class balance

[blackguy729]

so the class balance issue is anoying to anyone who has been here for a while and that includs me. i decided to make this thread like a month ago but never got to it. so here it is:

stop looking at the downside!!!!

ITS ANNOYING PPL RANTING:

over powerd fighters
or
stupid archers and their kiting,
clerics and there umlimited healing
and
annoying mages fear

well here are the stupid upsides that non of you n00bs ever think of

clerics
can heal so they can stay alive a long time if they get some hp pots for when they are stuned. second highest m.def so they will probubly last longer agenst a mage onslot then a fighter. second highest def and mp.

fighters
i think all the n00bs know bout their upsides 'caquse they are the ones they complain about most

archers
kiting. without it they are almost useless so thats why they would have it. second highest hp(high lvl archer plz comferm). this is off the shadow quest, my archer shadow had more hp then my cleric shadow and i know mages have the lowest. mist, AoE ad Dot, what more can you ask for. highest dex. i beat fighters with my dex:str 3:1 build cause i dont miss and they cant hit.

mage
need more expert opinion on this. inferno and nove. sure at lvl 6x but it is worth it. they look awsome and if your in pvp some dude could walk by and take a damage and if they are abput to die thats better(dont use on the n00bs, they will start complaining). all that mp. im fighting a mage on the run and he almost kills me 'cause he has so much mp he never runs out.

this is a message(or rant what ever blows your hair back) to n00bs with a simple mesage:

shut up :mad: and look at the bright side

ps: dont start poasting the downsides or how they might out way the upsides

pss: comfermation from high lvl archer and mage help(i aint got one x_x)

[safe_haven]

Any form of n00b is kind of rude,it seems as you're implying it to all of us.And second shut up is not a nice word.But other than that,this seems interesting =] People might actually agree,if you could just be a teeee little more nicer.This thread is nice,it point things out to others.

[zues8844]

so the class balance issue is anoying to anyone who has been here for a while and that includs me. i decided to make this thread like a month ago but never got to it. so here it is:

stop looking at the downside!!!!

ITS ANNOYING PPL RANTING:

over powerd fighters
or
stupid archers and their kiting,
clerics and there umlimited healing
and
annoying mages fear


People who say this are indeed stupid. Thought it is true fighters are currently overpowered, archers are MEANT to kite, if there's an archer that doesn't know how to, he can gtfo and go die in a hole, 'cuz that's how archers fight.

Clerics don't have unlimited healing. My brother is taken down by any class his level, and he has lots of godly +9's. Learn to play your character, derka derka?

Oh yes, take away the mage's fear. In fact, let's also take away their ability to use ranged abillities, they don't need 'em. HONESTLY -.-



well here are the stupid upsides that non of you n00bs ever think of

clerics
can heal so they can stay alive a long time if they get some hp pots for when they are stuned. second highest m.def so they will probubly last longer agenst a mage onslot then a fighter. second highest def and mp.

fighters
i think all the n00bs know bout their upsides 'caquse they are the ones they complain about most

archers
kiting. without it they are almost useless so thats why they would have it. second highest hp(high lvl archer plz comferm). this is off the shadow quest, my archer shadow had more hp then my cleric shadow and i know mages have the lowest. mist, AoE ad Dot, what more can you ask for. highest dex. i beat fighters with my dex:str 3:1 build cause i dont miss and they cant hit.

mage
need more expert opinion on this. inferno and nove. sure at lvl 6x but it is worth it. they look awsome and if your in pvp some dude could walk by and take a damage and if they are abput to die thats better(dont use on the n00bs, they will start complaining). all that mp. im fighting a mage on the run and he almost kills me 'cause he has so much mp he never runs out.

this is a message(or rant what ever blows your hair back) to n00bs with a simple mesage:

shut up :mad: and look at the bright side

ps: dont start poasting the downsides or how they might out way the upsides

pss: comfermation from high lvl archer and mage help(i aint got one x_x)

That's honestly all I have to say.

[fxarch]

Clerics don't have unlimited healing. My brother is taken down by any class his level, and he has lots of godly +9's. Learn to play your character, derka derka?
I'll note, since we're talking about class 'Balance'. Clerics are made TO SUPPORT, and in Fiesta support means to be able to take hits without worrying about dying so you can heal your tanker.

Clerics SUCK as a solo class, Even full STR Clerics SUCK as a solo class.
That's why I'm very fond of the 25 Spr/xx END build. It gives you a little boost on Mdef (30 if I'm not mistaken), then the END gives you the HP You NEED, a lot of extra def, and it gives you a very nice amount of shield block rate o:

Hence why cleric Shouldn't PvP Unless it's PvP Kq where they can get the hammer. They stand no chance of killing anyone, unless said person is VERY laggy.
Fighters are meant to have high def, so they do. They're also meant to hit a lot, being FIGHTERS.
Archers have INSANE Amounts of damage, and or they can't be touched by fighters due to their evasion, and they NEVER miss! Plus they have DoTs and Aoes! They have the best of both worlds!





Oh yes, take away the mage's fear. In fact, let's also take away their ability to use ranged abillities, they don't need 'em. HONESTLY -.-

That's honestly all I have to say.


To this, all I can say is:
Sadly, We see it very often now-a-days that Mages are Using Extenders, Charms, Fully +9 gears, and more. When a Mage insists on buffing himself out like this so that he can take the position of 'Tank' Away from the fighters, he should have all his abilities taken away from him.

I see it often, sadly. Mages deciding they NEED to be the MAIN person in the party, they Cry about fighters not taking aggro, Well maybe if you weren't so Dosed out with Cs and charms, THE FIGHTERS COULD HOLD IT BETTER.

And Maybe, Just Maybe We all need to learn our place when we play our separate characters.

I Play a fighter as my main, I'm used to having most of the clerics attention, and having everyone in my party fall in behind me. I'm the Alpha, the lead dog, What we kill depends on what I mob, and so on and so forth.

An hour after that, I go to my archer. I have no call to stay in that position. I'm now a DD I don't tank, I don't heal, I don't mob, and I sure as hell don't get the cleric healing me 24/7, that's for the fighter. I stand in the back, away from the Monsters, and I deal damage, I poison The monsters, I Aoe, I Give that Finishing blow, so the fighter can continue his tanking.

An hour later I go to my cleric. I become the backbone of the Party! I give everyone their Extra Damage, and defense, I keep them all alive, I am SUCH an important asset to the party, and they'd probably be far worse off if I suddenly decide that the fighter needs to mob more, and go out mobbing instead of healing. All that can lead too is my whole party dying.


We all need to learn to fall into our positions, We Cannot Assume since our 'Mains' are better than everyone else, we're top dog, we cannot for even a minute Try to keep in our old role we played in the party.
If people Realized that in a Party situation, they have a roll to play, we'd all be far better off. Kingdom quests would never fail, We'd never die, and We'd all be a lot happier in-game.





Now that I've bored you to death with my off topic wall of text, Bai! *waves*

[blackguy729]

Any form of n00b is kind of rude,it seems as you're implying it to all of us.And second shut up is not a nice word..

its not ment to and i know that shut up is not a nice word(s) but i can be an (you know what i [B]truly mean)


Clerics don't have unlimited healing. My brother is taken down by any class his level, and he has lots of godly +9's. Learn to play your character, derka derka?


i know thay dont. i got cursed out 'cause some fighter said i was cheating 'cause i spamed heal. i told him i had maxed out mp stons and he got even more angry. if he was smart he would use cc and fatel slash before he used the rest of his skills



Clerics SUCK as a solo class

i should have made that vid bout me at lvl 20 soloing king merlon x_x. that would have proven you wrong. anyway, we dont SUCK where just not USUALY that great