Petition to ban Abyss Threads

[Asmodejjj]

It's getting hella old and annoying..........anyone who wants to stop the inflow of these threads, vote here >.>

[zues8844]

I say ban.........idiots can't even read the big yellow letters that obviously say it's a pvp place.......

[andrey1990]

Yes !
Yes !
Yes !
<3

[Nephron]

I have no wish to see any more abyss-related threads (of which this is one, ironically), but if one kind of thread suddenly gets prohibited, it'll set a bad precedent.

As the saying goes with the abyss, "If you don't like it, don't go in." The same applies to abyss-related threads: if you don't like them, don't read them or post in them.

[heavylove]

I voted no simply because everyone has the right to come to the forums and start threads and post about whatever they like. Although I would rather not see 99999999 threads on the abyss, they have every right to be there.

[whatever1234567]

Only thing more annoying then an abyss complaint thread is a thread complaining about people complaining about abyss.

[Dthugtherealist]

I say Ban the threads were people complain about being killed in abyss all the time the only way to fix that prob is if you either supe up your self and hand down the pwnage on them or you just recognize you can't right now and your too weak. Other wise I don't mind constructive criticism thread about the abyss. I don't advocate pk'ing tho I hate it -_-" Why should a High lvl have the choice of taking a lower lvls right to exp and a lil cash on the side?? To me thats messed up but watever. We wouldn't have probs like this if the abyss was left the way it was seriously............

[wannabeguyo]

I chose no for the kicks.

[KanesAssassin]

I put yes, but its a very borderline one. On one side, I am also tired of posts of "zomg i got pked i hate my life, hate os, hate peoples, you all sucksor" pointless flaming threads that do absolutely nothing to help anyone. Whats been said before is true, it is a pvp field, you take that risk on entrance, and if you die I don't want to hear your sob stories all day every day (no offense intended just being honest). On the other, I don't want to say ban because there are some people who have actual constructive advice on the abyss, and are just saying their opinion. I confess that might be a little slanted because I personally have some problems with the current abyss system, considering at 86 people can just waltz into the 7x, and kill whoever without trying. If people kept it to simple suggestion and advice, I don't think it would have gotten this bad. Overall though, I think there should be a single thread for suggestions and advice only, and all others banned.

[DF001]

Hell yeah, marry me Asmodej.

[Asmodejjj]

Only thing more annoying then an abyss complaint thread is a thread complaining about people complaining about abyss.

If you're not going to be productive, don't post ;)


@ Doof, transfer to my server =D

[andrey1990]

hell yeah, marry me asmodej.

:( .

[FlashBoom]

omg YES, please make all abyss drama related threads being closed or deleted.

i mean like a "where is the abyss?" "what is abyss?" is alright, but i sick of seeing "this guy killed me in abyss and i lost 10%!"

[badfury]

yes i am sick of hearing ppl who got pk in abyss casue it their risk for going in a pvp zone complaining on and on about abyss

[devin_nicolai]

Hell yeah, marry me Asmodej.

I thought we were married D;

[yourmojo]

I say yes, although I agree with most peoples' complaints I think the threads are far too numerous. I think a general sticky should be added to this forum:

http://outspark.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=188

All threads in the general section should be either moved, or better; locked and given a link to the sticky.

[Asmodejjj]

If everyone I say I married I actually married, I'd be a huge polygamist xD

[darthnish]

destroy abyss threads plox , and new class plox ones as well >.>

[spookyiness]

i think banning "all" abyss threads is a little short sighted - it needs to be a lot more descriptive.
yes, we all get annoyed with the number of threads that adress the pvp aspect of the game, cause it's pvp, and complaining about being killed isn't gonna stop that.
but just occasionally, there are abyss questions and threads that don't fall into that category, and they should be allowed.

but if you're looking for autobannable threads, 'quitting' threads and threads that promote blacklisting already fall into that category, but things like 'when's the new server coming', 'ooo, i looked at the korean website and took 300 screenies even though there's a very active thread with all that info in it, and the 200 other duplicates, or the the "imbalance" threads that keep popping up every day, or any of the other overly duplicated threads.

i fully understand that sometimes threads die, and the subject comes up again, and yes, it's acceptable then, as long as you aren't asking a question 200 other people asked (search is a wonderful feature to answer your questions), and yes, people tend to get just as upset if you revive an old dead thread as if you start your own, so sometimes it's harder for the newer players to know what to do...

but i vote "no", cause you shouldn't auto-kill ALL abyss threads, just the 'why did so and so kill me' ones.

[gibson82650]

i vote no >.> all you pkers dont give a damn well what about the ppl geting pked they make threds cuase OS is BS and at least take away the exp loss its just so you buy my sc well skrew you OS =/

[fireyair]

Meh. I voted yes. I think the issue has been thoroughly voice and any further discussion is pointless.



Peace:cool:

[Lety23]

I agree. It is getting very annoying seeing thread after thread after thread about abyss. However, not all threads should be prohibited.

In my opinion, it should only be the ones that complain about abyss or just want to try and get rid of it. There are threads that offer suggestions on abyss that could actually work. Those threads should remain open so other people can adjust ideas and discuss.

[dwn1byz]

i vote no >.> all you pkers dont give a damn well what about the ppl geting pked they make threds cuase OS is BS and at least take away the exp loss its just so you buy my sc well skrew you OS =/i agree with you! but i think it needs to go the next step. thats where only people in a party can attack another party. solo not included...then it will be plain to see who's there for fighting and whos there to collect mats and exp. and that would stop all the forums dead in there tracks.:)

[yourmojo]

all you pkers dont give a damn well what about the ppl geting pked they make threds cuase OS is BS and at least take away the exp loss its just so you buy my sc well skrew you OS =/The issue is not who is right or who is wrong...Having tons of threads being made makes it impossible to have a decent argument without flames and nonsense. Having a general sticky instead of all these threads would actually benefit both sides of the argument; including regular users trying to browse the forums.

[kevinyou40]

now, this is funny. people complain because of killing in the abyss without reason, or span killing. and now you people want to ban there ideas, thoughts and complaints. because you can't just not read the thread like you don't have a choice. The forum is for all kinds of things even complaining. If you don't like it read another and move on. As i was always told "the squeeky wheel gets the grease" and they are squeeking as loud as they can to get something changed. So, don't be surprised if something gets changed sometime to smooth you the squeeky bearings. and it won't be a ban on there thoughts. If you ban them from speaking there mind, where does it stop.

[12markkram34]

If you wanna rampage, PM me (offer still open)!

[firog]

I have no wish to see any more abyss-related threads (of which this is one, ironically), but if one kind of thread suddenly gets prohibited, it'll set a bad precedent.

As the saying goes with the abyss, "If you don't like it, don't go in." The same applies to abyss-related threads: if you don't like them, don't read them or post in them.

wut nephron said....duh!
simple as that

[stormyxone]

People should be able to post whatever they want to, as long as it doesn't violate the forum rules. You can always choose not to read abyss threads.

[gibson82650]

People should be able to post whatever they want to, as long as it doesn't violate the forum rules. You can always choose not to read abyss threads.

exactly so stop reading them ppl and quit complaing your jsut as bad as the ppl complaing about the abyss =/


i agree with you! but i think it needs to go the next step. thats where only people in a party can attack another party. solo not included...then it will be plain to see who's there for fighting and whos there to collect mats and exp. and that would stop all the forums dead in there tracks.

exactly i was just int eh lvl 30 wiht my lvl 28 noob fighter and i try ot make a party they see what lvl i am ban me and kill me IT TOOK 4 PPL to kill me :D all lvl 40's ^^ so yea if it takes that much lvl 40's theri really weak and need to gtfo and stop teaming me solo me lol id beat them but 4 lvl 40's vs 1 lvl 28 ? see what im talign about ppl this is BS!!!!!1 i can understand if a player and a player sets it up ( hence pvp) but tvp (team vs player) whats with that ? also pk is player kill there is no player kill in a normal pvp 1 person just dies cuase he was lesser and the ppl a probly friends i make lots of friends like this but when a crazy psycho crack adicted man/girl with a +9 just goes around killign ppl THATS PK so note the diffrence and respect everyone play nice and STOP PKING ppl so they dont make abyss threads thank you " the wise wolf has spoken"

[mehe25]

It's getting hella old and annoying..........anyone who wants to stop the inflow of these threads, vote here >.>

Who cares, there aloud to express their thoughts.

Anyway your not forced to read them >.>

[Sharlyne]

I say no then i will be bored D: cuz does thread make me lol D:<

[hypergummi]

i voted no, for several reasons:

*as stated before, nobody is forcing anyone to read/post in the threads......... if you don't like them, don't post in them and let them die

*I've read threads on the abyss, where good times were talked about.... a ban on abyss threads would include those as well

*the abyss system does need to be looked at...... threads about the abyss brings eveyones attention to the problems that occur

In short, a ban like this would lead to a whole new kind of censorship......... if it goes through, whats to stop someone from saying "I'm tired of seeing KQ leeching threads, i want a ban on them!". Be very careful what you wish for.... because you just might get it.........

[gibson82650]

i voted no, for several reasons:

*as stated before, nobody is forcing anyone to read/post in the threads......... if you don't like them, don't post in them and let them die

*I've read threads on the abyss, where good times were talked about.... a ban on abyss threads would include those as well

*the abyss system does need to be looked at...... threads about the abyss brings eveyones attention to the problems that occur

In short, a ban like this would lead to a whole new kind of censorship......... if it goes through, whats to stop someone from saying "I'm tired of seeing KQ leeching threads, i want a ban on them!". Be very careful what you wish for.... because you just might get it.........

listen to this wise man ^o^ ~Howls!~

[coldstone]

i will point out that once clerics could heal you even in a war, then there were those who whined and now our abilites are hobbled, who are you to cry about something?. pvp is a bad deal esp when your just trying to level and catch up on some cash for your stones, lets talk about class balance some more the issues that really, matter and i voted no btw i want all expressions even the ones who said why was i killed while trying to do my own thing? PK= Fail, PVP = Discontent, PVP+PK= you get the picture

[gibson82650]

i will point out that once clerics could heal you even in a war, then there were those who whined and now our abilites are hobbled, who are you to cry about something?. pvp is a bad deal esp when your just trying to level and catch up on some cash for your stones, lets talk about class balance some more the issues that really, matter and i voted no btw i want all expressions even the ones who said why was i killed while trying to do my own thing? PK= Fail, PVP = Discontent, PVP+PK= you get the picture

lol wut ?

10 chars

[twiztedcriminal]

i voted no becuase i hate losing exp

[coldstone]

lol wut ?

10 chars

read it slowly, it points out that an entire class was nerfed cuse someone whined, be careful what you wish for! and it also points out my personal feeling about pvp pk and abyss, pvp isn't a conductive method to the fostering of friendships especially at higher levels where it becomes harder and harder to restore exp.

[FlashBoom]

im just wounder why are people voting "no"

sorry but im going to have to be very blunt w/ this so maybe they actually understand it...

as i said the "i was killed in abyss" "please ban this guy for killing me" those kind of threads should be closed or deleted or made a sticky for all abyss drama.

Directed @ Gibson

Because i voted yes does not make me a pker, i hate them, and my mage is mage purely for pve, i think ppl who camp the 20abyss and pk should get hit by a bus tomorrow. w/e
but if i get killed idc, i just either go somewhere else in abyss or leave, maybe you can start more drama and get friends/guildies to come help you.
if you keep getting spam killed in abyss and losing like 10% LEAVE you retard!!!!

(Remember that not letting someone leave a pvp zone IS against ToS and can be punished with ban time. if this has happened to you report it. Take screenie of you saying are you going to let me leave? it is against ToS to not let me leave, or something)

Or maybe try going there when you dont see as many people, or maybe go to rooms they usually dont go to, dont go at all, or just ake yourself stronger so you can kill them if they try to kill you. There are many solutions. Making 10threads a day will not change anything, it wont make GMs tell OOS to change anything.

i do agree losing exp from other players in abyss sucks and should be taken out but i dont make countless threads about it

but i sick of seeing the threads

the "you dont have to read them" comment, i dont read them, it just it spams the forums and maybe bumps peoples real posts to other pages, and makes unnecessary clutter.

If you have ever read the forums rules.....

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i voted no becuase i hate losing exp
how does that have any relevance to this thread? you lose exp so you think there should be spam threads on the forums? please come back and talk to me when you grow up or maybe use your brain for something more then being stupid.

abyss threads are just 1 of many that should have their own sticky or be deleted on sight...


Please dont lower yourself and make yourself seem more dumb then you already look, by trying to have a battle of wits with me...
because you seem to have come unarmed


Thank you ^^
have a nice day

[Shera1]

LEAVE you retard!!!!

.....or just ake yourself stronger so you can kill them if they try to kill you. There are many solutions. Making 10threads a day will not change anything, it wont make GMs tell OOS to change anything.

.....the "you dont have to read them" comment, i dont read them, it just it spams the forums and maybe bumps peoples real posts to other pages, and makes unnecessary clutter.

.....please come back and talk to me when you grow up or maybe use your brain for something more then being stupid.

abyss threads are just 1 of many that should have their own sticky or be deleted on sight...


Please dont lower yourself and make yourself seem more dumb then you already look, by trying to have a battle of wits with me...
because you seem to have come unarmed


Thank you ^^
have a nice day

Its obvious you did not attempt to discern what was being said, but chose instead to attack a poster for their concern with an exploitation.

When all else fails, sometimes its best to keep your keyboard quiet rather than proving accusations toward another probably apply to yourself by keying in the fact that you came unarmed.

Personal attacks have no place in these forums, however, concerns about ToS violations are exactly why posters are entitled to post their comments.

[FlashBoom]

Its obvious you did not attempt to discern what was being said, but chose instead to attack a poster for their concern with an exploitation.

When all else fails, sometimes its best to keep your keyboard quiet rather than proving accusations toward another probably apply to yourself by keying in the fact that you came unarmed.

Personal attacks have no place in these forums, however, concerns about ToS violations are exactly why posters are entitled to post their comments.

and now you are "attacking" me so does that make you any better then i am?
yes, quote my post out of context, makes you look so much better

now really did you even read the "main" point of my post?
i dont think so or maybe it you really didnt comprehend it
please read it again, in its proper context

and in no way did i "attack" anyone, i just pointed out the human flaw and stupidity in peoples bias posts, in the sense of them saying they should not take out the 100s of posts about the same topic, i had to say it bluntly because sometimes that is the only way to get people to listen...

now if you dont mind i think ill go do something productive and make a way to get cl to sticky me a thread that will contain all abyss problems people are having. unlike you making pointless posts

btw, that last sentence in my post does apply to you
now please maybe do a post thats on topic please?

now im leaving on that note, you can stay here and waste your time arguing with yourself if it will build your self-esteem or make yourself feel better

[YoshimaruOrona]

and in no way did i "attack" anyone, i just pointed out the human flaw and stupidity in peoples bias posts, in the sense of them saying they should not take out the 100s of posts about the same topic, i had to say it bluntly because sometimes that is the only way to get people to listen...

I'm pretty sure calling someone's opinion "stupid" in the view of the public can be considered an attack (or at the least, an insult). You can tell someone the truth as bluntly as you like by doing so in a whisper or a PM. That's just me though, maybe we have different thoughts on that note. It doesn't really matter, I'm off-topic anyway.

I voted "no" because of the vagueness of the question.

ALL Abyss-related threads? Er, no.

I posted a topic concerning abyss not very long ago (it should be on the 2nd or 3rd page right now, idk), and I didn't get anyone complaining because the subject of the topic was abyss.

Not every thread is repetitive, but a lot are. Specify the ban to threads revolving around being PK'd, and I'll change my vote to a "yes".

[FlashBoom]

I'm pretty sure calling someone's opinion "stupid" in the view of the public can be considered an attack (or at the least, an insult). You can tell someone the truth as bluntly as you like by doing so in a whisper or a PM. That's just me though, maybe we have different thoughts on that note. It doesn't really matter, I'm off-topic anyway.

I voted "no" because of the vagueness of the question.

ALL Abyss-related threads? Er, no.

I posted a topic concerning abyss not very long ago (it should be on the 2nd or 3rd page right now, idk), and I didn't get anyone complaining because the subject of the topic was abyss.

Not every thread is repetitive, but a lot are. Specify the ban to threads revolving around being PK'd, and I'll change my vote to a "yes".


im sure the OP, ment was that threads that contain the same negative things about abysses should be closed.

but imo calling someone stupid isnt really attacking.

im saying people are stupid for saying abyss threads should stay open because "i lose exp"
maybe he ment something then what he said? idk, but the way i interpret it was "i think abyss threads should keep being posted because i lose exp"

(really what does that have to do with anything? lose exp from mobs? other people? do you think abyss should lose exp from other people? the post was really vague and to the topic in hand, made no sense)

or saying people who think the threads should be closed are pkers and what ever, when they base that on nothing but bias opinions or mis interpretation

and what im saying isnt bias either, i think somethings in abyss are wrong, but the need to allow people to constantly flood the forums with the same exact post is ok and should be allowed?

maybe at i happen to be in a bad mood so my post might have alittle bit of anger in it, but the truth is still there regaurdless.

again you have to look at the "main" point of what i said and maybe stray away from the fact that i was saying "stupid" and really, people who stay in abyss getting killed, losing lots of exp are retarded, a person with sense would have left....

but i have made a thread that i have pmed a cl to sticky which will hopefully help this situation

[DF001]

i vote no >.> all you pkers dont give a damn well what about the ppl geting pked they make threds cuase OS is BS and at least take away the exp loss its just so you buy my sc well skrew you OS =/

OF COURSE no one cares if someone died, BECAUSE THEY DIED IN A PvP ZONE >_>


i voted no becuase i hate losing exp

So what? You don't want them banned so you can complain after you die? It's not like we're suggesting GMs to spawn 47484846784 mobs on you with no way out.



This is awesome. 40 posts and 62 votes. Anyone creating alt accs? <3

[boo18white]

OF COURSE no one cares if someone died, BECAUSE THEY DIED IN A PvP ZONE >_>


This is awesome. 40 posts and 62 votes. Anyone creating alt accs? <3


Some of us just vote and dont post. nuthin wrong with that.

[DF001]

Some of us just vote and dont post. nuthin wrong with that.

That fact is not productive, voting without giving your opinion is almost nothing.

[Myn19]

I voted no,if abyss threads get banned we might as well ban all threads about buffing,clerics in general actualy XD(no one ever actualy brings something positive besides the guides and cecilias thread on who loves being a cleric lol),there's way too many complaints about fighters in pvp not necessarily abyss anyway.
Think of it this way,if they vent here they won't take it onto other people ingame.The majority of fiesta doesn't seem to visit the forums so the *bug* won't spread as much.

[gannon5069]

I reckon they should seriously look at the screen because it comes up with ' this area is enabled for pvp'.

[dwn1byz]

OF COURSE no one cares if someone died, BECAUSE THEY DIED IN A PvP ZONE >_>



So what? You don't want them banned so you can complain after you die? It's not like we're suggesting GMs to spawn 47484846784 mobs on you with no way out.



This is awesome. 40 posts and 62 votes. Anyone creating alt accs? <3something else that has crossed my mind is.... the abyss seems to be the only place you can obtain some of the prod. skills. i think some pkers do their thing just to be able to make these items cost so much... serously 1-5g per skill thats robbery. but if you cant stay alive long enough to find one then you will pay their price...which is supporting the cause your fighting against. for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. if you buy these scrolls from them...then they get better gear and you take more of a butt whoopin the next time. if they are selling these scrolls then they have spent some real time there( for they dont drop often)which means your supporting the ones that are pking you.:cool:

kinda shady huhh... to know all along your helpin them kill u.

might be the wrong place to post this
if you feel it is...
then sorry.

but.... knowledge is the key... try to understand their motivations.

[Asmodejjj]

i vote no >.> all you pkers dont give a damn well what about the ppl geting pked they make threds cuase OS is BS and at least take away the exp loss its just so you buy my sc well skrew you OS =/

Think I haven't gotten killed? I just take it like it is, and don't post 50 threads about how much I suck at PVP.....


now, this is funny. people complain because of killing in the abyss without reason, or span killing. and now you people want to ban there ideas, thoughts and complaints. because you can't just not read the thread like you don't have a choice. The forum is for all kinds of things even complaining. If you don't like it read another and move on. As i was always told "the squeeky wheel gets the grease" and they are squeeking as loud as they can to get something changed. So, don't be surprised if something gets changed sometime to smooth you the squeeky bearings. and it won't be a ban on there thoughts. If you ban them from speaking there mind, where does it stop.

This is a game, not a squeaky wheel bro. If you read all the stupid threads complaining about how much the PK'd suck, you'd want to shoot yourself.


If you wanna rampage, PM me (offer still open)!

I'm honestly thinking about hitting 66, and staying in the 5x abyss to REALLY show what PK'ing means to the whiny kids here......


People should be able to post whatever they want to, as long as it doesn't violate the forum rules. You can always choose not to read abyss threads.

True, but it's like the 'servers are down threads ***dskfslkfj?'. It gets so old, no one cares and it's actually spam posting.


I reckon they should seriously look at the screen because it comes up with ' this area is enabled for pvp'.

Thank you, my point exactly ;)

[darthnish]

lol i may have been the start of a few the abyss threads :3

[hypergummi]

ok this thread is starting to turn into a flame war, so this will be my last post on it........someone asked me what was wrong with the abyss... well:

*loss of exp when you lose a pvp match: with this, outspark put a price on keeping ones hard earned exp in the abyss (as in if you don't wanna lose exp from pvp. you'd have to get a blessing of teva)

*implementation of kill points for the abyss: This turned just about every abyss into killing fields, and the start of countless guild wars and harassment issues

*Entrance level changes: i remember when you had to be 60-69 to enter the lvl 60 abyss, but this has changed........ myself being lvl 7X, i can enter the lvl 60 abyss, and if i wanted to, kill anyone i wanted. This is a problem because someone 10+ lvls lower doesn't really have a chance against someone 10+ lvls above them.... so once again wars get started.

Now the real problems get started when you get a few people who go into a lower lvl abyss for the express purpose to farm kill points. the lower lvl players have virtually no defense against this. So the call higher lvl friends, wars get started, other friends get called into it...... and it gets to be a huge mess, and usually ends up with a few players in jail.

Now these topics were brought up in abyss threads that i have read. These are valid rants about the abyss, and people have the right to voice their opinions about it.
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Now as for the argument of "abyss threads push down other threads"..... well if nobody is actually posting in the abyss threads, then the threads that people are posting in will hop over it, pushing it down fast.... so once again, if you don't wanna see them, don't post in them, and they'll be gone from the front page in half a day max
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As i have stated before, this would be a whole new kind of censorship......... banning threads about the abyss would set off a chain reaction......... first abyss threads.......... then class bashing threads (like "fighters are overpowered", "fix the archers", "failed clerics" etc etc), then KQ leeching, then the next thing ya know, you'd only be able to post "i love outspark, i will give them all my money" on the forums... until someone wants to ban that............


as always........ be very careful what you wish for.... because you just might get it

[saiyou8]

Everyone has the right to tell their opinion, but I agree it's kinda annoying to read 100+ threads about how someone got killed in abyss. It's a pvp area, you decide not to enter or to enter. It's all up to you.
On the other hand, it's good to know what is happening in the abysses. Maybe more people understand to stay out if they don't want to get killed.

Even though killing someone in the middle of aoe is just rude. It just makes you, the attacker, look like a total idiot.

Can't help it, it's pvp.

[mehe25]

Don't like it, don't read it.

[kevinyou40]

Think I haven't gotten killed? I just take it like it is, and don't post 50 threads about how much I suck at PVP.....



This is a game, not a squeaky wheel bro. If you read all the stupid threads complaining about how much the PK'd suck, you'd want to shoot yourself.



I'm honestly thinking about hitting 66, and staying in the 5x abyss to REALLY show what PK'ing means to the whiny kids here......



True, but it's like the 'servers are down threads ***dskfslkfj?'. It gets so old, no one cares and it's actually spam posting.



Thank you, my point exactly ;)
I do read all the threads everyday about 3 times a day i check them for updates. I don't complain that there complaining. I ponder if there is something to the complaint. We have many differant players in the game and differant thoughts on how it should go. If you look at the updates we have got and the updates that where available for the game you will notice we don't get them all. Do you ever wonder why, do they choose what to add and change to match what the people want? Silky asked once what do we care more about the game, community or what so he could better understand to make it better.

btw, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" is an old saying and i find it to be true in many cases.

[Asmodejjj]

lol i may have been the start of a few the abyss threads :3




As long as you aren't complaining about dying, be my guest :p

btw, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" is an old saying and i find it to be true in many cases.

First time in 16 years I've heard it >.>





It looks like I wasn't clear enough, I only want threads dealing with whiny kids who died in the abyss to be gone. Normal discussions can still be posted, just not the usual 'amfg i g0tz killed and iz scr3wing up wh0l3 g4m3' part >.>

[k7leetha]

Yes, let's ban speech, that's a good start....

*SARCASM*

[Asmodejjj]

You didn't read my last post, did you?

[fireyair]

Yes, let's ban speech, that's a good start....

*SARCASM*

A speech ban can occasionally be very useful.

*Hint-hint*



Peace:cool:

[FlashBoom]

ill just have to post this on every page of this thread lol
i think they should be deleted because:



9 Prior to creating a new thread, please use the search function to see if a similar if not identical thread already exists (see above). Multiple-type threads will be subject to merging and/or deletion.

it is against forum rules, that people should "READ before posting"

[kevinyou40]

[QUOTE=Asmodejjj;2205561]First time in 16 years I've heard it >.>




lol, yeah sometimes i show my age. hehe

[mehe25]

If you DO NOT like these threads then DO NOT read them.

Because it DOES NOT force you to.

[FlashBoom]

If you DO NOT like these threads then DO NOT read them.

Because it DOES NOT force you to.

who are you talking to lol?
you are assuming i reading them, i dont.

but they waste a spot on forums a real post could have had, it floods the forums, making it like a spam filled site, and bumps people's threads to the 2nd/3rd+ pages where people dont look as much

[mehe25]

who are you talking to lol?
you are assuming i reading them, i dont.

but they waste a spot on forums a real post could have had, it floods the forums, making it like a spam filled site, and bumps people's threads to the 2nd/3rd+ pages where people dont look as much

Who do you think I'm talking to?

The only real places they flood are the general section and PvP section, narrowing that down to 2. Not much.

You can always bump up these real threads.The only reason why abyss threads stay alive so long is because they're replied to all the time, thats why I say not to read them so it dies out.

Reading usualy leads to replying, replying leads to bumping, and bumping leads to the death of real threads.

[gibson82650]

who are you talking to lol?
you are assuming i reading them, i dont.

but they waste a spot on forums a real post could have had, it floods the forums, making it like a spam filled site, and bumps people's threads to the 2nd/3rd+ pages where people dont look as much

a real thred excuse me but this is the only thred even nameing the word forum in teh number 1 slot atm >.> so shut it

[fireyair]

a real thred excuse me but this is the only thred even nameing the word forum in teh number 1 slot atm >.> so shut it

I don't care much for your view point on these abyss threads, you are entitled to your own opinion. I will however, protest and denounce any further attempt to flame someone who does not agree with your opinions. An argument is discussed in a calm, orderly manner. If you fail to adhere to these basic principles of conversation, your opinion amounts to about the same as a ten year old's.

As a reply, I will point out the fact that it takes a complete idiot to post a "I got killed in PvP" thread when on the same page he sees a petition against such threads.

Additionally, since in the past 48 hours, the servers had so much downtime, that no one had time to get mad at someone in PvP. Everyone were running around to make use of the 50% EXP increase.

Finally, I will point out to you that most of the threads posted that fit in the category this thread is criticizing, are not posted here. As a matter of fact, these threads are not allowed to be posted here. They belong in the PvP folder, not General Discussion.

Please rationalize your answers before blurting them out in such a disrespectful manner; thank you, and have a good day/night.


Peace:cool:

[gibson82650]

I don't care much for your view point on these abyss threads, you are entitled to your own opinion. I will however, protest and denounce any further attempt to flame someone who does not agree with your opinions. An argument is discussed in a calm, orderly manner. If you fail to adhere to these basic principles of conversation, your opinion amounts to about the same as a ten year old's.

As a reply, I will point out the fact that it takes a complete idiot to post a "I got killed in PvP" thread when on the same page he sees a petition against such threads.

Additionally, since in the past 48 hours, the servers had so much downtime, that no one had time to get mad at someone in PvP. Everyone were running around to make use of the 50% EXP increase.

Finally, I will point out to you that most of the threads posted that fit in the category this thread is criticizing, are not posted here. As a matter of fact, these threads are not allowed to be posted here. They belong in the PvP folder, not General Discussion.

Please rationalize your answers before blurting them out in such a disrespectful manner; thank you, and have a good day/night.


Peace:cool:

lols i really dont care what oyu have to say XD i was just proving a point

[mehe25]

lols i really dont care what oyu have to say XD i was just proving a point

You weren't really proving anything.....


Originally Posted by gibson82650 View Post
a real thred excuse me but this is the only thred even nameing the word forum in teh number 1 slot atm >.> so shut it

[KiSsGod]

I say No. If something is wrong with Fiesta as a game, players have a freedom to say what they think. That is how we make game masters hear us and see that we are upset, in hopes of changing or coming up with a compromise. If the threads really bother anyone that much, then they dont have read them, freedom of speech ftw D:.

[mehe25]

True.BUT they all have the same problem.
"Before making a thread use the search option" is what we say when there are 10 threads on the same subject.But not abyss threads....i don't see how are they different.Instead of making another abyss thread scroll down or go to second page i bet there will be a couple similar threads. <.<

People like to make their own threads so they'd be heard, they'd be center of attention. Searching up someone else's thread is just hearing what someone else has to say, it doesn't really relieve the anger inside the indivigual.

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

Every abyss thread is either a complaint or a suggestion, I do agree that some of them come up very often, but sooner or later people will actually offer really good ideas on how to solve the current Abyss Issue.

We know that Abyss is a PvP area and so no one should complain about being killed by other parties or such. But there is some serious abuse going on in the Abysses which does need attention, so its good when people give ideas to solve it.

*Votes "No..."*

[Asmodejjj]

Lol, we're tied with 92 votes >.<


I like an idea someone else said, just make 1 thread where everyone can post.........

[cercia]

One venting thread would be fine.

But I'm against banning "all" Abyss threads, because if another issue ever arises with Abyss Abuse (AA.... XD), then there needs to be a way for us to make it known.

[gibson82650]

lol, we're tied with 92 votes >.<


i like an idea someone else said, just make 1 thread where everyone can post.........

not fer long >: D

[lenore_lurks]

As much as they annoy me... no.

There are too many issues around the topic of abyss to say all should be closed. If someone says something already covered, maybe we can just direct them to the information/thread.

Maybe have a sticked thread with a consolidation of issues and info which can be refered to as needed, but not everything can or should be covered. Putting a blanket ruling on all abyss threads will cause anger, and people don't always take note of stickied threads >.>

This forum used to have like, a wall of stickied threads, and it's really not the solution to people's problems, they just take up space. If a thread can already be answered using information from another thread, the OP should be refered to such info and the thread should be closed soon after (maybe wait 24 hours for OP to reply if they want to, then auto-close?)

[DF001]

I say No. If something is wrong with Fiesta as a game, players have a freedom to say what they think. That is how we make game masters hear us and see that we are upset, in hopes of changing or coming up with a compromise. If the threads really bother anyone that much, then they dont have read them, freedom of speech ftw D:.

Dude, one thing is reporting a bug, another thing is complaining everyday that you died on a place that you're supposed to die.

[UzumakiW]

Meh...yeah, they do get annoying, boring, and repetitive at times, but it's no big deal to me, really. I just tend to ignore them. Some have some interesting ideas to think about when it comes to abyss, though, most don't. So, I voted no on this one.

I've seen far worse threads out there that they allow (i.e: Those "I'm going to draw attention/drama to myself with this thread to prove to one person I wasn't charming in PvP" threads.)