come on!!

[trippy1]

fix the lvl85 cleric blues so we can use the buff, god, you always fixing the little things, some of us put alot of gold for these for them not to work!!

[devin_nicolai]

You should know that they dont work?

[YoshimaruOrona]

I'm a little confused over why clerics are obsessing so much over their broken safe/life set.

It's a 100-ish increase in HP. What diff can that possibly make at 8x?

[cercia]

I'm a little confused over why clerics are obsessing so much over their broken safe/life set.

It's a 100-ish increase in HP. What diff can that possibly make at 8x?

My goddess, Yoshimaru, don't you know that 100 hp is like, the most important thing in the world?

I mean, how else are they going to make a level 1 character have 1k hp? The life set fix is just soooooo necessary for that, because you know how fragile those level one newbs are, right?

Right?

I mean, like, seriously, how can you possibly expect to kill 5 slimes with only 45 hp and one skill or less? Its just...an abomination, you know, to attempt such a horrid thing with only +3 or +6 NPC weapons. There's like, no hope for survival.

All because they won't fix that Life Set buff.



Such a pity. :rolleyes:

[himthok]

Theyre fixing the heal bug. Stop complaining.

[cercia]

But that's a little thing.

That 100 hp more for the buff is far more important than the ability to heal your party members by clicking on them. Like, you know, healing someone for 500+ is sooooo overrated.




....what in the world has gotten into me today? Oh well. I'm good today, thanks. No, wait, wrong thread. >.<

[joecracker]

its more like 2xx hp ;)

[spookyiness]

it still doesn't really affect gameplay as much as the party glitch did
that affected a lot more clerics who just weren't used to using the f-keys like old women like me are
it's more of a handy thing to have sometimes.

and just because it's not listed in todays patch notes doesn't mean it's not included in them (how often do we find out things after the game comes back up), and it certainly doesn't mean it's not being worked on - how do you know the fix for the bin errors wasn't directly responsible - would you rather get more bin errors, or just wait a little longer for the programmers to sort it out?

didn't think so

[kilalachan]

I think the point trippy1 was making is that the Blue Set bug/glitch occured 3-4 weeks ago, around the same time as the .BIN/DC problem, and would have thought it'd be fixed by now. At the time, I was hoping the Blue Set bug would be fixed along with the BIN error at the same time but that was not the case. Now nearly a month, I think some Clerics are getting a little upset as to why this isn't fixed yet. At least thats what I think trippy1 is trying to say.

[heavylove]

fix the lvl85 cleric blues so we can use the buff, god, you always fixing the little things, some of us put alot of gold for these for them not to work!!

I would consider a bug on some armor that not everyone has a little problem compared to the "not being able to click on pt members" bug that everyone has ;/

[Sharlyne]

well is a big deal for some people cuz they pay a lot for a godly 85 ._. i guess

[apallday]

I'm a little confused over why clerics are obsessing so much over their broken safe/life set.

It's a 100-ish increase in HP. What diff can that possibly make at 8x?

lol your kidding right? its 25% of there buff dude, come on know the game or dont talk at all =/.

[johlogz]

heheheh yea.. that bug is been there for a month now. :D and 25% of tha t3 buff is +160hp and when u get tha t4 buff u get +280 more hp on buff with full set.. IF IT WASNT BUGGED.

[Darksnow]

i agree they should update it. =D clerics do all the work. pt bugged or the super buff should be fixed. =D

[spookyiness]

well is a big deal for some people cuz they pay a lot for a godly 85 ._. i guess

godly 85's are still godly 85's, regardless of if they produce a higher buff for someone else when you buff them

yes, it's an annoying glitch, but it's not what i'd call life threatening

[YoshimaruOrona]

lol your kidding right? its 25% of there buff dude, come on know the game or dont talk at all =/.


heheheh yea.. that bug is been there for a month now. :D and 25% of tha t3 buff is +160hp and when u get tha t4 buff u get +280 more hp on buff with full set.. IF IT WASNT BUGGED.

Oh no, I got the exact amount wrong.

Sue me.

The question still stands. What's the big deal about losing 300- HP? Almost every 8x player gets 4k points of health when t4 buffed (some archers and mages might not reach that). What difference does the 25% increase make?

At best, it only makes a difference in Helga's Tomb and DT. But helga's tomb is a lv100+ map, and DT is an instance dungeon that seems to be level 9x or higher, so obviously every bit of HP counts on those maps.


EDIT: I suppose the buff bug could also be crucial in pvp situations, but since I dont love or even enjoy pvp all that much, I wouldn't care about the broken buff. I'm personally more worried about my lost 700-800 HP per rejuv b/c my levan armor is bugged. I couldnt care less about the extra buff HP if I tried.

[andrey1990]

I hope they will fix it soon T_T

[borednl]

Even if it was +50 life.. if an item is supposed to do something and it doesn't.. then that's naturally disappointing, especially if the person invested a lot of their time to make the gold to buy it.

MMO's like this one are all about doing every little thing you can to perfect your character, and the result is that all these little things adds up. When they do, a person enjoys the game and feels that their time was well spent. When there are a lot of "little things" that add up to detract from someone's enjoyment of the game, then they feel cheated. And they should.

To those of you who call it "whining," well of course whining does occur from time to time, but every complaint or discussion about an issue is not "whining."

I will define what whining is, since so many accusers don't seem to know the foggiest idea what the word actually means.

whine
   /ʰwaɪn, waɪn/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hwahyn, wahyn] Show IPA verb, whined, whin⋅ing, noun
–verb (used without object)
1. to utter a low, usually nasal, complaining cry or sound, as from uneasiness, discontent, peevishness, etc.: The puppies were whining from hunger.
2. to snivel or complain in a peevish, self-pitying way: He is always whining about his problems.

I would say that the person was venting a legitimate frustration that is shared by more than just themselves and that they weren't whining.

Here is an example of what "whining" is:

"I just got an 85 blue and I enhanced it, please fix the problem, I spent all my money on it. Please fix it, my god why isn't it fixed. pleeease fix the problem. Why do you all have to fix all the dumb stuff, just fix my lvl85 blue. fix it please please! this game sucks, I just wanted a lvl85 blue. I spent all my money on it, why can't they fix it."

But then again.. those accusers, who infer or directly state that someone is "whining" (when a legitimate complaint is made in a non-whining way), know that the person isn't actually whining. They're just trying to boost their own ego by attacking someone that they consider to be an easy target. They are making a complaint about the complaint, in a self-pitying and irritated fashion. As though they had to suffer, for having to have read the complaint.

Hm.. sounds familiar.. Sort of like a definition I just posted.. Maybe I should define the words "bully" and "hypocrite."

[YoshimaruOrona]

I never said people were supposed to continue playing like nothing's wrong. Of course something's wrong: A function of the game is broken (big surprise...lol)

My posts were about the life/safe set in particular. The people that have complained or reported on the broken blues (for the most part) have spoken in the sense that JUST the safe/life set is broken. Well, my levan set is broken too, which I need to support my party more efficiently, and I'm none too happy about it.

I suppose thats just an attention-seeking kind of thing, but w/e. Nobody in this world is perfect. I just want other players to realize two things.

1) It's not just the life/safe sets that are broken.

2) The game is still very much playable without their full effects (this applies to both the levan/great and life/safe sets).

Also, this thread is, to some extent, pointless (no offense to the OP, this is just my opinion).

There's been multiple threads on this topic; only the earliest ones have been productive since it was a bug report at the time. I'm entirely content with the ones who reported the bug to begin with. But I'm pretty sure by now that all of us (including OutSpark, I hope) realize that cleric blues are bugged.

The complaints are very much justified and legitimate, as you mentioned, but making a new thread every 3-4 days about it isn't doing anything, or they'd be fixed by now. We all know a GM isn't going to come on this thread in particular and comment on when exactly the cleric sets are going to be fixed and why it's taking so long. (If one did, that'd be pretty miraculous.) If people want an answer, every single one who cares about their broken set should use the Contact a CSR link, imo. They get a direct response as to what's being done, and OutSpark gets annoyed. So then they'll bother OnsOn about it, and that should produce results, I would think.

OutSpark can ignore this thread and a number of others, but the Customer Service Reps can't ignore 300 tickets about the broken cleric set.

[Rzpect]

The bonus Endure hp is so important because...
well with that bonus hp...its that much less time a cleric has to spam the heal key to keep you alive..
just like a millionaire who picked up a penny and he said "This is one less penny he has to work to become a Billionaire"

[trippy1]

see I made a point here everyone missed , only one person attemped to give a answer,, everyone else was a bunch of rude ****,,,it's not like clerics have all the skills the other 3 classes has so yes we have a right to complain..

[yourmojo]

Well I dunno how many people actually play a cleric, and I don't know how many people are actually GOOD clerics...But even +100HP boost is an awesome thing to have. Seriously, 100HP can mean a whole lot of difference for the healer.

If you don't play a cleric, and you're not good...Then don't go around talking like you know anything.

[angerchild]

I'm a little confused over why clerics are obsessing so much over their broken safe/life set.

It's a 100-ish increase in HP. What diff can that possibly make at 8x?

It's not just the Safe Set or the Life Set, it's the Great Armor Set and the Levan Set as well...and at 8x that 25% does tend to be a bit more than 100 hp.

Every little bit counts...hopefully they'll fix it soon.

[cercia]

It's not just the Safe Set or the Life Set, it's the Great Armor Set and the Levan Set as well...and at 8x that 25% does tend to be a bit more than 100 hp.

Every little bit counts...hopefully they'll fix it soon.

We survived before without it.

Now, the armors that everyone is complaining about provide higher def, m.def, and eva than equivalent level gear, in addition to potentially higher stat maxes, and people are complaining that their buff isn't as good as it didn't use to be.

The complaint has been filed with OS. It is in their court to handle now, and considering their recent troubles with patches breaking critical functions, I think this continued complaint is in fact whining.

But hey, that's what we do best.

[vandaluske]

Rayse confirmed to me yesterday ( after servers were up from downtime) that ALL bugged BLUE sets will be fixed, and they are working on them as we type. So don't just sell them just yet ;) just be a little patient

[YoshimaruOrona]

see I made a point here everyone missed , only one person attemped to give a answer,, everyone else was a bunch of rude ****,,,it's not like clerics have all the skills the other 3 classes has so yes we have a right to complain..

Bull. Crap.

Let's see your first post again.


fix the lvl85 cleric blues so we can use the buff, god, you always fixing the little things, some of us put alot of gold for these for them not to work!!

What's the point? We're supposed to be mad because the set isn't fixed? Oh well, get over it and play. The game worked just fine when we didn't have t5 buffs and epic rejuv's and restores, and it still works now.

Deal.
With.
It.

There's way too many damn threads about this now. You're not saying anything new, just repeating the same complaint.

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182981
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171471&highlight=Broken+cleric
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182791
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173421
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166151
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157291
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161741
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184961
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184091

Unless you have something new to add, don't act like your particular complaint is the most important thing on the forums. Compared to the other threads, which are composed of people reporting the bug or asking if the set is bugged, you're whining.

And I didn't say you can't complain -.- I said it was useless to do it here.



The complaints are very much justified and legitimate, as you mentioned, but making a new thread every 3-4 days about it isn't doing anything, or they'd be fixed by now. We all know a GM isn't going to come on this thread in particular and comment on when exactly the cleric sets are going to be fixed and why it's taking so long. (If one did, that'd be pretty miraculous.) If people want an answer, every single one who cares about their broken set should use the Contact a CSR link, imo. They get a direct response as to what's being done, and OutSpark gets annoyed. So then they'll bother OnsOn about it, and that should produce results, I would think.

OutSpark can ignore this thread and a number of others, but the Customer Service Reps can't ignore 300 tickets about the broken cleric set.