Helga Raid Schedule ~ Part 2

[IroguroMeek]

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The schedule above is approximately the raid times and dates for each guild for the month of April and half of May. The free days may be given to any guild/group who meet the requirements and can provide the information needed. Remember, the expected respawn time will not always be as listed in the Calendar. It is just an estimated time, it can be earlier or later, but it should be somewhere around there. Guilds must kill Helga 2 hours after respawn, so make sure that your guild is ready atleast an hour before the expected respawn time. Guilds/Groups are still welcomed to switch their day with another guild/group upon agreement if the respawn times do not suit them.

The 2 hour time limit will go into effect on

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

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I want to remind everyone that, this schedule guarantees your guild that no one from any of the guilds on the list will interrupt your raid. It does not guarantee, that it will stop all other players on the server from ruining your raid. I hope that, people who are not in these guilds do not attempt to ruin raids, and instead ask these guilds to join the raid instead. You have a much higher chance of getting a weapon if you ask nicely to help these guilds, rather than trying to kill-steal it. We will test this schedule, and see how it works for this week. If it works out well, we will continue with it, and if it does not we can reformulate ideas. For those people, who have a personal grudge or vendetta against a guild, please let that go and do not interfere with their guild raid. I strongly urge, that on free days, the guilds on this list do not attempt or attend Helga raids, we want to give everyone else who is not on that list a shot as well.


Rules: PLEASE READ!!!
-Each guild master is responsible for telling the next guild master the death time of Helga.
-Each guild master who agrees to this schedule, must make sure that all their guildmates agree and not disrupt other guild's raids.
-If a guild member who's guild is on that list, ruins another guilds raid, that guild member's guild will receive a warning. If it happens again, that guild will lose its rights to a slot on the schedule. note Guilds must provide screenshots or a video of the offender(s) in order to prevent false accusations.
-If the offending guild ruins another guild on the lists raid, resulting in that guild being unable to kill Helga because of it. The offending guild will lose its spot during the week, and the spot will be given to the victim guild so they may try again.
-If a guild cannot make their raid schedule, they are welcomed to trade their day with any of the other guilds upon agreement between guild masters.
-If a guild is unsuccessful on killing Helga on their appointed day and they give up, They may:
a) Let Helga on that day become a free server raid.
b) Let Helga live, and report to the next guild master that they were unable to kill it.
-If a guild wishes to be removed from the list, they must notify us on this thread as soon as possible.
-None of the guilds on the list, may claim Helga as theirs on a free day.

Additional Rules

1) Guilds who are attempting a Helga raid on a Freeday should do the raid with ONLY their guild. No invites from outside guilds or friends. If they can kill Helga without outside help, then they deserve a spot on the list.

2)Guilds/Groups signing up for a freeday should have the necessary manpower and must provide evidence before they are allowed to take up a freeday.

I have determined that they must need atleast:

2 fighters with 3.7kdef+, 1.7k mg def+, 8k hp +
2 Clerics with 3.2k def+, 1.8k mg def+, 6k hp +

and atleast 3-5 other lvl 8x.

From my experience, this is the very basic you need to be able to pull Helga and kill it. These stats assume that the characters have access to 70% charms and cashpots.

3) Guilds/Groups already on the list, should not be allowed to invite other guilds on the list to their raids.

4) Even though it is hard to control, Guilds/Groups should make sure their guild members do not enter Tomb of Helga during the raid of other guilds. And in the special case of Wednesdays, after maintence, guilds that are not suppose to raid that day should keep their members out of TOH til after Helga is killed. In case the guild raiding, gives up, a roar will be used to tell the server of a "Server Raid" to uphold fairness that one guild does not overtake Helga that day.

5) In the case the server is "resetted" because of a maintenance, and Helga had been already killed that day, the guild that goes after that day, decides if they would wish to do the raid that day, or wait till their next day(their appointed day) or, if they wish, they could do, a server raid. But the guild who already killed it again, cannot claim it again. It's not the day that belongs to the guild, its the "Helga", obviously we implement the schedule in regards to the 24 hour spawn time.

6) In the case of a server crash or Tuesdays guild does not get a spawn. The schedule will either:

a) Be pushed by 1 day, so the guild that did not get their spawn on their appointed day can have a Helga spawn that week.
b) Be given 2 Helgas the next week to compensate for the Helga they did not recieve on the week of the "No Helga Spawn."

7) Guilds skipping 1 raid a month to make room for free days. As you can see, BR will skip April, 20th, 2009 to make it a free day so other guilds who meet the requirement can have a shot at Helga. We will more than likely keep Saturday as a permanent free day (still have to confirm with LL leaders if they are dropping out for good) since most people prefer to have a weekend. This means, however, that every guild on the list (HVG, Milky, MA, IC, Coll) will and must give up atleast 1 of their raids so we can have 2 free days a week. We will of course cycle the skipping until we have atleast 14 guilds/groups that can kill Helga on their own before we start a 2 week schedule. !Important! Guilds and players that are already on the list are not allowed join in group raids. So, I can't join Emily's group raid because BR is already on the list. The rules on the front page still apply.

8) The 2 hour limit that will be put on each guild/group. This will ensure that guilds signing up will know the approximate time of the respawn, so they can plan ahead. And yes, I am aware that there is a contradiction on Monday and Tuesday, but most guilds will not take longer than 2 hours to kill Helga. And if they do, a server raid will be called to ensure that Helga is killed and the other guilds on the list will have sufficient amount of time as well. Some guilds may even kill him within an hour, which means respawn time will be earlier than what is expected. So therefore, it is important to keep up with this thread. The only exception to the rule, is the guilds that go on Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday will have as much time as needed until maintence occurs (assuming maintence does happen on Tuesday as usual) and Wednesday may take as much time as they need aslong as Helga is killed before 2pm Outspark Time.

Note: The 2 hour limit is only an estimate, aslong as Helga is killed before the expected respawn time on the next day, everything should work out fine. For Example:

Milky kills Helga at 3pm OS time (Expected respawn time for the next day is 6pm). This means that Mighty_Army, has 3 hours in total to kill Helga. MA must kill it before 6pm or else it will become a server raid.

I highly encourage that guilds kill Helga as soon as possible, as this will help out other guilds greatly.

9) If a guild on the list fails to kill Helga within the 2 hour time limit 2 times consecutively. They will be removed off of the list for the following week to allow other guilds to give it a try. They will then be put back on the week after that to try and prove themselves that they are still capable of killing Helga on their own once more.

10) If no guilds/groups sign up on a free day, the freeday will become a server raid.

11) A guild signing up for a Free Day on Wednesday or Tuesday, must be able to raid early in the afternoon Outspark Time. Please do not sign up for Wednesday or Thursday if your guild/group can not raid early.

12) If a guild runs past the 2 hour time limit, a server raid can only be called if Helga is not under the possession of the raiding guild. If Helga has not been pulled by the 2 hour time period, a Server raid can then be called.

Example: If BR runs past 2 hours, but they are in the process of attacking Helga. They have the right to continue to attack Helga until they die and Helga returns back to the waterfall. Then a server raid can be called.


These Rules are subject to change and any changes will be made in red.

Keep in mind that the calendar above is subject to change as things occur and more guilds get added in.

Please refrain from flaming or posting comments that can start a flame. If you have any criticism or comments please state it in a civil manner.

Post if you have any questions or concerns.

[jannij777]

i hope this will work better,+it looks better ...good luck today whith your ride




Ioann77 warrior lvl89 <--str build 1 capped fighter in teva
Ioann7 mage lvl89 <--int build
Ioann scout lvl85 <--end build
Outsider paladin lvl 81 <---end build

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Your bolding of the word Important failed ._.

[Selkice]

*claps* way to lay it down
there should be few questions regarding this

[zues8844]

VERY impressive...........

[Asmodejjj]

You would have gotten many +reps from me for the sheer amount of effort you've put into this...........congratulations :)

[Celtic_Princess]

*cough* Did you mean April and May?

Nicely done Meek :) the calendar looks great ^^

[green-day]

o.o lots of effort on it nice ...

[kristy_k]

Meek
I guess u mean April and May not March lol xD

[Hakai_Miko]

Just for the ones that were wondering~
Inner_Circle got an 1h and Staff in the last raid :3

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Here ya go Meeky and just quote me for the code :3

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[Zero2-21-92]

1) Guilds who are attempting a Helga raid on a Freeday should do the raid with ONLY their guild. No invites from outside guilds or friends. If they can kill Helga without outside help, then they deserve a spot on the list.
that's the completely the opposite of wats this game is about cause wats the point of having friends for helga if they can't help cause someone said u can't that's completely insane honestly i'm not trying to sound rude but it's just a werid rule to put

[fre_ak]

hmm i have a question

for example:
HVG kill helga at 2AM right after maintenance..so does that mean Milky have to kill him between 2AM-4AM? or the 2hour limit start at 2PM?

[WinterClown]

I'll keep my arguments out of this thread, as they apparently annoys some people, and started the discussion that made celtic close the other thread.

I'll be in the "RE:official helgas tomby thingy" thread xD

[IroguroMeek]

*cough* Did you mean April and May?

Nicely done Meek :) the calendar looks great ^^


Meek
I guess u mean April and May not March lol xD

Here ya go Meeky and just quote me for the code :3

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hahaha sorry, x__x been a long day haha. I guess I should add this moment to the Fail Thread lmao

that's the completely the opposite of wats this game is about cause wats the point of having friends for helga if they can't help cause someone said u can't that's completely insane honestly i'm not trying to sound rude but it's just a werid rule to put

We made that rule to try and prevent people from signing up with random guilds for other guilds. For example:

BR has 10 of their lvl 8x go and make a new guild, and sign up for a day. The drops that are gathered from both the new guild and BR guilds raid (2 raids in a week) go back to the main guild. We do not want this to happen, so instead, we prefer that guilds who want a spot each week has to be able to kill Helga on their own without outside help, before we squeeze them in because the list is getting extremely large. You can still sign up with groups of friends and try the raid, like how SG and VK are doing, just that we will consider you guys as 1 group, and not 2 guilds.

hmm i have a question

for example:
HVG kill helga at 2AM right after maintenance..so does that mean Milky have to kill him between 2AM-4AM? or the 2hour limit start at 2PM?

No, sorry I'll clarify that, but as long as Helga is killed before the expected respawn time, then everything should go fine. Of course, if every guild can kill Helga as soon as possible, it would help us greatly so we dont run out of time when Tuesday swings around. I assume that most guilds will not take up the entire 2 hours, but things may change because of the difficulty change in ToH. But we will change things as time goes on and new issues arise.

I'll keep my arguments out of this thread, as they apparently annoys some people, and started the discussion that made celtic close the other thread.

I'll be in the "RE:official helgas tomby thingy" thread xD

Thanks Winter, we greatly appreciate it.

Please re-read all the rules and the additions I have added. If there is anything that you are confused about please ask and if there are any concerns about a certain rule, please give me your input so we can better the schedule and its rules.

[BlackDragonEX]

How come guilds like B2R have 4 raids in your schedule,and MA has 5? lol.
and Good job meek :) - + Rep of i could -

[IroguroMeek]

How come guilds like B2R have 4 raids in your schedule,and MA has 5? lol.
and Good job meek :) - + Rep of i could -

Haha because the calender wasn't big enough for the rest of May. But the week after Milky gives up their day, MA will have to give up their day too. Giving up one day per month isn't alot to ask for and it could really help out the schedule.

[Sakura_The_Mage]

Haha because the calender wasn't big enough for the rest of May. But the week after Milky gives up their day, MA will have to give up their day too. Giving up one day per month isn't alot to ask for and it could really help out the schedule.
Good job Mekk. xD But I agree. Giving up ONE day can't hurt, right? As long as everyone kills Helga at the expected time, I think we should be fine. But I don't think BR can raid today due to a mess up in a raid the night before. ._.

[legendking3]

idk if it was brought up in the old topic or not, but what about those people who join a guild to help them with their raid and quit right afterwards?

[krazyboi]

dang, nice job meek.
u should get paid for this XD

[IroguroMeek]

idk if it was brought up in the old topic or not, but what about those people who join a guild to help them with their raid and quit right afterwards?

That would be considered outside help. I could understand if the person joins your guild and stays, but someone who joins just to help with the raid would be considered outside help. Unfortunately we are not able to always pick out the outside helpers, and when it comes down to it, this schedule is all about honor and respect for one another. Those with good morals will abide by their word and agreement, and those that do not, well that is their choice.

dang, nice job meek.
u should get paid for this XD

lol What I try to do isn't even enough to be considered a job. This is all volunteer work to help out Teva, and I wouldn't have it any other way than it is now.

Good job Mekk. xD But I agree. Giving up ONE day can't hurt, right? As long as everyone kills Helga at the expected time, I think we should be fine. But I don't think BR can raid today due to a mess up in a raid the night before. ._.

We should be fine, if we do not raid late tonight, we will raid tomorrow in the afternoon or so, since there is no guild tomorrow. I hope that we don't run into time shortages again though.

[King_Obito]

Meek we can raid tonite, as long as other people don't ruin our time XD. 2am spawn time so most people will be sleeping anyways.

[pokemon4955]

Meek we can raid tonite, as long as other people don't ruin our time XD. 2am spawn time so most people will be sleeping anyways.

They wont now :eek: they saw ur post so they might be awake til u guys done :c

[King_Obito]

They wont now :eek: they saw ur post so they might be awake til u guys done :c

They dunno what timezone I'm in? :/

[jliciousness]

wow, how bout UltimateSupremacy+other interested guild's turn???
and how about minimizing each guild's helga raids to 2 a month? and just make more free days?....

[dryuuyuuyy]

wow, how bout UltimateSupremacy+other interested guild's turn???
and how about minimizing each guild's helga raids to 2 a month? and just make more free days?....

sounds good to me o: but 2 a month is kinda small though

[jliciousness]

sounds good to me o: but 2 a month is kinda small though

yea that's where the MORE free days comes in.....

[Sakura_The_Mage]

Meek we can raid tonite, as long as other people don't ruin our time XD. 2am spawn time so most people will be sleeping anyways.
Kelly. I think it might be better if we Raid tomorrow. D: Becuase like I don't know if I can be on. ._.

[King_Obito]

Kelly. I think it might be better if we Raid tomorrow. D: Becuase like I don't know if I can be on. ._.

We can raid with 5 people. xD We are fine considering all weps go to me anyways :X...

[Selkice]

>.>
im done with helga raids... im dropping the merc thread...
dont invite me to your guilds, dont talk to me about helga.
im sick of it, its brought nothing but anger and depression since this started.
im washing my hands of this for good...
<.<

[IroguroMeek]

wow, how bout UltimateSupremacy+other interested guild's turn???
and how about minimizing each guild's helga raids to 2 a month? and just make more free days?....

Pick a date you would like, send me the information that we require and then I will try and finalize a date for US. Same thing goes with other guilds/groups. Remember to refer to our rules on the front page. Signing up for this schedule means that you and your guild will abide by the rules.

We can raid with 5 people. xD We are fine considering all weps go to me anyways :X...

That's a lie! We are gonna have a good old beat down for those weps D=<

>.>
im done with helga raids... im dropping the merc thread...
dont invite me to your guilds, dont talk to me about helga.
im sick of it, its brought nothing but anger and depression since this started.
im washing my hands of this for good...
<.<

Idk what happened emily, but I'm extremely sorry for all the drama and issues that you have had to dealth with because of this. I hope that everything turns out better for you.

[Sakura_The_Mage]

We can raid with 5 people. xD We are fine considering all weps go to me anyways :X...
._. But I wanna be there Kelly. D:

[mkdimmortal]

Why should UltimateNubpremecy get a turn for the stunt they pulled?

[Sakura_The_Mage]

WHOOPS LOL. I just double posted. /Clears

[King_Obito]

Why should UltimateNubpremecy get a turn for the stunt they pulled?

I agree with this.

[HeroicAce]

great job on the new thread meek.

[thedark17]

I agree with this.

What'd they do Q.Q? I'd ask bren but he hates me ~.~

And, if Valiant_Knights/SavageGarden succesfully kill helga, would we gain more time slots, or will it still be LL,BIIR,MA,Collision Etc? (having the main spots)

[King_Obito]

What'd they do Q.Q? I'd ask bren but he hates me ~.~

And, if Valiant_Knights/SavageGarden succesfully kill helga, would we gain more time slots, or will it still be LL,BIIR,MA,Collision Etc? (having the main spots)

Haha well I can't really say any names, but they attempted to kill Helga on the day where 99% of us decided not to kill Helga to save the 3 upcoming raids. This resulted in them refusing to leave and making it known as a server raid, thus screwing us over and making me now stay up until 2 am to wait for Helga. :]

[mkdimmortal]

Its not even the fact that they tried to do that but then he comes in here pretending like he's an angel and wants a perm slot in the raiding its pretty funny.

[jliciousness]

I agree with this.

lmao what stunt did we pull?? xDD
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and dnt worry bout us meek we can take helga with the grouping guild option ;o

[mredlodge]

Why should UltimateNubpremecy get a turn for the stunt they pulled?

Its not even the fact that they tried to do that but then he comes in here pretending like he's an angel and wants a perm slot in the raiding its pretty funny.


If you've been following the other thread you know there were alot of people under the impression that without a large guild, they would never get a chance at Helga. If I felt this way, I would resist this whole system myself and probably would have been disrupting it in protest too.

If he's willing to put a legit group together and abide by the agreement, then maybe he deserves a spot. We've run into other ppl not being familiar with all the rules of this agreement and we got past it before. This schedule and it's rules are still pretty new and changing all the time. Aside from the large guilds and the new groups like Savage Garden/VK, I really don't think there will be more than about 3 or 4 more groups to add to this list. Almost everyone capable of killing Helga is somewhat aware of this schedule and I think we are almost through the process of informing everyone to be familiar with these rules.

In the long run, the more ppl happy with it and familiar with this schedule and the rules associated with it, the better it is for the entire server. Excluding him or anyone else this early into it for not knowing something(<---giving benefit of doubt) will just lead to more problems.

[jliciousness]

exactly xDD

damn bro can u be my lawyer? at this matter xDDDD

[Premiumitem]

Its not even the fact that they tried to do that but then he comes in here pretending like he's an angel and wants a perm slot in the raiding its pretty funny.

i agree with you Bren :)
LOL! their crews also pretending like a group of angels and wants a perm slot :P

never gonna trust them anymore after all their junks ss made OS banned my best buddy Falc

[mkdimmortal]

If you've been following the other thread you know there were alot of people under the impression that without a large guild, they would never get a chance at Helga. If I felt this way, I would resist this whole system myself and probably would have been disrupting it in protest too.

If he's willing to put a legit group together and abide by the agreement, then maybe he deserves a spot. We've run into other ppl not being familiar with all the rules of this agreement and we got past it before. This schedule and it's rules are still pretty new and changing all the time. Aside from the large guilds and the new groups like Savage Garden/VK, I really don't think there will be more than about 3 or 4 more groups to add to this list. Almost everyone capable of killing Helga is somewhat aware of this schedule and I think we are almost through the process of informing everyone to be familiar with these rules.

In the long run, the more ppl happy with it and familiar with this schedule and the rules associated with it, the better it is for the entire server. Excluding him or anyone else this early into it for not knowing something(<---giving benefit of doubt) will just lead to more problems.


Oh so making a guild JUST to PO everyone and not even TRY to say we want a raid tryout is the way to go? collision didn't exactly get a automatic spot either.

[King_Obito]

i agree with you Bren :)
LOL! their crews also pretending like a group of angels and wants a perm slot :P

never gonna trust them anymore after all their junks ss made OS banned my best buddy Falc

ROFL. I lol`d at your siggy. Too funny..

Anyways;; guys let's try to keep this less flaming. It will get closed if we keep the arguing up.

[jliciousness]

i agree with you Bren :)
LOL! their crews also pretending like a group of angels and wants a perm slot :P

never gonna trust them anymore after all their junks ss made OS banned my best buddy Falc

xDDD no life much???

damn i luuv my haters especially the thoughtful ones xDDDDDD

[IroguroMeek]

Alright guys, let's stop with the rude remarks and flaming.

I personally do not hold what happened against them because they were not part of the schedule and therefore were not breaking any of our rules. Remember, only guilds affiliated with this schedule must abide by the rules. And since they are now requesting for a day, they must now follow the rules that we have set up.

And also J, I know that you have members capable of doing this, but to be fair to the others, I still have to ask you to provide the information. And what do you mean by guild grouping? Is US not doing this raid on their own without outside help?

[jliciousness]

naah.... U.S. will do it along side those who want to raid...and we aint askin for 1day slot ;o we askin a regular based slot ^^

and yea i gots 5k+def 8500+hp full everything....
and idk the rest theyll be clearin the way for me as i pull helga and suicide pull the mobs around him then thats where RSU comes in or the nxt tanker ;o idk his stats but im pretty sure its more than mine since hes tanker built....

[jliciousness]

Haha well I can't really say any names, but they attempted to kill Helga on the day where 99% of us decided not to kill Helga to save the 3 upcoming raids. This resulted in them refusing to leave and making it known as a server raid, thus screwing us over and making me now stay up until 2 am to wait for Helga. :]

im pretty sure the "99%" of us ddnt decide it...MA and HVG+other guilds where in it and they were w8ng for the breakthrough...it was only me and fib and alex odhner from my guild who where there in the actual atempt..
+idk how it messed up the schedule since ppl can still kill helga the next rspwn...it prolly messed up your "REGULAR" raids thats y u felt that we screwed it up ^^

[King_Obito]

im pretty sure the "99%" of us ddnt decide it...MA and HVG+other guilds where in it and they were w8ng for the breakthrough...it was only me and fib and alex odhner from my guild who where there in the actual atempt..
+idk how it messed up the schedule since ppl can still kill helga the next rspwn...it prolly messed up your "REGULAR" raids thats y u felt that we screwed it up ^^

MA and HVG were only there after they were informed you were there screwing up. Just stop the innocent act Jli you're only fooling yourself. Drop the subject and keep to the current/upcoming raids.

[mkdimmortal]

Alright guys, let's stop with the rude remarks and flaming.

I personally do not hold what happened against them because they were not part of the schedule and therefore were not breaking any of our rules. Remember, only guilds affiliated with this schedule must abide by the rules. And since they are now requesting for a day, they must now follow the rules that we have set up.

And also J, I know that you have members capable of doing this, but to be fair to the others, I still have to ask you to provide the information. And what do you mean by guild grouping? Is US not doing this raid on their own without outside help?

Wasin't flaming anyone i was just pointing out a fact that DID happen and it should be discussed in a civil way no?

you want to talk about flaming "a certain person" tells someone they have no life because they agree with me now thats lol worthy.

[devin_nicolai]

-Gets the fire extinguisher-
Flameeee!

[jliciousness]

MA and HVG were only there after they were informed you were there screwing up. Just stop the innocent act Jli you're only fooling yourself. Drop the subject and keep to the current/upcoming raids.

lmao i wont drop it since i got nothin to drop...and no i aint foolin myself xD and how do u know im foolin myself?? lmao from a drama queen to a psychic xDDDD wow...im jst here to say my point, and u accuse me of screwin it up xDD lmao its funny since im not the only1 who wanted to raid even if u told us not to, and who are you to tell us not to??? the guild raidin that day ddnt wanan raid so its not our fault xDDD

..o.0 oh and im acting innocent??? bwhahaha since when xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD lmao
im like the only 1 speakin up since im keepin it real ;o hahahahahah

[jliciousness]

Wasin't flaming anyone i was just pointing out a fact that DID happen and it should be discussed in a civil way no?

you want to talk about flaming "a certain person" tells someone they have no life because they agree with me now thats lol worthy.

oh so did u do that siggy??? lmao great job if it was bro xDD lol way to show your apreciate-ive-ness towards me xDDDD

hahaha lmao i dnt see how this is flaming...looks like a normal debate to me xDDD (my point of view ;o)

[IroguroMeek]

Wasin't flaming anyone i was just pointing out a fact that DID happen and it should be discussed in a civil way no?

you want to talk about flaming "a certain person" tells someone they have no life because they agree with me now thats lol worthy.

Sorry, I did not mean to make it sound like I was pointing fingers at you. I meant it in general to everyone.

lmao i wont drop it since i got nothin to drop...and no i aint foolin myself xD and how do u know im foolin myself?? lmao from a drama queen to a psychic xDDDD wow...im jst here to say my point, and u accuse me of screwin it up xDD lmao its funny since im not the only1 who wanted to raid even if u told us not to, and who are you to tell us not to??? the guild raidin that day ddnt wanan raid so its not our fault xDDD

..o.0 oh and im acting innocent??? bwhahaha since when xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD lmao
im like the only 1 speakin up since im keepin it real ;o hahahahahah

Let's just all forget what happened that day, like I said, they were not part of the schedule and so they did not have to abide by the rules. But however, since we will be giving you guys a day, can I please ask of you to stop posting comments that could start flame in this thread. If you would like to know what you are being accused on, feel free to send me a PM and I will clarify the situation for you. But please refrain from any further comments, this pertains to everyone, that will start arguments in this thread. Remember guys, guilds that have been given a day or will be on the list must abide by the rules we have set up in order to be fair to the other guilds.

[devin_nicolai]

Jlicious you should stop double posting, thats like twice. Just click that button that says EDIT.

[mredlodge]

lmao i wont drop it since i got nothin to drop...and no i aint foolin myself xD and how do u know im foolin myself?? lmao from a drama queen to a psychic xDDDD wow...im jst here to say my point, and u accuse me of screwin it up xDD lmao its funny since im not the only1 who wanted to raid even if u told us not to, and who are you to tell us not to??? the guild raidin that day ddnt wanan raid so its not our fault xDDD

..o.0 oh and im acting innocent??? bwhahaha since when xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD lmao
im like the only 1 speakin up since im keepin it real ;o hahahahahah

Part of getting on the schedule is learning how a raid on Friday affects the raid on Tuesday. Become familiar with this thread and the rules we have learned through trial and error. Check the thread often and read the posts from the point you left off last time.

Server downtime messed up the entire weeks raid schedule...luckily, Loveless coincidentally wasn't going to be able to do thier raid so it was announced on this thread that nobody would kill Helga that day and the rest of the schedule could carry on like there was no server downtime. If loveless did carry out with thier raid, Collision was going to suffer by missing thier spot...like they are now since we ended up calling server raid.

[jliciousness]

ok^^ lmao as long as i dnt see anything worth commenting like the previous posts ;o

_______
w8 i double posted o.0????
where??

[mkdimmortal]

oh so did u do that siggy??? lmao great job if it was bro xDD lol way to show your apreciate-ive-ness towards me xDDDD

hahaha lmao i dnt see how this is flaming...looks like a normal debate to me xDDD (my point of view ;o)

Excuse you? first of all i didnt make the sig.Second of all the person who did , didn't even finish the background let alone the sig and finally you WISH i had any respect for you whatsoever its my own quote so tough nuggets to you.

/end rant to not get thread closed.

[IroguroMeek]

BR killed Helga tonight at 12:10am Outspark Time.

My personal Feedback: We only used our usual 5-man party because it was late at night and most of the guildies were asleep. Successfully pulled and killed Helga in 1 run. However, we did not feel as if there were more kallops nor were they harder in any way to kill. Helga was just as difficult as it has always been. But we did realize that the kallops were respawning alot faster than they had been before, maybe that was the issue that most guilds are experiencing.

Anyways, remember there will be no Helga spawn tomorrow (or today, w/e u want to call it). Helga will respawn after Tuesday night's maintence.

We obtained a bow and a staff from Helga. That is honestly like our 10th bow that we've gotten, so tired of seeing bows =/

[boomdude111]

Congrats to BR for killing Helga again. And about your bow problem, eventually you could just make an army out of bows o.o just all of you go make archers and get them to lvl 91 xD lol

Good job on the new schedule, but are the times messed up some or my eyes fooling me cause i need sleep? D:

[delfy]

wont work..

[Johawna]

-sigh- i guess i shouldn't even start with my opinions here :'D

[green-day]

Woot Midori ,New siggy O: !!!!

[pokemon4955]

roflmao meek xD tired of bows?give them to mr paws ;c lmao

[Johawna]

Woot Midori ,New siggy O: !!!!


yee ;D and you love eeeet ;D Jks~<3 :33

[Iffrit]

BR killed Helga tonight at 12:10am Outspark Time.

My personal Feedback: We only used our usual 5-man party because it was late at night and most of the guildies were asleep. Successfully pulled and killed Helga in 1 run. However, we did not feel as if there were more kallops nor were they harder in any way to kill. Helga was just as difficult as it has always been. But we did realize that the kallops were respawning alot faster than they had been before, maybe that was the issue that most guilds are experiencing.

Anyways, remember there will be no Helga spawn tomorrow (or today, w/e u want to call it). Helga will respawn after Tuesday night's maintence.

We obtained a bow and a staff from Helga. That is honestly like our 10th bow that we've gotten, so tired of seeing bows =/

Gratz to BIIR and thats another awesomeness lol, killed Helga with only 5 peoples.
Btw...
I dont mind getting all the 10 bows lmfao :D jks :p
notes : is that really 10th bow? o.O

[WinterClown]

Off-topic: Lol one post from me in the other thread, and it's already closed >.>'
What am i doing wrong? -.-'

On-topic: GL to V_K+the few SG members that can be there. :)

[Sakura_The_Mage]

-sigh- i guess i shouldn't even start with my opinions here :'D
Midori. D: For all we know your comments are good. >: Maybe. D: But yesh. Kelly/Meek I hope there's a Nanshi5Written on there. ;D

[Myrielle]

Haha well I can't really say any names, but they attempted to kill Helga on the day where 99% of us decided not to kill Helga to save the 3 upcoming raids. This resulted in them refusing to leave and making it known as a server raid, thus screwing us over and making me now stay up until 2 am to wait for Helga. :]


oh. bohoo :s
atleast u have some other spots coming up for yer guild ;D 99% decided not to kill and 1% got no 9586795486548 other spots to kill it.
and im eating now >>' you should too ;D makes ppl happy

[Celtic_Princess]

Winter,

I assure you that the other threads were not closed due to your actions, please do not think that. I'd be more than happy to PM you and explain why they were closed if you would like to know why I made that decision.

Meek,

Congratulations on defeating Helga again...I'm sure Clov wouldn't mind getting his hands on any one of those bows :P

[Johawna]

Midori. D: For all we know your comments are good. >: Maybe. D: But yesh. Kelly/Meek I hope there's a Nanshi5Written on there. ;D

rofl, you should've seen the last thread XD fun~

[KiSsGod]

I have a question. Are we going to have a thread confirming if a guild did or didnt defeat helga on their date? Because that was really helpful o.o .

[artboi]

I have a question. Are we going to have a thread confirming if a guild did or didnt defeat helga on their date? Because that was really helpful o.o .

That information will be posted in this thread right after helga is defeated by w.e guild.

[KiSsGod]

That information will be posted in this thread right after helga is defeated by w.e guild.

I liked it better on the first post of the thread so i didnt have to look through the whole thread to find out if a guild killed it or not D:.

[King_Obito]

I liked it better on the first post of the thread so i didnt have to look through the whole thread to find out if a guild killed it or not D:.

-Ignoring all ignorant comments by wow ignorant people :3-

Anyways Kiss I'll try to ask Meek to do something about putting it on the first page ^^.

[Nipah]

-Ignoring all ignorant comments by shamwow ignorant people :3-

huhuhu..

anyways, gj BR on the bow.. they're so hard to get
/endsarcasm

[King_Obito]

huhuhu..

anyways, gj BR on the bow.. they're so hard to get
/endsarcasm

I know right.. I wish I could've gotten some myself.

[Nipah]

I know right.. I wish I could've gotten some myself.

you would've been isya legend... and you coulda shouted "I have bow" :d


anyways, on-topic. nice calendar. :D its way ebtter then the bday present i masde you lmao

[King_Obito]

you would've been isya legend... and you coulda shouted "I have bow" :d


anyways, on-topic. nice calendar. :D its way ebtter then the bday present i masde you lmao

Yeah I bet the bows would sell for like 30g at most. So godly.

[/ontopic]
Yeah nice Calendar but how do we know all those times are correct ;O!

[Nipah]

he hasfaith the ppl will kill them ontime i think ;/?

[fooinqian]

1 question ^^ wats are the requirements for the raid? juz wondering XD

[King_Obito]

1 question ^^ wats are the requirements for the raid? juz wondering XD

Well I believe all you need is a guild master or admins to request you guys to join, and then we can fit you into the calendar ^^.

Also you need a minimum of 2k mdef and 3k def I think >.<. (that's basically so you won't get 1 hit by Helga when he does his biggest AoE.)

[jliciousness]

Excuse you? first of all i didnt make the sig.Second of all the person who did , didn't even finish the background let alone the sig and finally you WISH i had any respect for you whatsoever its my own quote so tough nuggets to you.

/end rant to not get thread closed.

bwhahahah ppl jst dnt get sarcasm these dayz lmao xDDD
_________

anywayz o.0 how bout lessening each guilds helga raid to a 2/month and jst make more free dayz???

[HeroicAce]

Well I believe all you need is a guild master or admins to request you guys to join, and then we can fit you into the calendar ^^.

Also you need a minimum of 2k mdef and 3k def I think >.<. (that's basically so you won't get 1 hit by Helga when he does his biggest AoE.)

he could also get a group together to join if his guild wasnt large enough, but yeah he would still need to provide tank and cleric stats. thats just so meek and neon know that the group actually has a shot at killing him and not just wasting a spawn for people that have 0% chances. try reading the first page of this thread. meek should have it all layed out by now. if not then pm him and im sure he can explain it all to you.

[redjumpsuitapparatus]

where is loveless lol

[dryuuyuuyy]

Haha well I can't really say any names, but they attempted to kill Helga on the day where 99% of us decided not to kill Helga to save the 3 upcoming raids. This resulted in them refusing to leave and making it known as a server raid, thus screwing us over and making me now stay up until 2 am to wait for Helga. :]

yea they are so bad for trying to kill helga because "99% of us" decided not to kill helga *sarcasm*.

If they felt they could kill helga, then they have every right to, especiallly if "99%" of "us" werent going to kill it.

[King_Obito]

yea they are so bad for trying to kill helga because "99% of us" decided not to kill helga *sarcasm*.

If they felt they could kill helga, then they have every right to, especiallly if "99%" of "us" werent going to kill it.
Wow you are just so smart. I wish everyone could learn from you.
[/sarcasm]

[dryuuyuuyy]

i know right ;) lmao

[Celtic_Princess]

I'mma drop in before this turns into flames again and remind everyone to keep it civil.

Thanks,

Celtic

[IroguroMeek]

1 question ^^ wats are the requirements for the raid? juz wondering XD

It is on the front page, it really isn't a difficult requirement to meet. Most people can usually just grab random people from Uruga and they would probably meet those requirements.

And guys, lets keep the flame down. If you have an issue with this or have any negative comments, feel free to PM me and we can sort things out.

I will also be writing down the times of when Helga is killed each day and posting them in the front page so guilds can have easy access to that information. There is no Helga spawn today, so I will start writing down the times tomorrow when HVG kills it.

[KiSsGod]

-Ignoring all ignorant comments by wow ignorant people :3-

Anyways Kiss I'll try to ask Meek to do something about putting it on the first page ^^.

Thank you home slice :3.

[best26]

UltimateSupremacy
we would like to raid and yes our tanks do reach requirments RSU and PatronOfWarriors

[IroguroMeek]

UltimateSupremacy
we would like to raid and yes our tanks do reach requirments RSU and PatronOfWarriors

Please PM me your clerics and the day you would like to raid.

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

RSU tanks whaaa ... O_O? jk lmao. is it possible to get a day closer to the weeknd. i have barely anytime during the week with end of year school work etc.

[mage250]

(>*o*)>---- *pokes everyone with magic stick* mind telling me what happened to the other thread pls D: (can't be bothered looking at all the pages if it was already said o.o)

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

got closed for flames i believe

[mage250]

got closed for flames i believe

O::: ok thanks man :D

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

haha no problem ;o

[leobaloy]

RSU tanks whaaa ... O_O? jk lmao. is it possible to get a day closer to the weeknd. i have barely anytime during the week with end of year school work etc.

O.o I don't have that problem, all i need to do is review for our state exams lmao ;/

aka lots of free time o.o

and back to on topic >.>;

if you guys are going to criticize, make sure its constructive :3
ty ;D

constructive criticism ftw~

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

just realized ur sig, i have that song on my psp xD... off topic =x

do we have to like try out or somthing

[jliciousness]

UltimateSupremacy
we would like to raid and yes our tanks do reach requirments RSU and PatronOfWarriors

its SupremeOrder now xDD UtimateSupremacy is a defective guild due 2 mispelt ULTIMATE xDD and the whole thing wont fit x.x...

so yea...

_Supreme†Order_+other interested guilds whos not on the current list...
ill tell u the clerics etc..sometime soon xDD
;o we'll take weekends if possible^^

and what about the more free day and limited 2raids/guild each month suggestion???

[leobaloy]

just realized ur sig, i have that song on my psp xD... off topic =x

do we have to like try out or somthing

lmao o.o

[charmle]

Pick a date you would like, send me the information that we require and then I will try and finalize a date for US. Same thing goes with other guilds/groups. Remember to refer to our rules on the front page. Signing up for this schedule means that you and your guild will abide by the rules.



That's a lie! We are gonna have a good old beat down for those weps D=<



Idk what happened emily, but I'm extremely sorry for all the drama and issues that you have had to dealth with because of this. I hope that everything turns out better for you.

who has the right to say who and what guild can and can't go to kill Helga....is it OS???

[jliciousness]

hold up i think ima make a guild called SupremeSociety...SupremeOrder sounds like your taking an order in pizza hut o.o...

so yea...put up SupremeSociety+OTHERS when u make a sched. for us thx xP

[King_Obito]

who has the right to say who and what guild can and can't go to kill Helga....is it OS???

The issue has been discussed about 10 times at minimum and a CL has even responded to it, please check back in the previous threads for your answer.

edit; that sounded really mean the way I worded it x_x; sorry.

[IroguroMeek]

RSU tanks whaaa ... O_O? jk lmao. is it possible to get a day closer to the weeknd. i have barely anytime during the week with end of year school work etc.

Check the calendar at the front page. And I just have been notified by LL that they will be participating again next week for Helga raids once more.

its SupremeOrder now xDD UtimateSupremacy is a defective guild due 2 mispelt ULTIMATE xDD and the whole thing wont fit x.x...

so yea...

_Supreme†Order_+other interested guilds whos not on the current list...
ill tell u the clerics etc..sometime soon xDD
;o we'll take weekends if possible^^

and what about the more free day and limited 2raids/guild each month suggestion???

We will add more free days as more guilds sign up, as for now the free days we have set up should be able to accomodate a few more guilds that want to participate. I also wanted to remind you to refer to the rules in the front page, and make sure the guilds/people participating in your raid understand them as well.

who has the right to say who and what guild can and can't go to kill Helga....is it OS???

x__x oh gosh not this again, haha

[allyyCORE]

who has the right to say who and what guild can and can't go to kill Helga....is it OS???

I'm just gonna lul at this one.

Anyway, congratulations to BIIR for ridding Helga once again.

And the next player of the month should go to Meek for his infinite patience.

Gosh... TEACH MEEEE hahahahaha.

[krazykris_2000]

I just have been notified by LL that they will be participating again next week for Helga raids once more.


So does that mean the calendar changes or...? (sorry just a little confused o.o)

[zoey199]

*pokes meek* hey what days you got open next week? >>

[Rzpect]

Yeah I bet the bows would sell for like 30g at most. So godly.

[/ontopic]
Yeah nice Calendar but how do we know all those times are correct ;O!

DID you know.....my bday is coming up its [o9/26]
I would be happy to take a hellgait bow for a bday present :3 lmao
jk

bj for it? (:

[fre_ak]

bump?? lol

did HVG killed helga yet? o.o

[Marck]

bump?? lol

did HVG killed helga yet? o.o

not still not killed like all server know this isn't time of hvg! hvg is eu people... than timer we go for it is at 1-2pm OS time usually

[fooinqian]

yeah sry i have another question to ask. ^^
must we kill helga right aftr he respawn or do we kill on own our time of dat day?

[Nipah]

i thought people were supposed to kill it at a certain time so it doesn't mess up the spawn for the next guild, but eh what do i kno :D

[fre_ak]

not still not killed like all server know this isn't time of hvg! hvg is eu people... than timer we go for it is at 1-2pm OS time usually
well as u can see Milky is next, i just wanted to know if HVG kill him yet..so we can re-organize our guild and maybe kill helga ealier tomorrow to make every1 happy.

[Marck]

well as u can see Milky is next, i just wanted to know if HVG kill him yet..so we can re-organize our guild and maybe kill helga ealier tomorrow to make every1 happy.

ok when we kill i write here

[King_Obito]

yeah sry i have another question to ask. ^^
must we kill helga right aftr he respawn or do we kill on own our time of dat day?

You don't have to kill it right when he spawns but we hope you can kill it in atleast 3 hrs. :x

[Asmodejjj]

How long does it usually take to kill him, with a guild? And then with 5 people?

[King_Obito]

How long does it usually take to kill him, with a guild? And then with 5 people?

It only takes us 35 mins at most with my group of 5 people. Some guilds take up to 5 hrs. XD

[fre_ak]

How long does it usually take to kill him, with a guild? And then with 5 people?
cant really tell....

guild = more ppl = more chance to make mistakes ---> every1 die
of course if everything go well...a charmed guild should kill him after

and with 5 ppl..it probably require more SC

[IroguroMeek]

I'm just gonna lul at this one.

Anyway, congratulations to BIIR for ridding Helga once again.

And the next player of the month should go to Meek for his infinite patience.

Gosh... TEACH MEEEE hahahahaha.

Haha I'll pass on that Ally, and teach you how to have infinite patience?

2 words: Stress Ball


So does that mean the calendar changes or...? (sorry just a little confused o.o)


Yeah, more than likely. But as for this week, Collision is okay to raid for saturday. I have to confirm with LL if they are willing to take free days or if they want their saturday back. I will keep you guys updated.

*pokes meek* hey what days you got open next week? >>

So far next week, we have Monday and maybe Saturday. Loveless has stated they will be participating again but have not confirmed which day they want. Check the calendar in the front page for more information on open days.

How long does it usually take to kill him, with a guild? And then with 5 people?

It really depends on the guild and how well they work together. The 5 of us did not actually start the raid til 2:54am last night and we ended up killing Helga at 3:10am. So I guess 15minutes for us? Things go wrong sometimes so it fluctuates from guild to guild.

cant really tell....

guild = more ppl = more chance to make mistakes ---> every1 die
of course if everything go well...a charmed guild should kill him after

and with 5 ppl..it probably require more SC

I'm not quite sure how much other guilds spend on spark cash. But I know that the 5 of us are 70% charmed and after pulling and killing Helga. I usually spend 1-2 200k cashpots.

Also, please refer to the front page. I have added a weekly schedule of death times and other sorts of goodies so guilds and players can have easy access to the information. I have also added a new rule, #12, to the list. Please refer to it. Goodluck on todays raid HVG.

[fooinqian]

arh okie. mayb our guild have the stated requirements for the raid. i will inform u meek when i discuss with my guild members. thkx alot. much appreciated ^^

[Marck]

ok HVG killed helga at 12.30pm OS time, helga axe and shield dropped

[King_Obito]

Congrats. :3

[fooinqian]

grats ^^ i missed ur raid :p

[hostess619]

good job on the new calendar this was a good idea

[Xx_OP_Sanji_xX]

ok HVG killed helga at 12.30pm OS time, helga axe and shield dropped

Can u put ss Marck x.x or at least stats :D

[artboi]

why did the time changed for us? O_O
we used to kill it at around 6pm OS time

[Iffrit]

Same ><
So I must wake up earlier for the raid T_T
Wish us luck :3

[pokemon4955]

Ull be fine clover,your a 4-leaf clover arent u ?=X

[jliciousness]

so meek, small guilds gettin together for helga raid on free days???
watd u and cloud talk about??...

[purpleronnie]

this schedule wasnt for just guild rite?..how about a fixed group of ppl?
i mean like if i have a fixed group of ppl to raid, can we book the slot too?

[jliciousness]

this schedule wasnt for just guild rite?..how about a fixed group of ppl?
i mean like if i have a fixed group of ppl to raid, can we book the slot too?

ppl can do that if they add more free dayz ;o
and lessen individual guild's raidin/month...

[HeroicAce]

this schedule wasnt for just guild rite?..how about a fixed group of ppl?
i mean like if i have a fixed group of ppl to raid, can we book the slot too?

yes. you can get a group and get a slot. not sure where exactly but i know meek mentioned it at least once or twice on this thread or the other one.

[purpleronnie]

hm...i was looking at those free slot
if its possible to group together capable single player from smaller guild and make a raid group with fixed ppl..let say named it like BunchOfCrazyPeople..
will it be like if we book the free slot, that group name will be put there?

so it will be just that group of ppl will be raiding..not a random server raid

and another question,

do the group need to establish their group member name so it wont be collision with member from the listed guild *refering to new regulation whereby no member from listed guild is allowed to join group raid*

[HeroicAce]

hm...i was looking at those free slot
if its possible to group together capable single player from smaller guild and make a raid group with fixed ppl..let say named it like BunchOfCrazyPeople..
will it be like if we book the free slot, that group name will be put there?

so it will be just that group of ppl will be raiding..not a random server raid

yes. if you as a group want the slot then it will be only your group and not the server even though you are not a guild. the free days basically mean that they are open days with no plan for them yet, if you sign up and find a good open day for your group then its yours.

[BlackDragonEX]

Can u put ss Marck x.x or at least stats :D

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/screenshot320.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/screenshot321.jpg


-10 char-

[KiSsGod]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/screenshot320.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/screenshot321.jpg


-10 char-


if only that axe was a wand lol. D:

[neonlovesyou]

O.O~! Nice thread meek D: ._. I wish I could help

[zoey199]

Kay ima talk to Cayne i'll see if monday works x-x
problem is all the days are booked but 1 and he doesn't get his work schedule till like start of each week >> *annoyed sigh*
Sorta like having 1/7th of a chance ea week xD
well back to lvling iVibrate >.> i plan to make fighters laugh and then kill them while their distracted *evil giggle* O;<

[Iffrit]

Milky are gonna do raid like we planned, maybe around 1PM OS Time.
Btw Meek, these 3 peoples asked to join just for experience, they only want to know how we works to beat Helga. I hope u dont mind with this, since they hardly get chance in any raid.
They are 3 members from Ultras.
Wish us luck for raid :p

[Andromeda]

Milky are gonna do raid like we planned, maybe around 1PM OS Time.
Btw Meek, these 3 peoples asked to join just for experience, they only want to know how we works to beat Helga. I hope u dont mind with this, since they hardly get chance in any raid.
They are 3 members from Ultras.
Wish us luck for raid :p

You can be sure Jerry will be there again filming his own death (Again). I think he died more times in the Milky Raid than the Collision raid

[i_like_rice]

we should all just ks each other and war muahahaha!

[mage250]

we should all just ks each other and war muahahaha!

nice joke (I hope Q__Q)

[mage250]

You can be sure Jerry will be there again filming his own death (Again). I think he died more times in the Milky Raid than the Collision raid

lol andro that was supposed to be a secret XD!

[pokemon4955]

Well i dioed alot in milky T_T
Congratz Milky we killed helga 1pm outspark time.

[King_Obito]

Congrats Milky. Anyone know what drops they got? O;

[Iffrit]

Helga killed in around 15 minutes....
But [a guild, check it urself at the video soon] there...and u know waht they did...We didnt get any drops.
-ss soon-

[pokemon4955]

Give us some credit clov D: We killed it in 8mins lmao with NWO help. xD
http://video.xfire.com/a53fa-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/a53fa/)

[King_Obito]

Give us some credit clov D: We killed it in 8mins lmao with <removed> help. xD
http://video.xfire.com/a53fa-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/a53fa/)

What is <Removed>? o.o

[Iffrit]

Lol their help?
wow we beat Helga in 8 mins o.o

[Xx_OP_Sanji_xX]

What is <Removed>? o.o

<Removed> Guild

[King_Obito]

<Removed> Guild

Ohhh! Okay XD!

[pokemon4955]

): Kelly was asking me what is <removed> not you guys ;O!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xx_OP_Sanji_xX]

): Kelly was asking me what is <removed> not you guys ;O!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't matter .. its the same u kill helga and get no drop .. and not kill helga x.x

<~~ started talkin weird and bs-ing lol x.x

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Oh yea, take Cookies off the waiting list please :3.

[jannij777]

...it was all so perfect until...some people decided to destroy all.....


Ioann77 fighter lvl89
Ioann mage lvl lvl89
Ioann archer lvl85
Outsider cleric lvl82

[mredlodge]

There's nothing funny about this. A few members from another guild were in there killing kallaps and failing at attempts to pull Helga. After we pull Helga, they start attacking him.

Maybe it's hard to believe a few ppl could get final hit, but if you see they are using axe with weapon skin while our tankers were mostly using 1-hands.
We were all in parties set on sequential and nobody got any drops from Milky.

If this is a case of KS'ing like Joker posted on other thread, is this subject to punishment from OS staff? Can we verify if they did in fact get those drops? If this type of conduct is acceptable by staff, I will have to reconsider if I want to take part in any of these organized raids. I spent spark cash along with all the other ppl who actually pulled Helga. And what do we get for our efforts and money spent? 1 exp point? nothing if you are capped?

I hope it doesn't happen to all of you guys as well.

[jannij777]

..i just now they came in "full charmed "using axe waiting for the right time to get the kill

just look the video "sad" that some people want to destroy the good time of some player .if we all started do that,it would be very ugly

[Iffrit]

They are for sure dont care about other peoples.
I even waked up at 2AM, just to get ks-ed lol...
Like I did anything bad to them...

[IroguroMeek]

There's nothing funny about this. A few members from another guild were in there killing kallaps and failing at attempts to pull Helga. After we pull Helga, they start attacking him.

Maybe it's hard to believe a few ppl could get final hit, but if you see they are using axe with weapon skin while our tankers were mostly using 1-hands.
We were all in parties set on sequential and nobody got any drops from Milky.

If this is a case of KS'ing like Joker posted on other thread, is this subject to punishment from OS staff? Can we verify if they did in fact get those drops? If this type of conduct is acceptable by staff, I will have to reconsider if I want to take part in any of these organized raids. I spent spark cash along with all the other ppl who actually pulled Helga. And what do we get for our efforts and money spent? 1 exp point? nothing if you are capped?

I hope it doesn't happen to all of you guys as well.

Gah, sorry to hear that that happened to you guys Milky. And yes, I do believe that if you guys have screenshots and proof that they were indeed ks'n you it is reportable. You guys should indeed report whoever it was, and I know how frustrating it is for someone to take the kill when you did all the work.

[Iffrit]

Gah, sorry to hear that that happened to you guys Milky. And yes, I do believe that if you guys have screenshots and proof that they were indeed ks'n you it is reportable. You guys should indeed report whoever it was, and I know how frustrating it is for someone to take the kill when you did all the work.

Its more than a SS...
Its VIDEO :D

/sarcasm

[King_Obito]

Submit it then, if you guys feel like they have interrupted your game time and KS then report.

[mredlodge]

Gah, sorry to hear that that happened to you guys Milky. And yes, I do believe that if you guys have screenshots and proof that they were indeed ks'n you it is reportable. You guys should indeed report whoever it was, and I know how frustrating it is for someone to take the kill when you did all the work.

an 8 minute video showing everything

[Celtic_Princess]

Yes, if you pulled helga, and you got the first hits on Helga they were KSing you. Please send the video in, as well as any screenshots you guys might have.

As a Milky member, I hate to say this, but I'll have to remove the guilds name from the previous posts as its blacklisting.

[Iffrit]

Yes, if you pulled helga, and you got the first hits on Helga they were KSing you. Please send the video in, as well as any screenshots you guys might have.

As a Milky member, I hate to say this, but I'll have to remove the guilds name from the previous posts as its blacklisting.

Its ok Celtic, the videos showed their guild name clearly lol :p

[pokemon4955]

Lmao i was bad at the vid T_T keep dying and didnt get to record the helga death

[Kyo_Sama]

..i just now they came in "full charmed "using axe waiting for the right time to get the kill

just look the video "sad" that some people want to destroy the good time of some player .if we all started do that,it would be very ugly

And you think this guild monopolizing of a map isnt ugly ?

think about it your guilds all colluded to make a schedule that intentionally leaves out 99% of the guilds on Teva. good job.

also GM says this isnt allowed period

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showthread.php?t=50016

CL agrees, but you have no proof of KS.

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showpost.php?p=433264&postcount=12

Further edit, Nice i do believe all the insult being thrown around by your guild as well as the blatant threats in guild chat to war because you wanted to spot claim go really well together with why this will never work,

And on a side note you are all Ks'ing eachother, no one party could kill or lure it from Milky, guild or not its Kill Stealing at its very definition. Ergo you all should wave the blame fingers at eachother for bickering and talking to much and not killing.

[Iffrit]

And you think this guild monopolizing of a map isnt ugly ?

think about it your guilds all colluded to make a schedule that intentionally leaves out 99% of the guilds on Teva. good job.

also GM says this isnt allowed period

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showthread.php?t=50016

CL agrees, but you have no proof of KS.

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showpost.php?p=433264&postcount=12

The beggar talking ;)

[jliciousness]

anywayz...when will the small guilds/group have a slot for the raids???

[pokemon4955]

Okay this is why its "PRIVATE" raid.
WAY less drama,and accusing IF NO outsider are interefering Milky during private raid. Soooo why are they here then?D:

[zoey199]

Okies Shameless is good for Monday meek / neon ^^
if it hasn't already been filled suddenly that is o.o;
<---small guild....getting raid...or *imagines meek laying mangled* >:3 lols

[Celtic_Princess]

And you think this guild monopolizing of a map isnt ugly ?

think about it your guilds all colluded to make a schedule that intentionally leaves out 99% of the guilds on Teva. good job.

also GM says this isnt allowed period

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showthread.php?t=50016

CL agrees, but you have no proof of KS.

http://www.outspark.com//forums/showpost.php?p=433264&postcount=12

Further edit, Nice i do believe all the insult being thrown around by your guild as well as the blatant threats in guild chat to war because you wanted to spot claim go really well together with why this will never work,

And on a side note you are all Ks'ing eachother, no one party could kill or lure it from Milky, guild or not its Kill Stealing at its very definition. Ergo you all should wave the blame fingers at eachother for bickering and talking to much and not killing.

True. Spot claiming is not allowed...then again neither is KSing.

Spot claiming would mean that you are not allowed on the map at all, that they are 'forcing' you to leave. No one forced these guild members to leave, in fact they are welcome to any other mob on the map.

Kill Stealing would mean that the group in question took the kill on a mob that didnt' belong to them. Meaning that they did not have the mob to begin with. If Milky pulled the mob, and Milky started killing the mob, this other group should have backed off and stuck to farming kallaps like they were in there to do orginially.

In addition, if the group that originally got Helga from Milky wishes for other groups to help kill they can ask them. As such they wouldn't be KSing each other as permission was given.

[Kyo_Sama]

And again who gives small guilds permission, slight flaw its the bigger guilds. ergo monopoly and spot claiming. The system is flawed whats even worse is that you a CL fails to see and admit that both were in the wrong and blatantly are using guild bias to have action taken against only one guild not both.

Talk about abuse in power much ?

[zoey199]

Btw just a rule of thumb.
>.> Should you be doing a raid and some big guild busts in and attacks and takes the drops...would you not call it ks'ing?
Sooooo whats the difference here?
As far as i know and have read You ruin someone elses game experience and your banned lol...
Sadly its not always applied but can you understand Milky guildies are upset at having some ppl take advantage of their money and hard work?
Video shows (censored guild) and several of their members showing up in HT and attacking, admittably the video doesn't show them getting ks'd or the guild in question taking them however if your going by eye witnesses....You have plenty of proof should it be tried in a american court lmao...

[pokemon4955]

Ahem,

I don't visit these parts of the forums on a regular basis but I do when a CL flags staff or when we become aware of violations.

Please be aware that Outspark Customer Support will action entire guilds if we find they are abusing the rules of the game. We have already issued warnings on Epith about the Helga raid issues, we will be ready to do the same on Teva if this becomes a problem.

Let is be known that we are also going to monitor live some of these raids. Any guilds trying to take advantage of a situation to ruin the experience of others will be severely penalized by a suspension to all members and the deletion of the guild.

This game is for everyone's enjoyment. If anyone is going to abuse the rules and inflict harm on other player's fun and enjoyment then they will suffer the ultimate consequences.

Thank you.

thought i should put this on to wipe out any confusion o.o

[zoey199]

Yay mr berry to teh rescue lol
I am sad to admit.....
I don't know how to quote T^T lol

[Kyo_Sama]

thought i should put this on to wipe out any confusion o.o

glad you pointed that out cause from NWO standpoint Milky Ks'd as we were in there as stated by your own members attempting a raid before you even set foot inside.

And since there is to be no spot claiming the real issue becomes who did the ks'ing which since Milky interfered with their raid its pretty obvious who did what.

Big abusing small, and with the assistance of CL's who have a vested interested because they belong to the guild i bet we all know how one sided this is going to turn out.

[Celtic_Princess]

And again who gives small guilds permission, slight flaw its the bigger guilds. ergo monopoly and spot claiming. The system is flawed whats even worse is that you a CL fails to see and admit that both were in the wrong and blatantly are using guild bias to have action taken against only one guild not both.

Talk about abuse in power much ?

Please do not misconstrue my words or read in them something that is not there.

Any and all guilds are allowed on the map, however as with any mob in Isya it would be expected that if one group phsycially attacked a mob other groups would refrain from attacking or "KSing" said mob without permission from those who 'have' the mob to begin with.

Whomever had the first hit on Helga would have the mob.

[zoey199]

Interesting thought Kyo but who pulled helga? pretty sure whoever pulls helga is the one who has him lol...

[pokemon4955]

Yay mr berry to teh rescue lol
I am sad to admit.....
I don't know how to quote T^T lol

Yay i got a new nickname :D and uh u you click the "quote" on the person's post on bottom right ;P and just copy the whole quote thingy and paste it lul xD

[Xx_OP_Sanji_xX]

thought i should put this on to wipe out any confusion o.o

I think that is more than enough Jerry.

[Kyo_Sama]

Okay this is why its "PRIVATE" raid.
WAY less drama,and accusing IF NO outsider are interefering Milky during private raid. Soooo why are they here then?D:
Mhmm private raid = spot claiming

we were there ahead of Milky, so whose interfering Jerry....

[King_Obito]

Save the drama for the PMs. We don't need bickering here. (Trust me.. we already have enough)

[Kyo_Sama]

Interesting thought Kyo but who pulled helga? pretty sure whoever pulls helga is the one who has him lol...

Thats what every Large Guild would like but they also want to spot claim the area for helga spawns. yet again if everyone in a map has the same right to a mob then who has the right to helga, just because you pull it does it make it yours ?

Ontop of that if you barged in on someone elses raid and pulled who's to say they wouldnt have eventually made the pull without outside help from the group that came in.

[pokemon4955]

Mhmm private raid = spot claiming

we were there ahead of Milky, so whose interfering Jerry....

lulx i know that from your perspective it looks like milky was "interfering"BUT we are just follows whats the Calendar says,it clearly said that today was Milky day x.x.
p.s damn my english suck XD

[zoey199]

mind i ask what the problem going through the set up system, which was made to prevent junk like this happening in the first place, is?
Idk celest i just don't think that ppl messing this up is the best solution.
Apoline or somewhere has it where 1 guild controls helga completely and they use his aoe's to kill off kser's...would be lame if the system completely breaks and teva turns to that...
Idk im all for the sharing of helgaits i'd love to be able to get one so thats why i followed their system and i've had multiple chances i've had to pass up cause cayne can't fit it in schedule, but by breaking it we are looking at potentially no helgaits being aquired, Gw's over every single raid, ppl ks'ing and noone having a fair chance..
*sighes* idk just keep this together long enough for me to get me and my wifeys helgaits alright? *winks* lol

[Stargazer01]

i wake up early rdy for raid....and they said got ksed.... -.-

[Celtic_Princess]

To keep this from turning into flames between posters I suggest that any and all conversation regarding the subject from this point on be kept to PM.

I suggest that anyone involved submit their report to Outspark, and let them make the final decision.

lulx i know that from your perspective it looks like milky was "interfering"BUT we are just follows whats the Calendar says,it clearly said that today was Milky day x.x.
p.s damn my english suck XD

To clear something up Jerry, just because Milky was alotted the day on the calendar doesn't mean that others who are not on the list cannot choose to raid...to do so would in fact be spot claiming. The question is not who was there first either....because that would be spot claiming as well. The question is who got the first hit on Helga. The mob belongs to that group.

[mredlodge]

Milky was grinding in an area of the map that was unoccupied by anyone else (where Helga spawns). From what I saw, nobody outside of Milky could even get to that part of the map, so no spot claiming was necessary.

[IroguroMeek]

anywayz...when will the small guilds/group have a slot for the raids???

You still have not answered my question lol. Is your raid that you are holding, going to be open to everyone who wants to come (besides guilds/groups already on the list) or is it just going to be whoever you let come?

And you also have not chosen the day you would like to raid. Monday the 20th has been filled, so any other freeday after that should be fine unless anything changes.

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

i think there was a free day on a weekend later this month, can we get that o.o. I think jj is trying to make it only a guild thing. i dont know for sure if hes gonna add friends or anything yet.

[jliciousness]

You still have not answered my question lol. Is your raid that you are holding, going to be open to everyone who wants to come (besides guilds/groups already on the list) or is it just going to be whoever you let come?

And you also have not chosen the day you would like to raid. Monday the 20th has been filled, so any other freeday after that should be fine unless anything changes.

any1 who waants to come they can come...
except for ppl whos alrdy in the regular guilds ^^
ill take all the free dayz ;o

so if any guilds, VK, SG, Nemesis, Phoenix down etc... wants 2 come w. us they can come... or if any groups would want 2 come jst tell me...

[FuSiOnStealth]

Thats what every Large Guild would like but they also want to spot claim the area for helga spawns. yet again if everyone in a map has the same right to a mob then who has the right to helga, just because you pull it does it make it yours ?

Ontop of that if you barged in on someone elses raid and pulled who's to say they wouldnt have eventually made the pull without outside help from the group that came in.

Opinion from a player in a small guild (what exactly is a large guild any way ^^); not meant to be inflammatory.

KS'ing a mob (e.g., Helga) can be considered a TOS infraction. That is for CSR to decide based on evidence and severity of incident. Although there are a bunch of interpretations of what KS'ing is, OS obviously has an enforceable definition as its a term referenced in the TOS. However is an OS costumer support issue to enforce the definition and take whatever actions it deems necessary. I guess this is a round about way of saying we should not be arguing over what is/is not KS'ing and who KS'es who or not... Involved parties will work out their issues with CSR.

Beyond KS'ing, there is a real and worthy of discussing issue tied to spot claiming. I do not believe that in any raid I've participated in or watched was there an attempt to claim a spot. Scheduled raids are not an attempt to reserve/claim a spot, but rather a mechanisms to coordinate between guild cooperating in the 'schedule'. I would consider the words used, '...you barged in on someone elses raid.. ' to be more akin to spot claiming.

TOH is a map like any other and anyone who has access to the map is welcome to come and go as they please, when they please. The only rules applicable are interactions between players. You know, no ks'ing, no training, respect each other, ... the standard stuff.

So there really is no problem of any number of groups grinding in TOH as long as they respect the basic rules of play. If two groups intent on getting Helga collide (like what appears to have happened the most recent raid), then its really got to boil down to simple rules of game play. Group A and group B are in competition up until one of the groups gains control of the mob (i.e., pulls Helga). The group who gains control has the mob up until they either kill it or give up (give up not loose control -- feared tankers does not mean the mob is fair game again). The other group doesn't have to leave, but should definitely not interfere. It really is that simple... It holds true for slimes right outside Roumen gate up through Helga.

Sorry for rant and babble, but we really are making this a lot harder than it has to be.

Stealthy

[pokemon4955]

*Kneel down to mr paws* the mighty archer has spoken :D<33

[jannij777]

Thats what every Large Guild would like but they also want to spot claim the area for helga spawns. yet again if everyone in a map has the same right to a mob then who has the right to helga, "just because you pull it does it make it yours ? "

Ontop of that if you barged in on someone elses raid and pulled who's to say they wouldnt have eventually made the pull without outside help from the group that came in.


"just because you pull it does it make it yours ? "

since we all know if you pull something ,and then start to kill "since lvl1"
and a other comes to kill it =ks

you just sayd that you ks ,d milky,but i think the video is more as enough

[IroguroMeek]

any1 who waants to come they can come...
except for ppl whos alrdy in the regular guilds ^^
ill take all the free dayz ;o

so if any guilds, VK, SG, Nemesis, Phoenix down etc... wants 2 come w. us they can come... or if any groups would want 2 come jst tell me...

Idk if I can give you ALL the free days haha i can try to shoot for once a week, and see how things go first and we'll try to add more days if things get better?

And do you have the drop distribution all figured out? Also, will you be making a thread to notify anyone who wants to come to the raids?

[jannij777]

....im just saying if people see that ,and dont get punished it will be a chaos in the future

[jannij777]

To keep this from turning into flames between posters I suggest that any and all conversation regarding the subject from this point on be kept to PM.

I suggest that anyone involved submit their report to Outspark, and let them make the final decision.



To clear something up Jerry, just because Milky was alotted the day on the calendar doesn't mean that others who are not on the list cannot choose to raid...to do so would in fact be spot claiming. The question is not who was there first either....because that would be spot claiming as well. The question is who got the first hit on Helga. The mob belongs to that group.




we got the first hit (milky) the other party guild could come close enough to attack it,i saw it since i was 1 of the main clerics for that raid

[IroguroMeek]

....im just saying if people see that this auction dont get punished it will be a chaos in the future

I agree, we have no control over people's actions, but I do hope that people do not continue this sort of stuff. Anyways, I probably will not be on tomorrow, I will be busy so I hope that everything turns out well. Good Luck to MA, and if anyone needs anything I'm sure Celtic would be more than happy to help.

[Celtic_Princess]

I agree, we have no control over people's actions, but I do hope that people do not continue this sort of stuff. Anyways, I probably will not be on tomorrow, I will be busy so I hope that everything turns out well. Good Luck to MA, and if anyone needs anything I'm sure Celtic would be more than happy to help.

If its forum issue sure, I'm more than willing to help if I can. I've got an 8 hour work day....please bug me. I'll be so bored......

[mstp14]

hmm why would anyone farm kallaps ?

[pokemon4955]

lmfao gerard i think kallaps sometimes drops blue o.o but its low chance tho,better luck than farm helga sure its hard but expected to drop something!!! lmao

[jliciousness]

Idk if I can give you ALL the free days haha i can try to shoot for once a week, and see how things go first and we'll try to add more days if things get better?

And do you have the drop distribution all figured out? Also, will you be making a thread to notify anyone who wants to come to the raids?

we'll worry bout the drops just give us a day we'll sort it out someway and if dznt go well then we can always put a stop to my idea ^^

yea ill make a thread as long as u give the groups/guilds joining together a regular slot so i'll see what i can do next...

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

can i ask a question. so this schedule only does server raids when a guild fails to kill helga after its spawn. or if someone breaks the rules on their day?

[Celtic_Princess]

can i ask a question. so this schedule only does server raids when a guild fails to kill helga after its spawn. or if someone breaks the rules on their day?

Um...from what I understand (someone correct me if I'm wrong) server raids can occur in several situations:

1) If a guild drops
2) If a guild fails to kill Helga within 2 hours of their start time
3) If a free day goes unclaimed by a new guild/group

[BlackDragonEX]

what time does helga spawn and is the 2hr rule happening..because i think helga spawned allready and no sign of MA?

Edit:SupremeSociety are there now..saying there guna kill it O=

[pokemon4955]

Good luck MA today! O:

[TITLE]

what time does helga spawn and is the 2hr rule happening..because i think helga spawned allready and no sign of MA?

Edit:SupremeSociety are there now..saying there guna kill it O=

Lol? Calling a kill on a running schedule?

[artboi]

dude if you could put the time that helga got killed each day at the front page it would be a [heck] of alot ez to know when its gonna spawn.
right now im having two guilds up my [*cough*] preassuring us that we have limited time. when in the schedule it says 4pm OS is when helga will spawn so i am going by that time only. But then i am told that it got killed at 2pm OS time yesterday.

edit ok i see the time it got killed in front page now
but could you guys specify the 2 hour rule?
is it 2 hour time limit we get after it respawned? or 2 hour limit when it says in the schedule we start at 4pm OS time.

im having Supremesociety and HVG calling our raid a server raid when i didnt know about this.

[Andromeda]

Lol? Calling a kill on a running schedule?


There is nothing wrong with that yes it will make people very angry and would make me very angry too if it happened to our guild but really there is nothing that can be done about it.

[artboi]

ok guys forget the schedule for me
my raid was ruined due to insufficient espicifications of the rules and so i will have server raids everyday, have a good day.

[BlackDragonEX]

dude if you could put the time that helga got killed each day at the front page it would be a [o.o"] of alot ez to know when its gonna spawn.
right now im having two guilds up my [._."] preassuring us that we have limited time. when in the schedule it says 4pm OS is when helga will spawn so i am going by that time only. But then i am told that it got killed at 2pm OS time yesterday.

edit ok i see the time it got killed in front page now
but could you guys specify the 2 hour rule?
is it 2 hour time limit we get after it respawned? or 2 hour limit when it says in the schedule we start at 4pm OS time.

im having Supremesociety and HVG calling our raid a server raid when i didnt know about this.
no member from either guild called a server raid..All we did was remind you of the 2hr rule..you still had time when YOU announced that it could be a sever raid.

[SweetLavender]

dude if you could put the time that helga got killed each day at the front page it would be a [:D] of alot ez to know when its gonna spawn.
right now im having two guilds up my [>:D] preassuring us that we have limited time. when in the schedule it says 4pm OS is when helga will spawn so i am going by that time only. But then i am told that it got killed at 2pm OS time yesterday.

edit ok i see the time it got killed in front page now
but could you guys specify the 2 hour rule?
is it 2 hour time limit we get after it respawned? or 2 hour limit when it says in the schedule we start at 4pm OS time.

im having Supremesociety and HVG calling our raid a server raid when i didnt know about this.

I know what you mean :/ I didn't see that chart until a few days ago XD sigh x.x *facepalm*

[artboi]

no member from either guild called a server raid..All we did was remind you of the 2hr rule..you still had time when YOU announced that it could be a sever raid.

lol its ok its gonna be server raid everyday now since HVG and SS didnt wanna wait.
dont care what happened today, HVG didnt wanna wait for us cool we wont wait for anyone.

[BlackDragonEX]

lol its ok its gonna be server raid everyday now
dont care what happened today, HVG didnt wanna wait for us cool we wont wait for anyone.

just for the record..ksing is agaisnt ToS.

[artboi]

just for the record..ksing is agaisnt ToS.

and what is that suppouse to mean to me? XD
its just a fact yea...

[Nipah]

wait 24 whut happened o.o

[HeroicAce]

if i might try and explain, im almost sure that meek meant for the 2 hours to start at the planned respawn time and not necessarily the actual respawn time. because if he is killed several hours before and no one tells the next guild then you are basically taking their shot away from them. i know meek isnt here atm but im pretty sure that was his idea when he made that rule. if that is the case then MA has their 2 hours starting in 30 minutes as it will just then be 4 pm ost. id ask you all to wait and let it pass this way for now and get the actual answer from meek when he gets back, so that we dont force a guild out by acting bad when we may or may not have it right.

[IroguroMeek]

Gah, this is on the front page along with the other rules.


Note: The 2 hour limit is only an estimate, aslong as Helga is killed before the expected respawn time on the next day, everything should work out fine. For Example:

Milky kills Helga at 3pm OS time (Expected respawn time for the next day is 6pm). This means that Mighty_Army, has 3 hours in total to kill Helga. MA must kill it before 6pm or else it will become a server raid.

I highly encourage that guilds kill Helga as soon as possible, as this will help out other guilds greatly.

That's why I stated many time it is important to read the rules.
The least we can do for MA is give them 2 days in 1 week to compensate for the lost of Helga since a sever raid was called. But it all comes down to your guys decision, if MA still chooses to disregard the schedule then this schedule will more then likely be trashed. Because without the cooperation of all the guilds involved in this, this schedule will not work. If one goes, we all go.

[artboi]

if i might try and explain, im almost sure that meek meant for the 2 hours to start at the planned respawn time and not necessarily the actual respawn time. because if he is killed several hours before and no one tells the next guild then you are basically taking their shot away from them. i know meek isnt here atm but im pretty sure that was his idea when he made that rule. if that is the case then MA has their 2 hours starting in 30 minutes as it will just then be 4 pm ost. id ask you all to wait and let it pass this way for now and get the actual answer from meek when he gets back, so that we dont force a guild out by acting bad when we may or may not have it right.

well HVG and supremesociety has taken our spot calling it out server raid when my guild didnt even try to pull helga. Inner_Circle was here but they LEFT, yes they left cause they agree to my reasoning, as well as Milky.

We have respected every guild in the schedule for the past 3 weeks, we never even bothered the guilds that we do not get along with. And then they come up with this BS

[HeroicAce]

meek that doesnt make sense. if the expected respawn for MA is 6pm then why should they have to kill it before 6pm? im thinking that its a typo. is it instead if milky killed it at 3pm and saturdays respawn is 6pm then MA has to kill him by 6pm?

[ElCuau]

OK I will start this with facts.

We MA have respect every day for everybodys (guilds).
Thsi just turn into a personal matter what it seems. They (HVG and Supreeme Sociaty) claim it bacause of the time. We were not ready by that time. We explain it and ask them to give us some time, ( why should we asking them for time if it is our day). Last Friday was the same and even took us longer like 5 hours to kill him cause we did not have the people online. Inner Cirlcle my respect and Milky they left the place.

If those guilds interfeer with our raids they better be sure we will do a great job messing with theirs.

And I am predictiting how does everybody will respond to my post, ( they will just talk about me -cursing- and getting out of the subject ). You all will see.

[artboi]

Man we didnt have time limit before why put it now?
this only puts alot of preassure on the raiding guild, and causes more vultures

[ElCuau]

Gah, this is on the front page along with the other rules.



That's why I stated many time it is important to read the rules.
The least we can do for MA is give them 2 days in 1 week to compensate for the lost of Helga since a sever raid was called. But it all comes down to your guys decision, if MA still chooses to disregard the schedule then this schedule will more then likely be trashed. Because without the cooperation of all the guilds involved in this, this schedule will not work. If one goes, we all go.

HVG and SUpreme Society are the ones not respecting our day. Is not all the guilds, it will not be fair for Milky, IC, ur guild and the others, ujst because of them. So think a little more before you make up ur mind and wrtie down something that will be misunderstood by the people.

[BlackDragonEX]

are artboi and ELCuaut he same people??

[artboi]

when at all did a HvG member say 'i declare a sever raid' ...?


edit: i think i failed with the whole 'quote the right quote thing'

you guys called times up it is server raid now... jeanpaul did actually.

[doddzy83]

are artboi and ELCuaut he same people??

Artboi is 24

ELCuau is Elcuau

[BlackDragonEX]

Artboi is 24

ELCuau is Elcuau

damn that allmost same siggy thing confused me.

[jliciousness]

btw meek..

DEFINE OFFICIAL START TIME???
i mean from when the 2hours time limit start...

is it the EXPECTED SPAWN TIME??
or the KILL TIME that tells us exactly when the next spawn is???
cuz so far the trend has been goin by the kill time, where in ppl get rdy and wait before the actual helga respawn which makes ppl think that its when the 2hour limit start...

[HeroicAce]

btw meek..

DEFINE OFFICIAL START TIME???
i mean from when the 2hours time limit start...

is it the EXPECTED SPAWN TIME??
or the KILL TIME that tells us exactly when the next spawn is???
cuz so far the trend has been goin by the kill time, where in ppl get rdy and wait before the actual helga respawn which makes ppl think that its when the 2hour limit start...

look back a page, he already said its the expected time. the only reason people were going by actual times is cause they didnt fully understand what meek meant.

*edit* btw it took me 4-5 times reading it to be sure but now im almost 100% sure thats his meaning.

[jliciousness]

lol ok so we'll go by the expected time?? aiight then....

*journal*
7:44 EST=4:44 OS time...
so far...MA is failing...

about 1hour and 26min its a server raid right???...

[HeroicAce]

lol ok so we'll go by the expected time?? aiight then....

*journal*
7:44 EST=4:44 OS time...
so far...MA is failing...

about 1hour and 26min its a server raid right???...

according to the rule yes, but that does not mean the second it turns 6pm ost it becomes a server raid. if MA is still fighting him at that time then its still theirs. if they all die and lose him however i think then everyone else is allowed to join in. but dont trust me, go check the first page to be sure. its all written there, im just explaining what i read as i understand it.

[jliciousness]

the thing is they nvr even got helga out upto now xDDD

but yea 53min till server raid xDDD
__________

edit: now they pulled it xDDD

[HeroicAce]

the thing is they nvr even got helga out upto now xDDD

but yea 53min till server raid xDDD
__________

edit: now they pulled it xDDD

well as long as they have it then attacking it would be ks'ing. even if it was after 6pm. so make sure you tell whoever is there for a server raid to wait if 6pm hits and MA still has him.

[Marck]

ehm meek i still not understood as work the 2 hours limit... like i back at home at 6pm OS time and helga was still there alive with MA raiding it... i thought it was supposed to be killed hours before! but maybe is 2 hours by when they start raids & not by respawn?! or what? i'm lost o.0

OFF TOPIC: i get o.0 on why MA never shows what helga dropps they hide and don't talk

[artboi]

ok they let us kill helga without disturbances from both HVG and SS, the only disturbance we had was from <Removed> that pulled mobs on us when helga was almost dead the first time we pulled him.
helga was killed at 5:45 pm OS time

we got only a helga shield
and a blue fighter shield

[boomdude111]

so you were ksed, or is someone not tellin all, 2 helga drops a kill ;P sure you didn't get a bow? lol

but congrats to MA, and sorry that someone disturbed your raid(would say name but idk if that can get my in trouble for black listing x.x)

[Iffrit]

so you were ksed, or is someone not tellin all, 2 helga drops a kill ;P sure you didn't get a bow? lol

but congrats to MA, and sorry that someone disturbed your raid(would say name but idk if that can get my in trouble for black listing x.x)

LMFAO Boom bro, now I understand what ur siggy mean :eek:.

Anyway gratz to MA,and sorry to hear that u got trained. Some peoples just jeaolous becoz they are not good enough to organize a group and kill Helga on their own :rolleyes:

[BLACKWAR]

yeh bad talk there say {GM} need see the pice no one pull mob in helga he only call help the moster come all die theres

[BLACKWAR]

i well show {GM} thes talk u say in me name play <Removed>
guild name <Removed>

[mredlodge]

ehm meek i still not understood as work the 2 hours limit... like i back at home at 6pm OS time and helga was still there alive with MA raiding it... i thought it was supposed to be killed hours before! but maybe is 2 hours by when they start raids & not by respawn?! or what? i'm lost o.0

OFF TOPIC: i get o.0 on why MA never shows what helga dropps they hide and don't talk

It's an 'estimated' time. Something to have a general idea to schedule around a week or so in advance. The two guilds killed it a bit earlier this week, so it bumped up the time a bit. But you need to have an idea of when you are going to kill it a week or more in advance.

What if tonight, there was a server reset at 3 am OS time? You think it's fair to call the 2 hour time limit on the next guild while they sleep? M_A had until 6 pm OS time to kill Helga tonight. Chances are the time will be made up as the spawn times get later into the week and more ppl are home from work/school.

The 2 hour time limit is from 'estimated time of spawn'. It would be beneficial to kill earlier if possible, but not mandatory. It's the best we can do right now since nobody wants to step up and kill Helga earlier than the current groups are on Wed, Thur, and Fri. These days will always be the hardest to man. By the weekend and evenings of Mon-Tues, the guild/groups will have an easier time killing Helga.

Let the fight for Primetime begin....LOL

[Kyo_Sama]

LMFAO Boom bro, now I understand what ur siggy mean :eek:.

Anyway gratz to MA,and sorry to hear that u got trained. Some peoples just jeaolous becoz they are not good enough to organize a group and kill Helga on their own :rolleyes:

And some people are just to pretentious and refuse to see the light of day

[artboi]

yeh bad talk there say {GM} need see the pice no one pull mob in helga he only call help the moster come all die theres

i well show {GM} thes talk u say in me name play <removed>
guild name <removed>

wha....?.....

[Kyo_Sama]

wha....?.....

I believe hes saying hes going to report <Removed> for offensive language.

But thats only my best interpretation of what he wrote after re reading it.

[artboi]

I believe hes saying hes going to report <Removed> for offensive language.

But thats only my best interpretation of what he wrote after re reading it.

i got that much xD

[FuSiOnStealth]

Gratz MA ^^

[trav13so]

i well show {GM} thes talk u say in me name play <Removed>
guild name <Removed>

ummmmmmmmmm

[trav13so]

so you were ksed, or is someone not tellin all, 2 helga drops a kill ;P sure you didn't get a bow? lol

but congrats to MA, and sorry that someone disturbed your raid(would say name but idk if that can get my in trouble for black listing x.x)

24 u should talk to this guy about that bow o-o