New Class Super Xen!

[rckeintaro]

I know some people sure like making novices on many games to really high levels. So why not let the novice class advance into a Super Xen! (Adventure?)

Any thoughts on this idea? Post it here! :)

[lordteirm]

they would need to make better armor and weps that would fit them instead of like better armor for the specific classes. stuff that is used by all the classes maybe.

[hippychibi]

I'd like that. It'd be the generic class you can do anything with. It would be awesome.

[Hackz]

Yes, a super novice would be fine. it would help those who are bored have some meaning, and it would be a class with diversity. A good idea

[sukaru1]

you got this idea from ragnarok so dont even say you didint i dont think it would be good for this game for 1 then super xen would be magerly over powerd beacuse he could have the strongest skills of each class so he could heal and buff him self like an aco raise his defense and attack like a fighter use magic from far away like a magician go invisible and dodge like a rouge use a bow from far like a archer and so on so i dont think it would be good in this game it works in ragnarok be cuse the 1st classes in ragnarok are so weak compared to the second classes but in this game it wouldnt work seeing as how the first classes have so many good skills i think if they were to make a super xen class it should have its own skills and not be able to learn skills from all classes

[Faultless]

Yeah I think having a "super xen" would lead to a class being OPd. Thats like having an "Average" class that isn't average... a class with more benefits/abilities than equally enstated disadvantages/limits.:cool:

[Hackz]

you got this idea from ragnarok so dont even say you didint i dont think it would be good for this game for 1 then super xen would be magerly over powerd beacuse he could have the strongest skills of each class so he could heal and buff him self like an aco raise his defense and attack like a fighter use magic from far away like a magician go invisible and dodge like a rouge use a bow from far like a archer and so on so i dont think it would be good in this game it works in ragnarok be cuse the 1st classes in ragnarok are so weak compared to the second classes but in this game it wouldnt work seeing as how the first classes have so many good skills i think if they were to make a super xen class it should have its own skills and not be able to learn skills from all classes

It doesn't have to have the strongest skills of each class. Just SOME of them. Ragnarok wasn't "original" with this idea, either. Plenty of games have super novice's.

[Sausuke]

How The Heck Do you get On Here

[rckeintaro]

you got this idea from ragnarok so dont even say you didint i dont think it would be good for this game for 1 then super xen would be magerly over powerd beacuse he could have the strongest skills of each class so he could heal and buff him self like an aco raise his defense and attack like a fighter use magic from far away like a magician go invisible and dodge like a rouge use a bow from far like a archer and so on so i dont think it would be good in this game it works in ragnarok be cuse the 1st classes in ragnarok are so weak compared to the second classes but in this game it wouldnt work seeing as how the first classes have so many good skills i think if they were to make a super xen class it should have its own skills and not be able to learn skills from all classes

Who said they would get all the 1st skills? THIS GAME IS NOT RAGNAROK. You FAIL to NOTICE that this is SECRET OF SOLSTICE! Why do you think they would completely copy something. Also, in no where did it state that they would have all the 1st class skills. All I said was that people tend to make something of novice for fun, so why not make a Super Xen.

Oh and don't even get me started on RO. You don't even know anything about RO. In RO you know there are skills only that are given to Super Novice, which were to Play Dead and such (Able to keep when a Super Novice). Which is why it was so fun using them. In RO Super Novices are deadly, just that they have low hp. They can spam magic just like a Wizards making them quick agile and deadly. You surely never faced a Veteran player. Example? Spam thunder bolt with agi up , bless, and lets not forget the awsome bonus they get for their equips. So added with cards you got speed and magic power. They can even out run a Assassin with moonlight card WITH A CART!

As for your statement of 1st Classes are weaker then 2nd classes. Your statement is wrong. Completely wrong. You surely never played a PVP server. A 1st class sure has its semi disadvantage (Due to skills), but with the right equips they can kill anyone just about the same!

You also, don't even know THIS GAME either YOU FAIL. You said "use a bow from far like a archer". Sorry, but thats another class lvl at 45. You fail and even RO super novice can never use a bow. So before anything comes out of your mouth again. Get your facts straight.

Also as everyone stated. Use punctuations! At least a period! So it can be read a bit more easy, then a run on sentence. Even i'm not perfect, but i'll try.

[Valek25]

I voted, yes lets poke everything to death.....why you may ask....cause i can just imagine a small kid poking a giant beast with a stick, doing the ya-ta sign, then getting savagely killed by it.

evil, pure evil, muahahahahhaa :D:D:D:D

[hippychibi]

I'm actually working on making a high level Xen right now. Sure I won't have any gear or skills but it'll be fun and funny. ^_^
Please can this thread not become a flame thread. We are just expressing ideas. If you feel someone is wrong, just say "I disagree and here's why." Even if someone flames you, calm down, and post a thoughtful responce.
You know, please.

[Fadigre]

I'm not sure how relevent this is.
I didn't play this Ragnarok that you speak, I'm from FFXI :o
But from what I gather what your saying is that you want somthing that would be considered a Red Mage, or at least in my Terminology. Red Mage had the Benefits of doing a large majority of the other skills from other jobs, when I say other jobs I pretty much just mean Black Mage and White...
The Ability that made Tanks good on that game was their ability to Provoke, to keep the Mob on them, Red Mage couldn't do this.
Thief could use various abilities to cause large amounts of damage, along with passing the hate generated onto the Tank, Red Mage could not do this.
Monk was a basic Damage Dealer, which only had abilities that boosted it's Attack, accuracy Etc (Warrior had these too) Red Mage did not get this.
Out of all the Melee Jobs Red Mage only took on one Aspect, it's ability to Weild a Sword.
On the other hand it did Learn large proportion of the White and Black Magic Spells, just at a far later date, such as Cure being level one for White Mage, and level 5 for Red, which as the later levels kicked in you could really notice the difference. As for Black Magic, Red Mage learned those late too, but had such a Low Intelegence stat it wasn't worth Wasting MP with.
They also had lower stats then everyone else, making all of them avaerge with no spike, such as Monk having high Strength and low Agility.
So why be a Red Mage? They had spells which no one else had, such as Gravity which slowed the mobs movement speed. Refresh which slowly recovered MP on the Target, and Dispel, removing positive status effects.

Yeah, as I said, I'm not sure if its THAT relevent
But I'd like it...

[darren62]

Lol.. Super novice.. Read it somewhere from maple****. Actually there's no real need for a new class upgrade.. Just get the best eq / itemz that you can use for Xen and then your all set for Super novice =D

[rckeintaro]

Let the army of Super Xen Rise and poke everything to death! :D

[Acidic]

Just so you ALL KNOW....

Xenians get more skills then just the 1. They also are capable of leveling well into there 100's.

They also have there own set's of gear, just like fighter or rogue would.

[fgoober]

u suck bich

[Valek25]

@fgoober

wow, that retort must have exhausted your brain, do you want some juice and crackers, i know it really mustve worn you out to make a three worded attempt at a retort. Not even spelled properly either, wow, i mean....id say that you were dropped a minimum of 5 times as a baby?

cmon, "you suck bich". I mean saying "your views are underrated and they stink" would show more intelligence, but if youre going for the de-de-de angle, so be it.

[sukaru1]

Who said they would get all the 1st skills? THIS GAME IS NOT RAGNAROK. You FAIL to NOTICE that this is SECRET OF SOLSTICE! Why do you think they would completely copy something. Also, in no where did it state that they would have all the 1st class skills. All I said was that people tend to make something of novice for fun, so why not make a Super Xen.

Oh and don't even get me started on RO. You don't even know anything about RO. In RO you know there are skills only that are given to Super Novice, which were to Play Dead and such (Able to keep when a Super Novice). Which is why it was so fun using them. In RO Super Novices are deadly, just that they have low hp. They can spam magic just like a Wizards making them quick agile and deadly. You surely never faced a Veteran player. Example? Spam thunder bolt with agi up , bless, and lets not forget the awsome bonus they get for their equips. So added with cards you got speed and magic power. They can even out run a Assassin with moonlight card WITH A CART!

As for your statement of 1st Classes are weaker then 2nd classes. Your statement is wrong. Completely wrong. You surely never played a PVP server. A 1st class sure has its semi disadvantage (Due to skills), but with the right equips they can kill anyone just about the same!

You also, don't even know THIS GAME either YOU FAIL. You said "use a bow from far like a archer". Sorry, but thats another class lvl at 45. You fail and even RO super novice can never use a bow. So before anything comes out of your mouth again. Get your facts straight.

Also as everyone stated. Use punctuations! At least a period! So it can be read a bit more easy, then a run on sentence. Even i'm not perfect, but i'll try.

lol shut the f*** up you b**** i played ro for 2 years from 13 till now beacuse of solstice i had a level 81 paladin i know all that **** i also know thata super novice sucks against other classes unless he has uber equips witch only some players have due to the lack of life they have also dont tell me about that **** with 1 class can beat 2nd class watch level 99 1st vs lvl 99 second even if second class has low rate gears at that level it dosent matter what gears the first has he will die beacuse all weapons basically after lvl 66 are for 2nd and up only so dont tell me i dont know anything you little b****

[faytx1]

...What a moroon.

[rckeintaro]

lol shut the f*** up you b**** i played ro for 2 years from 13 till now beacuse of solstice i had a level 81 paladin i know all that **** i also know thata super novice sucks against other classes unless he has uber equips witch only some players have due to the lack of life they have also dont tell me about that **** with 1 class can beat 2nd class watch level 99 1st vs lvl 99 second even if second class has low rate gears at that level it dosent matter what gears the first has he will die beacuse all weapons basically after lvl 66 are for 2nd and up only so dont tell me i dont know anything you little b****

Haha, Thank you for clearing it all up to EVERYONE on the Forums that your are a little immature 13 year old kid. Your too young to even understand the advance things in RO. Level 81 Paladin? Whats the point in even saying your level here? I mean I could say oh lvl 255 XSin in other servers.

You still don't understand. The most over powered class in RO is the wizard. Due to the ability to spam magic, they can rack damage and you are unable to move. So therefor with a super novice being able to do the same but better. Though im not saying they are not stoppable, an Sniper can take them down by range and spamming DS or basically anyone with a GTB.

You don't even know ANYTHING about gears. All the high level weapons/armors (For High lvl 2nd class gears) don't even have SLOTS in them. Slots = Important = CARDS. So little kid, there's no point of you retorting back with your little fits when you highly don't understand a MMORPG. For you to say people who obtain uber gears must have no life. You must be one of them for you would strive ever so hard to become the strongest but FAIL. So then you would like to make yourself feel better by telling yourself they have no life.

As I stated before YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING! and FAIL IN LIFE.

Please do something better with your life, like study at school and strive to go to college.

[hippychibi]

Nice or ignore the hippy, either way works. -sigh-

[Acidic]

lol shut the f*** up you b**** i played ro for 2 years from 13 till now beacuse of solstice i had a level 81 paladin i know all that **** i also know thata super novice sucks against other classes unless he has uber equips witch only some players have due to the lack of life they have also dont tell me about that **** with 1 class can beat 2nd class watch level 99 1st vs lvl 99 second even if second class has low rate gears at that level it dosent matter what gears the first has he will die beacuse all weapons basically after lvl 66 are for 2nd and up only so dont tell me i dont know anything you little b****

Sukaru1, You dont know anything about any game. Why do you try so hard to have like 3 people believe you.

Ive proven you wrong, 20 times over. And you still havent learned how to use the Enter key, or the Period key.

[rckeintaro]

Just so you ALL KNOW....

Xenians get more skills then just the 1. They also are capable of leveling well into there 100's.

They also have there own set's of gear, just like fighter or rogue would.

How do you know of this? Any where to show this? Post a link or something?

[Acidic]

How do you know of this? Any where to show this? Post a link or something?

Either the Japan or Korean wiki.

[Filthee]

I'm guessing this game is like it's predecessors and has skill/stat allocation. Even if you were able to create a super novice, stats and skills would be severely gimped if you spread out to gain other job/class skills. Not mention the job/class bonus' you would be missing out on.

[Ryoshiro]

lol shut the f*** up you b**** i played ro for 2 years from 13 till now beacuse of solstice i had a level 81 paladin i know all that **** i also know thata super novice sucks against other classes unless he has uber equips witch only some players have due to the lack of life they have also dont tell me about that **** with 1 class can beat 2nd class watch level 99 1st vs lvl 99 second even if second class has low rate gears at that level it dosent matter what gears the first has he will die beacuse all weapons basically after lvl 66 are for 2nd and up only so dont tell me i dont know anything you little b****

You know.. you are freaking annoying lil 11years old egoing kid. Get a life. You dunno anything about RO. K Thx Bai.

If I'm 13, you are like 11, because even I can type more perfectly than you. You typing is like trash from kids.

[Jeremy23000]

I always assumed there would be an advanced Xenian (as was posted above there probably is going to be if it's in the Korean version). Also, if you talk to the skill book seller to see your skill list as a Xenian he kind of leads you to believe there will be an advanced Xenian class. It makes sense too since you get an exp bonus for having a Xenian in your party :) It'd be hard in the 100s to party if you needed to be with a level 1-16 xenian for the exp bonus :)

[Redbear6]

Yeah, getting an additional 10%xp for having the xenian in the party is well worth it, But I can just see them becoming (and hoping for serious forgiveness from Aaron Williams) Nodwicks. People who are lugged around for the bonus, as mules, or to keep damage off of the other players. there probably will be a few people who will send one of their characters down this path, if for no other reason than to help out their friends with a xp generator.

[slayernk]

when I first started playing and was reading everything the npc had to say. He stated that xens at one time where rumored to have more then one skill and more then 2 sets of gear, (novice and immaturity set) I think the only reason they lead you to believe in that is because in some text chat they never went back to fix any of the grammer/typo errors they made

also on another note RDM was one of the most powerful PVP, PVE class in final fantasy Rdm/nin could solo just about anything. So SE decided it was unfair that a single player could do this and created the rage factor (monster becomes more and more powerful the longer its alive) even so Rdm/nin still could easily kill anyone in pvp, gear wasnt even that huge of a factor for them. melee class gravity Dot kite. caster silence and sleep nuke. Even if a player was to reach you had utsusemi ichi/san which absorbs both magic and phys attacks. not including if u have stoneskin up which aborbs up to a certain amount of dmg (depending on total Mnd normally about 300-400dmg) and then to kill ninja diaga to remove all of his shadows, silence and kite easy mode :O but yea just wanted to point that out :P has nothing to do the super Xen class which i think would be pretty interesting to have them bring the idea to life.

[slynth24]

I think this super xen idea is good! It's funny running around and people go,"Noob!" and then you turn around and say,"Look at me level, noob" cause they have a level 12 magican and you have a level 40 super xen and they think you're a noob because of you're clothes. :D

[Trashknight]

I think this super xen idea is good! It's funny running around and people go,"Noob!" and then you turn around and say,"Look at me level, noob" cause they have a level 12 magican and you have a level 40 super xen and they think you're a noob because of you're clothes. :D

1. Minimum level for magician: Level 16, unless someone is very, very, very bad at the game.

2. The "Super Xenian" would be executed weak in comparison with other classes if it went something in the likes of RO, as here you more or less specialize in one stat and pump one third-to maximum half in one other stat.

The only really threatening kind would be a "Super Xenian" who could cross Acolyte and Magician, as they both benefit from INT.(Rogues benefits from AGI, Fighters POW and Predictors POW and STA.)

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Monda- Predictor lv 51
Leuda- Fighter lv 23
Tosda- Magician lv 21

[demodragon375]

yeah y not. im just gonna be new but i dont see y there shouldnt be one. if ppl wanna specialize in nothing but be blah in everything like ive seen novices be in other games, thats fine.

[RoxasV3]

Back to the subject...

Super Xen would be cool.
What skills would he learn, though? That seems to be a problem that people want answered on this topic.

Also, just had an idea.
When you hit a certain level in your class, it'd be pretty cool to change your class into another one, and creating a hybrid class.
Like a Paladin would have to be a lvl. 50 Warrior 1st, then change to a lvl. 1 Acolyte.
Or a Hitman would have to be a Archer, then change to a lvl. 1 Mage.

Anyone think this would be interesting?

[Xiiaa]

This is not a good idea at all! Anyone who has ever had a druid in wow knows what im saying. The caster druids were so underpowered it was insane, but because they could heal and turn into warriors and rogues (Which is completly useless unless you build your character up for it) the programmers were so avoiding (I cant find the word im looking for) to update and fix the caster druids major issues. They were bad raiders, pvpers, they were ok at pveing but everyone avoided inviting them because they had no cc (Crowd control) or aoe (area of affect). Sorry for the rant but its not a good idea ; it would be easy to make super xens overpowered or underpowered, but hard to make them equal to other classes.

[Xiiaa]

lol shut the f*** up you b**** i played ro for 2 years from 13 till now beacuse of solstice i had a level 81 paladin i know all that **** i also know thata super novice sucks against other classes unless he has uber equips witch only some players have due to the lack of life they have also dont tell me about that **** with 1 class can beat 2nd class watch level 99 1st vs lvl 99 second even if second class has low rate gears at that level it dosent matter what gears the first has he will die beacuse all weapons basically after lvl 66 are for 2nd and up only so dont tell me i dont know anything you little b****


You fail at grammer. I never thought i'd see anyone my age ;nontheless, OLDER THEN ME (you did say you've been playing since 13 right-Cause thats how old I am) with worse grammer then me; aparrently I was wrong. Because you can throw in cusswords, (throw them in wrong I might add) does not make you intelligent. Talk about a ****ing moron.


Now I know why they say stay in school.

[RoxasV3]

Xiiaa, nice. I agree with ya. IS that a semicolon I see? =O

BTW, was you saying that my idea was bad, or the Super Xen idea?

[Xiiaa]

I was saying super xen mixing all classes would create complaints, but yours isnt that bad I dont think as long as the skills turn out weaker then the dominant class. Also I dont know if I used punctiation properly lol; Im learning about complex sentences and compound in class, and since I use them alot wanted to make sure I could say it properly.

[RoxasV3]

Oh, you used it right. The amazing thing is that you actually used one. =D
And yeah, I agree. Super Xen might be a crazy powerhouse. Doping+Fist Up+Bless+Accuracy+Over Burn=DEATH.
I see what ya mean.

[Trashknight]

Oh, you used it right. The amazing thing is that you actually used one. =D
And yeah, I agree. Super Xen might be a crazy powerhouse. Doping+Fist Up+Bless+Accuracy+Over Burn=DEATH.
I see what ya mean.
You must mean a level two(preferably three) or higher on the acolyte skills, as they only give a small boost if this is going to be an upgrade for the freshmen-class.

What the Xenian needs are better sets, skills that supports and perhaps surpasses Xen!, while not turning into something that could rival Archers and Fighters, and at the same time not sound like an under-powered Predictor.

Otherwise I don't have any reason to have one in a party when I go dangerous maps, ever. ^_^'

[Zeltar]

class composition gets a bonus +10% if there is a Xenian in the party on top of the 10% from having the 4 main classes.

so having a Xenian could be very popular. if his XP makes less then 10% of the party XP then the rest of the party will actually get more XP by just having a Xenian sitting in the background doing nothing. naturally he'd need to be protected, and could die easily from aggressive monsters. but there is a benefit of having him there doing nothing but increasing the XP bonus.

I'm supprised that more parties arn't requesting a normal new Xenian to follow them around and boost their XP rate.

[Trashknight]

I'm supprised that more parties arn't requesting a normal new Xenian to follow them around and boost their XP rate.

There is a good reason why: They can't go beyond Death Valley due to class-restriction.

Hence the reason why I don't like the Xenian class so much. >_>

[Karth1031]

you got this idea from ragnarok so dont even say you didint i dont think it would be good for this game for 1 then super xen would be magerly over powerd beacuse he could have the strongest skills of each class so he could heal and buff him self like an aco raise his defense and attack like a fighter use magic from far away like a magician go invisible and dodge like a rouge use a bow from far like a archer and so on so i dont think it would be good in this game it works in ragnarok be cuse the 1st classes in ragnarok are so weak compared to the second classes but in this game it wouldnt work seeing as how the first classes have so many good skills i think if they were to make a super xen class it should have its own skills and not be able to learn skills from all classes

im shure they did and no its not a super power its limmited to the basic skills of each class in RO ... Please do research before shoveng a foot in your mouth

[scar3000]

you got this idea from ragnarok so dont even say you didint i dont think it would be good for this game for 1 then super xen would be magerly over powerd beacuse he could have the strongest skills of each class so he could heal and buff him self like an aco raise his defense and attack like a fighter use magic from far away like a magician go invisible and dodge like a rouge use a bow from far like a archer and so on so i dont think it would be good in this game it works in ragnarok be cuse the 1st classes in ragnarok are so weak compared to the second classes but in this game it wouldnt work seeing as how the first classes have so many good skills i think if they were to make a super xen class it should have its own skills and not be able to learn skills from all classes
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[syariff]

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