Is it safe to enhance the Hellgait Weapons???

[srbth85]

I've heard from some people that Hellgaits were useless to enhance for a couple of reasons.
One is that when this person enhanced a hellgait, it gave him the + stats a lv 70+9 weapon would give..
I've seen one of them.. and was wondering is that a bug if so.. has the GM's fixed that bug?

Another is what are the gm's going to do with the new recent hellgaits that have dropped with stats on it...

Are they going to keep the stats and if so.. what happens to the old ones with no stats on it but had been already enhanced?
Wouldn't it be fair for those people who have enhanced a no stat hellgait to someone have stats put in it as well? Or can the gm's take out the stats on the Hellgaits that recently have dropped?

Can someone please give me a straight forward answer.. to get rid of all the rumors and the confusion about these weapons :D:confused:

[Chaola]

We have no answers.

GMs gave us no answers.

Until then, I would advice to not enhance an Hellgait...

[renzo23]

Mhmm. No one really knows what the GM's will do with the Hellgaits. Everyone is just making assumptions and expressing their thoughts on what they think will happen. But for now, we can all simply lie in wait. Oh, and to answer your question: In my opinion, don't enhance a Hellgait as it is unnecesary to do so atm since the cap hasn't been raised yet. Also, it's best not to +9 them as it only gives you the same amount of dmg as a lvl70+9 weapon.

[DincaTinel]

I've heard from some people that Hellgaits were useless to enhance for a couple of reasons.
One is that when this person enhanced a hellgait, it gave him the + stats a lv 70+9 weapon would give..
I've seen one of them.. and was wondering is that a bug if so.. has the GM's fixed that bug?

Another is what are the gm's going to do with the new recent hellgaits that have dropped with stats on it...

Are they going to keep the stats and if so.. what happens to the old ones with no stats on it but had been already enhanced?
Wouldn't it be fair for those people who have enhanced a no stat hellgait to someone have stats put in it as well? Or can the gm's take out the stats on the Hellgaits that recently have dropped?

Can someone please give me a straight forward answer.. to get rid of all the rumors and the confusion about these weapons :D:confused:



Tink a bit about the game not only for u the helgaits ads the normal dmg for a lvl 90 but if the GM's ads more dmg the Helgaits wil becomor more powerful than anyting so wil ruin the game so that mean cokies etc cash shop useles streght pots str poits or stats etc will be crazy of powerful imagine this a fighter with a helga axe that axe has 6k base dmg wth if the enhace wil add 6k more i mean that wil unbalance all the game he cod even solo Helga's in a record time :eek: all i wana say is tink a bit befor complaining and is safe to enhace them they wont be deleted or anithing ior changed the new helgaits with stats is a bug and the stats wil be removed soon ( just the stats on them)

[babymaker688]

Tink a bit about the game not only for u the helgaits ads the normal dmg for a lvl 90 but if the GM's ads more dmg the Helgaits wil becomor more powerful than anyting so wil ruin the game so that mean cokies etc cash shop useles streght pots str poits or stats etc will be crazy of powerful imagine this a fighter with a helga axe that axe has 6k base dmg wth if the enhace wil add 6k more i mean that wil unbalance all the game he cod even solo Helga's in a record time :eek: all i wana say is tink a bit befor complaining and is safe to enhace them they wont be deleted or anithing ior changed the new helgaits with stats is a bug and the stats wil be removed soon ( just the stats on them)


Say wha?!?........ I did not understand that

[nab753]

i duno wat GM's were thinking adding super high stats like +70 end +75 str etc etc to hellgaits....like more power is wat hellgait needs ryt? -.- imagine 2 lvl 91's fiting...1 with hellgait and 1 wit BK....the guy wit bk wil proly get 1 hit KOd. lol GM's better fix the hellgait powers or they r gona lose all the ppl with no hellgaits cuz its not fair for them

[tenmanher]

i might be wrong and i hope i am wrong, from my understanding about GM_Silkypico's sentence

From: GM_Silkypico - We're aware of the "change" and looking into it now.

as GM_Silkypico states they are aware of the "change", which i think it is an apirl fool's since he quote the word "change"

again i might be wrong

[kimikawaii]

I love how the GMs don't tell us stuff :c
I wouldn't enhance it lol.

When will we get +10s?! D:<

[kouturoq]

Tink a bit about the game not only for u the helgaits ads the normal dmg for a lvl 90 but if the GM's ads more dmg the Helgaits wil becomor more powerful than anyting so wil ruin the game so that mean cokies etc cash shop useles streght pots str poits or stats etc will be crazy of powerful imagine this a fighter with a helga axe that axe has 6k base dmg wth if the enhace wil add 6k more i mean that wil unbalance all the game he cod even solo Helga's in a record time :eek: all i wana say is tink a bit befor complaining and is safe to enhace them they wont be deleted or anithing ior changed the new helgaits with stats is a bug and the stats wil be removed soon ( just the stats on them)

First off, I didn't understand a single thing you said, so I'm not going to rack my brains over it trying to decipher that.

Although, lololol. Enhancing a 9x weapon does not add another 6k damage. On a level 90 axe it adds something like +1.1k by +9ing it, so what the hell made you think a Hellgait would have +6k dmg when +9d? XDDDDD

How do you know the stats will be removed? I think this is very much like the Gordon KQ blues bug, they were supposed to remove the KQ blues, but did they? Nope.

[zues8844]

Actually, enhancing the helgaits adds about 100 extra points, due to the GM's thinking we wouldn't enhance them. It's like BK's when they were released, at +9 they were hardly any better than at +0.

[kouturoq]

^^^^
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/elynsysnos/hellgaitstaff9.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/elynsysnos/lvl70.png

Looks like the level 70+9 damage bonus to me. :3

*Edit* And before any more people say "Don't complain, you have an OP weap as is" uh... would you like paying for Tier 4 enhancements for Tier 3 bonuses?
Don't think so considering it takes 3-4 stacks of each tile [on average] to get HG to +9.
*EditEdit* 1xall three tiles = 10,945 spark cash. Just under $15.
Pretty much impossible to +9 from 1 stack.
2xall three tiles = 21,690 spark cash. Just over $30.
Still, you have to be pretty damn lucky to +9 from 2 stacks.
3xall three tiles = 32,535 spark cash. Just under $50.
Possible...but it took an entire stack for mine to go up one, to +8. -.-
4xall three tiles = 43,380 spark cash. Just under $75. :3
You really want T3 bonuses after spending that much?

Note: This is before these bundle deals, a lot of people +9'd their HG's before then...but even so, you save what, 15%? @,@

[ah_ikeepsitreal]

It looks like an obvious bug, but since gm's haven't said anything best thing to do is wait. Then again, the magic dmg is already extremely high, so either way i'm hiding in a box so I don't get 10~15k dmg by helgaits T-T. I already get 5k dmg by mages T-T.

Wait for more info b4 enhancing :P, as of right now I wouldn't.

[hexawolf]

Well here is my thinking.
With all the chaos of so many people trying to kill helga over and over, and all the hellgaits around now, OS will end up trying to sweep it under the carpet like the gordon blue problem. In reality the probably do not know what to do. It would be alot of work to correct the initial problem to begin with, and they dont interact with the game enough to do so. I love Fiesta and always have fun, but i have played more FREE online games with online gold and the GM's are alot more player based than in this game. GM's are to busy to play anymore, and with the number of people that play and hack or spammers they wont stop, they still have along way to come to fix these problems. I do not think it is fair for anyone with the HellGaits, but what is OS to do about random people that +9 there HG and no stats? Stats are Random. I do like the HG but the power on them is more than anything around, and with the prices of them, and the same people\guilds killing him, they may just take helga's tomb away and leave current HG out. But the Helga's Tomb in Swamp of Dawn, will that have HG? And if so will the still be lvl 91? If u really want to +9 ur HG i would have the stones and sc ready but wait till there is an open OS answer to this for safety purposes of not wasting so much money. But of course this is there money maker so if they let if continue, think how much they will make, and how much people are going to lose out on no green HG. Or the players who will not be able to advance cause HG r stronger than GM weapons, besides the 255 to all stats.

[willemstyle]

Hellgaits just are powerful enough! Enhance them for looks, and not for the stats!

[srbth85]

Well here's the thing.. why should I enhance a hellgait that uses t4 stones, and t4 eyes/miles/gold nines if it'll just give me stats for a lv 70+9 that uses only t3 stones?

So yes I think its better to wait like others say.. cause it is real money we are using to enhance these weapons.

:)

Edit: I really think to make things fair for everyone who has a hellgait.. the gm's should try to fix the no stat hellgait by adding stats to them or just take out the stats in the recent hellgaits just to make things fair.. just my opinion that's all ^o^

[devin_nicolai]

Enhance the non-stated ones c:!

[borednl]

^^^^
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/elynsysnos/hellgaitstaff9.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/elynsysnos/lvl70.png

Looks like the level 70+9 damage bonus to me. :3

*Edit* And before any more people say "Don't complain, you have an OP weap as is" uh... would you like paying for Tier 4 enhancements for Tier 3 bonuses?
Don't think so considering it takes 3-4 stacks of each tile [on average] to get HG to +9.
*EditEdit* 1xall three tiles = 10,945 spark cash. Just under $15.
Pretty much impossible to +9 from 1 stack.
2xall three tiles = 21,690 spark cash. Just over $30.
Still, you have to be pretty damn lucky to +9 from 2 stacks.
3xall three tiles = 32,535 spark cash. Just under $50.
Possible...but it took an entire stack for mine to go up one, to +8. -.-
4xall three tiles = 43,380 spark cash. Just under $75. :3
You really want T3 bonuses after spending that much?

Note: This is before these bundle deals, a lot of people +9'd their HG's before then...but even so, you save what, 15%? @,@

I think it's unfair for the person to have a hellgait to begin with.. They should never have been released..

If someone would've been willing to +9 a lvl90 axe, then.. who the heck cares that they're stuck with "only a hellgait with lvl70 +9 stats on it."

But, even so, you make a good argument for why the hellgaits shouldn't be +9'ed.

Save your money, don't enhance that 2nd or 3rd hellgait you have. Outspark did you a favor.

[srbth85]

Well I guess in a way they did do me a favor..
But it would still be nice to be the one with a hellgait with uber + stats on it.....
eh......
^^

[mredlodge]

Edit: I really think to make things fair for everyone who has a hellgait.. the gm's should try to fix the no stat hellgait by adding stats to them or just take out the stats in the recent hellgaits just to make things fair.. just my opinion that's all ^o^

One of the worst ideas I've ever heard...take stats off weapons to make it fair. NPC weapons don't have stats. You just happen to have an npc Helga weapon. Look at the damage diff....it's still a Hellgait...rofl.




Why does everyone talk so much about pvp with these weapons? You're a fool if you fight someone with a Helga weapon and you don't have one(even though they won't have the 1-hit KO power everyone thinks).

I think about using these weapons for grinding more than anything. It's so frustrating listening to ppl who wanna nerf them because pvp won't be 'fair".

[tenmanher]

One of the worst ideas I've ever heard...take stats off weapons to make it fair. NPC weapons don't have stats. You just happen to have an npc Helga weapon. Look at the damage diff....it's still a Hellgait...rofl.




Why does everyone talk so much about pvp with these weapons? You're a fool if you fight someone with a Helga weapon and you don't have one(even though they won't have the 1-hit KO power everyone thinks).

I think about using these weapons for grinding more than anything. It's so frustrating listening to ppl who wanna nerf them because pvp won't be 'fair".

i could be completely wrong but most people with power will use that power, a good example was most pkers are or was mostly have +9 equipments and charm. so do you think people who have helga weapon will not use them on other player?

[kouturoq]

lol... I'm pretty sure on Apoline the only people that will have to "fear" PvPing Hellgaits are two certain guilds that will more than likely be warring the hell outta each other. XD Dunno 'bout the other servers though.

If they add a 9x Abyss >.> I won't be going in there for a while, even though I have a Hellgait, my mage is HG axe food.

And fyi, not everyone abuses their power.

[daword123]

Helga is overpowered

Whit 50% cooke its get +3000k dmg more Right? u overral dmg can be 10000-12000

[mage250]

It's safe now coz they changed the damage of te HG items such that it matches the enhancement ;3

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