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clestenta
04-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right. And fighters should get a kiting skill just like archers because its good for fighters and solo.

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right.

sorry to say but im not voteing most of your suggestions are already in teh game their just past lvl 120 :) so just wait ok and no heals fighters arent made for STR thier made for END deal with it

Rzpect
04-04-2009, 11:04 PM
This is a joke.

clestenta
04-04-2009, 11:05 PM
sorry to say but im not voteing most of your suggestions are already in teh game their just past lvl 120 :) so just wait ok and no heals fighters arent made for STR thier made for END deal with it

Gladiators, HELLO????????>:>:>?<????

clestenta
04-04-2009, 11:05 PM
This is a joke.

No its not Im being sereous -.-

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:05 PM
Gladiators, HELLO????????>:>:>?<????

yea you get a skill called tomahawk and you throw your 2 handed wep lol

spookyiness
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
it wasn't funny the first time this thread started, so it's not much of a joke the 2nd

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
No its not Im being sereous -.-

ok first off what lvl r u =/

clestenta
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
yea you get a skill called tomahawk and you throw your 2 handed wep lol

I said it with a plural. And I was answering to your "Fighters are made for end not str."

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:07 PM
it wasn't funny the first time this thread started, so it's not much of a joke the 2nd

i knwo what ya mean the weakest class = mage

Rzpect
04-04-2009, 11:07 PM
No its not Im being sereous -.-

Get to lvl 8x and see how overpowered fighters are.

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:08 PM
I said it with a plural. And I was answering to your "Fighters are made for end not str."

SHHHHHHHHHHH just so ya know their gonna make a class >.> for str >.> shhhhhhhh you diidnt hear it form me ( ina LOOOOOONG time they will)

clestenta
04-04-2009, 11:09 PM
SHHHHHHHHHHH just so ya know their gonna make a class >.> for str >.> shhhhhhhh you diidnt hear it form me ( ina LOOOOOONG time they will)

Uhuh.....


10 char

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Get to lvl 8x and see how overpowered fighters are.

i knw what ya mean lol ya see my siggy lol my noob (Sacred_Wolf) is lvl 2x and i can fight 5x mobs wiht no scrolls and have no +9's nothign just white npc's and bunch of use less cra p and thier WAY underpowerd ? lets see a archer or mage do that *watches*

lucario448
04-04-2009, 11:10 PM
this is a joke thread right ._.'

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Uhuh.....


10 char

lols you noob what lvl r u and yea ( its gonna be like a monk off FF1) :o cant wait

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:11 PM
this is a joke thread right ._.'

thats what i thougth but no shes serious

double post ftw XD bishes

clestenta
04-04-2009, 11:12 PM
I saw a thread where many fighters were picky about healing so to solve the problem I thought they should get their own heals!!

noxiouslove
04-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Are you serious? Fighters underpowered? Excuse me while I laugh on the ground. >>

SweetLavender
04-04-2009, 11:13 PM
this is a joke thread right ._.'

yes it is! Belated April Fools!

and I see you've only recently started playing? don't judge a class you know nothing about in this game please. Fighters are in no way under powered in this game lol

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:14 PM
I saw a thread where many fighters were picky about healing so to solve the problem I thought they should get their own heals!!

what thread O_O i wanna fuggen see it NAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

coldstone
04-04-2009, 11:15 PM
let me remind you, if a fighter can heal themselves, they'd be a cleric, not a fighter, point of the fact is clerics are the only healers in the game because that's that, don't try to change the balance and if you must know one stun is enough with the way people over use it. get a cleric or a mage or an archer if you think the fighters are too weak, lmao you'd really have problems to whine about then...

SweetLavender
04-04-2009, 11:16 PM
I saw a thread where many fighters were picky about healing so to solve the problem I thought they should get their own heals!!

o.o lol. where does the cleric role come into the picture then? then clerics will be underpowered and demand a lifetime supply of cookies and their demand for more attack skills will skyrocket!

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:17 PM
let me remind you, if a fighter can heal themselves, they'd be a cleric, not a fighter, point of the fact is clerics are the only healers in the game because that's that, don't try to change the balance and if you must know one stun is enough with the way people over use it. get a cleric or a mage or an archer if you think the fighters are too weak, lmao you'd really have problems to whine about then...

lols i think shes only lvl 5 dude chill .....*check voteing poll* LMMFAOEHAJKIELBBQC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 you phail nub who opened this poll XD why dotn ya get to at least 3x and then COMPLAIN other then that shush -closes-

mehe25
04-04-2009, 11:19 PM
what thread O_O i wanna fuggen see it NAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139770&page=2


Yea they did seem pretty picky about healing.

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:19 PM
o.o lol. where does the cleric role come into the picture then? then clerics will be underpowered and demand a lifetime supply of cookies and their demand for more attack skills will skyrocket!

next when she plays a mage shes gonna want a mage that can heal them selves lol O_O id play a mage 24/7 if they could :D ...quit trying to mix classes OP and play the game nothigns gonna chagne even the dreaded loss of exp in abyss =/ OS dont care or wanna hear about our peoblems only if we spend sc wil they even hear what we have to say and thats only for 5 seconds so get over it ( sorry for being mean but ya kno this is rediculis)

Terranwolf
04-04-2009, 11:20 PM
I think they are underoverpowered and overunderpowered at the same time.

SweetLavender
04-04-2009, 11:22 PM
I think they are underoverpowered and overunderpowered at the same time.

lol (10 char)

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:22 PM
And they need to heal more like they've always been doing? The majority of clerics do heal and I rarely come across any that don't, unless DD. Asking more is kinda being greedy, unless your atleast higher than 40 or 50 then you won't have much luck finding an AWSOME cleric out there. Although I do come across fighters that won't mock often and leave it to the tanks or scrolled and buffed up guys, either every class has to yell at them to mock or they remember to. But that doesn't mean I have something against them.

I think you should become a cleric and see how its like, see how its like to have 1 skill and a broken, see how its like to be rushed to rev and always saying,"wait, its a 30 second cool down." See how its like without all those bagillion attacks, see how difficult a party class can be and you find out why it gets boring sometimes.

You won't have much luck getting every single cleric out there to heal. But you do have the majority of healers out there with you, just accept what you get

-.- just ppl being stupid =/ its p lvled nubs who dont knw how to heal cuase they did stuff blah blah blah idk if ther IS a clerec in the party i STILL use pots and stones ya cnat rely on a clerec thats just selfish its like " oh your here im gonna be lazy and nott heal my self YOU BETTER DO IT BISH" yea lets not do that

mehe25
04-04-2009, 11:22 PM
Gibson, inhale.......exhale, repeat.

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:22 PM
I think they are underoverpowered and overunderpowered at the same time.

wolfeh srsly it depends on the build lol

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Gibson, inhale.......exhale, repeat.

im breahting dont worry what ya want me to use sentences and correct grammer XD lol idc botu things like that lifes too short :P

mehe25
04-04-2009, 11:26 PM
-.- just ppl being stupid =/ its p lvled nubs who dont knw how to heal cuase they did stuff blah blah blah idk if ther IS a clerec in the party i STILL use pots and stones ya cnat rely on a clerec thats just selfish its like " oh your here im gonna be lazy and nott heal my self YOU BETTER DO IT BISH" yea lets not do that

//0

O well I wrote that some time ago....what your saying is kinda' plausible at this new era of clerics...


what ya want me to use sentences and correct grammer XD

I never said that, it just meant calm down a bit.

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:28 PM
//0

O well I wrote that some time ago....what your saying is kinda' plausible at this new era of clerics...

lol some ppl are lazy clerecs at that even me sometimes i just get bored if thers no1 to talk to lol so sometimes i space and dont do my job im not saying its the celrecs fault and im not saying its the fighters im saying DANCE SUCKA DANCE XD idk wth im saying just do your job mk pplss if 1 class dont do their job then do your job and protect your self mk mk good peace

im calm as a mid morning breeze ^^ just putting my opinion ina way i see fit makes me uncalm O.o mk then >.> your senses tel you things my fingers tell other same diff

defcom
04-04-2009, 11:29 PM
0.0 OMG and plus, Fighters should get a skill called Stare Down that you simply target an opponent and they get DoT magic damage done to them XD ROFL.
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Anyways, I think fighters are actually a really good class to play. Thats why there are so many of them in Apoline (not sure about other servers, but I'm guessing its the same) They are so durable no matter what build they are. I mean its a lot easier to survive fighting mobs with nothing but basic gear on. Other classes would have a harder time :/ So...I guess the reason why I'm an archer is cuz they are prob less popular. Idk..I just like the adrenaline pumping when I have mobs chasing after me, ready to mutilate my flesh and trample over my incapacitated body saying "Ahah!! Eat that you devil...This is for all my millions of comrades that have fallen to you players ;}"

gibson82650
04-04-2009, 11:31 PM
0.0 OMG and plus, Fighters should get a skill called Stare Down that you simply target an opponent and they get DoT magic damage done to them XD ROFL.
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Anyways, I think fighters are actually a really good class to play. Thats why there are so many of them in Apoline (not sure about other servers, but I'm guessing its the same) They are so durable no matter what build they are. I mean its a lot easier to survive fighting mobs with nothing but basic gear on. Other classes would have a harder time :/ So...I guess the reason why I'm an archer is cuz they are prob less popular. Idk..I just like the adrenaline pumping when I have mobs chasing after me, ready to mutilate my flesh and trample over my incapacitated body saying "Ahah!! Eat that you devil...This is for all my millions of comrades that have fallen to you players ;}"

low lvl archers are boreing just like other classes but when ya get to the high lvls fighter ...stand ther and attck mages stand ther and attck ....clerecs stand ther and attck ...archers RUN LIKE BLAZING HELL AND KITE woooooooooooo


its back up and im off peace ppl

Nephron
04-05-2009, 02:20 AM
I must thank the OP for brightening my day. I haven't laughed so much in a while. :)

andrey1990
04-05-2009, 02:28 AM
0.0 OMG and plus, Fighters should get a skill called Stare Down that you simply target an opponent and they get DoT magic damage done to them XD ROFL.
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Anyways, I think fighters are actually a really good class to play. Thats why there are so many of them in Apoline (not sure about other servers, but I'm guessing its the same) They are so durable no matter what build they are. I mean its a lot easier to survive fighting mobs with nothing but basic gear on. Other classes would have a harder time :/ So...I guess the reason why I'm an archer is cuz they are prob less popular. Idk..I just like the adrenaline pumping when I have mobs chasing after me, ready to mutilate my flesh and trample over my incapacitated body saying "Ahah!! Eat that you devil...This is for all my millions of comrades that have fallen to you players ;}"
agreed .

undefined
04-05-2009, 03:38 AM
@OP: lolwut. No one's going to take you seriously if you type like that.
I'm in the mood so...
>skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful
Um, no. I'm pretty positive OS is trying [albeit failing...] to make the classes as balanced as they can.
>kiting skill just like archers
So make an archer.
>a healing ability that is better than a clerics
Wat. That would eliminate the purpose of clerics, and they already have enough problems.
>clerics are only a support class
*cough*
>more than 5 stun abilities
Waaaat. o.o; No.
>because I don't like running to targets
Okay, seriously. Combining this with everything else..maybe Fighter just isn't the class for your playing style.

If OS were to add everything the fighter "needs" they'd be extremely overpowered and there'd be no point to the other classes. On top of that, it'd make the class boring. Whatever you think is wrong with the class, aside from skills, can mostly be solved by getting the best build for your class, or switching to a different class if you feel it doesn't suit you.

<_<
>_>

DF001
04-05-2009, 03:48 AM
Lmao, no one noticed that the OP is being sarcastic? >_> come on, his account was created four days ago

Galdrath
04-05-2009, 05:01 AM
WHAT!!!!!!! fighters are STR and END driven?????? man and here i put every point into INT so my fighter would have some brains...

gannon5069
04-05-2009, 05:30 AM
I think this is a joke because if fighters as you say need healing skills then the clerics dont have a job and there would be no point to haveing clerics at all. next thing we know you'll be saying that fighters need the Endure skill. I'm a cleric myself and it is hard being one because we have abusive people nagging for heals,buffs and revs. I'd personnally like to see you try being a cleric in kq because clerics are threatened more in kq than anywhere else and called all sorts of names. clerics are the most partied people because we have heal and rev we also hold our own in battle. clerics also need a higher magical defense because we have one the worst aggro's possible and tend to get attacked by mahgical opponents such as the mages in a pvp area. I know a fighter who wouldnt winge because he does all of is stats properly so they are balanced. all in all i think this particular thread is a joke

gannon5069
04-05-2009, 05:32 AM
sorry didnt post this but if you don't like running to targets then prty a mage to shoot and bring it over but seriously if you don't like running to your targets then that is just lazy

gannon5069
04-05-2009, 05:42 AM
hey clestenta just out of curiosity what level you are because this thread makes me think you are only level 5~10.

Orchids_Mantis
04-05-2009, 05:57 AM
Fighters do have a balance issue.

Axe fighters, who have most of the defense and hp of a tanker, but their weapons have the highest damage found in the game (seriously, why have a mage when you could have a massive stun skill and higher hp/def/damage by partying an axe fighter?)


Personally, I think the way to fix it is to lower axe damage a bit, decrease the fighter armor's def slightly and increase the def of shields to compensate the difference (as well as adding a more powerful mocking skill for tankers).


But ah well...that's me...

numot
04-05-2009, 06:11 AM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right. And fighters should get a kiting skill just like archers because its good for fighters and solo.


u phail ....get off teh forums >.<

u evar held a BK axe? prolly not....baiii

numot
04-05-2009, 06:23 AM
i take back my prior post...this has been an ill fated day when i cannnot detect sarcasm....dang toxins...

gannon5069
04-05-2009, 06:35 AM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right. And fighters should get a kiting skill just like archers because its good for fighters and solo.

There should be some one to check this kind of thing it is ridiculas pls stop

Stingerdan
04-05-2009, 06:41 AM
STR Fighters are overpowered.

darthnish
04-05-2009, 07:19 AM
will the op please die. <3

akarih
04-05-2009, 07:56 AM
Is this a thread with sarcasm? O.o
I am confused.

YoshimaruOrona
04-05-2009, 08:25 AM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right. And fighters should get a kiting skill just like archers because its good for fighters and solo.

Fighters are tanks >> They don't need more def, you damn fighters need to learn to wield a shield.

Fighters can get over 4k dmg if they tried. You don't need more dmg, get over it.

Admittedly, you guys get crap AoE skills (aside from deva), but clerics don't have any, so stop bishing and just play the game.

A healing ability that's better than clerics? I have a better idea. We'll completely eliminate clerics from the game and give archers, mages, and fighters a skill that makes them invincible for 30 seconds and has a 4.5 second cooldown. We'll call it "H4X".

Not enough HP? .....are you kidding me? I have a theory; get some END in your fighter and you'll have plenty of HP. STR isn't everything.

(For the record, there are fighters who can get 10k right now with a lv89 cap. So you're doing something wrong =.=)

Higher m.def than a cleric? =.=; And your reasoning for such is because clerics are a support class? Um, no. The reason for such is called "balance". Look it up.

More than 5 stun abilities? Once a-freakin-gain, the term is "balance". Fighters have 2 stuns, one of which is an AoE stun that deals damage ..... and you still want more? Also, get over your issue with running and play the game. You want distance skills? Play a mage or archer.

(Btw, since you don't know, I guess I'll tell you. Mages have fear, but their cooldown is a minute and 30 seconds. So shush. You can use devastate 3 times before a mage can fear you a second time.)

A skill that 1-hit-KO's other classes? ..... Excuse me, I think I just had an aneurism out of pure ignorance.

And you want a kiting skill? No. Play an archer. Fighters are tanks and epic single-target dmg dealers, not kiters.






I saw a thread where many fighters were picky about healing so to solve the problem I thought they should get their own heals!!

I'm glad you tried thinking of a solution but completely making the cleric class useless is unacceptable.

They have an HP stone count thats higher than all the other classes, if thats not enough, then they need more END, they need to wear some defense scrolls, or they need to take some pots with them.





No its not Im being sereous -.-

This person was serious too.

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152106&highlight=Fighters

It's pretty obvious that most people realize fighters are the most blessed of the classes, in terms of perks and benefits. Only a few people, such as yourself, decided to complain about fighters, thinking they don't have enough going for them.

wannabeguyo
04-05-2009, 09:23 AM
Fighters are overpowered.

Pruned that post, it's should be correct now :rolleyes:.

short-life
04-05-2009, 09:40 AM
well i m fighter......
but i disagree with ur idea that the fighter are most under-powered class...
well i dont think their is single underpowered class in fiesta at all...i.e if u understand ur class n know how to properly use ur stats(but first choose ur class according what u wanna do..like kite, solo,,heal, tank,DD)....

well my other alts are just nubs so dont know abt the other class yet but in fighter...if u r spr/str then no-one can compare u with dmg...n if u r pure end no-one can compare u with def n hp....

but if possible i wanna have next lvl of mock in higher lvl like 70x,80x,90x and so on... so that
fighter wont loose aggro when in pt n the mobs wont kill any cleric or mage or archer.(which is sad :( especially when many mobs can stunt now..n once pt member start to die fighter eventually dies)

well rest should be fine..n lets just till lvl 120 to get more skills

mehe25
04-05-2009, 09:41 AM
Whats with all the negativity here >.>

DincaTinel
04-05-2009, 09:44 AM
Fighters is the most balanced class in game and i now is a jk but the part wil longer atacks they wil get ranger atacks at lvl 110 sry to say that and they alrdy have 1 heal skil

heavylove
04-05-2009, 10:11 AM
Fighters need more strength, def, aoe skills, single target skills, weopon types, a healing ability that is better than a clerics, A LOT of HP(WAAAAAY TOO low for a fighter), higher m def than a cleric because clerics are only a support class and theauy shouldent have a lot of m def so fighters will balance that out. They also need more than 5 stun abilities because then it makes it fair that mages have fear, fighters need long range capability because I don't like running to targets.

O and I also say we go with a skill that 1 hit KO's other classes because fighters are saposed to be the most powerful so that sounds right. And fighters should get a kiting skill just like archers because its good for fighters and solo.

Mages are supposed to be the most powerful class in the game :rolleyes:

gannon5069
04-05-2009, 10:37 AM
actually fighters are but only if they have balanced stats

fireyair
04-05-2009, 10:40 AM
Fighters are waaay underpowered. They get no plasma cannons. That my friends, is prejudice.




Peace:cool:

bomme
06-21-2009, 03:11 AM
Fighters needing more power is the stupidest thing ive heard all day...

More power to mages and clerics! WOO!

lordalden
06-21-2009, 03:12 AM
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