what would i have to do to become a gm

[titanmax1]

how do i just curious

[Tylur]

how do i just curious

One, spots are not open for becoming a GM, (or atleast that's my bet.)

If there was, you'd need to be over 18 years old.
You'd have to prove yourself worthy to the current GM's that you could handle the job with care.

If they accepted you, you'd be a GM. Don't count on it, though.

[KireiYosei]

Work for Outspark?

[Tylur]

Work for Outspark?


^



To put it simple..
xD.

I explain myself too much.

[XxStavrosxX]

Also, don't ask.

It MUST be really annoying. . .

[titanmax1]

im not realy asking i was just wondering because if they had more gms there would be less bots faster patches and more good rewarding events

[anarchy_]

how do i just curious

u need qualifications.

[Ceruleagos]

Well, GM's don't do much when it comes to patches. Events and removing gold site spammers from in-game yes, but they are just Game Masters. They focus on things in-game, AKA: punishing exploiters, handling events, banning CGF's, and so forth.

I imagine in order to become a GM or to even be involved in this particuliar game, you'd have to have ample amounts of knowledge regarding:

a) coding
b) customer service
c) a history of doing a & b

And you would have to be a mature individual with lots of free time. Mature as in usually 18 years of age and wouldn't be the first to abuse the privileges. Someone 'underage' can not work for a company, even if it's volunteer work. That and children are more prone to be irresponsible and abuse their powers.

I don't see why most people want to become GM's on games like this though. You end up spending all your time policing the game and never being able to play it. It drains you quickly, especially if you have work/school, and you never get ANY appreciation from the players in-game.

[autumnangel]

Steam has stated that to be a GM you need to be an Outspark employee and also stated that no they were not hiring... Oh well... we can keep hoping lol :)

[anarchy_]

Well, GM's don't do much when it comes to patches. Events and removing gold site spammers from in-game yes, but they are just Game Masters. They focus on things in-game, AKA: punishing exploiters, handling events, banning CGF's, and so forth.

I imagine in order to become a GM or to even be involved in this particuliar game, you'd have to have ample amounts of knowledge regarding:

a) coding
b) customer service
c) a history of doing a & b

And you would have to be a mature individual with lots of free time. Mature as in usually 18 years of age and wouldn't be the first to abuse the privileges. Someone 'underage' can not work for a company, even if it's volunteer work. That and children are more prone to be irresponsible and abuse their powers.

I don't see why most people want to become GM's on games like this though. You end up spending all your time policing the game and never being able to play it. It drains you quickly, especially if you have work/school, and you never get ANY appreciation from the players in-game.

lol there are no 18 year old GM's, especially if a game wants to survive. the position of a GM can be similarly seen as that of a 'manager'. not only competent at over viewing and organising they must be diplomatically eloquent as customer service is the majority of what they deal with. simply large amounts of knowledge isnt enough, you need an attractive looking CV with certified qualifications before anyone will hire ya.

player GM's however are different.

[redassassin]

Well, GM's don't do much when it comes to patches. Events and removing gold site spammers from in-game yes, but they are just Game Masters. They focus on things in-game, AKA: punishing exploiters, handling events, banning CGF's, and so forth.

I imagine in order to become a GM or to even be involved in this particuliar game, you'd have to have ample amounts of knowledge regarding:

a) coding
b) customer service
c) a history of doing a & b

And you would have to be a mature individual with lots of free time. Mature as in usually 18 years of age and wouldn't be the first to abuse the privileges. Someone 'underage' can not work for a company, even if it's volunteer work. That and children are more prone to be irresponsible and abuse their powers.

I don't see why most people want to become GM's on games like this though. You end up spending all your time policing the game and never being able to play it. It drains you quickly, especially if you have work/school, and you never get ANY appreciation from the players in-game.

Hahaha,She is right..you need to have a history of A & B!!
I want to ask you this, Do you intend to playing games for allong time?
trust me, you'll get bored, because I've tried it..I make games too..and it sucks sticking around games for allong time..its difficult dude!
here if you are interested in making RPG games:www.phanxgames.com!:cool:
u'll get the draft!

[titanmax1]

give me another link it dosent work

[ultimatiom]

I really do not think they would put anyone into a GM status so easly. However, there might allow VGM's. VGM (valunter game masters) can do almost the same as a gm but with alot less powers. In all sence, the vgm can help the game run smothly and help report more bugs, exploiters, and bots than a gm would when they are not around.

[Ceruleagos]

lol there are no 18 year old GM's, especially if a game wants to survive. the position of a GM can be similarly seen as that of a 'manager'. not only competent at over viewing and organising they must be diplomatically eloquent as customer service is the majority of what they deal with. simply large amounts of knowledge isnt enough, you need an attractive looking CV with certified qualifications before anyone will hire ya.

player GM's however are different.

I have seen 18 year old GM's, but granted the ones I knew were very intelligent and not the type of script-kiddy to be irresponsible. I can't speak for the type of GM's Outspark currently has, but games that bring in little to no profit tend to overlook young adults if they can prove to hold their own. :) Those type usually have very limited powers though, which is understandable.

[Daigotsu]

Well, GM's don't do much when it comes to patches. Events and removing gold site spammers from in-game yes, but they are just Game Masters. They focus on things in-game, AKA: punishing exploiters, handling events, banning CGF's, and so forth.

I imagine in order to become a GM or to even be involved in this particuliar game, you'd have to have ample amounts of knowledge regarding:

a) coding
b) customer service
c) a history of doing a & b

And you would have to be a mature individual with lots of free time. Mature as in usually 18 years of age and wouldn't be the first to abuse the privileges. Someone 'underage' can not work for a company, even if it's volunteer work. That and children are more prone to be irresponsible and abuse their powers.

I don't see why most people want to become GM's on games like this though. You end up spending all your time policing the game and never being able to play it. It drains you quickly, especially if you have work/school, and you never get ANY appreciation from the players in-game.

Hmm, Outspark is based in the U.S. mainland, right? What if you happened to be based on the other side of the planet? I'm in Southeast Asia... T.T

[ultimatiom]

all that means that it takes longer for everyone else to get the current patch thats out there. its no different than what happens around the world.

[anarchy_]

I have seen 18 year old GM's, but granted the ones I knew were very intelligent and not the type of script-kiddy to be irresponsible. I can't speak for the type of GM's Outspark currently has, but games that bring in little to no profit tend to overlook young adults if they can prove to hold their own. :) Those type usually have very limited powers though, which is understandable.

Could be because its a group of friends setting up a game, or someone that you know well because normally companies dont hire people with no formal qualifications as their customer service representatives.

[Enzio]

Could be because its a group of friends setting up a game, or someone that you know well because normally companies dont hire people with no formal qualifications as their customer service representatives.


How do you get experience and qualifications if companies won't hire you?

[Ceruleagos]

Could be because its a group of friends setting up a game, or someone that you know well because normally companies dont hire people with no formal qualifications as their customer service representatives.

Free MMORPG's is where people get these sort of qualifications for bigger game companies, so they obviously are lenient about who they have on their team. Mostly for the fact that they need a lot of volunteers but only want to pay a few individuals. So 'volunteer GM's, if you can call them that, are in demand. Free labor is always a good thing :p They usually just get to do player relations though. If there's a volunteer with great experience, they will take advantage of it usually. The person may not get full powers right away or any at all, but as time progresses and the game becomes more involved, they usually do get to step up.

And to answer the question above about living in another country, the only thing I can think of is if they need GM's in different time zones to monitor players and be there for them. I doubt there would be a salary ever involved however.


Before it gets asked: Being a GM on a private server to a MMO like Ragnarok Online or World of Warcraft will not count as a qualification. Any one can run a private server :p

[anarchy_]

How do you get experience and qualifications if companies won't hire you?

u go to Uni.

and as Ceruleagos said, volunteerGM'ing.

[titanmax1]

i wish to be a volunteer(i know it wont happen i mean i dont even got an invite to play sos)

[Hydr0]

If u want to be a gm, probably u need to be 18+ and have full knowledge in computers.. how to solve problems and more.
you need to work for Outspark.
in Gunz game they had announment that they hiring gm's.. and wrote this

Desired Qualifications:

- Strong knowledge of ijji.com games
- Strong knowledge of the video game market, especially online multiplayer games
- Passion for games--Be able to learn and master game in a short amount of time
- Excellent writing and communication skills
- Experience in an online game community
- Strong initiative and can-do attitude
- Ability to independently manage and accomplish multiple tasks
- Proficient computer skills (troubleshooting, MS Office products, basic networking, html)


Basic Requirements:

- Age 18 years or older
- High School Diploma or higher
- Fluent in the English Language (written and oral)
- Must be able to commute to our Irvine, CA office on a daily basis. This is not a telecommuting position.


so i guess it's pretty the same.. cuz gm do same job in every games.

[Modmaker]

im 19 and im currently a GM on a pay to play game :). Reason they ask for you to be 18+ is because you have to sign papers stating you wont screw with the servers and so forth. In my case give out information on upcomming events and rp's.

oh and the company is in germany so mine you dont have to "commute"

[Enzio]

ok Volunteer gm'ing I can understand that but going to university to be a gm? ROFL

[FireOpal]

Outspark is in the San Francisco area, and MOST companies want you to be ONSITE while you work (though this one might let you work remotely if you have proven yourself). If you're onsite you're more easily monitored for good/bad behaviour. Steam might actually be a network engineer or sys admin, which is unusual in a GM. For the most part they have nothing to do with systems, just players...

[ultimatiom]

Outspark is in the San Francisco area, and MOST companies want you to be ONSITE while you work (though this one might let you work remotely if you have proven yourself). If you're onsite you're more easily monitored for good/bad behaviour. Steam might actually be a network engineer or sys admin, which is unusual in a GM. For the most part they have nothing to do with systems, just players...
Thats why vgm's (as I have first posted on page 2) is game masters that are free to the companies and they can be removed and replaced if they do something illegal to the game. There are not alot of qualifications to become a vgm but they won't pay money for you working away from the main company. Thats why vgm's are wanted widly cuz they are free and there are alot of cannidates.:D

[KireiYosei]

ok Volunteer gm'ing I can understand that but going to university to be a gm? ROFL

I don't think anyone goes to college to be a GM, its just a fun job they come upon. Lol.

[MissusDolly]

You go to college to get a degree in computers most likely, I would consider that one requirement to run a game at such a level as fiesta is.

The 18+ rule is also there because there are many other legal issues. I was going to mod a forum until the rule was put into place, yes I was disappointed, but I understood that they had to take out really wrong things and deal with legal issues.

[Gravvi]

Well from what you described i could make a good gm. LOL i am 18+ i know basic scripting and i could learn it probably very quickly.(Scripted for a Ragnarok Online server, Was also GM on one) I do my job and do what is right. I am an Art major going ot college. I am going to minor in computer information systems. I play over 9 hrs a day. I am a player and understand most things in this game. I know how to get into KQ, how to reduce lag and so on. I have many idea's on what this game needs to be more successful. If i had to keep in touch with the company i would. I love this game. I am addicted to it and i am getting my friends to play. I am dedicated to getting this server to the best there is. I mean each server should have 3-4 GM's. Not 3-4 gms alltogether. I treat everyone as equals and don't try to abuse power. I am afraid to abuse power because i don't want to get banned.

[Garvin2000]

What I really don't understand is why anyone would want to become one.

[Kirbycode]

What I really don't understand is why anyone would want to become one. A temporary job while you get your masters or doctorate degree? :confused:

Just a thought.

[AdamWest]

to be a GM for outspark you must:

-live in the southern california area (hard to work for outspark if you cant even commute to the office)

-be able to commit 40+ hours a week. this includes paperwork, meetings, phone calls, tech service, etc.

-qualifications for your specific section. eg: CSR's usually have a communications degree, GMs tend to have some sort of programming degree.

-Some previous experience is always a bonus. I know guntrix worked at maiet and dschang worked at ijji and one of them worked at ea games for a while i believe.

[Littlebird]

... Grammar.