View Full Version : serious problem rant. GMs please read and help
rasic
04-02-2009, 11:30 PM
ok theres one thing on Fiesta that bugs me a bit and it the sale prices. i do expect the armors and skills to be a little expencive and all but things are easy till past lv 22 im gonna guess thats when things start killing your money and bank. Stone, Skills, Weapons and armors should have there prices lowered. btw before people are like ok just gather things and sell them to players. True i could do that but people if your like me you dont have the time or patience to do that, if your like me you wanna hurry and lv up bigtime like i just started a Fighter and i wanna make him the best he can be im in lv 35-40s right now and i wanna keep goin and save money but sadly there things around this lv expect you to have like 35s on you for 1 skill. i can sit there be like omg 35 where am i supposed to get that the quests suck in giveing cash and experiance (oh yea can u raise the exp earning mount for quest and make some more up 3 easyly done quests a lv doesnt cut it plus the amount for probly doing repeatable quests we should earn more) and now the stones now there still copper in lv 30's but still say i have 5s for hp stones and i use all the silver and i still dont have maxed out hp stones cause i like to keep as much as i can plus i still need sp stones too and if i buy maxed out of both i just wasted like 10s. and i know i can just save up but hell we need skills which cost 15s around the 30's and armor which round from 10-15 for boots and helmet 18s for pants and it jumps to 23s for chest idk dont correct me i didnt check. plus weapons are like 25s, so saving doesnt always work. Please if someone can change this game either Lower prices in the stores or give more cash (and Experiance) from quests if you can do both that also be cool. btw those who are gonna comment dont say anything likeomg just farm or save i dont wanna hear it if u can aggree with me then please do im not getting enough quests either nothing is good i dont wanna work with a higher lv, gathering stuff and all its just too boring i wanna work on lvling as fast as i can cause i need quests bad i olny have 2 poor cash and exp quests this is what ticked me off and no more saying join an academy im in a guild with my brother and barely anyone in the guilds is on and most who arent on are the admins so i cant join back in
AGREE OR GO I DONT WANNA LISTEN TO PEOPLES ANNOYING COMMENTS TELLING ME THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WELL IF I WANTED TO DO THAT I WOULD IM WORKING ON GETING MORE QUESTS. OH YEA IF YOU CANT SAY ANYTHING NICE DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL
spookyiness
04-02-2009, 11:32 PM
ouch
i'm sure you made some good points, and i understand not everyone has english as their first language, but can you paragraph that up a bit, cause it's really hard to read one long 300 word sentence
rasic
04-02-2009, 11:37 PM
oh yea and i dont like buying from the player vendors in town cause they useually sells things higher then the price from the NPCs i call those who do that ripoffs. Even if the found a solar Eclipse something weapon/armor its sold for like twice the ammount there sold from buy the NPCs and its really not that special when its a green its just like +3 STR then the ones in the stores sometimes
rasic
04-02-2009, 11:39 PM
ouch
i'm sure you made some good points, and i understand not everyone has english as their first language, but can you paragraph that up a bit, cause it's really hard to read one long 300 word sentence
ok ill just say three words to define what im saying 'the prices suck.'
yourmojo
04-03-2009, 12:06 AM
cause it's really hard to read one long 300 word sentenceheh..........
Anyway, I think what the OP is getting at is that the prices for skills and armor is really high for the amount of money that the player earns at lower levels. Personally, I resorted to making stones to finance my cleric...Turns out, I can now use those skills to enhance my gear in the later levels......................But anyway...
The OP is right. They've been making it easier and easier to level up for lower levels so that they out-level their armor and skills too fast. They all see the exp is great, so naturally they want to level up faster to get higher level where it's easy to earn money. Skipping quests and such is the result. They modified one part of the equation without balancing out the other.
Now I'll assume you don't want to hear me explain how to make money by gathering/farming/producing/QUESTS so I'll end my post here.
FlashBoom
04-03-2009, 12:57 AM
this would be outsparks response
"the prices are by design, if you need to make money we suggest war rant, enhancement eyes/miles/nines, charms bundle"
lol, but if you need money just join good academy, maybe grind abyss when no one there, do quests w/e. maybe vend portal scrolls.
I made it just fine before abyss/academies/before you could sell eldy scrolls for like 4-5s XD
buying npc thnigs should be no problem
imo you have it easy lol
gibson82650
04-03-2009, 01:09 AM
i see what ya mean but srsly? all i did was grind the lvl 20 abyss and i had JUST enough to pay foreverything and then still had wnough to buy my first mini pet ^^ so just keep doing stuff see hwo it goes ok =/ OS isnt gonna help any of us >< we chose this game nwo we have ot live with it or leave (sorry to be so blaintent about it )
twiztedcriminal
04-03-2009, 01:51 AM
a way i made money is i found a lvl 74 mage in the lvl 70 abyss and healed him and i was a lvl 50 cleric at the time, but i got lucky right there. and i also sold lantern souls during the halloween event, if it wasnt for those 2 things, i would be broke and have NPC equipment, and i'd struggle to get hp and sp stones. so i agree with ya. its hard to make money unless you have loads of sparkcash. Outspark will not do anything about it because they want you to buy sparkcash. They dont care about the players. And farming is soooooooooo slowwwww without sparkcash.
akarih
04-03-2009, 02:05 AM
The prices are a bit expensive, but I think this trains your game lol. Just sell whatever you can sell when you have free time.
And also, if you need money, join an acad.
As for the exp, I think they are fine as they are. :) The game has to have a bit of challenge.
autchiewicz
04-03-2009, 04:39 AM
the game is fine,they give you plenty of ways to make money,academy,quests,harvesting,production,drops,k q so um.. yea xD,but the current lag is the only thing im crying about right now
snowspirit
04-03-2009, 08:01 AM
lol, you got to be kidding me?! This game is very easy! I just did my quests, set up shop at night to sell my drops, and I had no problems with cash. The game is easy, not hard at all.
It's these same people who spend all day shouting for others to power level them that have these problems. WHY play a game is you don't want to PLAY it?! lol.
Sure some quests don't seem to have huge rewards, but trust me, do them and they will pay off. You will always have something to do, and you will keep leveling and making money without even realizing it. There nothing worse then when a player complains he/she is bored, but has a dozen quests they could do.
The game doesn't magically become more fun at higher levels. Getting power leveled just means you will miss out on all the fun and exploration the game has to offer at EVERY level.
So quit your whining, actually PLAY the game, and realize that there is more to the game then just leveling up. Otherwise go play Doom or whatever instant gratification low IQ game does it for you.
trippy1
04-03-2009, 04:20 PM
lol,I get a kick out of post like these..I have a 86 cleric and 63 fighter and a 40 archer,all have golds on them from skills ,quest and farming,if you wanna gripe about money(in game) try some of the above instead of p-lvling up,my cleric holds over a gem on him..all from working alot of grueling hrs in abysses and dungeons!! all I can say is get to work and stop complaining
Ninjayoshi4
04-03-2009, 04:26 PM
ouch
i'm sure you made some good points, and i understand not everyone has english as their first language, but can you paragraph that up a bit, cause it's really hard to read one long 300 word sentence
I agree... Please try to make this understandable to other human beings. If anything, just add some grammer in please DX
rasic
04-04-2009, 08:31 PM
this would be outsparks response
lol, but if you need money just join good academy, maybe grind abyss when no one there, do quests w/e. maybe vend portal scrolls.
I made it just fine before abyss/academies/before you could sell eldy scrolls for like 4-5s XD
buying npc thnigs should be no problem
imo you have it easy lol
i am apart of a guild with my brother and im not leaving
rasic
04-04-2009, 08:34 PM
i see what ya mean but srsly? all i did was grind the lvl 20 abyss and i had JUST enough to pay foreverything and then still had wnough to buy my first mini pet ^^ so just keep doing stuff see hwo it goes ok =/ OS isnt gonna help any of us >< we chose this game nwo we have ot live with it or leave (sorry to be so blaintent about it )
yea but i clearly said i dont wanna waste time just gathering stuff im kinda in a rush to level up a lot cause im not getting enough quests thats good at giving exp
rasic
04-04-2009, 09:01 PM
ok snowspirit your being a punk right now u dont even see the problem cause you had it easy ok im having problems ok i always work alone. the game is hard for me right now cause the quests suck with experiance, i love the game where the hell did i say i hated fiesta, im never bored when on fiesta, i dont have any quests, ok and last i clearly said for people who have problems i dont wanna hear it ok agree or go i dont wanna hear it. Btw if the game was soo easy for you why you even commenting this rant. Your being a huge dillweed to a player cause u gotten lucky when playing. Say something thats worth listening to or dont say anything at all.
akarih
04-04-2009, 09:26 PM
So you don't want to leave a guild to join an acad, fine. Then you gotta find another way of earning money. What level are you at currently? The hard-to-level part doesn't come until like... 6x?
You don't want to spend time gathering. Have you tried making scrolls/stones/pots then, with whatever mats you have? You can vendor those off. Scrolls are pretty high in demand. (Personally, I keep them for myself though, but my friends sell scrolls every single day.)
Have you tried doing repeatable quests? (One tip is to keep doing repeatables until you have exceeded their level limit, before doing the others.)
Since you are in a guild with your brother, can you ask him to give/lend you some money? You should ask him for advice on your problems too.
Take part in every single KQ that you can. (King Slime, Mara, GH... These are easy to succeed, and get experience. You will start screaming in pain once you get to Robo.)
You have two issues, and they are actually clashing with each other.
Lack of money - Spend less then if you don't wanna spend time gathering. I believe saving a little bit here and there helps.
Lack of exp - Keep grinding. The exp has already gotten better for the lower levels (you can refer to the patch updates). And there should be quests at every level, why don't you have any?
Working alone is not the problem. You get more exp, which is good.
There's no easy, lucky, perfect route of levelling fast and getting rich. Otherwise, where's the challenge?
Good luck.
fireyair
04-04-2009, 09:40 PM
This is all really just your first venture into the Fiestian mid-levels. Aroung last April, OnsonSoft tweaked around levels 1-30 so that the prices are all extremely low, and you can level using just quests. However, past level 30 you are somewhat introduced to the old Fiesta. You will learn about long hours of grinding, Production usage, and just what to do to have things go your way.
This isn't alltogether a bad thing, it helps shape you out. If you can make 1-89 in two weeks, not only will the game get really boring, but no community will form until the real high levels. When it takes time and effort to level, you really learn how to take it easy, and that is the time when you are introduced to the whole MMO scenario. Communication with others will become vital. You will be required to ask for buffs whenever you venture into abyss. You will buy cheaper and better weapons from player shops, and will finally get to the high levels, being a decent player, one whom people will enjoy spending time with.
Also, you may be forced to develop a sense of humor, be warned.
Peace:cool: