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ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 10:54 AM

Dear GM
Hi I am ScoobyDoo from Immortals Guild
It is very nice that I can post something good for entire Fiesta player :)

Dear GM we got a big problem about GGK Dungeon
Some party we called "farmer" were take over entire Dungeon
They train every people who want to hunt GGK
They also train when people is killing Mr.GGK
They also "FARM" all the Equipment from GGK

GM said " Lol Scooby, do you have any proof of that ? "
Scooby said " Of course Dear GM ^^ here is the proof"

1. This is the Figther (leader of the farmer)
First She come to the mobs
(take a look at the pic ! ^^)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6154/screenshot006gr1.jpg
and one more
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4517/screenshot007eg1.jpg

2. Wow hold a minute GM, this is the part i most like, take a look ^^
Here come the super trainer wohooo...
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9886/screenshot009mj4.jpg

3. Wops wait a minute, they call a backup
Here come the Mage and Cleric, "Cleric rest me please so we can train again this Dungeon is belonging to Us !!!"
"Ok Ok"
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1116/screenshot011if6.jpg

4. "Alright then, I am rez now, lets go train some for them !!!"
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7278/screenshot015nh1.jpg

Cleric said "wait i give you Invinsible buff"
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3532/screenshot019nw0.jpg

"LOL ?! She didnt made it !!! Another failed to train the Photographer XD"
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6138/screenshot020we6.jpg

5. GM said "Scooby is this over???"
Scooby said "No GM we got more, they train us when we want to leave Dungeon"
GM said "wow you got a proof ??"
Scooby said "Always for U Dear GM :)"

a. Take a look this Cleric 007 is just train my entire member using horse and stop to in front of us.
"Hey look there is Leadiad too (The Super Trainer) XD"
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3045/screenshot027ip9.jpg

b. And the last part
The architect of the "Farmer" is ...... Ta Da..........
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1231/screenshot029br8.jpg
Yes He is, you want to buy all GGK Equipment ask him lol cause he is the Farmer
Sword Mace Wand Stuff Ring etc ^^"

So GM this is the proof of what happened when you not in Dungeon
Where is the Justice then ?
I am very sure that GM will banned them ^^
GoGoGo Dear GM...

And last but not least
With all respect from Immortals Guild
to
Gardon Of Recluse guild (Our Buddy in Fiesta ^^)
"Glad you got a trainer at your Guild inside"
No Offense
You know what to do to them ^^

See Ya,....

ScoobyDoo
Immortals Member

Tsujin

10-23-2007, 11:00 AM

I don't see any mobs chasing her....Kindof a pointless screenshot.

Soul.of.Trance

10-23-2007, 11:02 AM

Lolwut!?:d

Isila

10-23-2007, 11:08 AM

Hmm.. I'm not saying you weren't being trained, but that screenshot doesn't really prove that she was training you, and I don't think the GM's can do anything about it >.< But maybe *shrug*

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 11:31 AM

Isila are you a part of the "Farmer" ^^ Jkk..

Isila I wil not waste my time to this forum
this is my first thread anyway
If you want a proof go to Dungeon ^^ then you will have some fun with the Farmer..

I dont know you got an imagination or not with the picture
I am clearly take a screenshot one by one
Not just when she pull all mobs together
even when her cleric rez her, and she did it again

So Isila Open Your Eyes ^^
To be honest I dont espect for anything
I want all Fiesta player to be happy
and also Justice in Fiesta

ScoobyDoo

Enzio

10-23-2007, 11:35 AM

such a colorful post from such a colorful person, good read! hope they get punished

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 11:36 AM

Enzio you just become a part of Justice in Fiesta
Keep it up Enzio ^^

Andromeda

10-23-2007, 11:43 AM

Garden of Recluse already has a bad reputation its just going to get worse. They are known as the farming guild. You will see them in dungeons almost 24/7 a couple of the GoR members are nice but the rest are bad eggs. They will train you if they see you as a threat of farming Chief Monsters before them.

I know a GoR member is going to flame me for this but I dont care I'm just speaking the truth.

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 11:45 AM

OMG Andromeda
I just knew it Poor me -.-"""

Isila

10-23-2007, 11:46 AM

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 11:52 AM

Dear Isila
You mean the first post ? that is unfinished one ^^
Now it is.
Sorry if we got something bad for U..
Have a Nice Day Isila

daggrr69

10-23-2007, 11:53 AM

Wow very bad engilsh and sucking up thus the screen shots are pretty much pointless prove nothing. :D

AngellicDiety

10-23-2007, 11:53 AM

I've had the same problem Scoob, the same group, except its kiikd, whos the tanker, and the cleric is ghiydjy. They group with Cleric007 who trained us right when we were dealing the final blow to the GGK, then kiikd stole the kill...

icedout

10-23-2007, 11:55 AM

lol scoob...i like the screenshot A coz im there..got hit though...T_T..

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 11:56 AM

LOL Sorry for a Bad Grammar
I sux with it, XD
Wow Anggelic you is the victim too
Hmm... this is really out of line

icedout

10-23-2007, 11:59 AM

hey dagrrr..maybe you should ask first where scoobydoo is from then say that again...you might get banned from Soltice...

*FIESTA CB2 TESTER*

ScoobyDoo

10-23-2007, 12:03 PM

Lol Iced
Finally you in the thread too buddy ahaha

Got hitted while taking a screenshot lol
nice Pose anyway ^^

gizelaX

10-23-2007, 12:06 PM

Hello,

I am Morana and was in the party with ScoobyDoo at the time of the happenings. I'll try to give a more detailed (and also a bit less colourfull) account of what happened.

So today we decidet to go GGK hunting. Once we got to the dungeon we imedietely saw that the farmers that have been occupying it the whole week were there. We started scouting and were doing ok untill one of them (like_you) started following us. Of course he tried to train us but we were prepared and didn't die. As we were making our way to the top, central room he tried to train us again but died while we survived and got there. We managed to kill a ggk and while we were still up there the fighter (laidiad) ran to us with a whole bunch of mobs chaising her. We tried to run, most of us died but this is when the fun started.

After we regrouped we decided to hunt further but the whole farming group was up now and everyone was training us. Things escalated to the point where we were all continuisly spawning at the portal and they were training us buy gathering mobs and jumping through to goblin camp. I admit, we started doing the same only to find them waiting on the GC side with more mobs for us. This went on for quite a while, untill we started thanking them for pulling the mobs on us and making it easier for us to level. After a while they got bored and went back to GGK.

I think they are completely ruining the GGK dungeon for us regular players and exploiting the drops to do some serious farming, possibly for gold sellers. If you have doubts just look at the characters that sell GGK items. It's usually the same few people over and over again with new items. Now we know how they manage to ward of competition.

Now as far as the screenshots are concerned, I added some of mine from outside the GGK gate. Mind you they are not easy to make while trying to survive a train. Well hope mine convince you, if not, try it out for yourself, we'll see how long the farmers will let you in peace.

List of the farmers: Cleric007, like_you, leadiad, herjtia, ghrydjy

[img=http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/161/screenshot076wv4.th.jpg] (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot076wv4.jpg)

[img=http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7061/screenshot077mo2.th.jpg] (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot077mo2.jpg)

[img=http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8756/screenshot082lq0.th.jpg] (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot082lq0.jpg)

KireiYosei

10-23-2007, 12:26 PM

daggrr69

10-23-2007, 01:23 PM

hey dagrrr..maybe you should ask first where scoobydoo is from then say that again...you might get banned from Soltice...

*FIESTA CB2 TESTER*

Rofl! :D I meant nothing about the bad grammar I simply meant it's bad nothing besides that so no hard fellings :cool: btw how in the hell will I get banned for that lol don't get it

Ccookie

10-23-2007, 01:35 PM

Someone in my guild made a theory that GoR is a bunch of people working for farming companies. They're not bots.. bots are programmed, but farmers are players who get paid to farm items and get money.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I too have experienced the wraith of some GoR members. In Concealed peak, my party was camping a GGK, about to attack, when a member ran up, ran off, then ran back up to us with a mob behind him, training us.

I'm not Chinese just as your information. We do not work for any companies ROFL. Both those members have been removed from GoR.I don't even know who Cleric007 is. Yes we Farm Boss's we have a few teams that farm Boss's I've never seen another group of people in Bonds at any of the times we are in there so not really sure what you are talking about. Enless it was just those 2 people for GGK. You guys see us farming Boss BECAUSE what else are we going to do at lvl 59? Not sure why I didn't see this post before or they would of been removed alot faster. Only a few GoR even read the forums your best off just msging one of us in-game if something like this happens. Again I'm very sorry they did that. I can't control another person's actions.

Thanks Cookie

Syrlith

10-23-2007, 01:39 PM

I was wondering if I could have a glossary on these words; I am still pretty new to MMOs.

Ccookie

10-23-2007, 01:47 PM

On which words? GGK? CGK? They are short for Gaint Goblin King, Chief Gaurd King <-- Torture King. Easier then typing out the entire thing that's forsure hehe.

gizelaX

10-23-2007, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the info Cookie, nice to know you took notice of the matter and acted about it.

Morana

Patchouli

10-23-2007, 06:06 PM

The people mentioned (Cleric007, leadiad) were in guild for only one day. We do not support what they did, and they have now been removed. Sorry for the inconvenience. If there is another problem with GoR members doing similar things later, feel free to /w me, or others ingame, and we will do something about it.

In response to the farmer suggestion, I'm sorry, but that just seems a bit like jealousy to me, we don't really have anything much to do after hitting the cap other than to either make more characters or to try and improve our capped characters in any way we can, and the only way we can do the second is either with better items (hence why we're there most of the time, going after weapons we can use with good stats) or with enhancements (which are VERY expensive to fund)

... wouldn't you do the same?

KireiYosei

10-24-2007, 12:48 AM

When did I say you were Chinese? I didn't. So I honestly don't know what you meant with "You got your wish. I hope you're happy."

And I wasn't accusing you guys of anything. I'm not jealous of anyone, its just a game. I said my guild MEMBER made the theory. And you're replying as if this is my thread that I made.. I was just replying to it, because the same thing happened to me.

TastyTapioca

10-24-2007, 06:43 AM

vvyrd

10-24-2007, 06:46 AM

lol this is kinda funny

Tamlinari

10-24-2007, 08:55 AM

Ccookie

10-24-2007, 05:00 PM

The Gardon of Recluse people are just idiots in general (hell they even mispelled their guild name for gods sake). Unfortunately they will always have that bad reputation as being farmers and trainers. I watched them whine a lot in the Mini-dragon KQ the other night. Hints: capslock overuseage and megalomaniacs.

:-P

We don't Like people coming into KQ's Leaching off of us. You got an issue with it don't bother joining. If your going to Join a KQ that we have 13 of our members in and just stand there doing nothing at all why bother joining. If you wanna play then play but don't leach off other people who get **** done so they can win. Kthnx we don't need extenders to win.

Our Last KQ we had 3 Clerics sitting there almost doing nothing. Then an Archer who decided to I guess not bring any SP stones what-so-ever. Your pretty damn useless if you can't damage what we needed to be damage. Instead he decided to sit in his shroom. As for the clerics, here is what they said.... No one to heal, or they did not have a party. Do you really think that we don't heal people not in our party. OR LET ALONE THE 2 MAIN TANKS. It's really not that hard to see who the tanks are. If your party is not taking damage click to watch the Tank it's really not that hard. If you want I can fraps and show you how to do it. After about 25 minutes into the Last Boss Fight those clerics i think figured out how to be usefull *golf clap*

As for you calling us Farmers and trainers maybe we should live up to our name then? Or you need to grow up it's a game. We enjoy playing this game as much as you do. We don't go around calling you farmers. As for our Guild name how long it take you to figure out it was wrong? You think we don't know that? It's a pretty funny story, but i'm sure you really wouldn't care. Not even sure we plan on fixing it. FYI take a look around at other guild names if you wanna try and say something about ours at least we know ours is misspelled.

P.S I really love you people and your 9 year old comments please keep them coming. I'm rather enjoying myself. Gives me something to do since we can't lvl anymore again. Other then wait for Seal Closed Beta to start really excited about playing it.

Love, Cookie

Jhanniss

10-25-2007, 01:36 PM

I will vouch for Cookie. She may seem a bit stern at times but has been overall good person in my view.

I cannot and will not say the same for her guild as I've had several issues with many members on more than one occasion.

As for myself on the farming thing. I don't mind people doing whatever they want so long as they do not train stuff onto me in an attempt to take over the area I'm in. I also don't mind them so long as they are respectful to those around them.

In the case of the GGK trains, I can't respect that. However keep in mind that Gardon of Recluse is not the only guild who does or has done this in there before. I just have to many mention.

I think the other reason Gardon gets a big red bullseye tagged onto them is for now ex-members who went around stirring up trouble for other people and in the end reflected on Gardon regardless of if they are still with them or not.

Despite the occasional verbal clashes, you're alright in my book Cookie. :3

mad_jinks

10-25-2007, 02:45 PM

Ive had some problems with GOR members and yes have been trained on by them but that can be said for most guilds i dont think any guild can say they havnt had members that have done that to ppl.

shnoobienoobie

10-25-2007, 06:06 PM

i'm sorry, but i only read the main post and i didn't understand what's it all about.
what's the problem there?
what do you mean "train" or "trained"

s3ngoku

10-25-2007, 06:40 PM

'' train '' means the act of luring bunch of mobs into other player with intention(maybe 1-2% accidentally, but if its more than 5 mobs..its kinda obvious..) of getting the player killed by the mobs.

Well personally, I hadnt really got any issues with members of GoR except perhaps 2-3 who were rather arrogant and rude to other players..okay..im use to seeing this kind of attitude from members of a high level guild in MMORPGS so it doesnt really bother me alot.

However, i believe it is only a few black sheeps amongst them, as i had several pleasant encounter with a few as well, just 3hrs ago, 1 of their cleric(Jesse_...kinda long name..) gladly help me with the Karasian Crest quest even though she had done it already, Syrup is friendly as well :)

Ledah

gizelaX

10-25-2007, 08:27 PM

This post wasn't started with the attempt to bash at GoR members. It was started as a complaint about a party of trainers in GGK, two of which happened to be GoR members (though only for a short time). At the moment it apears as though the matter has been settled but if the stated people still farm/train in GGK please post that.

But do not use this thread as a general bash against GoR or any other guild. If you feel like doing that, start your own.

KireiYosei

10-25-2007, 08:45 PM

Why don't people forgive and forget? Whats happened has happened.

s3ngoku

10-25-2007, 09:15 PM

Forgive and forget is a good thing, however it shouldnt be so in this situation where the ''farmers''(those who had weird nick and work for the gold selling organization) is causing unpleasant gameplay experience to players in the concealed peak.
I know this doesnt concern you and me anymore as we are both past the dungeon level, we should not ignore this situation and forget about it as there are still other players out there who wants to experience ggk without getting train :)

Ledah

AriesMehjor

10-25-2007, 09:47 PM

Nope, whats happend will still happen. Yeah I know the Gardon of Recluse thing, persoanally when I first saw them back when I was really new to the game it was during a pirate attack on the beach/GM event. I saw thier high levels and armor and thought wow, they're really talented, until I lost my whole noob status and saw some of thier members doing things that all players hate! My thing is this, if you're gonna have people in your Guild, I dont care what guild it is, have em checked out to make sure you're in the right company of friends.

Thats all I'm gonna say about that, just be responsible, and if anything or anybody is tied to your guilds name that doesn't follow suit/ AKA play nice, seriously take care of it. And if its an offence thats worth turning them in, DO IT. The GMs aren't going to delete anything without proper evidence. And from what I've seen theres enough whitnesses and screenshots to put all of the offenders to delete.
Believe it or not there are offences in game that you can do as far as online play goes that can get you into serious legal trouble, yeah I know, its just a game, but you're also in a massive world chatroom that can uphold laws derivative of your country. Note: predators in the united states thats a serious issue, and you can be found guilty of propositioning a kid for sex and sent to jail, yes in real life you will be sent to jail.
If it comes to a point where GMs aren't doing thier jobs or you don't think they're doing thier jobs, thats thier problem and thier paycheck or whatever compensation they makes problem.
Ultimately, this is a game. This is an enjoyable game that the Outspark team is publishing for enjoyment here in the US. Respect that.
If you hurt the enjoyment of the game for others, you are initially hurting yourself. If people stop playing, this whole idea of a Fiesta Store and murchandise, and whatever. Whats the point, because there will be no one left to buy it if there are no people playing. Therefore Fiesta becomes no more. And that goes with any MMO you play.
Being a nice human being is a simple task, some people suck at life, thats thier problem and may they have thier characters deleted for that. But for yourselves, be cool and you won't have to worry about a thing.
Theres a good majority of players who are just sick of trying this game or even starting this game because of the community. Being nice to someone who doesn't know thier keyboard from a hole in the dirt isn't hard, in turn it makes the person you were nice to want to do the same to others, and in the long run makes that person a little more knowledgable in the game when you'll need them. Kindness spreads more than what people think.

We as players make our own future for this game, and its open ended, you dont need a bot, you dont need a cheat code, you dont need to make money off of somthing that gives you what you want for free with a little work involved.
Play responsibly and respect others you encounter in this game, having a nice attitude about the game and the people around you will ensure a better experience for everyone involved. Including yourself!

Live good,
Aries.

KireiYosei

10-25-2007, 10:29 PM

Well, we still have TK. But I was leaning more towards judging people as a whole. If I have been disturbed by someone in the game, I don't go off thinking "Rawr, I hate 'insertguildnamehere'!", or I don't go threatening to war them (that happened to me earlier today <.<). Because its the party's actions, not the guilds. I had guild members who did things that that are annoying and offensive in the game. It doesn't mean I approved of it. Eventually I just got rid of those people.
Someone made the mistake of assuming I was stereotyping and/or prejudging Gardon of Recluse. I didn't say "I experienced the wraith of Gardon of Recluse", I said members. I only mentioned it in this thread to bring it forward, because I knew SOMEONE from GoR would read it. I don't know if those people have been removed, and I don't care if they have or not, I don't wish such things upon people. And I certainly didn't request such things.
I can dislike someone from a guild, but then someone else from the same guild be one of my closest friends in-game.
I just noticed theres a lot of judging a whole group of people from one persons actions, and I quite frankly find that unfair.