job...change? (110 or 120)

[goldhawk2]

I recently went to fiestaonline.net...and I was looking through all the lvl 110 skill and then found the lvl 110 or 120 classes...and I find out that all those amazing skills at 110 are being split up!! D: we wont get every skill we need....this really really sucks!! but is it right? will we get half and half or will xbow and bow users get to use these amazing skills!?! I praaayyy that we get to both use them.....

[mehe25]

The job change is at 120 and the skills are at 110.....I don't get it myself...

[goldhawk2]

they better not split up those damn skills...

[mehe25]

Or we might get all those skills at 110 and get differen't skills from 120 and above.....then again the discription contradicts my theory....=.-

[goldhawk2]

your right ^^ I think our info about it being 120 is wrong :/ either that or fiestaonline is wrong :/

[wannabeguyo]

New skills at 110 never made sense to me when the job change is supposedly at 120. I don't know what to think now.

[Niiro]

nobody knows... i think its just a mistake of fiestaonline and that the 110 skills need to be lv. 120. and yes, they will split up. the discription of the classes says so.

[fireyair]

And Entangle has a cooldown of 1 second.

Pwnage has a name! :o



Peace:cool:

[goldhawk2]

damn it! ._. this sucks so hard!!! oh my efffin lord >.> so I imagine the effin bow is gonna get all the good skills, sense I use an xbow :/ and all the xbow skils are gonna be worthless....wooh thanks fiesta! ._.

hold up hold up! the korean website says those skills are lvl 110 as well.....but yet...120 job change? hmm sounds fishy to me! if anything the job change is 110!

[KLutZoo11]

erm....let me but in, look at the gear on fiestaonline, pat attention to that, theres 2 sets of gear for lvls 114+, im pretty sure the cap is 110, correct me if im wrong

[whatever1234567]

they better not split up those damn skills...

They will. Rangers can hide, blind, and disarm. Sharpshooters entangle detect and the hit target out of range skill. I think both class's will be getting utmost arrow. Just cause i want you guys to :o

[MelvinUnderBelly]

the cap is only going to go to 109 or 105 so doesnt matter for,,,, like another year hahahah

[wannabeguyo]

And Entangle has a cooldown of 1 second.

Pwnage has a name! :o



Peace:cool:

Actually, 분 means minute. With max cool down empowerment, it's still nothing to be ashamed of. 초 means second, so you guys can form a clear understanding of the cool downs.


They will. Rangers can hide, blind, and disarm. Sharpshooters entangle detect and the hit target out of range skill. I think both class's will be getting utmost arrow. Just cause i want you guys to :o

Well Rangers get hide and entrap, that's the only two the the class description points to. Sharpshooters get neutralize, blind shot, slow shot, and detect. I am also going to have to say that I believe that both get the distance buff. I remember seeing a person on BK fiesta with a crossbow and the distance buff. Everything else would just be speculation if I continued.

[fireyair]

Curses.

Now Hide has 5 Minutes cooltime.



Peace:cool:

[whatever1234567]

Actually, 분 means minute. With max cool down empowerment, it's still nothing to be ashamed of. 초 means second, so you guys can form a clear understanding of the cool downs.



Well Rangers get hide and entrap, that's the only two the the class description points to. Sharpshooters get neutralize, blind shot, slow shot, and detect. I am also going to have to say that I believe that both get the distance buff. I remember seeing a person on BK fiesta with a crossbow and the distance buff. Everything else would just be speculation if I continued.

Sharpshooters are the guys with Xbows, Bows are rangers :o

[DincaTinel]

The job change is at 120 and the skills are at 110.....I don't get it myself...



The job change is at lvl 110 not 120 here are the profs that shows these

here it shows the clas spliting and information tels at some points what skils the clases wil get after the job change

http://fiestaonline.net/guide/classinfo.asp

here shows the skils lvl so tink about this a bit from the first link now u now what skils get the holyknights and guardians here shows the lvl for those skils

http://fiestaonline.net/guide/listSkill.asp?classType=2

Here look were the armors split the Eleazar Armor Set and Floof Armor Set are for the same lvl so tink a bit skils a bunch at lvl 110 descrptions and armors that split at lvl 110

[wannabeguyo]

Uhhh no. I'm 100% certain that Rangers are the xbow wielders and Sharpshooters are the bow wielders.

http://fiestaonline.net/image/etc/update/20080702/01.jpg

The one holding the xbow is the Ranger.

샤프슈터 - Sharpshooter

레인저 - Ranger

[Niiro]

Sharpshooters are the guys with Xbows, Bows are rangers :o

... you are talking nonsense all the time...rangers are the ones with crossbow sharpshooters with bows... and at the discription it says nothing about rangers getting disarm skill etc... they only talk about hide and entrap.

[whatever1234567]

Uhhh no. I'm 100% certain that Rangers are the xbow wielders and Sharpshooters are the bow wielders.

http://fiestaonline.net/image/etc/update/20080702/01.jpg

The one holding the xbow is the Ranger.

샤프슈터 - Sharpshooter

레인저 - Ranger

Whoops my bad XD. Thats why i wasn't making any sense i thought rangers used bows and sharpshooters used Xbows. I forget where i saw that =/. Yea i remembered which skills each class got by their weapon XD.

[Niiro]

haha lol it's ok... if you wanna take a look on the pics and info again go to http://fiestaonline.net and also take a look at http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88276

*also my post above wasn't ment as flaming, so sry if it looks like it does.*

[Plushii]

Curses.

Now Hide has 5 Minutes cooltime.



Peace:cool:

And I bet it only lasts like 10 seconds D=

[whatever1234567]

Actually i'm gonna take a risk of sounding stupid again but i don't think it had a duration. Why do i guess this? Cause how do you think GMs do the find a GM events :O. But yea just a crazy thought XD.

[goldhawk2]

I thought so :/

[darthnish]

i so want to be a bow user but i like hide more ):

[fireyair]

i so want to be a bow user but i like hide more ):

I have have perfect solution. We will Hide, and use no weapon. We shall bide our time till our opponents let their guard down, then strike!

PH33R our N4KK1D H1D3 5K1LL5!!1



Peace:cool:

[mehe25]

They will. Rangers can hide, blind, and disarm. Sharpshooters entangle detect and the hit target out of range skill. I think both class's will be getting utmost arrow. Just cause i want you guys to :o

I think Rangers got the better armour, weopon and skills lol.

[wannabeguyo]

And I bet it only lasts like 10 seconds D=

Actually if my info is correct. Hide lasts until you attack something, you are attacked (like you mistakenly walk into an AOE), or if a sharpshooter dispels it. 5 minute cool down doesn't have me worried. I'll just use Hide, then take those five minutes to use the restroom, wash my hands, and get some snacks. If my hide is deactivated BAM! put it on again.

It's a no contest decision for me.

1) Xbows don't look like junk on stick anymore.

2) I can sneak up on people and wait till they have 1hp left :D! For all the people I wrote down on my hit list. I seriously do have one.

3) If you are smart and preplan your attacks, setting bombs at the escape routes would be awesome.

4) Sharpshooter looks like he has jet packs on his shoulders.

5) Ranger has highest agility, and comes with END and SPR increase.

What more could you ask for? XD

[whatever1234567]

Actually if my info is correct. Hide lasts until you attack something, you are attacked (like you mistakenly walk into an AOE), or if a sharpshooter dispels it. 5 minute cool down doesn't have me worried. I'll just use Hide, then take those five minutes to use the restroom, wash my hands, and get some snacks. If my hide is deactivated BAM! put it on again.

Your gonna have to use chain cast to do that. My guess is Hide won't start cooling down till after you turn it off. That is how it is in every other game.

[mehe25]

I'm gonna waste a fighters time by hiding and going afk BUAHAHA.

[whatever1234567]

I'm gonna waste a fighters time by hiding and going afk BUAHAHA.

Another one of my guess is that if he knows where you are he can use whirlwind to break your hide 8D. Or if he is on top of you he can just find you but that would require the devs to go into making stealth levels and alot of other stupid stuff that would cramp up our comps so they will prob just stick with if you use an aoe on top of the stealth char stealth breaks.

[deperaltap]

Well the skill list says here that Rangers also get (Binding) Seals your opponent's movement.. Binding = No more Deva from Fighter you;ll keep them stopped on tracks,hehe Its a every annoying skill to have on you.. I hate when the NOX mobs land them on me..cant even move..sometimes cant even attk... During pvp all you have to do is (Bind) Seals movement = (Hide) Hides yourself = (Entrap)Entrap Set boobyTrap =(Utmost Arrow) BLAM!! Pwnd! Do I nice cool down on Bind skill you'll throw it like a Fighter throws Deva.. I think Bow users are gonna pwn,

[goldhawk2]

ok so now im lost ._. you say ranger is the xbow user right? well on the fiestaonline.net website it says

Ranger: Rangers have incredibly fast agility. They can move extremely fast and unique skills. They can spy on the opponent and follow them secretly and even scout within the center of the monster crowds without being seen. Their endurance and spirit will increase that they can captivate their enemies and set booby traps everywhere. One demerit is that the booby trap land mine will explode, damaging both the enemies and allies.

when in the hell has the xbow been fast at anything :/

[berselius]

Yes, it seems kind of counter-intuitive, but Sharpshooters get the power while Rangers get the dexterity. Oh well. My decision to stick with a bow has finally payed off :P

[goldhawk2]

lol...so then a ranger is a bow user??

[Dragonfly77]

Ranger is the crossbow user

But I've been wondering, to get the full power as an DD archer, most people go with the 25spr rest str build, or full str. But it sounds like ranger is for pve and sharpshooter is for pvp. And ranger uses crossbow, which most DD archers use.

I'm guessing that the slow, powerful crossbow is meant to balance the speed and lack of strength of the ranger, where as the weak, fast bow is to balance the power and lack of speed of the sharpshooter.

All I'm hoping for is that a 25 spr rest str build will go well with rangers. >.<;;

[themichael]

25SPR full STR as a Ranger will make your ranger more balanced But you will lack the EVA most of them will have.

EDIT: Yet Sadly something tells me SS are gonna be Ranger Destroyers...sad...

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[berselius]

EDIT: Yet Sadly something tells me SS are gonna be Ranger Destroyers...sad..

Well I am not sure about DESTROYERS, but Sharpshooters are the only ones who can dispel a Ranger's Hide skill, IIRC. Phear ourz 1337 i-site!

[fireyair]

Well I am not sure about DESTROYERS, but Sharpshooters are the only ones who can dispel a Ranger's Hide skill, IIRC. Phear ourz 1337 i-site!

~Nyahahaha.

Hide, hide away, Rangers.



Peace:cool:

[Dragonfly77]

*hiding*
*gets dispelled by sharpshooter* snap!
*runs off as sharpshooter gives chase*
*leads him into the bombs*
*dissapears in a cloud of smoke*

Another way to conceal myself ~.~

[berselius]

Oh ya? Well I dun need to follow you. I'll just snipe from afar and never come anywhere near your trap card.

Seriously though, I'm gonna have so much fun with all the fighters who are about to get in range of me with devastate and blind/disarm them. I'll still probably lose without kiting, but at least I will irk them a bit XD

[Dragonfly77]

I want binding >:3

"How's it feel to be helplessly stuck in one spot, fighter, huh??"

Revenge from stun <3

[goldhawk2]

lol yeah....sharp shooters do sound really good....disarming our hide...disarm opponents...super fast attacks etc....

[bjackfrost]

Yes, but SS do have really beast CDs. From what I see, SS will indeed have an advantage over rangers but archers finally get the defensive skills they crave ( SS do get more defensive skills over rangers but again, their CDs are just really not practical for something like PvP KQ). Guessing binding max CD will be 2/3s so it'll be around 40~ seconds. Although I am worried entrap will have a stupid limitation like it can only be set in hide mode or it has an epic casting time which will be interrupted if attacked. I want to drop my bombs on chasers D<

I was worried before that rangers wouldn't be getting the extra power skill they needed but now that both classes do get utmost coupled with the fact that xbows have a higher natural base damage will at least give rangers a fighting chance to not fall that much behind SS's 1v1 damage. But distance shot really does seem like an epic skill <_<. I really want to know how it really works. Does it just have more range or is it like, once you're locked onto someone it'll hit them. Because then that would be win 8D.

[goldhawk2]

I hope you can get a second chance ._. or something....because I really dont wanna end up goin with the xbow (like I have always been before) and then it completely sucks compared to the sharpshooters skills :/ they do honestly get alot of the better skills....I just hope EVERYTHING is balanced....between branches and other classes...

what doesnt seem fair to me is that some people are going to want a little bit of both...like take the mage for example....wizards can teleport...but it doesnt really say what warlocks get :/ just that their skills are powerful..and they have bad def

and will all skills be split up? like...if xbow didnt have utmost arrow....I would probably quit playin fiesta ^^

and please....PLEASE....tell me that rangers get the long distance attack too >.< cuz thats SOOO not fair that someone with a bow can sit in FBZ1 and pick you off from the circular part of FBZ 1...... and then someone with an xbow would have to run all the way there....and....the xbow just wouldnt stand a chance >.< (on the otherhand clerics and fighters are OK because of...well...fighters have highest weapons, attack, def, and hp and clerics have high...def...idk about mages though :/ I guess teleport could make them lock off?)

[berselius]

Well think about it logically. A hand strung bow with have far more accurate and distant range than an automatic crossbow. It's only natural that this is true in-game as well as in reality. No Distant Shot for you :(

[fireyair]

Well think about it logically. A hand strung bow with have far more accurate and distant range than an automatic crossbow. It's only natural that this is true in-game as well as in reality. No Distant Shot for you :(

The longer the bow, and the more sturdy it is, the longer the shaft flies. There is no difference between a bow and a crossbow, only a bow has naturally varying speeds, while a crossbow is constant.



Peace:cool:

[berselius]

Well I was referring more to RL than in-game when I said that. I only meant it should carry over in game for the purpose of logic. If you are talking about RL archery then a crossbow doesn't have constant speed 0-0 Just with a bow it is all a matter of how fast you can reload. I mean, to my knowledge there are no automatic crossbows in existence (Though I could be wrong, and if so I require vids with which to gawk at).

[fireyair]

Repeating crossbow, look it up.


Peace:cool:

[berselius]

0-0

I must admit, I was not aware of this contraption.

Yet after watching some youtube videos of their use, I am further convinced of my original assessment. That reload action is awkward and certainly jerks the crossbow around quite a bit. This decreases the user's aim, which becomes a slowly escalating issue the farther away the target is, unless they have virtually unnatural steady hands.

[fireyair]

That's just someone without proper training. An amature.

However, have you ever seen an untrained individual using a bow? Takes about 5 minutes just to load an arrow, then shoots off the bow instead of the arrow. :rolleyes:



Peace:cool:

[bjackfrost]

I hope you can get a second chance ._. or something....because I really dont wanna end up goin with the xbow (like I have always been before) and then it completely sucks compared to the sharpshooters skills :/ they do honestly get alot of the better skills....I just hope EVERYTHING is balanced....between branches and other classes...

what doesnt seem fair to me is that some people are going to want a little bit of both...like take the mage for example....wizards can teleport...but it doesnt really say what warlocks get :/ just that their skills are powerful..and they have bad def

and will all skills be split up? like...if xbow didnt have utmost arrow....I would probably quit playin fiesta ^^

and please....PLEASE....tell me that rangers get the long distance attack too >.< cuz thats SOOO not fair that someone with a bow can sit in FBZ1 and pick you off from the circular part of FBZ 1...... and then someone with an xbow would have to run all the way there....and....the xbow just wouldnt stand a chance >.< (on the otherhand clerics and fighters are OK because of...well...fighters have highest weapons, attack, def, and hp and clerics have high...def...idk about mages though :/ I guess teleport could make them lock off?)

Utmost is the only shared skill (other than the AoE Bleed) so no worries :P. And really...unless distance shot is like 1hkoable damage ( Not counting hellgait since those are ridiculously broken at 91-12x) what good will it really do? Ohoho I can shoot you every 4 mins MILES AWAY 8D.

[fireyair]

Utmost is the only shared skill (other than the AoE Bleed) so no worries :P. And really...unless distance shot is like 1hkoable damage ( Not counting hellgait since those are ridiculously broken at 91-12x) what good will it really do? Ohoho I can shoot you every 4 mins MILES AWAY 8D.

Or, I can KS your boss mob from miles away. :eek:



Peace:cool:

[berselius]

Hmm, you are as tenacious as your sig indicates. I cannot disprove your point, yet I am unwilling to alter my view either. I suppose the best we can do is agree to disagree. In lieu of this I have only one thing to say in closing:

*Pulls down left eyelid and sticks out tongue* Nya~Nya~*Runs for dear life*

[fireyair]

Aha!

*Distance Shot*

*Loud 'Ping'-like soung heard in the distance, and Berselius's tiny frame is seen collapsing*

See? There's a use for it already.


Peace:cool:

[saint_attila]

I want binding >:3

"How's it feel to be helplessly stuck in one spot, fighter, huh??"

Revenge from stun <3

I want dispel purge. ;o

*uses dispel purge, removing all your buffs*

"Now you are phail and has no more boofs." *uses Hellgate hammer to smoosh j00*

:3


Aha!

*Distance Shot*

*Loud 'Ping'-like soung heard in the distance, and Berselius's tiny frame is seen collapsing*

See? There's a use for it already.


Peace:cool:

*points and laughs at Berselius*

[berselius]

Whew. It's a good thing I chose a popular avatar look. The arrow hit a completely innocent person who looks just like me ^^

...I ignored it at first, but a lot of the threads I posted in today go off topic eventually. I need more focus and training D:

[whatever1234567]

*goes on Knight*
"Hey guys whats up"
*army appears*
"oh cool"
*archers hide/run* *mages port or transform* *gladiators dash*
*clerics and me stay*
*army dies*
"Too easy didn't even scratch my perfect shield"

[bjackfrost]

Or, I can KS your boss mob from miles away. :eek:



Peace:cool:

Sure you do that, if you can target the boss first 8D. *Hides and walks to boss*
But really you just gave people a malicious idea D:. At least when I boss steal with hide they see me afterwards :P.

[fireyair]

~Nyahahaha.

Archers are the new bounty hunters.


Peace:cool:

[goldhawk2]

Utmost is the only shared skill (other than the AoE Bleed) so no worries :P. And really...unless distance shot is like 1hkoable damage ( Not counting hellgait since those are ridiculously broken at 91-12x) what good will it really do? Ohoho I can shoot you every 4 mins MILES AWAY 8D.

I was under the assumption that it was like a distance buff :/ isnt there some kinda lock on thingy? there has to be...cuz whats the point in that skill if you cant even lock on to them

[themichael]

Hmm...
I'm a PvP archer...
PvP is probably the only thing that keeps me playing fiesta and Now I'm beginning to think that the SharpShooters will Be the PvP heads and the Rangers; the Solo AoE Maniacs. I originally planned on ranger (since Im an XBow user and think Blinding/entangle/entrap was cool But Now I'm not to sure.

Any 1 have an Idea on what the PvP class would be?

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Niiro]

sharpshooter is pvp, no doubt about it. except when our Fiesta decides to do everything totally different than fiestaonline.net says...
sharpshooters are said to be best at 1 vs 1 battles and their STR and SP increase...
they also get disarm.(wich only works at players cause Mobs have no weps) detect(to cancel hide mode of thew rangers..) blind and unguard work on mobs too but i'm not sure...
and rangers get all the handy skills in the field...
hide, so they can egt everywhere without being hit.
entrap, always handy.... put a trap on the road... lure mobs...BOOM!!!! i <3 rangers
and i think rangers are alson the TANK archer class... since they get more END.

i think rangers are good in PVP , but Sharpshooter is the PVP class...

[themichael]

I was afraid of that...

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Niiro]

hehe... i don't have to be Sharpshooter if u don't want. I'm sure ranger are good in PvP aswell. think of this... : You are fighting against a fighter. youre running like hell so he won't hit you. but somewhere he will reach you, stun you, kill you. but this time. your a Ranger! he reaches you , and you dissapear!( hide mode!) walk to a safe distance, and start attacking the fighter again... PWN!!!!


So they won't be that bad at PvP,
and i think sharpshooters will suck against monsters, so you wont lv up so fast. most of their skills only work against players...and sharpshooters look dumb...

So that's why I'm going to be a ranger for sure!

[themichael]

Or just dodge it with the massice EVA boost.

somethings tellin me SSs will be Mage type/Archer type/cleric type killers and Rangers will be Mage type/Gladiator/(the weaker)cleric/Raneger killers.

In other words... SSs will kill the DDs and the Rangers will have a better survival/kill rate against fighters and clerics. (assuming Entangle still blocks skills.)

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Niiro]

yeah, maybe it is.
i'm wondering what stat is better on ranger... DEX or STR

[themichael]

Well...
If you wanna be more balanced with your Ranger then STR would be better.

If you want to maxamize your advantages over other Rangers and have the highest EVA/AIM in the game then DEX would be best.

ATM Im thinkin Ima go 25SPR 50DEX 50STR then if i have enough points, Specialize in DEX.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Niiro]

i think i'm going for the 25SPR/STR build and see if i can add some dex later on...:D

BTW we're the only ones posting on this topic....kinda strange no one else does.

[themichael]

I went 25SPR full STR...dont do it.
Once you hit lvl 51 you'll regret it. Its more difficult to solo a large number mobs.

I advise the 25SPR 50DEX full STR build.
or at least go 25SPR 1:1 DEX:STR. Survival is much more important.

BTW: Idid notice :)

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Niiro]

oh ok, i will start with dex then, and just use some power scrolls instead of STR...

[allyyCORE]

I recently went to fiestaonline.net...and I was looking through all the lvl 110 skill and then found the lvl 110 or 120 classes...and I find out that all those amazing skills at 110 are being split up!! D: we wont get every skill we need....this really really sucks!! but is it right? will we get half and half or will xbow and bow users get to use these amazing skills!?! I praaayyy that we get to both use them.....

actually, you will get every skill you need.
By splitting classes and restricting those skills pertaining to the other class, you won't waste your money.

It's like buying a fighter skill scroll for an archer.
It's an awesome skill, but it's not ment for your class, period.

[Niiro]

actually, you will get every skill you need.
By splitting classes and restricting those skills pertaining to the other class, you won't waste your money.

It's like buying a fighter skill scroll for an archer.
It's an awesome skill, but it's not ment for your class, period.

woot someone else posted in this thread!!!