rapturedlife
11-07-2007, 07:28 AM
I'm suprised that hardly anyone has mentioned END for archers. I am favorable of first putting 25 points into SPR because it adds .2% crit for each and it helps your SP a lot. After that I would either go full END or full DEX. I personally wouldn't touch STR because the dmg that it adds is so miniscule that it's barely noticed.

So I vote SPR/DEX ^_^:)

Jabix
11-07-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm suprised that hardly anyone has mentioned END for archers. I am favorable of first putting 25 points into SPR because it adds .2% crit for each and it helps your SP a lot. After that I would either go full END or full DEX. I personally wouldn't touch STR because the dmg that it adds is so miniscule that it's barely noticed.

So I vote SPR/DEX ^_^:)

Totally agree. Voted the same! :D

Shadowfiend
11-08-2007, 07:19 PM
I have rly no idea but spr dex ,,, spr cause you need crits, and dex beacsue gives more aim and evade....



I'm more fighter then any other classes but like clerics too =)... About archers well they are helpful but hard to solo higher lvls so as mages.... they can only party........

Starch
11-08-2007, 09:20 PM
Near Pure END with little SPR is my built:D

nuinung
11-12-2007, 06:55 AM
I did 25 SPR then full STR, that is my way of an archer, ppl often said that STR is useless, but I saw the usefullness in STR, i have lots of AIM scroll tier 2, def scroll tier 2 and also Natural Agility Tier 2...so I think no need to waste point on END and DEX
And about Bow or XBow, if you empowered your skills with Decrease Cool Time, and you would like to spam skill, XBow is a very good choice, if not ,Bow is your choice.

madcow1005
11-12-2007, 02:44 PM
i think best would be 25+ of spr and 10+ of end then rest to str

madcow1005
11-12-2007, 03:58 PM
25+spr
10+end
rest str

T.KIRA.M
11-14-2007, 07:29 AM
ya u tell him , and besides sometimes builds are pointless just cause there the best dont mean that u HAVE to follow em

r4ng3r
11-17-2007, 11:58 PM
Here are the builds i think are good....

STR/DEX (ratio 3:1):
this is a all out attack build, hits high but has no crit rate
and barely any SP

this build i sugest chosing a bow

SPR/DEX (+25 SPR & pure DEX)
This is a good build as you have a crit rate of 5.00% and have
a good, DEX
DEX= they will get a few misses.
i sugest chosing a Xbow

so if a archer hits 10 hits 1000 damage,
mage hits 1000 after 10 hits,
archer's DEX blocks 4 hits say 50,50,50,50.
well thats 200 damage not hit so archer gets more hits then mage but
if you had STR/DEX u would score say 1300 in 10 hits
mage hits 1000 in 10 hits
you would hit more BUT take the 1000 damage

so you decide.....

Zwivix
11-21-2007, 11:37 AM
Well I chose non of the above. I made a Tank Archer (Crits Build). With 25 SPR and the rest END. I also have accessories rings that add +14 SPR Earrings that add +40SP and +1% Crits.

So I can outdamage mages or fighters at least 5 lvs higher than me. ^^

Trashknight
11-22-2007, 01:16 PM
I hope it won't backfire too much on me later on. Currently using a powerbuild with dex as secondary until my damage does stabilize as decent due to the Archer's low attack-strength.

The 3:1 build, if you will.

AthenaTheGreekGod
11-23-2007, 05:34 AM
how is levelling up easy?

AthenaTheGreekGod
11-23-2007, 06:02 AM
how did u level up easily

Daigotsu
11-25-2007, 12:03 AM
Party with a tank and a cleric in Collapsed Prison and pull the trees to the tank, fast experience gains FTW.

JPO26
11-25-2007, 01:58 AM
...Are there people with high lvl archers around??? the only builds ive seen so far are people with max lvl 30 archers :S ***.

Im now running around with a Str/Spr archer lvl 45 and I used 2 have a lvl 31 Dex/Spr build archer. But i cant really see the difference between this str based archer and the dex based archer in turns of hits / evades. I dont evade much on higher mobs and I hit almost everything so whats the use of Dex anyways? Atleast Str gives me xtra dmg and with the 25spr my crits do kill fast and I get around 3/4 crit hits per high mob ( u know the red ones in aew).
And *** is it with end build archers :S ive seen them on highler lvls than me and the HP difference is only 100 hp :S........riiiight.

hyoten
12-01-2007, 08:41 PM
I vote ________ hahaha you will never know.

....we dont really give wat u voted

Ryoshin
12-01-2007, 10:50 PM
We have a level 59 25 spr pure dex archer in Bijou, and frankly, he doesnt get hit alot, and manages to stand and take 3 hits from mini dragon.

My current built is 25 spr pure dex; I can solo Harkans/Weakened Ogres just fine, rarely using an HP pot/stone aswell.

lightningmystix
12-02-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm going 15 SPR rest END.

Thinking about going DEX, but probably won't since I've already put 4 stats into END.

shorty101289
12-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Id like to state first, that i stopped reading the threads after page 2, after becoming so thorougly annoyed with peoples ignorance. As far as an archer build goes, i say either pure str(which i believe is best) or 25spr, then pump the rest into str.

Although the strength stat does not add an amazing percent of damage, it is a decent enough amount. I personally prefer knowing im going to kill sumthing, as opposed to hoping i land a critical to kill the mob.

My real bone to pick here, is with the people who say to put dex into an archer. If u are an archer, and know ur class at all, u should know that they gain plenty of dexterity naturally. Being there main stat, its much higher then with any other class. Look at all the archer equips(e.g. rings), they promote strength and dexterity. So, please do not waste ur time putting points into dexterity. If ur fighting mobs u shouldnt be, in which u miss all or most of the time(e.g. orcs in uruga at lvl 30), an aim scroll will more then make up for what a ton of dex points could do.

Ryoshin
12-02-2007, 12:12 PM
Like what everyone says, each built has its own pro's and con's, you think str is the best built, some say dex is, some go wacky and go for end.

Regardless of strong factors you've stated if you go with str, you're still soft; and can't possibly just rely on an occasional miss or two.

This is where the Dex factors comes in, I currently have 20 on my dex, and I can solo a harkan which seldom lands a hit on me.

I know my char, I know my class ,and I know how the stat system in this game works.

TBH, just balance the stats, don't focus on just one stat.

Pure str = fail.
Pure dex = fail.
Pure spr. = fail.
Pure end = fail.

Korthiera
12-04-2007, 07:43 AM
About thoes criticals ... its not so much hoping to land a critical because with 25 spr its almost inevitable. Its really a question of whether or not you can hit 3 or 4.

That said ...

High dex is said lose effectiveness at higher levels where misses occur only 2 or 3 times, and so people have trialed and errored (and evidently praised) str for the whole +50 or so damage in the end.

I'd rather miss 2 hits (potentially saving our behinds) then hitting an extra 50 points of dmg.

imo

EchoSound
12-04-2007, 02:42 PM
When I had the first Teiryn she was full dex, and I noticed how weak she was, so I had to pump stats into end. She'd still die easily, and it took a long time to kill things. When I restarted her as full str... well, she takes aggro from fighters in KQ, and I end up tanking.

So uh... my vote went to full str, because archers need to kill the enemy before it gets to them. Just like mages with their full int. Dex won't do much but increase evasion, which when I scroll up, I don't take that many hits anyway. And life-span is fine, as well as spr if you decrease the sp consumption with your skill points.

darknessprevails
12-07-2007, 06:33 PM
i would suggest combining spr and int for powerful active skills

Rafael2191
12-07-2007, 07:05 PM
who knows what I voted. even I don't know.

darknessprevails
12-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Builds are pointless.
biulds are not pointless and shonen jump is an awsome show.

jdragondude
12-21-2007, 03:50 PM
XD this is still going on omg lol

sseldnim
12-21-2007, 11:08 PM
i voted 25 spr rest dex, but i personally am getting 25 spr 30 dex, rest str, and not in that order. although ive come to see strength as being very good, having the first 30 dex, which each add .3 aim and .2 evade, would l8er b more beneficial thatn 30 str in the end. i would go full dex if it did start to add less after 33 points. but i say this.




get str if ur just planning to play this for fun, as it is more beneficial in the beginning, but if ur planning to to hard out get at least some dex. its waaaay better at end. remember:




30 str will ALWAYS add 36 damage 30 dex might add 30 dex this lvl, but as it is a percentage, it will add more aim and evasion EVERY lvl

strikkes
12-24-2007, 08:02 PM
it seems to me after reading through the fourms and all of the math equasions that str beats dex and end in my opinion.... i buy lots of pots and stones, im not poor i make scrolls, stones and pots on my own... its really not expensive so far.... so why pump end or dex... just drink a pot or use a stone... the suplimental income made from production skills more then makes up for the cost of stones.... you caN make your own pots and scrolls. dont both because from what ive read a evasion scroll gives the same evasion as 25 pts to dex and an aim scroll overcomes 25 dex in stats. im going x-bow skill spam with 25 spr and full str after that. its not hard to acomplish what pumping full dex gives with scrolls so why waste the stats?

just imo so leave me a line on this all and prove me wrong...

sseldnim
12-24-2007, 08:44 PM
wat about full dex plus scroll 0.o

krazyboi
12-24-2007, 08:58 PM
i like to put 25spr for crit 5dex to higher the chances of poison and the rest is str :P

flyingeskimo
12-26-2007, 07:05 AM
i would vote str and end even tho there not archers main stats but i only chose archer for speed which outspark didnt give archers alot of -.-
but i votes str and dex which is praticly same as str and end

jmguiking
01-27-2008, 03:07 AM
is it useless for an archer to have strength or it will still increase the damage of its attacks?

dragonswordmaster
01-27-2008, 05:39 AM
dex is absloutly pointless in the game you don't need it at higher lvls because its almost purely luck with misses so don't dex ever

dragonswordmaster
01-27-2008, 05:42 AM
honestly i have to use a stat reset scroll to get my int end down becsaue i meesed up a bit at the start. most people here obously haven't played archer because if they have they would know that we don't need the extra aim and evasion is just luck

sseldnim
01-27-2008, 07:21 PM
honestly i have to use a stat reset scroll to get my int end down becsaue i meesed up a bit at the start. most people here obously haven't played archer because if they have they would know that we don't need the extra aim and evasion is just luck


lol crits r luck too

Darksnow
01-29-2008, 01:18 AM
lol. everyone has der opinion
dont be mean
hahaha
strength rocks
lol
and spirit
lol

blazedaces
01-29-2008, 01:45 AM
honestly i have to use a stat reset scroll to get my int end down becsaue i meesed up a bit at the start. most people here obously haven't played archer because if they have they would know that we don't need the extra aim and evasion is just luck

lol crits r luck too

I don't think you people understand the concept of luck. If the percentages line up so that you are missed 1/10 times then that is it. There's nothing else to it. Count it over time and that's your percentage of being missed. You can depend on that percentage. There's no such thing as the so-called "luck" you described, it's just odds, simple numbers. Especially if we consider that everything in the computer is pseudo-random.

For example, if your damage is 100 against a certain mob and you have +10% crit from free stat and weapon then your average damage (over time, which is what you care about) = 100 * (9/10) + 200 * (1/10) = 90 + 20 = 110.

-blazed

darjpen10
01-29-2008, 02:11 AM
haha! i chose none.. i would do 25 spr and rest str xD tho.. i deleted my archer at lvl 17... hahaha.... archers just suk.. in my opinion

mimisaki
01-29-2008, 02:32 AM
archer vs fighter >> no chance
archer vs cleric >> 4get it , they can cure
archer vs mage >> u can win with str/spr build

XxA_D_M_I_NxX : archer 68 Bijou

joedoe
01-29-2008, 04:39 AM
Well i'm playing all classes and do seriously think the archer is not a good choice...

what's the point of strength in an archer?

DEX shoudn't be connected with critical?

a good aim should make an archer hit sensitive spot on his target...

if the point is only evasion and never missing then the Dex skill becomes useless to the archer...

a simple change in the build of the caracther... improving dex = improve critical hit... at least for the archer class...

Dex should be the first thing an archer would be interested...

this is only my opinion...

MewMewLina
01-29-2008, 04:52 AM
My archer is full str, does fine.