Best Archer Build For Soloing??

[timely_clock]

Hi everyone,
Lately, after creating a Damage Dealing Fighter (level 20 atm) I went to the level 20 Abyss, and even though I was quite low to be there I was taking a beating from the monsters. And I was also missing a lot with my axe. While I was there I saw two Archers in a party and a great idea popped into my head. Archer is the greatest mix of two types of Classes. Mage (can start doing damage from far away) and Fighter (not as squishy as mage, and can actually take some hits if a monster attacks close and does relatively a good mix of damage fight in between massive hits against someone with low magic defense and someone with low defense. So after rambling on here is my question:

What is the best build for an archer that is going to solo a lot? There are several I have been considering but just not sure which would benefit me the most. And I will be using monster drops as my source of money. Several I have come up with have been. 25 SPR Rest Str (might be too squishy and the str additions would be noticeable until 40+) 2DEX 1STR (not sure about this one, might be good to dodge) 2 END 1DEX 1STR (Might take too much time to really see how well this does 55+ dont wanna get to those levels and realize how horrible a build it is). So anyway those are just some of my ideas feel free to post any knew builds you think will be good for a CROSSBOW SOLOER.
Thanks again and sorry for the long post :p

Archer_0f_Epith ~ A new day has come, along with a new archer:cool:

[kryptic-]

What do you want in an archer?

I Personally think that 25 SPR, 50 END, Rest STR is the best build for an all around archer. However, for soloing I would reccomend 25 spr, rest str. Or full spr. Or if you want really good survivability you could do full dex. But you would kill very slowly.

[mage_way14]

or full end combine it with the lvl 20 aoe and you eill br ablr to takr decen mobs useing some pots and stones. Then once you get to lvl 51 use the venmous shot and you can kite any mob

[cercia]

I've heard the merits of several of builds, and ultimately, I have to say I don't think the hybrid builds are worthwhile.

25 spr is a must. You have a naturally high crit, there's no sense in not augmenting it.

Beyond that, I think the rest of the points should be flushed into one stat.

If you want to kill faster, then put them into Str. This makes a greater difference at early levels than later levels, where your DoTs will end up dealing most of your damage.

If you want to crit frequently, use Spr exclusively. There is at least one archer here who can testify to that being a massive damage build. This is slow to start, though.

If you want high survivability, go with Dex, not End. End turns out to simply not be worth it in my opinion. When 60 levels of end can be accounted for by a single +30 End on an armor, it just doesn't seem worthwhile to bother. Dex, however, is riskier. While the bonus shrinks, I personally enjoy seeing the frequent "Miss" of mobs, and I think that you can gather larger mobs overall with a Dex archer than a Str archer, simply due to ability to evade the attacks.

Really, though, it comes down to what you want to do. A soloing Dex archer is going to have the enemies live longer, but they'll also miss with greater frequency. I don't think any of us know quite how to do the math for this yet.

[seebrown]

I'm a mid-level archer (44), and soloed just about every quest until recently. I began as 25 SPR and remaining STR, then swapped to full SPR (reset a majority of my skills) because I decided I liked a more frequent crit than a higher damage on average. Either of these two builds work great for soloing, though; it was just my personal preference to switch. I can't attest to soloing after levels 4x for either build, but from what I've read on the forums, they do just fine into the 80s. :)

[timely_clock]

hmmm,
So far I kinda want to have DEX in my build but i still want to hit well and have crits, so now it is 2STR:1SPR(until 25):1DEX

What do you think of that build?

[vampyrio]

hmmm,
So far I kinda want to have DEX in my build but i still want to hit well and have crits, so now it is 2STR:1SPR(until 25):1DEX

What do you think of that build?

Not bad. I'd stop the str at 50 and go full dex from there on. Im not gonna bother with spr tho. My idea is to go full out on either full str or full dex for maximum ability.

[themichael]

if your not gonna go at least 50 DEX its not worth is.

Like cercia I think the 25SPR is very important to any archer.
Therefore I advise that you Implement that into your build.

If you wanna be a PvP archer
Go 25SPR then 50DEX then full STR
25SPR full DEX
or 25SPR full STR (this is only good if you want to be a DD killer. With this build I advise you shy away from fighters) This is my build and I pwn at PvP but its difficult to kill +9 axe fighters at times.

If you wanna be a solo archer
You can go 25SPR 50DEX/orEND full STR
Pure SPR
or 25SPR full STR

Party archers
25SPR full STR
or Pure SPR

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[mehe25]

What do you want in an archer?

I Personally think that 25 SPR, 50 END, Rest STR is the best build for an all around archer. However, for soloing I would reccomend 25 spr, rest str. Or full spr. Or if you want really good survivability you could do full dex. But you would kill very slowly.

I wouldn't say that slowly because even strength doesn't add that much damage to an archer.

[themichael]

STR, END(for DEf and HP not block rate), and SPR in free stats gives the same benefit to ever class. (INT for mages)

Yet DEX is an archers best friend becuase DEX is the only Stat that uses % per point and also includes armor and scrolls(which we have the most EVA in). No other class benefits from this stat as much as archers.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[timely_clock]

meh i still dont know what is best for Soloing =/. Too many choices. Im thinking 25spr rest str, but that might make me too squishy?? However i would hit well.

[cercia]

Well, depending on how busy my week keeps me, I might be able to do an experiment with my two archers. I have one who is "wife bound" (I won't level her until her ig wife returns to Fiesta) who is a str/25 spr build, level 60. My dex/25 spr build is level 57, so as soon as I get her to 60, I can use the same gears on both, and do a series of controlled experiments to get a rough estimation of what the differences are at that level.

As an odd note, my dex archer currently has 2 higher str than dex, if free stats are excluded. Not sure how/why, but she does.

[xavier_swift]

I've toyed around with archers for a bit, I think that being able to kill things before they get to you is the best. So, any builds featuring SPR and STR are the best for soloing. Me personally, I was going to go with the 25SPR rest STR until I get the two main AOEs. Then I was going to switch over to END

[grecohawaii]

If you want high survivability, go with Dex, not End. End turns out to simply not be worth it in my opinion. When 60 levels of end can be accounted for by a single +30 End on an armor, it just doesn't seem worthwhile to bother. Dex, however, is riskier. While the bonus shrinks, I personally enjoy seeing the frequent "Miss" of mobs, and I think that you can gather larger mobs overall with a Dex archer than a Str archer, simply due to ability to evade the attacks.

But can a dex archer gather more than an end archer? You need to remember that, although 60 points of free stat end add the same amount of visible defense as 30points of green stat end, free stat end gets added into the formula differently. Just like free stat str, it is 'tacked-on' at the end of the formula. Meaning, that if they would normally hit you for 200, with 60 points of free stat end, they would automatically hit you for 170 instead, wheras green stat end becomes less effective the higher the attack of whatever is hitting you. Note: free stat end also cuts off the effectiveness of incoming attacks backed by free stat str, something not even full +9 armors can boast.

While personally, I would agree that end for an archer is not the greatest idea, can you imagine a world where, while kiting at level 85+, you have a mob of 10mobs following you while you kite, and you turn a corner and they all hit you.... and for some miraculous reason, you take 500less damage thanks to your free stat end? (10mobs*[100freestatend/2]). But, oh wait, your 100 points of free stat end add 500 hp to you.... Wow, you are surviving! O.o

Truthfully, I think a well rounded build for pve is 25spr 50end rest str. I have met several 80+ archers with this build, befriended them and partied with them, and they really are a lot more durable than I am with such a small amount of end.

If you want to be the 'mage' of the archer class (sitting back and aoeing what your tank has gathered) go full spr. I can outdamage/aggro most mages, and even a chaincasted Awaken has issues aggroing from me. (in fact, most fighte4rs get so frustrated with my damage that I end up slapping on t4's and doing a large amount of the tanking). ;o

If you just want to solo and be able to take on massive mobs, I would probably suggest full dex if you have money to +9 some armors. If you don't, full end will give you that survivability without any chance of error.

If you want to be able to kill fighters (firstly, you WILL need sparkcash for this), go full str with a bow and get some crit suits.

Enjoy. :3

[fireyair]

STR, END(for DEf and HP not block rate), and SPR in free stats gives the same benefit to ever class. (INT for mages)

Yet DEX is an archers best friend becuase DEX is the only Stat that uses % per point and also includes armor and scrolls(which we have the most EVA in). No other class benefits from this stat as much as archers.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

It appears we have started a religion. ;)



Peace:cool:

[m78390215]

It appears we have started a religion. ;)


Peace:cool:

Too bad those BK weapons and hellgaits destroyed our "religion" (in PvP).

[mehe25]

Too bad those BK weapons and hellgaits destroyed our "religion" (in PvP).

Not in PvE though ^-^


But can a dex archer gather more than an end archer?

Yes.

[Zalia]

My archer is 6x and my build is 25spr rest str...It works great for me. I can kill most players my level at PVP (With the exception of Fully +9ed fighters, SC noobs, ect.), and I'm very good at soloing and I'm good in a party too.
I think that if you want to be all around good at everything this is the build to go for...
The builds with dex in it are useless for PVP at higher levels because of the new BK axes aim.
About having END or STR, I see it this way...END gears act exactly the same as END free points, but STR on gears don't ignore monster def while STR free points does, so it is more useful to have STR free points and good END gears.

[darthnish]

if you want my advice, please post in my build adviser thread. link is in my siggie

[babymaker688]

What do you want in an archer?

I Personally think that 25 SPR, 50 END, Rest STR is the best build for an all around archer. However, for soloing I would reccomend 25 spr, rest str. Or full spr. Or if you want really good survivability you could do full dex. But you would kill very slowly.

You cud replace 50 end with 50 dex

[themichael]

I agree with Babymarker688( >w< HAHAHA)
Thats my favorite build. And its also the best all around build.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[mehe25]

You cud replace 50 end with 50 dex

Yes, it does seem more effiecient.