The Worst Of Mages

[gym101]

The worst about mages are well low sternght but wat do you think?:confused:

[TheOnlyOne]

The worst thing about a mage is being paper thin.... dying ftw!

[Kalipso]

Total lack off deffence at close combat. That's why I left my mage for a cleric. If he only could use magic shots ;)

[DarkCrystal]

i have no problem with mage. i all way kill them before they hit me. wel. it maybe because i put all me pt in to magic attack:D

btw. i vote it other for i have no problem

[Forfirith]

From my experience with mages, I arrived at the conclusion that if u don't have a cleric with u (after lvl20) ur gonna spend all ur silver in stones and pots... our hp is pathetic and our attacks consume too much sp... and like some1 said the life tap kills us after 2 uses without hp restoring.... and the equivalence to this exchange? pathetic... seeing as our hp is so weak...

[Soul.of.Trance]

Total lack off deffence at close combat. That's why I left my mage for a cleric. If he only could use magic shots ;)

Then he'd be Over powered.

The worst feature a mage has is the cool down time on ANYTHING. this means pots, stones AND skills.

[gulamanfoogy]

i hate cooldowns... >_<

[zarlok]

No hit points. No defense. No way to avoid monsters. No point in increasing or empowering most skills. No point in playing.

[Tragedy_Boy]

Mages don't need strength. That's the point! If you don't understand these things, DON'T use a mage!

[SpeedBurner]

No hit points. No defense. No way to avoid monsters. No point in increasing or empowering most skills. No point in playing.

Man, you must suck at playing. The point of the mage is be a nuker. You destroy enemies before they even reach you. What, were you thinking, "'ey, I'll run up to the opponent and bat them with my staff, even though it's obviously smarter to use my magic, which is hundred times more powerful." It's for this reason defence and HP have to lowered, or else they would be unstoppable.

And what class HAS a way to avoid monsters? Fighters certainly don't. Clerics certainly don't. Archers, maybe a bit with their DEX and Evasion, but generally speaking, don't.

And you must suck at empowering too.



In any case. Cool Downs = Number one enemy.

[Ceruleagos]

The lack of aggro dump.

[zarlok]

"And what class HAS a way to avoid monsters? Fighters certainly don't. Clerics certainly don't. Archers, maybe a bit with their DEX and Evasion, but generally speaking, don't."

None of the other classes have a NEED to avoid monsters. Mages need because we have no evasion, no hit points, no defense. Nuking at range does nothing for me when a monster spawns on top of me or a train of monsters latches on to me. You get all that, nubcakes? So this is just a strawman argument . Fighters take the hits, clerics can take AND heal the hits, archers can evade(although they aren't too much better off than mages), and mages curl up and die.

[SpeedBurner]

You've got a point about the stopping, and I'll agree with you there. The slow effect from frost bolt, though handy, is too unreliable and not enough on its own. We probably need some sort of wall spell (good ol' Ragnarok Online) or more reliable / powerful status-inflicters.

I don't agree Mages should be able to take more than 3 hits. It's just how they are. It's always the frail body mages that need to figure out where's safest to stand and how to prepare when they see a monster spawning near or on top of them. Hard, yes, but how it is.

Besides of which, their job is to be primary damage-dealers. Without a good supply of magic on the team, KQs will take much longer, and possibly fail. They're required for low level parties tackling on higher-level enemies.

They're not much on their own, but if someone's taking the hits, everything is easy.

[zarlok]

I keep hearing about some fear spell that actually stops a mob for a significant period of time. Anyone got the info on this spell?? when you get it? The cooldown time? The cast time. Sounds just like what mages need.

[maximum]

i have no problem with mage. i all way kill them before they hit me. wel. it maybe because i put all me pt in to magic attack:D

btw. i vote it other for i have no problem
yeah u have right.. Im a mage but i hav NO problem with mages.. except its low PH... but there is a solution!! only train the hp and u will be an mage with great hp!! serius.

[ddogx]

i don't now how to get started reagistrated now wat my e-mail greyddog@yahoo.com can someone help

[Xanthros]

I'm not voting in the poll, as some of the choices are completely misconstrued. That said, life tap is there to -help- you, in conjunction with a cleric.. not get you killed as it implies. If used effectively, a mage can get massive go-go juice and be fixed hp-wise with 1 shot of heal.. using much less sp from a cleric. The bad thing about mages? Most don't know how to pull, and think they're an AoE god/tank when they have a cleric close-by.

My .02,

X-

[KazeTut]

you guys r right the worst is low hp you really need high hp to stay alive

[lazirusienca]

no endurance FTW

[L3m00]

None of the Choices are bad Things.

week - i think you mean "weak" ? ô.o

like paper(low hp) - Of course, they have high attackpower, thats why they have low defence. Thats called "balance" :P

need LOTS of sp - ok thats a lil bit bad .. but higher dmg needs more sp, balance.

life tap kills you - I wouldnt use that when soloing O.o"

The only worse thing about Mages is that we cannot avoid Monsters because the ice bolt effect is too weak and the lightening bolt doesnt stun(archmage books lightbolt stuns)
We are paper-like because we wouldnt need Defence normaly, but these avoiding skills dont work properly at the moment.

[jaded_angel]

i generally dont have a problem with my mage its just that i always seem to have to be two levels higher for the quests given at my current level...slow monsters are easy to kill especially the ones that dont attact unless u attack first...im now having problems with pirates..they run too fast

I bought each of the spells available and seem only to use level 1 missile magic and the firebolt...

I do make use of tiers especially the ones that give extra hp...o well i guess thats why there is the option to join teams

[Tamlinari]

Personally I think the poll is flawed.
I think Mages are awesome!
I just got my Mage to lev 22 and I have to say that of all four character types the Mage requires the most skill management and intelligence on the part of the player to play effectively.
Definitely not a character for the simple minded and I can certainly understand why some players could get really frustrated with the character and give up on it.
As a Mage the player must have the ability to anticipate what will happen next and to always be aware of what is going on in every direction around them.
As a Mage the player must be sneaky and stealthy and always keep out of striking range of the enemy or they will not last long.
Running away to stay alive is a necessary technique to playing as a Mage to become accustom to.
There is nothing wrong with running away from a enemy or being sneaky when you are playing as a Mage, it fact you better get used to it.
A Mage character is the game equivalent of a sniper with the 50 cal. sniper rifle.
Not a rapid shooter like an Archer but every attack from a Mage does an incredible amount of damage to the target, far more than any other character.
If the player boosts the defense of their Mage with scrolls and jewelery so that they can take some hits when necessary a Mage is a great character in my opinion.
I have more fun with my Mage than any other character.

Dark_Princess - Mage - Lev 2x - Teva
:D

[gym101]

Well i agree with you all but the worst part is low attack i meen COME ON:mad:
YOU HAVE TO HATE THAT

[camacho]

WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS BETTER. BIG TIME, I HAVE A LVL 70 NIGHT ELF HUNTER, SO WHY THE HELL WILL I BE PLAYING THIS LAME GAME. WELL PEICE OUT.


(WOW)server: undermine
level: 70 night elf hunter

[Regius]

Personally I think the poll is flawed.
I think Mages are awesome!
I just got my Mage to lev 22 and I have to say that of all four character types the Mage requires the most skill management and intelligence on the part of the player to play effectively.
Definitely not a character for the simple minded and I can certainly understand why some players could get really frustrated with the character and give up on it.
As a Mage the player must have the ability to anticipate what will happen next and to always be aware of what is going on in every direction around them.
As a Mage the player must be sneaky and stealthy and always keep out of striking range of the enemy or they will not last long.
Running away to stay alive is a necessary technique to playing as a Mage to become accustom to.
There is nothing wrong with running away from a enemy or being sneaky when you are playing as a Mage, it fact you better get used to it.
A Mage character is the game equivalent of a sniper with the 50 cal. sniper rifle.
Not a rapid shooter like an Archer but every attack from a Mage does an incredible amount of damage to the target, far more than any other character.
If the player boosts the defense of their Mage with scrolls and jewelery so that they can take some hits when necessary a Mage is a great character in my opinion.
I have more fun with my Mage than any other character.

Dark_Princess - Mage - Lev 2x - Teva
:D




I have to aggre with you 110% =)

[Soul.of.Trance]

WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS BETTER. BIG TIME, I HAVE A LVL 70 NIGHT ELF HUNTER, SO WHY THE HELL WILL I BE PLAYING THIS LAME GAME. WELL PEICE OUT.


(WOW)server: undermine
level: 70 night elf hunter

Because level 70 is the cap, and it's a waste of money to continue paying for it. That's why. And stop trying to raid other forums like we care. because we DON'T

[Soul.of.Trance]

Personally I think the poll is flawed.
I think Mages are awesome!
I just got my Mage to lev 22 and I have to say that of all four character types the Mage requires the most skill management and intelligence on the part of the player to play effectively.
Definitely not a character for the simple minded and I can certainly understand why some players could get really frustrated with the character and give up on it.
As a Mage the player must have the ability to anticipate what will happen next and to always be aware of what is going on in every direction around them.
As a Mage the player must be sneaky and stealthy and always keep out of striking range of the enemy or they will not last long.
Running away to stay alive is a necessary technique to playing as a Mage to become accustom to.
There is nothing wrong with running away from a enemy or being sneaky when you are playing as a Mage, it fact you better get used to it.
A Mage character is the game equivalent of a sniper with the 50 cal. sniper rifle.
Not a rapid shooter like an Archer but every attack from a Mage does an incredible amount of damage to the target, far more than any other character.
If the player boosts the defense of their Mage with scrolls and jewelery so that they can take some hits when necessary a Mage is a great character in my opinion.
I have more fun with my Mage than any other character.

Dark_Princess - Mage - Lev 2x - Teva
:D
I think you just described my play style =/

[SirHenry14]

Why are you keep arguing about it.(low hp)

Mage's are suppose to have low hp, and high magic.
If your looking 4 a high hp then you go for a fighter.

You dont have to put on our face how weak the magician is.
Basically, mages are the late gamers.

Soon, you'll realize how strong magician is.

(-_-)"

[SirHenry14]

Personally I think the poll is flawed.
I think Mages are awesome!
I just got my Mage to lev 22 and I have to say that of all four character types the Mage requires the most skill management and intelligence on the part of the player to play effectively.
Definitely not a character for the simple minded and I can certainly understand why some players could get really frustrated with the character and give up on it.
As a Mage the player must have the ability to anticipate what will happen next and to always be aware of what is going on in every direction around them.
As a Mage the player must be sneaky and stealthy and always keep out of striking range of the enemy or they will not last long.
Running away to stay alive is a necessary technique to playing as a Mage to become accustom to.
There is nothing wrong with running away from a enemy or being sneaky when you are playing as a Mage, it fact you better get used to it.
A Mage character is the game equivalent of a sniper with the 50 cal. sniper rifle.
Not a rapid shooter like an Archer but every attack from a Mage does an incredible amount of damage to the target, far more than any other character.
If the player boosts the defense of their Mage with scrolls and jewelery so that they can take some hits when necessary a Mage is a great character in my opinion.
I have more fun with my Mage than any other character.

Dark_Princess - Mage - Lev 2x - Teva
:D


Thats the spirit. . Mage kick's all classes. :p

[SirHenry14]

WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS BETTER. BIG TIME, I HAVE A LVL 70 NIGHT ELF HUNTER, SO WHY THE HELL WILL I BE PLAYING THIS LAME GAME. WELL PEICE OUT.


(WOW)server: undermine
level: 70 night elf hunter


We'll you dont belong here.
Go away suck on your mommas finger.

[Summit]

worst thing about mages? well thats obvious its the players who play them and dont know how to exploit the classes potentional than end up making stupid posts like these whining about the class being "weak" or "under rated"

[zarlok]

worst thing about mages? well thats obvious its the players who play them and dont know how to exploit the classes potentional than end up making stupid posts like these whining about the class being "weak" or "under rated"

Awesome. The permanoob that can't read plain English or spell has dropped by to give mages a little lecture, given his vast 2 minutes of playtime of the class.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Why are you keep arguing about it.(low hp)

Mage's are suppose to have low hp, and high magic.
If your looking 4 a high hp then you go for a fighter.

You dont have to put on our face how weak the magician is.
Basically, mages are the late gamers.

Soon, you'll realize how strong magician is.

(-_-)"

Nothing about Mages and the people who use them are late... D: Mages are just fine. they have different game play. The only class that has a problem, is the Cleric. they are wayyy too overpowered. They can probably solo Collapsed Prison as soon as they hit level 40

[Tamlinari]

Nothing about Mages and the people who use them are late... D: Mages are just fine. they have different game play. The only class that has a problem, is the Cleric. they are wayyy too overpowered. They can probably solo Collapsed Prison as soon as they hit level 40

Actually lev 38 I am told.
I haven't got there yet I am just a lev 33 but I can almost take a weakened ogre by myself.
They eventually over power me but but I can get them down about 85% before I run out of hp.
LOL
And I built my Cleric for support a full END Cleric my lev with a few scrolls could probably take one down.
:D

[Tim007]

The one thing I don't like about mages is, when you party with one and he/she runs up to mobs and start attacking. He/she thinks, because I'm a cleric I can always heal them while 5-10 monsters are attacking him/her at once. I mean, invincible is a good skill, but it takes time to cast.

I believe in the one-at-a-time method of killing, unless you have a fighter, or a full party.

[Tamlinari]

The one thing I don't like about mages is, when you party with one and he/she runs up to mobs and start attacking. He/she thinks, because I'm a cleric I can always heal them while 5-10 monsters are attacking him/her at once. I mean, invincible is a good skill, but it takes time to cast.

I believe in the one-at-a-time method of killing, unless you have a fighter, or a full party.

You can keep a Mage alive while 5 - 10 mobs are attacking the Mage???
Are you sure?
I play both a Mage and a Cleric and as a Cleric I can tell you that it is not an easy task to keep a Mage alive if they are being attacked even by one Mob.
You must be the best Cleric ever if you can do that.
Invincible only lasts for 15 seconds and takes 2 minutes to cool.
I will pay you 20 silver if you can show me how that is done.
:D

[Soul.of.Trance]

You can keep a Mage alive while 5 - 10 mobs are attacking the Mage???
Are you sure?
I play both a Mage and a Cleric and as a Cleric I can tell you that it is not an easy task to keep a Mage alive if they are being attacked even by one Mob.
You must be the best Cleric ever if you can do that.
Invincible only lasts for 15 seconds and takes 2 minutes to cool.
I will pay you 20 silver if you can show me how that is done.
:D
I can survive 3 green mobs on me, and barely survive 2 yellow mobs. THANK GOODNESS FOR MAGIC BURST /bow/honor/repent

[zarlok]

LOL. My mage dies in 3-5 hits by yellows in the low thirties. And that's with the 200 hitpoint scroll and +29 defense.

[jamk911]

Man, you must suck at playing. The point of the mage is be a nuker. You destroy enemies before they even reach you. What, were you thinking, "'ey, I'll run up to the opponent and bat them with my staff, even though it's obviously smarter to use my magic, which is hundred times more powerful." It's for this reason defence and HP have to lowered, or else they would be unstoppable.

And what class HAS a way to avoid monsters? Fighters certainly don't. Clerics certainly don't. Archers, maybe a bit with their DEX and Evasion, but generally speaking, don't.

And you must suck at empowering too.



In any case. Cool Downs = Number one enemy.




mages should have avoidance tho nonetheless there has to be some advantage that gives a mage 40+ a small chance to solo ... every class has an option to solo 40+ except a mage ... even archers -_-

[Soul.of.Trance]

mages should have avoidance tho nonetheless there has to be some advantage that gives a mage 40+ a small chance to solo ... every class has an option to solo 40+ except a mage ... even archers -_-

Mages can solo. They can solo Yellow and Green mobs. Stop belittling the Mages and actually play as one.. Skillfully.

[Soul.of.Trance]

LOL. My mage dies in 3-5 hits by yellows in the low thirties. And that's with the 200 hitpoint scroll and +29 defense.

Learn how to pot and stone correctly. It's simple.

[Forfirith]

You can keep a Mage alive while 5 - 10 mobs are attacking the Mage???
Are you sure?
I play both a Mage and a Cleric and as a Cleric I can tell you that it is not an easy task to keep a Mage alive if they are being attacked even by one Mob.
You must be the best Cleric ever if you can do that.
Invincible only lasts for 15 seconds and takes 2 minutes to cool.
I will pay you 20 silver if you can show me how that is done.
:D

*wants the moneys*
Last night got attacked (I'm lvl25) by 3 skellys (2 fighters and a that other mean 1 *hates names*) and my party's lvl23 cleric kept me alive + healed the other 3 party mates that got hit by a passing train... at the same time... so she rocks... and as has been said... Magic burst rocks! :D

[Tim007]

You can keep a Mage alive while 5 - 10 mobs are attacking the Mage???
Are you sure?
I play both a Mage and a Cleric and as a Cleric I can tell you that it is not an easy task to keep a Mage alive if they are being attacked even by one Mob.
You must be the best Cleric ever if you can do that.
Invincible only lasts for 15 seconds and takes 2 minutes to cool.
I will pay you 20 silver if you can show me how that is done.
:D

I don't think you read my post correctly. I said he/she "(THINKS)" i can keep a mage alive while 5-10 monster are attacking at once.

[zarlok]

Learn how to pot and stone correctly. It's simple.

Wow. After 33 of my mage and almost 25 as a cleric, thank you for that incredible wisdom. I had no idea what potions and theese weird "stone" things were. Thanks much, soul.of.tard. You are a real level-saver.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Wow. After 33 of my mage and almost 25 as a cleric, thank you for that incredible wisdom. I had no idea what potions and theese weird "stone" things were. Thanks much, soul.of.tard. You are a real level-saver.

Wow. You just lost brownie points. You post something like:

LOL. My mage dies in 3-5 hits by yellows in the low thirties. And that's with the 200 hitpoint scroll and +29 defense. And then call me a tard for telling you to do something so simple? Welcome to my ignored list.

[zarlok]

Wow. You just lost brownie points. You post something like:
And then call me a tard for telling you to do something so simple? Welcome to my ignored list.

I'll live, assumptive perma-noob.

[Soul.of.Trance]

I'll live, assumptive perma-noob.
kthxbai :3.

[shikemaru]

Ya the worst thing about mages is the lack of physical strength and the lack of HP.

[totalcarnage]

i have a lvl 45 mage dont have problem soloing , just gotta know how to play a mage thats all.

[Shootermanz]

I keep hearing about some fear spell that actually stops a mob for a significant period of time. Anyone got the info on this spell?? when you get it? The cooldown time? The cast time. Sounds just like what mages need.

You get that spell at lvl 60. Cooldown time is 1minute and 30seconds, holds target still for 20seconds, but it can miss im sure of it. dont know the cast time.

[CursedMagus]

i have a lvl 45 mage dont have problem soloing , just gotta know how to play a mage thats all.

I want proof of that. I've seen level 50+ Mages have a hard time soloing in CP. So unless you're soloing in Moonlight Tomb, Vine Tomb, etc. then I highly doubt its all that easy for you. If what you say is true at all.

[sion_uk]

i agree the hp of a mage does kinda suck.......but that having been said a mage is only as strong as the party he/she's with.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Why is it that people think Mages are spineless and absolutely NEED a party? IT IS NOT HARD TO SOLO FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!

Edit: aww I missed my 500th post.

[CursedMagus]

Why is it that people think Mages are spineless and absolutely NEED a party? IT IS NOT HARD TO SOLO FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!

Edit: aww I missed my 500th post.

While it may not be "hard" it does suck up a lot of resources. And a lot of us don't want to be spending all that money getting meager experience at a slightly slower rate than if we were in a party.

[DRAGONFVSXSX]

hahahaha this is a funny forum really funny the worst about a mage is hmmmmm i dont know i guess the cost of skills nothing else really is the worst i mean you can kill faster than anything your lvl and if u make it tank mage you can take on monsters like warrours and well you can take on mages easy i gota mage who can kill a orc with a few pots used and a few stones used at lvl 40 and cp is a breeze can kill a harkan before he attacks if im lucky and if he does attack he doesnt do that much i dont know mabe cause im a end and spr mage that i can do this and i know how too use a mage hahaha

[zarlok]

Gotta love all the "mage experts" that have 1-3 posts to their name all talking about how effectively they solo. While anyone that actually plays a mage 30+ has completely different version of things. Ya, it must be your awesome end/spirit built. LOL.

[maximum]

haha!! he got a point.hehe..funny..HAHAHAHAHAHA.. im serius.. think about it.. he got a point there

[Corakus]

The worst thing about mages is their survivability,if something gets close to them their dead,and ranged attacks can take them out,i speak out of inexperience(lvl 16),but from what i've heard,mages are the worst at soloing,i think what would be best is something to hold the enemy back,maybe a stun or knockback or something,maybe a better snare on the ice attacks,or some aoe ranged spells that snare,whatever the choice,something is needed to hold enemies back better,and there needs to be more survivability,mages arent supposed to tank,but 2 or 3 shots and your dead seems a little ridiculous.

[zarlok]

The worst thing about mages is their survivability,if something gets close to them their dead,and ranged attacks can take them out,i speak out of inexperience(lvl 16),but from what i've heard,mages are the worst at soloing,i think what would be best is something to hold the enemy back,maybe a stun or knockback or something,maybe a better snare on the ice attacks,or some aoe ranged spells that snare,whatever the choice,something is needed to hold enemies back better,and there needs to be more survivability,mages arent supposed to tank,but 2 or 3 shots and your dead seems a little ridiculous.

That's really the porblem. Mages can't tank-- not at all, yet the other classes can all do god damaage (not as good as mages do, but still good damage). Put in a number form:

Mages being hit : 1
Mages hitting: 10

Mage total: 11

Clerics being hit : 10
Clerics hitting: 6

Clerics total: 16

Fighter being hit: 8
Fighters hitting: 7

Fighters total : 15

Archers being hit : 3
Archers hitting:8

Archers total: 11

Either all the other classes do too much damage (except for archers) or mages are way too fragile for this to balance out. It's just that simple.

[oblvnwarrior]

Yeah, we ARE fragile. I mean, I die at least twice a day. Sheesh.

I'm thinking maybe we could get some sort of low-level spell that decreases an enemy's HP by a certain percent with a half of a second of recharge time. That way we could still kind of kill all the bad guys while we're cooling down. And the game developers would be like, "Okay, that's cool," since removing a percent of the HP (For an example, scroll down) wouldn't really be h4xing too much.

Okay, let's say you were using the spell on an enemy with 40 HP.
Let's also say the spell takes away 10 percent of a monster's remaining HP with each hit. So hit number one would put the monster at 36.
Hit number two would drop it to 32.
Hit three would make it 29.
Blah blah blah.
Eventually the monster would get down to one HP, and it would stay there until killed by another spell.

Is that a good idea? I know it's kind of off-topic, but...Yeah...

[CursedMagus]

Gotta love all the "mage experts" that have 1-3 posts to their name all talking about how effectively they solo. While anyone that actually plays a mage 30+ has completely different version of things. Ya, it must be your awesome end/spirit built. LOL.

Gotta love all the "elitists" who think having a certain amount of posts on a forum actually means something. Now, I do agree with you on this whole "I can solo past level 20 easily!" subject. Because in all honesty, NO you can't. Unless you're some how magically enhancing all your stats to an ungodly number there's no way you can solo effectively. Most mobs will kill us in two to three hits. Maybe more, maybe less but the point is we can not take hits. And contrary to popular belief we can not take down Yellow, Dark Orange, or Red mobs before they get to us. Yes, our damage is far more significant then yours but unlike you we are frail. We can not withstand that much damage. If we could then every other class would be out of business. So to those who say you can solo effectively beyond level 20, all I have to say is this. I want proof.

[Corakus]

That's really the porblem. Mages can't tank-- not at all, yet the other classes can all do god damaage (not as good as mages do, but still good damage). Put in a number form:

Mages being hit : 1
Mages hitting: 10

Mage total: 11

Clerics being hit : 10
Clerics hitting: 6

Clerics total: 16

Fighter being hit: 8
Fighters hitting: 7

Fighters total : 15

Archers being hit : 3
Archers hitting:8

Archers total: 11

Either all the other classes do too much damage (except for archers) or mages are way too fragile for this to balance out. It's just that simple.

So we either need one of two things:More survivability,or more damage to outweight the other classes.

[Soul.of.Trance]

While it may not be "hard" it does suck up a lot of resources. And a lot of us don't want to be spending all that money getting meager experience at a slightly slower rate than if we were in a party.

Then simply don't play as a Mage. You don't get to have a party when ever you want at your disposal. learn how to suck it up and spend some money. You don't hear clerics complaining about having to buy their stones, so why should we?

[Soul.of.Trance]

Gotta love all the "elitists" who think having a certain amount of posts on a forum actually means something. Now, I do agree with you on this whole "I can solo past level 20 easily!" subject. Because in all honesty, NO you can't. Unless you're some how magically enhancing all your stats to an ungodly number there's no way you can solo effectively. Most mobs will kill us in two to three hits. Maybe more, maybe less but the point is we can not take hits. And contrary to popular belief we can not take down Yellow, Dark Orange, or Red mobs before they get to us. Yes, our damage is far more significant then yours but unlike you we are frail. We can not withstand that much damage. If we could then every other class would be out of business. So to those who say you can solo effectively beyond level 20, all I have to say is this. I want proof.

So you're complaining that you can't pot and stone strategically? or is it that it's not easy for you to pot and stone strategically? If you can't tough luck. you chose what you wanted to be.

I can pot and stone strategically and I don't think it's hard in anyway, which means, killing a few yellow mobs is not hard; if you don't believe me. I shall make a video for you.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Yeah, we ARE fragile. I mean, I die at least twice a day. Sheesh.

I'm thinking maybe we could get some sort of low-level spell that decreases an enemy's HP by a certain percent with a half of a second of recharge time. That way we could still kind of kill all the bad guys while we're cooling down. And the game developers would be like, "Okay, that's cool," since removing a percent of the HP (For an example, scroll down) wouldn't really be h4xing too much.

Okay, let's say you were using the spell on an enemy with 40 HP.
Let's also say the spell takes away 10 percent of a monster's remaining HP with each hit. So hit number one would put the monster at 36.
Hit number two would drop it to 32.
Hit three would make it 29.
Blah blah blah.
Eventually the monster would get down to one HP, and it would stay there until killed by another spell.

Is that a good idea? I know it's kind of off-topic, but...Yeah...

In otherwords: "Lets unbalance the characters"

Edit: Some more. Clerics are extremely over powered. they can essentially take all the hits they want and still attack while they're doing it.

[CursedMagus]

So you're complaining that you can't pot and stone strategically? or is it that it's not easy for you to pot and stone strategically? If you can't tough luck. you chose what you wanted to be.

I can pot and stone strategically and I don't think it's hard in anyway, which means, killing a few yellow mobs is not hard; if you don't believe me. I shall make a video for you.

Trance, i'm going to be as nice to you as possible seeing as how you happen to be the leader of one of my favorite Guilds. You have NOT hit level 30 yet. I always see you in parties doing stuff. Not once have I seen you solo anything. Not to mention i've had to Revive you NUMEROUS times. I can use potions and stones quite well but the amount of damage caused to me is insane. So even spamming potions/stones isn't always effective. I choose the Mage because thats what I am and will always play. Nothing will change my mind on that. Make a video then. Show me YOUR Yellow mobs and i'll show you the mobs that were Yellow to me.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Trance, i'm going to be as nice to you as possible seeing as how you happen to be the leader of one of my favorite Guilds. You have NOT hit level 30 yet. I always see you in parties doing stuff. Not once have I seen you solo anything. Not to mention i've had to Revive you NUMEROUS times. I can use potions and stones quite well but the amount of damage caused to me is insane. So even spamming potions/stones isn't always effective. I choose the Mage because thats what I am and will always play. Nothing will change my mind on that. Make a video then. Show me YOUR Yellow mobs and i'll show you the mobs that were Yellow to me.

Alright hot shot. I'm processing a video of ME level 26 SOLOING at MT. I eneded up dying because of the fact that recording and grinding at the same time is not the easiest thing to do because it lags.

Since I felt like I didn't have much trouble there, I will be grinding there until it's pointless to continue. Expect another video from me at level 30+

[CursedMagus]

Alright hot shot. I'm processing a video of ME level 26 SOLOING at MT. I eneded up dying because of the fact that recording and grinding at the same time is not the easiest thing to do because it lags.

Since I felt like I didn't have much trouble there, I will be grinding there until it's pointless to continue. Expect another video from me at level 30+

I can solo at Moonlight Tomb at level 20 with a Mage. Its hard, but its possible. You just need scrolls, a quick finger, etc.

[Tamlinari]

I can solo at Moonlight Tomb at level 20 with a Mage. Its hard, but its possible. You just need scrolls, a quick finger, etc.

I suppose it is possible if you are full INT at lev 20.
You would have to make sure you have a clear path to run away before you take your shot and hope that nothing spawns near you.
LOL
:D

[Soul.of.Trance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZKh5t_sIg

[Nerria]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZKh5t_sIg

Totally Off-Topic: Could I get the name/artist of that second song (1:45) in there? :p

[Soul.of.Trance]

Totally Off-Topic: Could I get the name/artist of that second song (1:45) in there? :p

The name of the song is called "Look to the sky" (Trance Remix)" By System S.F featuring Anna

[Nerria]

The name of the song is called "Look to the sky" (Trance Remix)" By System S.F featuring Anna

Thank you. :D

[tameas]

Don't spend skill points on strength ... if you have to hit anything RUN

most of mine went into INT for damage ... so I can killem before they get to me :D

[violence]

Man, you must suck at playing. The point of the mage is be a nuker. You destroy enemies before they even reach you. What, were you thinking, "'ey, I'll run up to the opponent and bat them with my staff, even though it's obviously smarter to use my magic, which is hundred times more powerful." It's for this reason defence and HP have to lowered, or else they would be unstoppable.

And what class HAS a way to avoid monsters? Fighters certainly don't. Clerics certainly don't. Archers, maybe a bit with their DEX and Evasion, but generally speaking, don't.

And you must suck at empowering too.



In any case. Cool Downs = Number one enemy.

yes cool times are the number one enemy of mages cool times should not change as a spell hits harder at a higher lvl cause well monsters gain more hp at higher lvls while mages gain little hp so you cant always kill higher lvl monsters before they get to you for those who say its dead before it gets to them wait till your like lvl 40 you weont kill anything but monsters you get 1 xp for before they get to you

[fbddy]

Cool times are all that cause a problem with me, or me being stupid and clicking the chat box when i try to run >_<

[CursedMagus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZKh5t_sIg

Thanks for dedicating this video to me Trance. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. By the way, maybe its just me but... does anyone else think that Trance goes great with Mages? And Trance as in the genre of music not Trance as in this guy.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Thanks for dedicating this video to me Trance. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. By the way, maybe its just me but... does anyone else think that Trance goes great with Mages? And Trance as in the genre of music not Trance as in this guy.

Lulz. I totally thought you were talking about me, until I read the end. xDD

[Leesa]

Its called running away. Mages are strong and have good M.Def, when your spells are cooling down while fighting a hard enemy run away and hit it, easy as eating pie.

[Soul.of.Trance]

Its called running away. Mages are strong and have good M.Def, when your spells are cooling down while fighting a hard enemy run away and hit it, easy as eating pie.

Pie isn't that easy to eat.. ): you gotta like... get all the crumbs... and debate on which side to start from...

[night97]

you will have no problem play a mage when you have AOE to eliminate the aggressive monsters but before that you need to stick with party or solo with some stat points on END ( like 10 at least counts rings too ) then the rest may as well go to INT and sometimes SPR for SP and damage then there's no way a monster can get to you without DYING FIRST!!!!:cool::cool::D;)

[Oruan]

If you ask me, they only problem I have with my Mage character are the cooldown times. If those were decreased, even by just one or two seconds, then Everything would be a lot better. I'll die all day long and not care as long as I can cast more than one spell per half hour.

[Janger]

That is why the game has Empowerment points, to decrease cooldowns/increase M.damage/etc.
gg!

[Rakon]

ok really this is just really sad, if u can;t use a mage well then don;t use him, don't post a piece of sh*t saying mages suck, and btw more sp=more time using spells.
u people are noobs:mad::mad::mad:

[Rakon]

No hit points. No defense. No way to avoid monsters. No point in increasing or empowering most skills. No point in playing.

zarlok, stfu

P.S: if u want to know how i think is the best way to use a mage here it is:
step1: first raise his DEX until its +10
step2:raise his SPR to +10
step3: raise his INT to +10

then repeat, u can do this in any order u like

[Dawnslight]

I like mages alot but, I hate the fact that they need constant sp, its bad enough there hp is low but without a cleric to heal me I have to worry about my health and sp all the time,...I also agree with gulamanfoogy cooldowns, are hectic ><;

I wish they were instant cast lol

but i love my mage because it does massive damage and as long as I have my cleric <3
I know I can attack anything with ease

Mages FTW!!!!

[fundude93]

in mythology, the mage is nearly invincible


in video games, he's like a straw dummy with reflexes, lol


the main difference is the fact that mages have only like 6 spells(bolt/blasts, life tap, those things), and the fact that they don't do total annihilation


if a mage were to be an entire army(i mean an army of mages), several catapults would easily squish them all flat into magical pancakes....of DEATH, muahahahahahahahaha

[Luna_Moore]

The worst thing about a mage is being paper thin.... dying ftw!


ROFLOL! Yeah, that's it in a nutshell.

Yes, I understand as a mage I'm supposed to kill the enemy before it reaches me but tell that to my lag. :p

[longruoli]

how to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oruan]

That is why the game has Empowerment points, to decrease cooldowns/increase M.damage/etc.
gg!

Very true but you only get one per every other level, I think.


ok really this is just really sad, if u can;t use a mage well then don;t use him, don't post a piece of sh*t saying mages suck, and btw more sp=more time using spells.
u people are noobs:mad::mad::mad:

Running out of Sp is not a problem, for me at least, it's having to cast all of your spells. And then you get to stand there while your spells cooldown, cause chances are, you didn't kill it!

btw, i'm using a full INT mage.

[mhsponge]

KSing. 'nuff said.

[Dawnslight]

in mythology, the mage is nearly invincible


in video games, he's like a straw dummy with reflexes, lol


the main difference is the fact that mages have only like 6 spells(bolt/blasts, life tap, those things), and the fact that they don't do total annihilation


if a mage were to be an entire army(i mean an army of mages), several catapults would easily squish them all flat into magical pancakes....of DEATH, muahahahahahahahaha

thats your opinion, I think if you build your mage up correctly then you can have alot of sp and hp with fast cooldowns

[Firemind]

Yes we are paper thin but that's what we are suposed to be, not a real problem for me since I expected it when I decided to go the mague path. What really annoys me is that I am not the damage dealer I thought I would be. I am lvl 26 and the amount of damage I do is just slightly biger than that of a warrior while the damage I take is far biger than any other class it's like +20% dmg done -400% endurance feeling. It's just impossible to do anything without someone's help. High level spells suck and the only way to go for mid-high lvl wizards is full int with weak & fast speels to get our INT dmg (armor ignoring) through as fast as possible. I am frustrated.

[Janger]

Yes mages lack physical power.
Yes mages are paper thin.
Yes Mages need alot of SP.
Yes mages have skills that convert hp to sp
Yes mages have many other "problems"

Look..
All mages have these problems, but they are all very simply solved.
1) Lack of physical power.
Ok guys, the simple solution to the lack of physical power.
you should not be attacking with your staff. Attacking with your staff is only for those times you want to show off to you lvl 1 friends by beating up a purple slime. Our spells tear things apart 600x faster then the normal staff/wand does.

dont beat things up with normal staff.. problem 1 solved

2) Mages being paper thing
Alright, if monsters are getting up close and personal with you then your either fighting the wrong monster, or your skills are messed up. For fighting monsters you should be fighting greens (for cash $$$) Yellows (for xp) oranges (only if they are a quest monster) and reds (if you want to die).
you should always be able to kill greens before they reach you. you should be able to take a yellow out with alittle more effort, and not getting hit. and if your getting hit i recommend the search button for a mages guide in this forum because i am not going to teach you guys all the skill empowerments and stats you should buff.

problem 2 solved

3) Mages need alot of SP
Ahh finally the age old problem of running out of SP...
yes boys and girls its that time of the month again, you need to buy pots and stones! If you steadily grind your way through hordes and hordes of monsters you should not have a problem with money. the ratio of pot/stone permonster should be 0 for every monster you fight. stones and pots are used for fast grinding without stops to use your house. Always keep a ready stock of pots/stones.

problem 3 solved.

4) Mages have skills that turns hp into sp zomg!!11one
ok look im going to make this clear.
if you kill yourself using the lifetap skill then you should quit playing as the mage class and delete all traces of that character. it is used hwile in a party or grinding with a cleric never rinding solo and never questing solo. problem 4 solved.

So please guys dont make silly poll threads like these and just use the search button for your questions!!

flame me all you like i have a fire exstinghuisher and im not afraid to use it! :-)

[BlackScales]

i solo all the time with my mage and barely ever die. and i'm only lvl.18.

[marcus93]

hmm....mage..really kinda weak...but i like it also...lol...jus not fair between cleric and mage.mage jus like a piece of paper,monster can get u about 2-3 hit and u will go back to the heaven.cleric?solo heal solo heal.about lv38 can solo in CP.they jus need sp pots but mage?hp,sp pots still not enough for lvling.need lots of scroll also.like,power scroll(aim.for those who r lv30+ to bcom dd in CP)def scroll(no use,die without healing)vit scrol(kinda...maybe it helps a lot)if Fiesta is a easy game for earning game money i wont say anything but,like in CP chewy meat 300c (2 vit scroll used )mage jus use money like....drinking water...Gm...i jus asking can u make mages def higher?so that it will be more fair...someone suggest me to up END(state) what for?mage needs magic atk,but hp low like?the higher lv u r the more hp the monster got.how to get him b4 he reach u?NO WAY think about that....
Mag3Kill3r-apoline lv36

[Craumb]

Yes mages lack physical power.
Yes mages are paper thin.
Yes Mages need alot of SP.
Yes mages have skills that convert hp to sp
Yes mages have many other "problems"

Look..
All mages have these problems, but they are all very simply solved.
1) Lack of physical power.
Ok guys, the simple solution to the lack of physical power.
you should not be attacking with your staff. Attacking with your staff is only for those times you want to show off to you lvl 1 friends by beating up a purple slime. Our spells tear things apart 600x faster then the normal staff/wand does.

dont beat things up with normal staff.. problem 1 solved

2) Mages being paper thing
Alright, if monsters are getting up close and personal with you then your either fighting the wrong monster, or your skills are messed up. For fighting monsters you should be fighting greens (for cash $$$) Yellows (for xp) oranges (only if they are a quest monster) and reds (if you want to die).
you should always be able to kill greens before they reach you. you should be able to take a yellow out with alittle more effort, and not getting hit. and if your getting hit i recommend the search button for a mages guide in this forum because i am not going to teach you guys all the skill empowerments and stats you should buff.

problem 2 solved

3) Mages need alot of SP
Ahh finally the age old problem of running out of SP...
yes boys and girls its that time of the month again, you need to buy pots and stones! If you steadily grind your way through hordes and hordes of monsters you should not have a problem with money. the ratio of pot/stone permonster should be 0 for every monster you fight. stones and pots are used for fast grinding without stops to use your house. Always keep a ready stock of pots/stones.

problem 3 solved.

4) Mages have skills that turns hp into sp zomg!!11one
ok look im going to make this clear.
if you kill yourself using the lifetap skill then you should quit playing as the mage class and delete all traces of that character. it is used hwile in a party or grinding with a cleric never rinding solo and never questing solo. problem 4 solved.

So please guys dont make silly poll threads like these and just use the search button for your questions!!

flame me all you like i have a fire exstinghuisher and im not afraid to use it! :-)


I had to quote this cause Janger is totally freaking right. Too many noobs play this game. Go learn to play a mage! On the other hand, even though these are totally unnecessary skills to add to the mages repertoire, I'd actually like to see a mage have a de-agro skill, or something like a mana shield that consumes sp when taking dmg. It'd also be awesome if we could have a confuse or fear skill gg.

[Krusnik02]

i solo all the time with my mage and barely ever die. and i'm only lvl.18.

Exactly! People shouldn't run up to an enemy and then use spells (yeah, I've seen people do that). The whole point is bashing enemies before they get near you.

Level 22 Mage FYI :cool:

[Summit]

I think the worst of mages is those who pull too quickly in groups and expect me to save their sorry behinds x(

[Soul.of.Trance]

4) Mages have skills that turns hp into sp zomg!!11one
ok look im going to make this clear.
if you kill yourself using the lifetap skill then you should quit playing as the mage class and delete all traces of that character. it is used hwile in a party or grinding with a cleric never rinding solo and never questing solo. problem 4 solved.

So please guys dont make silly poll threads like these and just use the search button for your questions!!

flame me all you like i have a fire exstinghuisher and im not afraid to use it! :-)



LMFAO You just won. I laughed my *** off when I read that.
http://tinyurl.com/gtr49

[Firemind]

i solo all the time with my mage and barely ever die. and i'm only lvl.18.

Everybody soloes until lvl 20-25 with no problem, but it becomes harder and harder as you lvl up. Soloing Bats or Marlone Megaton guarantess HP pot/stone use or rest after kill even if they are green to you. Monster's HP just grow faster than our damage output. Last thing I could solo without using pots being yellow for me was Grave Diggers.

[Rman555]

I may be a lv 10 mage but i know alot about mages.1) they lack hp, clerics are practically their brothers for that reason.2) SP problems, buy pots, or stones is it really that hard?!?!3) over all, you ever hear of resting?!:eek: 4) mages do fine solo, but go for a balanced party of clerics archers and fighters. 5) and most importantly, always brush your teeth for a clean and healthy mouth, even though i dont!:D:D:D

[Crystall]

I really do not like the lack of Hp

that's why I try to pump skill points equally into Int, Spr and End

the cool down time is really bad and i don't like the sp drain but overall I really love the class

[Soul.of.Trance]

I soloed my first Harkan at level 38.
http://tinyurl.com/gtr49

[wiggins]

I think the SP pool could use some tweaking, I would like to see less necessity to buy so many potions, especially duruing solo play where there's not 'always' a nice spot to rest btwn kills, and having to rest btwn 3-4 kills gets a bit old.

In a party, if you play smart, and don't start dealing all your dmg until somone's got the mobs/bosses beating on them (preferably a tanking type) then you'll be fine.

The only thing I wish the game employed was the use of a targeting hotkey. That would be a godsend. I hate going to target a monster, just to have it suddenly bolt somewere else, and I'm left running to a spot I don't want to be in. My only complaint isn't about the class itself, but the game's mechanics and control scheme. I wish these japanese graphical rpgs would take a cue or two from american ones....in regards to controls.

[Cherushi]

I soloed a harkan at lvl 37 ^^ lol, but with one wrong estimate of my hp.. (meaning wrong timing of hp pots/ stone usage) i died. hahaha. but guys, its still possible...

mages are fun because they require tactics on the part of the player ^^. mages are fun to play because it gives the player a challenge :D

but in all fairness, that was done with an hp boost from a cleric. but still, thats like 13 levels above me. so which suggests, its possible. but on the topic,

i hate the long cooldowns. thats all :D but it can be fixed ^^

[Soul.of.Trance]

I think the SP pool could use some tweaking, I would like to see less necessity to buy so many potions, especially duruing solo play where there's not 'always' a nice spot to rest btwn kills, and having to rest btwn 3-4 kills gets a bit old.

In a party, if you play smart, and don't start dealing all your dmg until somone's got the mobs/bosses beating on them (preferably a tanking type) then you'll be fine.

The only thing I wish the game employed was the use of a targeting hotkey. That would be a godsend. I hate going to target a monster, just to have it suddenly bolt somewere else, and I'm left running to a spot I don't want to be in. My only complaint isn't about the class itself, but the game's mechanics and control scheme. I wish these japanese graphical rpgs would take a cue or two from american ones....in regards to controls.

You're asking them to use a different engine? those things cost money.

[Tibrado]

i think the game is good as it is it gives a challenge ...a very big one at that....... and if u'll have a problem with being "paper" put all ur state points on END :D:D:D:D

[Entron]

You're asking them to use a different engine? those things cost money.

Lol no they arnt, theyre asking outspark to add a key that targets the nearest monster/next monster/target allies taget monster that would be pretty simple. L2 has tageting comands like that and GW has a call/target called target key

[Soul.of.Trance]

Lol no they arnt, theyre asking outspark to add a key that targets the nearest monster/next monster/target allies taget monster that would be pretty simple. L2 has tageting comands like that and GW has a call/target called target key

They do... It's called TAB

[The-Sakura]

I orginally thought cooldowns were my enemy- Till I used some points in reducing my cooldown time, now I can link 7 spells in a row, right after another, with no delay. If its not dead in 7 hits, Its probally wayyy too strong for me to fight anyways.
I'd say the lack of hp- Creates a problem when something sneaks up on you and 1 hits you.. its a pain..
Thus, I am putting half my points into endurance, 1/3rd into mage attack, and 1/6th into sp- If I get some defence and HP as a mage, then I'm all set.

[TASIDON]

i got abit of a chuckle outta this thread. Mages are fine the way they are. they are supposed to be soft, and delicate, ya know how much study it takes to be able to hurl spells? they dont have time to build their physical prowess, and as such, its no surprise they are weak in melee. Mages are quite powerful, IF you know how to play one properly. and by that I mean Whic h skills to empower, which to focus on, how to kite properly, AND AND AND RESTING, seriosuly, ur a mage, if you wanna sit down and rest for a tick or two feel free, or jus Spam ur little spells. Magic missle does good to moderate dmg, and its quick and costs me 2sp..and seeing as how I have close to 800..thats alotta Missles. As a mage, you have to think, not just run into melee and expect youll be fine. use the landscape, dont be an idiot and dish out the HUGE dmg spells before the tank has grabbed aggro..as long as u think before u act..mages are just fine

[Rockman_Xelnia]

Personally, I can't help but feel that Mages, out of all four classes, are getting bullied into the dirt. Seriously, working a Mage is no big deal unless you're an idiot -for the sake of not sugarcoating words- and don't understand the beauty of the Mage. I just recently wiped my Mage and she's level 24 and I've done it all by myself for the most part -KQs don't count- Hell, with the way I work my Mage, I end up tanking monsters a lot more often than even Fighters --except for boss-type monsters of course--

I've put points into both cooldown and SP reduction just to keep my attacks maxed and consistent ---I keep Magic Missle at level 1 all the time since I can chain it in between other attacks like MM>FB>MM>IB>MM>LB>MM>MB>MM, you get the point and even though it's on level 1, it still does acceptable damage

As for the whole HP/SP thing, that's why we have stones, pots, and scrolls to help that and also for those who can invest, those HP/SP Potions that hold like 10,000-1,000,000 and only the amount used will be subtracted from the remaining --And I am so getting a whole bunch of those.

Point remade, Mages aren't bad unless you play them like they are and that goes for any class. Leave the Mages alone, we haven't done anything to get bullied on. 'lack of DEF = OHKO' HA GIMME A BREAK!! A Fighter is just the same, except 'lack of M.DEF = 9/10 a OHKO from a Magic-type attack'

[Soul.of.Trance]

Hate being weak, that's all. (not week btw)

Mages are not weak.

This stereotype is pissing me off.

[japanfreakxd3]

yea guys stop hating on mages

[RippleMoon]

Yes! I definitely have to agree, mages can be very powerful in their own ways! Plus, if you can find armor or jewelry that will enhance END, it's always a plus! Also, vitality scrolls and such also helps.

I do have to agree with a lot of people that it would be nice if mages could use less SP. I'm a level 28 mage, and I know I'm not the best at soloing and such, but mage attacks take a lot of sp! Since I'm still saving my skill empowerments for future skills and for damage empowering, I end up having to use a lot of sp pots or stones. And with a mage's health, I have to use a lot of hp pots and stones. If I hadn't just donated a lot of silvers to start up a guild (called Synchronization btw ^3^) I probably wouldn't have as much trouble. Plus, I'm not at the level where I can fight green monsters yet, and skills & weapons cost so much! So I guess I have to say that at lower levels, it can be pretty tough for some people when using a mage. We shouldn't say that there's an absolute, because it's different for everyone. I die a lot partly because I have horrible lag, which others might not have.

And since I haven't figured out my perfect combo yet, cool times can be a bother. But that's my own fault, haha!

Of course, if mages didn't have any weaknesses, it would be the only class that people play. But even so, mages rock! People should definitely not look down mages! (I'd like to see any party who would refuse a good mage! especially for bosses. Can you imagine how long it would take???)

[Arzeus]

I have no problem with mages... ^^

[Kouji423]

I'm earning money like from 1s-20s when i came back because somehow i just use 10 hp and sp stones:DI don't understand a problem with the shadow test i don't know why but some people complain and they take like 8 tries to finish but i just used 1try...

[Kouji423]

Who said mages are weak i can solo a jewel grave robber in my level 20 grave robber with full hp!OMB aM i CrAzY?

[SatansGuard]

Who said mages are weak i can solo a jewel grave robber in my level 20 grave robber with full hp!OMB aM i CrAzY?


you got that right.

All these people saying mages are weak, mages have no hp, well lemme tell you something.

im a lvl 21 mage currently and i have no problem at all killing mobs AND staying alive AND having hp. you all just need to learn how to fight as a mage, if not the GTFO and leave the class alone, just remember next time your getting owned by 5 mobs with your little sword a mage wont stop to help you out.
i do it all the time and almost every 1 of them says thank you, or u saved my life, or god bless mage power. not "oh hey thanks mage that has no hp thats weak and useless".

You all need to grow the hell up and stop acting like 5 year olds. learn the class or dont play it. plain and simple.
Personally if you had to read a million things to learn how to PRODUCE and SHOOT magic out of your god damn body, your body wouldnt be all that great lookin and you would get punched in the face and prolly die cause ur so weak, unless you pump iron as u turn pages ur weak DUH.

Either STFU, find a better Build, or GTFO and leave mages alone

Peace,
SG.

P.S: my build consists of 1:4 ratio, 4 to INT, 1 to END.
i have good enough hp and defense, and i still **** these ****in monsters

[lewissac]

Mage works very well on KQ as well. They're life savers. Tankers might be the barricade but mages are the artillery. :D

[moonleigh]

wee.. from the philippines XD

[jonathanbartles]

I just replied to the cleric discussion, you wouldn't be a mage if you had high def. You're supposed to do dmg at a far. If I can tank in MT as a mage, that's still too much def. Don't complain about lack of it. Now on to fighters, then I'll followup w/ my archers discussion

[r4ng3r]

mages well,
paper thin
die ALOT

Well thats why you attack yellow and green monsters

and own em in like 3 hits so expirience is about the same

i purfur mages above all other classes

PVP is bad but if u attack lower people ur win easy

[ZackTheMad]

i did a slime kq once where a mage was the tank because all we got were lvl 7 fighters LOL!! so there for people who say mages are like paper!

but mages do a hell lot of damage with their spells.. i think the worst part about mages is having to wait for spell cooldown (it's 4 seconds for magic missle and 15seconds for the rest at lvl 20, disregarding skill empowerment) mages can't attack without skills

and yes mages have to learn to fight like mages.. we are not warriors who can recklessly charge into a battlefield with lots of pots.. we have to, i admit, fight like little small kids who are made of very breakable glass.. don't charge in and then complain that mages have too low def, we got probably the highest damage dealing capabilities