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Limes
10-15-2007, 05:18 PM
Archer Guide and Info Base

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w202/BagelingToast/shot.jpg

This under construction at the moment, there is very little I can add with the lack of content in closed beta...
But, I will try to provide some information and tips for playing as one, as well as answer any questions you may have with them.

Job Change

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The job change is very simple, however being beta, there is a mistake on the armor names requested by Reinmoth (The Job Change NPC).
When she is asking for "Armor/Gloves/Helmet/Boots of Light", it is supposed to be "Armor/Gloves/Helmet/Boots of -Flash-". You also will need a "Dagger of Rose" to go with it.

I'm not 100% sure, but it may require a clean set. (no +1/2/3... and so on.)(Need to confirm this)

After obtaining the requested items from the weapon and armor shop, she will ask you to unequip your current gear. After talking one final time you will become an Archer!
(Not 100% sure if you *need* to unequip, I did beforehand.)

Lastly, don't forget to buy arrows at the weapon store!

Limes
10-15-2007, 05:18 PM
Stat Point Placement

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Base Status

POW: 9
INT: 1
AGI: 9
MEN: 1
STA: 3
WIS: 1

Status Point Bonuses

--POW--
2/3 Attack
30 Weight

--INT--
1 Magic

--AGI--
1/2 Attack
1/3 Dodge
2/15 Attack Speed (8 points, then 7 points, repeat.)
??? Skill Critical (Get 1 point at 10 AGI, then another point after adding 7 more, then 5 more points for another in skill critical, repeat 7 and 5 alternating.)
(Can't think of a possible fraction/formula for this right now. (Support for this would be great.))

--MEN--
1/8 Dodge
1/3 Hit
??? Critical (2 points of MEN do nothing, then 2 more add two Critical, repeat)(Weird...)
1/2 Skill Critical

--STA--
12 HP

--WIS--
10 MP

This is a bit flaky and might not be perfect... Also, it might / might not apply to other classes other then Archer.


Builds

--Full POW--

I have found full POW to be the the most effective stat for Archers... so far.
It gives us high damage output, allows us to hold a very large amount of pots, and being a ranged class, doesn't require much, if any hp.
Unless there are some items/buffs/skills that might make another stat more effective, I recommend POW for now.


--2:1 POW / MEN (20 MEN Maximum)--


I want you all to know, that Archers have no 4th class change. Meaning while you will be stronger at level 45 then any other class (Similar to how Mage is stronger 16-30) you will be weaker endgame.

The most common Archer builds for SoS Japan are 2:1 POW / MEN. Stop at 20 MEN, which will give you 10 Crit and 10 Skill crit. This combined with item shop, will give you 20 crit, and will up your damage over time (especially in pvp) by about 15% over going pure power.

Limes
10-15-2007, 05:19 PM
Weapons/Armor/Accesories/Arrows

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(Not much for equips in CB but... I'll list what's there anyway)

Bows, when upgraded to +1, gain 0.1 attack speed decrease, and +2 attack per upgrade level.

Armor, when upgraded gains +2 defense per upgrade level.

Shoes, when upgraded to +1, gain +1 movement speed increase.

Both armor and weapons increase in level requirement when upgraded to/past +3.
(Exact details unknown.)
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Archer
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--Farewell Set / Bow of Archer--
(Level 38-44)

Shoes:
DEF-14
WT-28
LVL-38
Cost: 2,660 Kron

Gloves:
DEF-16
WT-29
LVL-39
Cost: 2,600 Kron

Helmet:
DEF-18
WT-34
LVL-43
Cost: 6,300 Kron

Armor:
DEF-22
WT-62
LVL-44
Cost: 10,860 Kron

Bow:
ATK-38
WT-37
LVL-43
Cost: 12,500 Kron
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--Well Set / Bow of Good Hit--
(Level 48-54)

Shoes:
DEF-18
WT-31
LVL-48
Cost: 3,550 Kron

Gloves:
DEF-20
WT-32
LVL-49
Cost: 3,500 Kron

Helmet:
DEF-22
WT-39
LVL-53
Cost: 8,500 Kron

Armor:
DEF-26
WT-68
LVL-54
Cost: 14,900 Kron

Bow:
ATK-49
WT-41
LVL-53
Cost: 15,850 Kron
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--Discovery Set / Bow of ?????--
(Level 59-??)

Shoes:
DEF-22
WT-32
LVL-59
Cost: 4,200 Kron

Gloves:
DEF-24
WT-33
LVL-60
Cost: 4,200 Kron

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Scouter
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Unknown
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Sagittarius / Sager Terriors
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Unknown
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Accessories

Robin's Anklet:
AGI-1
WT-1
LVL-45
Cost: N/A
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Arrows

Wooden Arrow:
ATK-0
WT-0.01
Cost: 1 Kron

Solid Steel Arrow:
ATK-2
WT-0.03
Cost: 4 Kron

Limes
10-15-2007, 05:20 PM
Skills

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(Skills are shown in order, left to right)

Archers DO NOT carry over there Rogue skills, you will lose them ALL!
So don't worry about keeping Rogue skill books for level 46+
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Archer
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--Wind Blow--

-Level 1: L45 Required
-Level 2: L66 Required
-Level 3: L86 Required
-Level 4: L106 Required
-Level 5: L126 Required
-Level M: L146 Required

This is your typical damage dealing attack, hits quite high and often lands critical hits paired with Falcon's Eye.

-Level 1: MP Cost- 4, Damage Bonus: Unknown
-Level 2:Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level 4:Unknown
-Level 5:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Gnome Binding--

-Level 1: L45 Required
-Level 2: L66 Required
-Level 3: L86 Required
-Level 4: L106 Required
-Level 5: L126 Required
-Level M: L146 Required

This is almost identical to Magic Ice with its slowing effect, however it can stack with Magic Ice, slowing a monster even further. It tends to last 4-5 Wind Blows before requiring a recast.

Level 1: Mp Cost-7, Movement Speed Down- Unknown, Effect Time- Unknown (5 Wind Blows?) Cooldown- 3 seconds
-Level 2: Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level 4:Unknown
-Level 5:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Sypon--

-Level M: L45 Required

This skill does a poison like effect that drains both HP and MP.
(Cannot confirm the MP effect yet. Quite sure it works from what I've seen.)
It's not terribly useful during PvM, but very effective in PvP.

-Level M: Mp Cost- 8, MP Drain- Unknown, HP Drain- Unknown, Effect Time- Unknown (9 Wind Blows?) Cooldown- 10 seconds
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--Falcon's Eye--

-Level 1: L46 Required
-Level 2: L71 Required
-Level 3: L96 Required
-Level 4: L121 Required
-Level M: L146 Required

A buff that boosts your skill critical rate. Always useful.

Requires x1 -Symbol of Wind- per cast.
Found at any general shop for 100 Kron.

-Level 1: Mp Cost- 8, Effect Time- 3 Minutes, Skill Critical Bonus- 5%
-Level 2: Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level 4:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Parasite--

-Level 1: L51 Required (In-game skill tree says both 51 and 46, needs a fix)
-Level M: Unknown (In-game skill tree says 61... seems fishy?)

This skill fires a quick AOE effect over targeted area, revealing any invisible enemies that are within the effect range. It does not have any cool down, so can be used freely to find your foe, as long as you have the MP to spare.
This skill will work anywhere, on any Rogue. It will even will work on party members.

-Level 1: MP Cost-7, AOE Range- Unknown
-Level M: Unknown
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The following skills haven't been tested and effects and information are based on in-game description. As such, the descriptions are direct quotes.
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--Poison Arrow--

-Level 1: L56 Required
-Level 2: L76 Required
-Level 3: L96 Required
-Level 4: L116 Required
-Level M: L136 Required

"Cause constant poison damage on target with poisoned arrow.
Effect varies as skill level."

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level 2: Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level 4:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Spirtism--

-Level M: L61 Required

"Increase movement speed and agility with the power of spirit. When attacked, buff disappears and movement speed is decreased as side effect."

Requires x1 -Symbol of Soul- per cast.
Found at any general shop for 100 Kron.

-Level M: Unknown
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--Bramble Way--

-Level M: L66 Required

"Decrease movement speed of enemies within certain range."

-Level M: Unknown (Requires 5 arrows?)
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--Radical Trap---

-Level 1: L71 Required
-Level 2: L96 Required
-Level 3: L121 Required
-Level M: L146 Required

"With the power of land and forest, attack "nemies" within the range.
Consumes many arrows but causes serious damage."
("nemies"? eheheh.. ^^; )

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level 2:Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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Scouter
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--Phantom Arrow---

-Level 1: L81 Required
-Level 2: L101 Required
-Level 3: L121 Required
-Level M: L141 Required

"Shoot energy of land instead of arrow. Victim loses HP when hit by the energy."
(Doesn't require/use up arrows?)

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level 2:Unknown
-Level 3:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Stone Edge---

-Level M: L86 Required

"Petrify the target. However the target's ability can change after recovery due to side effect. Debuff cannot be overlapped."

-Level M:Unknown
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--Snake Shot---

-Level 1: L91 Required
-Level 2: L111 Required
-Level M: L131 Required

"Can target into delusion with poison arrow. Victim becomes idle. Effect varies as Skill Level."

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level 2:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Mark Point---

-Level 1: L101 Required
-Level 2: L121 Required
-Level M: L141 Required

"Spot enemies weak point and throw a powerful shot. It knocks (out?) the target temporarily, but the target wakes up when attacked."

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level 2:Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Arrow Rampage---

-Level 1: L111 Required
-Level M: L136 Required

"Shoot a pile of arrows to the target area. Has higher damage and longer range, but consumes more arr(r)ows and MP."
(Consumes more -r-'s too.)

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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Sagittarius / Sager Terriors
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(For some reason, this class is named Sagittarius in the skill tree, yet skills/skill books call it Sager Terriors?)

--Sniper Shot---

-Level 1: L121 Required
-Level M: L146 Required

"A skill that requires energy from all over the body. Has a higher critical rate then other skills. Effects varies as skill level."

-Level 1: Unknown
-Level M:Unknown
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--Overtrick---

-Level M: L126 Required

"Breaks target's defense. The target loses defense each time of being damaged."
(Huh? Dealing damage causes "more" defense loss? O_o; )

-Level M:Unknown
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--Last Judgement---

-Level M: L136 Required

"Shoot the target multiple times at once."

-Level M:Unknown
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Limes
10-15-2007, 05:20 PM
PvP

(This will be on hold until OB.)


Note that some Archers are more of utility characters in PvP. Sypon spamming healers is the most effective way to kill them.. As they not only will take damage, but will have a hard time healing themselves while spamming mp pots, much less other players.

Limes
10-15-2007, 05:21 PM
Special Thanks

xLance- Build and PvP information.
Rakushune- Reminder on skills requiring items.
You- For taking the time to read this guide.
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---Thanks guys for your positive comments on this guide, and I'll continue to keep expanding it the best I can. Also, any information / suggestions are greatly appreciated ^^

Rakushune
10-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Bumping this excellent guide to help other soon to be archers.

Very nice of you to help new people with this Jade, I haven't forgotten our chats when I was contemplating going archer or not as well.

One correction though, I don't think you mentioned the item that you need to be able to use Falcon Eye(I forget the name of the item).

It uses up the item everytime you use the skill, much like a Rogue's Invisible skill.

Looking forward to your PvP guide, I'm going to guess that we're going to have to put in some points into Men to increase our Hit rating but as you said, it'd be best to wait till the arenas are open.

lumino6
10-15-2007, 07:30 PM
Nice guide, it'll help me on my archer in Open Beta :P
Not any archer for now though, so keep scouting for more info ^^

Limes
10-15-2007, 08:36 PM
Bumping this excellent guide to help other soon to be archers.

Very nice of you to help new people with this Jade, I haven't forgotten our chats when I was contemplating going archer or not as well.

One correction though, I don't think you mentioned the item that you need to be able to use Falcon Eye(I forget the name of the item).

It uses up the item everytime you use the skill, much like a Rogue's Invisible skill.

Looking forward to your PvP guide, I'm going to guess that we're going to have to put in some points into Men to increase our Hit rating but as you said, it'd be best to wait till the arenas are open.

Thanks, I forgot to mention the item requirements for some skills. :)
(Also... I noticed notepad decided to destroy some quoted text while copying/pasting, gotta fix that too :()

Cadexn
10-15-2007, 08:41 PM
very nice guide, greatly appreciated. rep point for you :)

Limes
10-18-2007, 01:16 AM
I'm not terribly fond of bumping my own threads... but, I rather not see this go to waste.

hippychibi
10-18-2007, 02:10 AM
Hey Limes, do you know who did good in the Archer PVP?
It was you man.
And wasn't the afterwards free for all fun? I think I might have hit you once to twice and ran off. I was just tapping everyone. ^_^

kimtekz
10-19-2007, 04:13 AM
awesome guide thanks!

dracys
10-19-2007, 11:32 AM
nice guide jade. Man you haven't been on in like forever =( btw its me Aerka

Limes
10-19-2007, 02:54 PM
Update: Added information on Stat Points and Builds

Been playing Fiesta next door... but, I'll try to make it to events and such. :)

kishua
10-20-2007, 01:56 AM
possible to recommend how to allocate stats from thief to archer? having a bit of a problem balancing agi and pow

Limes
10-20-2007, 09:53 AM
I went full agi the entire way, and was in a party for most of it too.
But, I think the trick is to get enough points so you have a decent dodge stat (20-25 with doping?), and dump the rest of points for damage/weight.

I'll write something up when I re-level during OB.

kishua
10-20-2007, 07:11 PM
hmm alright. thanks

think ill go for 3 agi 1 str cycle :D

sukaru1
10-20-2007, 08:21 PM
yes but if you just go pure agi by level 35 youll have 30 dodge total with doping and .4 attack speed witch means youll be able to level up on monsters 5 ta 7 levels higher then you and they give like 3% per kill youll level up from 35 ta 45 in no time if you are wanting to be archer i wouldnt recomend str beacuse you dodge about 4/5 attacks so you wont use much pots i know i only use 75 pots of red and 50 of blue per level thats not that bad so just go pure agi till archer also
i would like to put this build in that some people used in xen epic

pow men all pow 20 men

agi men all agi 20 men

pure agi very rare beacuse it is harder to level since archers only get 1 attack per 3 agi in stead of 1-1 like a rouge

pow agi not as fast as a pure agi but alot stronger you have about .3 or 4 less attack speed depending on equips but you do about 25 30 more damage

this is based off of my friends archer in xenepic

Stragy
10-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Wow long nice good guide. helped a lot.

Acidic
10-20-2007, 08:29 PM
yes but if you just go pure agi by level 35 youll have 30 dodge total with doping and .4 attack speed witch means youll be able to level up on monsters 5 ta 7 levels higher then you and they give like 3% per kill youll level up from 35 ta 45 in no time if you are wanting to be archer i wouldnt recomend str beacuse you dodge about 4/5 attacks so you wont use much pots i know i only use 75 pots of red and 50 of blue per level thats not that bad so just go pure agi till archer also
i would like to put this build in that some people used in xen epic

pow men all pow 20 men

agi men all agi 20 men

pure agi very rare beacuse it is harder to level since archers only get 1 attack per 3 agi in stead of 1-1 like a rouge

pow agi not as fast as a pure agi but alot stronger you have about .3 or 4 less attack speed depending on equips but you do about 25 30 more damage

this is based off of my friends archer in xenepic

Stop giving people bad advice.

Power is rediculously better for Archers, ESPECIALLY for PvE. Doesnt matter if your dodge is 30, or 6000, your a RANGED CLASS. If you let the monster get close to you, you deserve to die

And having 30 dodge, does NOT make you dodge 4/5 attacks. It make's you dodge 30% of attacks. Exactly 1.5/5.

SilentKill
10-20-2007, 09:30 PM
I LIKE IT..and im planing to be an archer ..plzz keep the guides coming!! NICE

sukaru1
10-20-2007, 11:42 PM
acidic im just going to ignore your posts from now on as you obviously just saw my post and decided im going to flame this those are builds that people use and the agi build is not beacuse of dodge the agi build is for more speed sorry but i have 20 dodge and when i use doping i have 31 dodge beacuse i have shield that gives +1 and i miss usually 4 outta 5 attacks from monsters also when a monster does 1 damage or 2 daamge instead of its normal damage thats a bug in the game where you shoulda not recived damage you should have actually seen a miss instead

Acidic
10-20-2007, 11:47 PM
acidic im just going to ignore your posts from now on as you obviously just saw my post and decided im going to flame this those are builds that people use and the agi build is not beacuse of dodge the agi build is for more speed sorry but i have 20 dodge and when i use doping i have 31 dodge beacuse i have shield that gives +1 and i miss usually 4 outta 5 attacks from monsters also when a monster does 1 damage or 2 daamge instead of its normal damage thats a bug in the game where you shoulda not recived damage you should have actually seen a miss instead

Your STUPID.


If your attack speed is 1.0, and you do 500 damage, or if you attack speed is .1 and you do 50 damage, You do the same damage.

But when you add in Skill damage and Power's affect, you start doing almost DOUBLE the damage you would do with regular hit's and skill's from a all AGI build.

And you dont have 80% dodge. That would be 4/5 attacks. Your really stupid... Logic has no affect on you apparantly.

sukaru1
10-21-2007, 12:51 AM
wow getting mad i see sorry but i have a rouge currently level 37 and i dodge 4 outta 5 attacks unless your me you cant say **** sorry

Acidic
10-21-2007, 04:05 AM
wow getting mad i see sorry but i have a rouge currently level 37 and i dodge 4 outta 5 attacks unless your me you cant say **** sorry

Sure I can... Your seriously mentally ill if you think you dodge 80% of the attacks.

kishua
10-21-2007, 06:01 AM
owch flame war lets keep it down gents.

lvling is getting tough..feeling like pumping str for my rogue soon =/

Limes
10-21-2007, 11:05 PM
sukaru1, you have a very poor reputation on these forms, and have caused great deal of flaming and hate.

I'm going to be very blunt about this.

Unless you can obtain some VERY solid proof that your "builds" will work on THIS VERSION of Secret of the Solstice, and can post that information with a READABLE level of grammar and spelling, then your welcome to do so.

Otherwise DO NOT post here.

There are MUCH to many differences between this version and the Japanese version.

So instead of bashing my guide with your "friends" information, go download Fraps, level yourself to 100, and PROVE that those builds will work in THIS version.

If your posts aren't related to an apology or finding proof, then I ask everyone to please ignore them and do not flame him or post a reply to him.

sukaru1
10-21-2007, 11:45 PM
i did not bash your guide if you read i just posted some builds that people use on xen epic just to give peole something els to try other then the pow men cuse there is more then one build for each class

sukaru1
10-21-2007, 11:48 PM
and btw i do not have a bad reputation if you some how thought my builds suggestion was bashing then you need some help

Wacko
10-22-2007, 03:54 AM
....i wonder how they made chocolate (COMPLETELY OFF SUBJECT LOL)

mayuga
11-12-2007, 06:02 AM
i just would like to ask. if your going for pvp againts a high agi fellon would a 20 men be enough to hit him till he dies?

BlackImpact
01-06-2008, 12:09 AM
so 3power 1 men good or pure pow good?