Win 200k [] 300k+ of Prizes!

[Monday]

My first contest, and SolsticePlayer's biggest one yet!


For this contest, there will only be TWO winners.

For the winner: 200,000 Kron and a Yellow Lucky Ball!
And for the second place person: 100,000 Kron!


Requirements to enter:
-A minimum of 15 posts at www.SolsticePlayer.com!
Remember that posts in the Spam/Forum Games section do NOT count! Spam
outside of this section WILL be deleted.
-A post in the SolsticePlayer thread (http://www.solsticeplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1918) (<--- LINK) with the following information:


IGN:
Time Zone:
Time you're usually on:


READ THE REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU DO NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU WILL NOT BE ENTERED IN THE CONTEST. THIS IS YOUR ONLY WARNING.



This contest will end on Thursday, at 5:00 PM PST (GMT -8). Prizes will be handed out on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday (or whenever you're on).

Names will be picked using a random name picker. Good luck!

People who have entered so far: (may take a while for me to update it, sorry)

Josh
Daft
ezrice
naksheek
holyswordee
KitySedai
Shame
Eririn
StriderHiryu
kuros

[Mr.Snuggles]

Is this just an attempt to promote another site, and get people to post on it?

[Monday]

All contests hosted by Substance and I require posts at SolsticePlayer. So, to answer your question truthfully, yes. We want SolsticePlayer to be the best fansite for SoS, and one of the ways we do that is by holding these contests. If we didn't have a post requirement it probably wouldn't help our site out at all. But it's only 15 posts, and you have a chance to win 200k and a lucky ball or 100k.

Thanks to Josh and Daft for entering!

[Mr.Snuggles]

Even if it is a fan site, it is still advertising which is usually against the rules on any forum.

So just because I don't join that site, I'm not eligible to enter, yet you make the post on /THIS/ forum. Not only is this the main forum for the game, but it also has every single SoS player on it.

Also, I checked out your site. It's nothing but facts for the game, for people to lazy to figure it out on their own. You have an entire Labyrinth guide on the site, if the administrators wanted people to be able to get through it that easily, they would have given you a map when you entered. I would hate to see this game get ruined so early on, by quest guides, cookie-cutter builds, and maps. I guess to each his own though.

[Substance]

Yes, Mr.Snuggles we don't particularly want to grab 100's of users to post 15 posts, leave and never come back. Instead, we'd rather award our active members (hence the post requirement) and also encourage new users to become active and post more as in return they will be rewarded.

It's all for the good of the community and the SoS community in general!

I hope you can see that :)

Great contest Monday, much love <3

[Mr.Snuggles]

It's all for the good of the community and the SoS community in general!

I hope you can see that :)

Great contest Monday, much love <3

Like I said in my previous post, so far all I have seen from the site is going to completely ruin the game. The fun of the Labyrinth is trying to figure it out, not going to a site and looking at a map. It makes the prize completely worthless. I went through the labyrinth at least twenty times to get my helm, and I was proud that I figured it out. Now that I know there is a guide though, I feel like I wasted all of my time.

As much as I hate to sound mean, but I seriously dislike sites that do nothing but hand out information that people are supposed to figure out on their own.

I think your site is going to be the cancer that kills SoS.

[Substance]

Like I said in my previous post, so far all I have seen from the site is going to completely ruin the game. The fun of the Labyrinth is trying to figure it out, not going to a site and looking at a map. It makes the prize completely worthless. I went through the labyrinth at least twenty times to get my helm, and I was proud that I figured it out. Now that I know there is a guide though, I feel like I wasted all of my time.

As much as I hate to sound mean, but I seriously dislike sites that do nothing but hand out information that people are supposed to figure out on their own.

I think your site is going to be the cancer that kills SoS.

I'm in no way attempting to come across rude here although it may soung so, but please:


I think your site is going to be the cancer that kills SoS.

A little harsh don't you think? Im not guaging open your eyes and telling you to view the map, if you want to do it without the map - then do! If you feel you wasted your time then Im sorry, but quite frankly, an alternate map is availible in the JP wiki and if users did one simple google search they'd find it.

It is a "fansite", we provide information to help you guys, if you aren't gratefull to that, then we suggest you don't visit. What about users new to the game, that may/may not run around town asking questions and feeling frustrated nobody will reply, we can help and do help them!

Hardly cancerous?

[Mr.Snuggles]

A little harsh don't you think? Im not guaging open your eyes and telling you to view the map, if you want to do it without the map - then do! If you feel you wasted your time then Im sorry, but quite frankly, an alternate map is availible in the JP wiki and if users did one simple google search they'd find it.

I don't intend on looking at the map, I intend on playing the game the way it was meant to be played. So when you go out and buy a game, do you buy the entire strategy guide to go with it? What fun is there in a game, if even someone who has never played the game before can tell you exactly where to go and what to do? With your site open, of course no one is going to help anyone! They will just say "Oh, go to the SoS fan site, they have a guide. Just do what it says".

It's not much of a Labyrinth if there is a map for it, is there? I'm sure if the makers of the game wanted someone to be able to just find the end in under 5 minutes, they would have made it a straight line, or like I said before, just given us a map when we went down into it. If the makers of the game wanted everyone to know the best way to make a character, they would have just put it in the game, right?

The only thing walk throughs do is make the people who actually play the game, look like complete newbies when they can't figure something out. Then the whole "lol noob" comments begin coming out, because they assume since they can go to a site and learn everything that everyone should know everything. Do you really think this game is going to be fun if everyone knows every secret before they even play?


It is a "fansite", we provide information to help you guys, if you aren't gratefull to that, then we suggest you don't visit. What about users new to the game, that may/may not run around town asking questions and feeling frustrated nobody will reply, we can help and do help them!

Hardly cancerous?

There is a difference between information to help, and handing them the entire game on a silver platter, while feeding them with a fork. I also want you to think hard about this statment;


What about users new to the game, that may/may not run around town asking questions and feeling frustrated nobody will reply, we can help and do help them!

Not much of a community it will be than, will it? If no one has to ask any questions, and not talk about the game, since everything is already written down, the community is gone. The only real 'community' that will be left is the tight little group that started your forum, everyone else will eventually drift away, or go solo because they become bored of a game that they already know everything about.

I still stand by my original statement, even if it was harsh.

[Substance]

Not much of a community it will be than, will it? If no one has to ask any questions, and not talk about the game, since everything is already written down, the community is gone. The only real 'community' that will be left is the tight little group that started your forum, everyone else will eventually drift away, or go solo because they become bored of a game that they already know everything about.

I still stand by my original statement, even if it was harsh.

I am going to be blunt with you here and tell you that I disagree with you, but everyone's entitled to an opinion. Regardless of your views, those who want the help which we kindly offer, will recieve it. Why would people rather spend their game time asking questions when they could be playing and enjoying themselves.

You've made Solstice Player seem almost Demonic which is not our intentions in the slightest. We've given away almost 1mil's worth of gear/kron on our site and last time I check, cancer never handed out currency to it's sufferers?

By posting your disagreements, your unintentionally bumping our thread.

If you have any further matters you wish to discuss, PM me :)

Regards
Substance

[Mr.Snuggles]

I am going to be blunt with you here and tell you that I disagree with you, but everyone's entitled to an opinion. Regardless of your views, those who want the help which we kindly offer, will recieve it.

Like I said before, there is a difference between help and simply handing out the answers. Also, either way people are going to be asking questions. Thats the point of the community. You can disagree with me all you want, but I have yet to see a valid reason for you to have a labyrinth guide, or any guide period.


Why would people rather spend their game time asking questions when they could be playing and enjoying themselves.

Why would someone play an entire game, when they can just learn the ending? Thats because it's fun. This reminds me a lot of "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE". Everyone learned the best part of the book, which, in turn, ruins the entire book. Is this not exactly what your site is doing? You are giving the information that is meant to be figured our, not handed. Thats why it's called a puzzle. You are making it so people don't enjoy the actual game, you are making it so people enjoy being powerful and able to feel that way.


You've made Solstice Player seem almost Demonic which is not our intentions in the slightest.

Demonic, no. A threat to the game? Yes. Even if it may not have been your intentions, thats all it is going to cause. As Squall Leonhart from Final Fantasy VIII once said; "There is no good or evil, no right or wrong. There are simply two sides, with opposite views". The problem is though, whether people will use your site for good, or bad? I, personally, see nothing good coming out of a 'guide to the maze', besides thousands of people with a reward that isn't even a reward anymore. They might as well just give it out at the beginning.


We've given away almost 1mil's worth of gear/kron on our site and last time I check, cancer never handed out currency to it's sufferers?

That sounds a lot like a major company hiding behind the fact it has given to charity. You can give away all the stuff you want, it doesn't change whats going on behind the scenes. Cigarette companies hand out cash to charities all the time, doesn't mean they don't cause cancer.


By posting your disagreements, your unintentionally bumping our thread.

If you have any further matters you wish to discuss, PM me :)

Regards
Substance

I already knew I was bumping your thread, if it wasn't me, someone else would anyway. I am simply speeding up the inevitable. Also, I must decline your offer to discuss in a PM. That, again, sounds like a major company trying to hide any problems that come up. Since I am disagreeing with your thread, your give away, and your forum in general, of course it would be better to talk about it in a PM. That way only good talk comes from it.

As I have said before, I stand by my original statement. I have seen it happen to many other games before, and would hate to see it happen to this one.

[Puddles]

Woah! Calm down, I think you need to go back to the kitchen and stop trying to defend your dumb point.

[Substance]

This reminds me a lot of "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE".

You've just wrecked Harry Potter for me now...

[Mr.Snuggles]

Woah! Calm down, I think you need to go back to the kitchen and stop trying to defend your dumb point.

If that was an attempt at a sexist remark, you failed miserably. Since, for one, I'm male.

Second off, unless you have something intelligent to say, please don't join in on this debate. Showing that you have to resort to insults, to get your point across, only shows your insecurities and your true intelligence.


You've just wrecked Harry Potter for me now...

You wrecked the Labyrinth for me, so we are even.

[Monday]

Are you saying you memorized how to do the Labrynth by looking at the map for two seconds?

Please tell me how to do that. I still haven't memorized how to do the maze. ;-;

[Mr.Snuggles]

Are you saying you memorized how to do the Labrynth by looking at the map for two seconds?

No, I'm saying the actual prize for figuring it out is pointless now since even someone who has never played the game before knows where the end is.

[Monday]

The end is at the end.

[Puddles]

I think you're very very mistaken.

WHY DON'T WE JUST GET IN A CAR AND AND JUST LEARN HOW TO DRIVE BY OURSELVES!

Though that is a completly different subject the concept is the same. You still need to be Guided to drive, by a book. It's the same thing for a game, you can chose to dive right into it but, chances are you're going to fail. without some sort of guildline to save time in the future. You learn more by doing research!

You sir are a big Hippo, a hypocrite.

[Mr.Snuggles]

I think you're very very mistaken.

WHY DON'T WE JUST GET IN A CAR AND AND JUST LEARN HOW TO DRIVE BY OURSELVES!

Though that is a completly different subject the concept is the same. You still need to be Guided to drive, by a book. It's the same thing for a game, you can chose to dive right into it but, chances are you're going to fail. without some sort of guildline to save time in the future. You learn more by doing research!

You sir are a big Hippo, a hypocrite.

Driving is completely different, lives are on the line if someone happens to do something wrong. That is the ONLY reason. Also, even when you do read all those books, you still have to take a test to double-check to make sure you aren't just cheating your way through. In SoS, no ones life is on the line if you happen to mess up. The worst that happens is you lose some exp.

Again, there is also a difference between a guideline, and holding someones hand through every itty bitty step.

As for the hippo comment, and the hypocrite comment. When you gain the intelligence higher than that of a brick wall, you may say something like that. Until than, please, let the people who know what they are saying speak. If you had any intelligence at all, you wouldn't have to resort to petty remarks like that. My suggestion, grow up.


The end is at the end.

Witty remark, but completely irrelevant.

[Puddles]

I'm sorry, I'll dumb down my posts so you can understand. You obviously didn't get what I was saying nor you really care. You're to blind sighted by your option to see others.

SO LIEK, OMG LIK GUIDEZ HALP PPL LURN MOAR ABUT THE GAME 'KAY?

[Substance]

Seriously though, there's users exp to consider when going in the Lab. Similar to real people's lives, exp is just as serious. Not knowing were your going could lead to your partys death or worse. Sorry if my post somewhat makes out I fail to see the serious issue of creating a fansite.

As been as you speak in the literal sense of SP being Cancerous, I assume our players in game lives are of some importance.

Im sorry for finding the humorous side in this, but I feel the point your trying to make doesn't need to be made. People will either view the fansite or not. Their choice and they're entitled to it. If we didn't post the map, somebody else would.

Regards
Substance

[Mr.Snuggles]

I'm sorry, I'll dumb down my posts so you can understand. You obviously didn't get what I was saying nor you really care. You're to blind sighted by your option to see others.

SO LIEK, OMG LIK GUIDEZ HALP PPL LURN MOAR ABUT THE GAME 'KAY?

I believe you should take your own advice, you are just making yourself look stupid.

I said, there is a difference between a guide to help someone out, and a guide that hands everything to you. I could understand if a guide stated "There are level xxx monsters in the labyrinth, becoming stronger as it goes on. A suggestion would be to bring a party of 8, and to head toward the bottom right corner of the map". Thats an example of a guide. You aren't giving a guide, you are giving the solution to the puzzle. Thats not a guide, thats the answer. The point of a guide is to help you when you get stuck, without giving you the answer.

Now, did you understand that? or are you still 'blind sighted by your option to see others'. I find it ironic, that you actually called me a hypocrite. You actually amuse me now, in the same way a person watches a monkey in the zoo.


Seriously though, there's users exp to consider when going in the Lab. Similar to real people's lives, exp is just as serious. Not knowing were your going could lead to your partys death or worse. Sorry if my post somewhat makes out I fail to see the serious issue of creating a fansite.

It's called trial and error. Again, that is the point to a puzzle. You aren't supposed to be able to figure it out on your first try. Also, if someone is to low of a level their first time through, they will obviously figure that out. Also, exp being similar to real peoples lives? What kind of joke was that? If losing 7% exp is just as serious as someones life, you really need to reflect on whats important in your life.


As been as you speak in the literal sense of SP being Cancerous, I assume our players in game lives are of some importance.

It's a metaphor. I also never stated it would hurt the people one by one, I stated it would kill the game.


Im sorry for finding the humorous side in this, but I feel the point your trying to make doesn't need to be made. People will either view the fansite or not. Their choice and they're entitled to it.

You are right, it is their choice. Advertising your site on another site though, is not their choice, nor is it yours. It is the owners of the site and the games choice.


If we didn't post the map, somebody else would.

As far as I can tell, you are simply trying to justify your wrong doings by saying someone else would do it anyway. That doesn't make what you are doing right just because someone else was going to do it anyway. Thats like saying it's ok for me to ruin the ending to the Harry Potter books, because someone has done it already. So if I told you the ending to the series, that would be ok right? Since it's already been done anyway, and you can simply google it.

[Substance]

I believe you should take your own advice, you are just making yourself look stupid.

I said, there is a difference between a guide to help someone out, and a guide that hands everything to you. I could understand if a guide stated "There are level xxx monsters in the labyrinth, becoming stronger as it goes on. A suggestion would be to bring a party of 8, and to head toward the bottom right corner of the map". Thats an example of a guide. You aren't giving a guide, you are giving the solution to the puzzle. Thats not a guide, thats the answer. The point of a guide is to help you when you get stuck, without giving you the answer.

Now, did you understand that? or are you still 'blind sighted by your option to see others'. I find it ironic, that you actually called me a hypocrite. You actually amuse me now, in the same way a person watches a monkey in the zoo.

We never advertised it as a guide. It's under "Nove Lab Map"on the main site?

It's in the guides and information database yes, but in it's entity it's in it's rightfull place.

[Mr.Snuggles]

We never advertised it as a guide. It's under "Nove Lab Map"on the main site?

It's in the guides and information database yes, but in it's entity it's in it's rightfull place.

I edited my last post in response to yours, but in response to this post;

So if I advertise my computer as a laptop, simply because they both work generally the same way, does that really make it a laptop?

[Substance]

I edited my last post in response to yours, but in response to this post;

So if I advertise my computer as a laptop, simply because they both work generally the same way, does that really make it a laptop?

Taking this way out of context. I could equally say, staying on topic: "Cancer patients shouldn't be given a direct guide on their treatment - they should discover the cure themselves!" Of course they want damn help and so do the new users - we provide that.

The overall point of the matter is, not one person (minus you) has a bad thing to say about our guides database and infact a poll in this very forum suggestions everyone is pleased 100% with the progress so far. Even Rider and Break are registered and post regularly as they can see we do good in the community.

Albeit we advertise a little too much and push the boundries a little, they understand how hard it is to develop a new fansite from a fresh domain, nobody has heard of! Im sure when the game becomes OB and final, we wont get away we cheeky advertisement threads, and Im fine with that.

You destroyed our good atmosphere'd post with slander and infact have contridicted yourself, portaying the SoS community as slightly argumentative and ungratefull.

Sorry for the bad spelling, grammatical issues, it's 2:16 AM and Im tired.

Can we leave this argument at rest now?

Substance

[Mr.Snuggles]

Taking this way out of context. I could equally say, staying on topic: "Cancer patients shouldn't be given a direct guide on their treatment - they should discover the cure themselves!" Of course they want damn help and so do the new users - we provide that.

Again, someones life actually matters. 7% exp isn't that big of a deal. I also don't see how it was taken out of context, you only stated one thing. I also never said there was a problem with helping new members, I just completely disagree with the way you are doing it.


The overall point of the matter is, not one person (minus you) has a bad thing to say about our guides database and infact a poll in this very forum suggestions everyone is pleased 100% with the progress so far. Even Rider and Break are registered and post regularly as they can see we do good in the community.

If you tell someone how great something is, without there being anything against it, of course there aren't going to be many bad things said about it. It only takes one person to change someones view. Ever think that some people on your forum might agree with me, now that they have seen another point of view?


Albeit we advertise a little too much and push the boundries a little, they understand how hard it is to develop a new fansite from a fresh domain, nobody has heard of! Im sure when the game becomes OB and final, we wont get away we cheeky advertisement threads, and Im fine with that.

I honestly see no point in a fan site, other than to post stuff that obviously wouldn't be allowed on the actual site itself. Thats just growing to draw attention away from the actual site. I don't know if anyone plays Runescape, but I can't even trade on the Runescape forums, simply because the fan site has a trade section and more members. If no one has heard of this domain, why not advertise it more instead of your own site? Why not advertise the site where the game originated, than a fan site?


You destroyed our good atmosphere'd post with slander and infact have contridicted yourself, portaying the SoS community as slightly argumentative and ungratefull.

Sorry for the bad spelling, grammatical issues, it's 2:16 AM and Im tired.

Can we leave this argument at rest now?

This post had no atmosphere to begin with, other than "Join my site or I'm going to hold prizes in front of you that you can't get". It was just a cheap attempt to get people to join your site, and a blatant advertisement to distract people from the true forum.

You may go to bed if you wish, but I'm going to continue to argue my point until I am proven wrong. I have yet to be proven wrong in anything I have stated, and your opinion is obviously going to be biased since you are a major part of the fan site.

[hippychibi]

Okay, there are some points both sides are over looking.
Mr. Snuggles is saying it isn't right for you to advertise on this forum. I'm sure it is against the rules but I have not looked into. I do agree that this forum is not for advertising other forums.
Substance/Monday, my name may look familure. I am on SoS Fansite as well, although I don't post anything. Mr. Snuggles being agressive but is trying to defend this site from losing members and the game from losing it's wonder. But the point has been strayed from.
Substance/Monday feels it is their right to post here and advertise their site. I'd reather see it on the forum, one post every so often, then a bot ingame spamming a town for people to join.
I back Mr. Snuggles because I feel this is a violation of the rules of this site.

Personally, this whole event has become over blown. Both sides need to calm down and rethink why they are arguing. Both sides and everyone else, please don't post anything that doesn't help or is just flaming.
Mr. Snuggles, if you feel the rules are being broken tell the admins and let them sort it out. There is not going to be a convincing arguement to make Substance and Monday shut down their site so just let them be.
Substance/Monday, I don't feel your post needed to be as agressive or rude as they were. If SoS Fansite is in the right, then it shouldn't need to hurt someone else to prove it.
I vote we stop this arguement and move on.

--I do hope niether party feels hurt, threatened or insulted by my post. If you have complaints please PM, do not start flaming, it solves nothing.

---I did not read the two post above this one as they were posted while I was typing this

[Kotoraitsu]

I agree with hippychibi in that this argument has been unnecessarily overblown. Over half of the discussion was about the labyrinth map -- which I whole-heartedly agree with Mr. Snuggles on --, but I think both parties have made solid points. Although it is the people's choice to log onto the fansite, that does NOT give ANYONE the right to spam or otherwise advertise and draw attention away from the original website. And back to the labyrinth, I can understand that the people can choose, but really it is in everyone's best interest to learn that on their own. I for one, never read past Book 3 of Harry Potter, but I have also seen the "Snape kills Dumbledore" thing.

As for the "types of guides" debate, there is a clear line between a starter's guide, which will tell you, "You will start with this type of weapon. To find a quest, check the symbol on your map.", and a walkthrough which tell you, "There is a level 62 boss on this map. We recommend a party of more than 6 who are at least level 22 (for map see next page)." People use driver's manuals because they state the RULES; not the specifics of what situations require you to "drive 2.13 meters before easing to a stop when pulled over by the police"(bad example I know).

Aside from that, Mr. Snuggles, your comments on Puddles's
intelligence directly contradicts your point about his/her (I don't know) resorting to petty insults. On that note, I would agree with Puddles's remark in calling you hypocritical. Although his/her comments were hardly relevant to the topic and mostly focused on immature insults -- as was stated by Mr. Snuggles.

As for the whole cancer comment, I agree with Substance in that it is pretty harsh to put it that way. I've never experienced a game being destroyed by fansites, so you may be right. However, to put it into such terms as calling them a "cancer" seems unusually cruel. I'd understand if you were talking about SoS fansites in general, but specifying Solstice Player(no ad intended) is a bit over dramatic.

I'm just glad that there are substancial debates in online forums and not just the typical "lol, omg, ***", etc..:D

[PhyronX]

This sort of argument just seemed...a bit pointless, don't you think? You guys just went back and forth, repeating your points. I don't know if advertising is not allowed or what, but as hippychibi said, it probably isn't. Anyway, guides are...guides. I really don't think it really matters. As (I think) Substance has said, you don't have to look at it. The temptation is there, of course, but if you say simply because it is there, we're going to look at it, well, then you are saying people have no self-control. I am simply stating my inference. You may have no such intentions.

Anyway, I hope this argument is over. I really do, because then we can just go back to being fellow gamers and have fun.

[Monday]

Yes. Please stop the debating. If you're going to post make it relevant to the contest please. ;-;

[Substance]

It's over now, wasn't an argument as much as a debate on My/Mondays/Snuggles views, not so sure about Snuggles and Puddles, nevermind though.

Let's forget this as we aren't here for the Lab Map, we are giving away over 300k in prizes!

[Monday]

Only 7 people entered so far. That means you have a 14% chance of winning the first place prize, or a 28% chance of winning either of the prizes.

Pretty good odds, don't you think? ;)

[Substance]

28% chance, now there's some nice odds.

Hope to see you guys there!

[rckeintaro]

Who cares about the prizes everything's going to be wiped anyway.

[Monday]

We don't know that for sure. Plus, some people want the money anyway. :O

[Substance]

If you were going to die you'd want to enjoy it as much as possible :3

Not that a wipe, come OB, would be like dying!

[asdfcross]

Thats a pretty retarded to say rckeintaro,
if you're going to think of it like that,
than why did you even sign up or try
to play the closed beta? I think that
other people who enjoy the game more
than you obviously should attempt for
the event. Atleast they'll be enjoying
themselves in somewhat weird ways. ^^

[Monday]

Congratulations to:
1. holyswordee
2. StriderHiryu

Meet me in-game for your prize!

[Substance]

Contratulations guys!

Bet you're glad you joined Solstice Player now swordee<3

[rckeintaro]

Thats a pretty retarded to say rckeintaro,
if you're going to think of it like that,
than why did you even sign up or try
to play the closed beta? I think that
other people who enjoy the game more
than you obviously should attempt for
the event. Atleast they'll be enjoying
themselves in somewhat weird ways. ^^

And its to test a game for bugs and errors on a game so other can enjoy. Not that you know of course. You can say there might not be a wipe the chances are very high. Its not retarted to say, for many CB test games get wiped. You must not play any for you to think so. As i said "MOST" do.

If everyone just came to enjoy the game and played without "TESTING" the game. This and all games FAIL. So your pretty retarded :D