Capped Players Ruining In-Game Economy..?

[thalegend7695]

Imo, I think capped people some are ruining the economy, as well as massive SC users. Since they are paying more then +9's are worth, others follow and sell things overpriced. My friend just told me he sold a godly +9 CG Staff for 15g to a capped player. 15g? That's a bid overpriced imo....I remember before people were capped and didn't have gems lvl 50 +9 CG Staff was 2g. Now that they are rich and are making alts, they are messing up our economy x.x

[WindCaster]

Agreed. ;_;

[zues8844]

On every server. Agreed.

[Eluchil]

I definitely agree.

[WindCaster]

So what we learned from this is to always sell to a capped player, but never buy from a capped player. :D

Or at least ones w/o any idea on how the pricing system is supposed to work. ._.

[divine_sword]

agreed lvl 50 weps were so cheap +9'd back then. i bought my former lvl 50 2hand +9 for 1.8g but now people overprice it to about 3g or so. RIP OFF!!! too overpriced, thats why i only look for weps/armor for my lvl not higher lvls that i wont reach for awhile. but it seems like the higher lvl weps are getting cheaper because there's more lower lvls then higher lvls now. anybody agree?

[Hipposaur]

Hopefully, cap will raise then.
Gah, IRL inflation has invaded Fiesta!
D:
*runs*

[thalegend7695]

Thanks for the feedback guys ;o *waves +9 50 wand at capped players and get 1hitted by a charmed +9 BK Axe*

[WindCaster]

Thanks for the feedback guys ;o *waves +9 50 wand at capped players and get 1hitted by a charmed +9 BK Axe*

You forgot the part where they buy the wand for 20g. :O

[King_Obito]

Lol? I don't agree with you at all. Don't specially aim to one level group unless you have exact percents or numbers of people. There are plenty of 7x and 6x people who do the same. You make us seem bad.

[TITLE]

And fellow fiestans still buys and sell like a capped player. Irony.. :rolleyes:

[Hipposaur]

Lol? I don't agree with you at all. Don't specially aim to one level group unless you have exact percents or numbers of people. There are plenty of 7x and 6x people who do the same. You make us seem bad.
I agree now thinking about this again.
Capped people aren't the bad guys, were your friends!
>:3

[WindCaster]

Lol? I don't agree with you at all. Don't specially aim to one level group unless you have exact percents or numbers of people. There are plenty of 7x and 6x people who do the same. You make us seem bad.

They probably also have loads of SC so they can +9 things and sell them overpriced. True, it shouldn't be directed at just capped players, but they're often the people with the most money.

[thalegend7695]

Lol? I don't agree with you at all. Don't specially aim to one level group unless you have exact percents or numbers of people. There are plenty of 7x and 6x people who do the same. You make us seem bad.

I wasn't directing it to any certain level, that was just an example. I see people [I admit I do as well] sell my +9's to usually high leveled players since they pay higher and I can buy my next lvl +9's easier. Since a lot of capped players made alts, they pay high for them since they don't need money for their capped [maybe a level 95 +9 or hellgait]. And it's capped player swho tend to make alts and pay a lot for them vs somebody level 60-80 unless they retired that character.

[King_Obito]

Then what was the point in the thread? You just contradicted yourself...

[krazyboi]

Then what was the point in the thread? You just contradicted yourself...

did u just say contradicted?
we arent playing fiesta court lolz

[King_Obito]

did u just say contradicted?
we arent playing fiesta court lolz

OMG, we aren't?
[/sarcasm]

[great_wolf]

well, I'm pretty sure that it isn't the capped players that are ruining the economy but the level 70-79 range. the reason is kkp is a good cash grinding kq. I only realized that after my archer got to lvl 80 and im stuck with 40c. Each kq you can get over 200s worth of mats. no need to +9 any weapons when you can just waste time grinding it or being a leech >.> (this is my opinion =3)

[thalegend7695]

did u just say contradicted?
we arent playing fiesta court lolz

Lol, not really. Imo, 85% of the economy being higher is the capped. The rest, meh, sc hoes. xD But still, a capped player is more willing to pay higher on +9's compared to somebody with like a level 60 main. Or is a new player.

[King_Obito]

Lol, not really. Imo, 85% of the economy being higher is the capped. The rest, meh, sc hoes. xD But still, a capped player is more willing to pay higher on +9's compared to somebody with like a level 60 main. Or is a new player.

Most capped people don't really even have a reason to use SC considering they don't have a lot to use it on. Also I don't know where you are getting your logic, even though this isn't the best wording, most of my capped friends are poor? I mean come on we waste money on our 8x gear..

[thalegend7695]

Most capped people don't really even have a reason to use SC considering they don't have a lot to use it on. Also I don't know where you are getting your logic, even though this isn't the best wording, most of my capped friends are poor? I mean come on we waste money on our 8x gear..

Lol.. I said 85% are capped, the rest are sc hoes, sc hoes ccan be ANY level, just have real life money =P. And I'm getting my logic from the people I see sell +9's to capped players. Such as the example on the first op. And I never said all capped were rich, just more are willing to pay more for their alts that actually do have money.

[King_Obito]

Lol.. I said 85% are capped, the rest are sc hoes, sc hoes ccan be ANY level, just have real life money =P. And I'm getting my logic from the people I see sell +9's to capped players. Such as the example on the first op. And I never said all capped were rich, just more are willing to pay more for their alts that actually do have money.

Firstly, don't call them "hoes" they aren't gardening tools. They do have names and I'm sure you wouldn't want to be called the same. I don't know what else is to be said about this since I've said everything I can. So this post will be concluded by saying don't make a thread about capped people when you have little to no proof. Kthnx.

[thalegend7695]

Firstly, don't call them "hoes" they aren't gardening tools. They do have names and I'm sure you wouldn't want to be called the same. I don't know what else is to be said about this since I've said everything I can. So this post will be concluded by saying don't make a thread about capped people when you have little to no proof. Kthnx.

Hmm, I'm pretty sure most people know people who buy a lot of sc regularly are called sc hoes ;/ and I do have proof. My own experiences/what I've seen ;o

edit: kthnxbie?

[Marck]

ehm *** going on here?! o.0 capped players don't ruin economy... like mostly of us musted do alt just to have money to can buy something by people more low lvl that got greens,blues, purples, abyss, DT etc added when we were already capped and than not getting anything as dropp! and i found out by myself that not helps... i only losing money each alt i start!

[Wolfdevil007]

Well here is my point of view about this mather.

When you start this game you do it naked and with a single weapon that cost less than 1 silver, the way you start getting money has a lot of roads.
Even tho some of those roads may be FORBITTEN and others are slow/lame/boring/fast/succesfull etc etc, yet there are.

I do admit, persons with cash shop items can easily make over 20g per weak lol, wich creates a total unbalance in pricing like outbiding the rest for example.
While none cs users can make around some golds per weak (if works really hard in their scroll/stone production).
But is something you will see in any game/rl/dimension you could be in. There is always going to be rich people.
Eventually you could be lucky enought to get a godly drop according to the current cap raise lvl, and sell it for over 40g lol -kallas- *cought cought* and as well you get a really high amount of golds , wich will allow you to improve economy.

Anyhow i would like to add in order to finish my opinion, the subject of your Thread is wrong, No Capped players dont mes up economy, CS players do. Becuase i do admit i have been withness of how easy can a cs player get golds. and we all know about it.
yet i do say there are many CS players dont get advantage of CS to get high amount, just slow amount enought to compensate their use in real money.
But guys This is what economy about, Inflation/chances/The one with most resources will get richer bc they can do it.

I do ask respect for capped players, not everyone is rich or mess up with the economy, it kinda offends me as well, Please next time ask in a different way or how about asking
Who is messing with economy?, and dont bring all capped players in general. Like wise i have mentioned CS users NOT in genera, just some

[thalegend7695]

Well I'm not talking about ALL capped, I'm talking about the kind who buy +9's for a higher price then worth which influences lower levels do copy their way of buying and sell it for high price. I guess I should have stated in OP that some capped players, even though I meant it in that fashion, some probably wouldn't know =P

[green-day]

I actually agree and disagree ... But i do believe that capped players earned that amount of money through hard work, well .. that why there capped at first place :/

On the other hand CS users do have an influence to the economy !! How ever you don't need to be SC user to make a good amount of Gold or buy your self a good +9's gears !!

One more thing . i don't want to brag and go ... I did and i have ...
just want to say iv been economically stable LOL and providing every thing my Fighter needs in a 2-3 month period of playing :) .

so its not that hard ,No matter how the economy were Corrupted or twisted .

* Deal with it , Don't whine about it *

[krazykris_2000]

All I can say is... Lol....


Oh and wannabewinter is a nub! ~.^

[Blaxcalibur]

of course..since capped ppl ARE the only rich ppl in the game. >_>; seriously, theres a million lvl 7x w/ full +9s n plenty gold sittin in there storage, n they prolly have never worked on a prod skill past t1. if "capped" players are buyin for these items crazy prices, why were they bein sold that high in the first place? sellin a godly cg wand for 15g doesnt happen on the daily, so i know "cuz capped players buy errything for SUPER-DEE-DUPER high prices" cant be the reason.

[noob-cy]

What kind of economy you talking about.

[noob-cy]

And by the way.. I know level 5x,6x,7x people that have double of my money anyways.

[Myrielle]

lol i agree to that..im capped myself but lol >>' i cant even buy stuff neither for my archer nor for my fighter lol. i have like 600s x.x'
since the old cap raised prices on everythin raised aswell :s and im sure once cap raises again itll become worse
wont be able to buy 90+ stuff for my archer yay

XD

[thalegend7695]

All I can say is... Lol....


Oh and wannabewinter is a nub! ~.^


Pfft, go back to your frosted flakes nub ;/

[thalegend7695]

of course..since capped ppl ARE the only rich ppl in the game. >_>; seriously, theres a million lvl 7x w/ full +9s n plenty gold sittin in there storage, n they prolly have never worked on a prod skill past t1. if "capped" players are buyin for these items crazy prices, why were they bein sold that high in the first place? sellin a godly cg wand for 15g doesnt happen on the daily, so i know "cuz capped players buy errything for SUPER-DEE-DUPER high prices" cant be the reason.

What kind of economy you talking about.

Like I said, based off what I see daily :D. If I ask somebody for a price of a +9 like a level 60 +9 wand would be 10g because it has 2x end/int and I say "no thank you, to high for me" and then reply "Lol, I'm watching to overprice it so so capped dude buys it xD" [just happened x.x]

[DemonBlitzKragor]

I'm a poor bum. I live in a cardboard box. I walk around with a max of about 1c-1g daily. I can't afford anything. The end. Q.Q.

[thalegend7695]

I'm a poor bum. I live in a cardboard box. I walk around with a max of about 1c-1g daily. I can't afford anything. The end. Q.Q.

Because your lazy >:@ go cap D; CB 2 - Now is plenty of time @.@

[Iffrit]

Capped Players Ruining In-Game Economy..?
Answer : not all capped players, only the rich and crazy ones that buy things overprice :P but thats like 5% of us (capped players).

Offtopic : Wintercast ish a noob o.o

[thalegend7695]

Capped Players Ruining In-Game Economy..?
Answer : not all capped players, only the rich and crazy ones that buy things overprice :P but thats like 5% of us (capped players).

Offtopic : Wintercast ish a noob o.o

I quit Milky cuz I'm to godly :D
On topic// That 5% must be at least 50 people then xD.

[BlackDragonEX]

lol im cappped,and if you know me i dont buy things for what there worth.i buy for less :)
and yeah i sell things for alot more that what i think there worth,But who doesn't?
Capped people don't ruin the economy,or however it's spelt, It's the people who enchance for others which get like 10g-25G a enchancement do that say 5 times get 1gem and WALLA! Buy the gear they want for what ever price they have to. I Myself are no where near 'rich' Ig 11G? Thats not alot? Most capped people arn't that 'rich' either Just the few like leon nub whos got 5gem lol. So as i said its who you call the ' cs hoes' who are ruining the economy,or however it's spelt, And i agree with dark,making a alt only makes me worse off unless i find some godlies to sell on the way to cap :)

[thalegend7695]

...11g isn't a lot of money? x.x and pfft, if u have 11g pay logan xD. To me alot of money is having 5g+ >_>

[Nipah]

11g really isn't a lot of money. to me, that's dead poor and i start panicking.

;D

[DemonBlitzKragor]

1 gold is a lot of money for me ._.!

[thalegend7695]

pfft, same here DBK ._. 1g is the minimum i ahve to have x.x I like to have like 5g :P

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Minimum is at least 1c for me and max is usually 1g and sometimes 2g =D!

[thalegend7695]

DBK, you scare me, you just scare me ._.

[DemonBlitzKragor]

I love it shadow cause scary is good =).

[TITLE]

>.> Some seem to be derailing the thread.

I think it's "Capped Players Running In-Game Economy"

I don't know how many times I passed GO, but I can use the cash about now.

[Kyo_Sama]

how is this economy breaking again ?

i mean simple economics dictates that your not going to sell the item for the least amount possible. So if the capped player buys it, then realistically he's made some lower level richer. Said lower level now has more wealth, the money hasnt been lost or destroyed only transfered, now then its upto the lower level to spend / save accordingly.

On the other end of the spectrum, whose seriously going to buy that item once the higher levels alt is done with it if hes over pricing it ?

Supply and Demand is s fine little pieces of economics. So are monopolies and rarities

[King_Obito]

This thread is still going?

[thalegend7695]

actually I was trying to lead it to off-topic for peoples opinions on the new one I made ;o

[King_Obito]

I see it got closed ker~pwn`d.

[thalegend7695]

What got closed? xD I'm guessing u wanna say that since u contacted a CL to close it and u want a last remark? oO?

[jannij777]

....you know about the scroll skills,stone skills,and all that skills ?thats the real way to make money recipes you can find in lvl50,60,70 abyss, +a lot more nice things caped player doing alts again ,just to get in this lvl50,60,70 abyss to get mats,to make scrolls,or stones ,at end you will sell them and get good money
nobody was rich at start

[King_Obito]

Why would I have a need to contact a CL through my sleep? She closed it 2 hrs before I even woke up..lol. I like accusing people sometimes too.

[delfy]

agreed for sure , but what do u want to do about it??? some pll are just that addticted they have so many gold , that 15g is nothing.. just let them play and let them over price . own addicted fould

[thalegend7695]

Why would I have a need to contact a CL through my sleep? She closed it 2 hrs before I even woke up..lol. I like accusing people sometimes too.

What lol? When did the thread get closed xD

[pokemon4955]

Hm T4 Hp pots used to be 2s,now,its 10s
:eek:
T3+9enhance 4g,now=10g :eek:
Life is complicated.Or game. xD Get over it xD

[DarkSlasher]

The thread seems open to me. =O

[Now_In_Lush_Color]

I really don't think it's right for you to blame capped players for the bad in-game economy. It's just greed, not level; I see plenty of lower levels overprice things as well; anyone could be "blamed" for the overpricing of items. We all just want more gold for less, simple as that.

[SLoW503]

okay uhmm its an economy!!! things raise due to inflation and things become more in demand due to alts and new players. and by the way when you get to high levels things cost more and you need to sell for more to get some money. try to grind out and sell things cheap like your saying and see if you have money to upgrade... not that things arent overpriced but if you do selective shopping oh well its not so bad... so yeah remember things will cost more because money eventually drops in value* and those who complain about the items made with production should try and see how much items are used for them... versus selling the mats and things get more expensive as you play so get use to it if you ever played a mmorpg

[allyyCORE]

Lol? I don't agree with you at all. Don't specially aim to one level group unless you have exact percents or numbers of people. There are plenty of 7x and 6x people who do the same. You make us seem bad.

I also disagree.
I mean, if it weren't for sc users, you wouldn't have +9 gear to begin with.
If we didn't have capped players (who some happen to be rich), there wouldn't exist the opportunity to restart a new character, buy +9 gear from less fortunate players who need money, and at that, a higher price.

We keep the economy going.

If you buy equipment that's too expensive, guess who's fault is that?
Yours.

Maybe if you stopped and the rest followed, prices would drop.

Supply and demand is the name of the game ladies and gents, and basic economics applies to a virtual economy.

[delfy]

**** topic

[Chewy]

I agree with both sides, with some aspects.

Sure there are players that are overcharging things, its called inflation, its in every single MMO and its a part of life. You cant just mark the upper levels though, not all of us are like that. But the thing is though, if people are willing to pay it, why would they stop? I mean, im not rich ingame, and sure I hate that I don't have enough money to buy really good things, but oh well, that's what happens lmao. If nobody was willing to pay the price, it would go down, but that's not usually the case.

Take a look at the business section of the news or something, it's how the world works, that's why market competition is good =)

[pokemon4955]

Well inflation starts when one person tries to sellsomething at a high prices and then eventually most of the vendors do the same thang i guess ;D
If that so,we can start selling goodies at alower price , like pots T4 hp used to be 10 lets try to make it 3s or scrol t3 scrol 6s ;D but i dont thinik thataint gona happen since everyone in market is selfish and wanted to get a higher profit than their base and i feel thesame too ;x

[magiceva]

I agree economy is getting from bad to worse. However, there are several reasons that leads to this situation.

I guess there is a general consensus that rich ppl with bad spending habbits make a big impact on our game economy. Those are the ppl who buy things that they want without consider the true value or their own budget. Often it sends a signal to the community that the inflation is getting worse.

Like you said, 15g for a cg bow is an insane price. Does the situation really get that bad now? The real problem comes when all richer players are all willing to pay 15g and leave the lower/poorer players nothing.

But for the moment, I guess most of capped and richer player won't even consider to buy this bow. So there is no need to blame all the capped and rich. (especially make King_obito worried a lot)

PS: If you have ever used SC especially on enchancement, 30g is not a lot if you sell your +9 stuffs after you lvl.
And to pokemon4955:
the 10s scroll price in the market isn't that bad when you take the high cost of mats into consideration. The profit for scroll maker are relatively the same to sell at 6s when the mats were dirt cheap.
Nowadays, most of money do go to KKP farmer's pocket. This is good for economy balance, but scroll buyers won't be too happy.:o


wow, I have written too much on this topic XD

[SLoW503]

the problem is that when dropping prices for things what would you get when you actually make those pots or scrolls? you would be making more just selling the mats then considering that you have to also take time gather mats just to make them.. and also being able to raise prices on items that are really hard to get is something that you have a right to* we all know how hard it is to get those drops so if you dont use it you could use the money... besides it just works that way in any economy games or real life... supply and demand??