View Full Version : New Helga Schedule Feed Back
Sakura_The_Mage
04-19-2009, 04:00 PM
Well I was able to talk to Meek today and he said I should get Feed Back on it first.
I was thinking we could make a new schedule where five guilds raid per week and two days are for smaller parties.
For Example:
Mighty_Army, Loveless, BousuIIRenkin, Milky, Holy_VanGuards Raid. On the days of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Then Friday and Saturday is for a party of 5-20 people. These parties will be chosen depending on when the party can raid and when people want to sign up.
But then next week. The two guilds that were taken off/ didn't raid will be on the next week. Ex:
Mighty_Army, Collision, Inner_Circle, Milky, Holy_VanGuards will Raid the next week. And then a different party will take over the two days.
The guilds will be switched off evenly. And the parties of 5-20 people will switch off every week.
If a guild/party fails to do their Raid it will be considered a server raid and they may or may not get their day back depending on Feed Back. Please post your suggestions on this forums or contact me IG. :)
IGN: Xx_CLeric_xX
Thanks. ^^
trav13so
04-19-2009, 05:35 PM
O_O i dint read it yet....
HeroicAce
04-19-2009, 05:48 PM
my only question is what is the plan for spawn times? as it is now even with limiting the time to kill we have lost tuesdays 3 out of 4 times. id like to hear if there is a plan for that before i cast my vote if you dont mind.
mkdimmortal
04-19-2009, 05:49 PM
I like it how MA was on both "weeks" >.>
allyyCORE
04-19-2009, 06:08 PM
it's just an example man lol relax a bit
Nipah
04-19-2009, 07:35 PM
too much organizing for something that will end up falling through in my opinion. :/
Andromeda
04-19-2009, 07:43 PM
too much organizing for something that will end up falling through in my opinion. :/
I have to agree with this. There are only a couple days away from the cap raise once and the people that already have their Hellgait weapons and capped will most likely go into HT ignoring the Schedule since Id imagine Helga and its mobs will be much easier to defeat by then. They would have enough time to defeat Helga before anyone notices and get out of there before anyone can find out who defeated Helga.
This schedule has been very good up to now but im 95% certain this schedule will fail after cap raise either because people are much stronger so they can defeat Helga quicker and or Outspark lower Helgas Spawn time even further which would render the schedule useless anyway.
Nipah
04-19-2009, 08:05 PM
I have to agree with this. There are only a couple days away from the cap raise once and the people that already have their Hellgait weapons and capped will most likely go into HT ignoring the Schedule since Id imagine Helga and its mobs will be much easier to defeat by then. They would have enough time to defeat Helga before anyone notices and get out of there before anyone can find out who defeated Helga.
This schedule has been very good up to now but im 95% certain this schedule will fail after cap raise either because people are much stronger so they can defeat Helga quicker and or Outspark lower Helgas Spawn time even further which would render the schedule useless anyway.
you said it in words i could not :) thank you
ffron
04-19-2009, 08:41 PM
I agree with Andromeda( which is rare from past run ins but meh) this schedule was a good idea at the start, but as ppl level higher what about all us small guilds or lower levels, when we actually catch up to higher levels and want to go for a helga weapon we can't and i highly doublt ppl will pay 50g+ for one, imho i think ppl should start dropping the prices to 10-15g or maybe a little lower before the cap raise, look what happend to 70 blue weapons, but yeah i know, ppl are greedy and dont think about other players, just themselves
allyyCORE
04-19-2009, 09:47 PM
Even if the schedule fails, I think that as long as people aren't killing Helga just to farm it, it should all be okay- Take your weapons and gtfo, that's how I'd do it hahaha.
mredlodge
04-19-2009, 10:28 PM
Well I was able to talk to Meek today and he said I should get Feed Back on it first.
I was thinking we could make a new schedule where five guilds raid per week and two days are for smaller parties.
For Example:
Mighty_Army, Loveless, BousuIIRenkin, Milky, Holy_VanGuards Raid. On the days of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Then Friday and Saturday is for a party of 5-20 people. These parties will be chosen depending on when the party can raid and when people want to sign up.
But then next week. The two guilds that were taken off/ didn't raid will be on the next week. Ex:
Mighty_Army, Collision, Inner_Circle, Milky, Holy_VanGuards will Raid the next week. And then a different party will take over the two days.
The guilds will be switched off evenly. And the parties of 5-20 people will switch off every week.
If a guild/party fails to do their Raid it will be considered a server raid and they may or may not get their day back depending on Feed Back. Please post your suggestions on this forums or contact me IG. :)
IGN: Xx_CLeric_xX
Thanks. ^^
In my opinion, there have been a few good ideas brought up recently on the main thread. This is so similar to what the schedule is evolving towards it realy wasn't necessary to make another thread. In fact, this idea leaves out a few of the newer guilds/groups capable of killing Helga in the near future.
If you have a good idea, it will stand out in the other thread. No need to make a new one. (why does this whole OP and thread seem so familiar to me?)
Fre_ak
04-19-2009, 10:59 PM
lol i know right..it would be a lot better to keep all the suggestions about the schedule in 1 single thread...its easier that way then looking at 2-3threads about the same thing
Sakura_The_Mage
04-20-2009, 12:00 PM
I actually did talk to Meek, and I told him that I was going to make a poll. He said if Feed Back was good he'd decide to make a new schedule. But I would like to say is that, spawn times will most likely be in OS time and the raids will be scheduled when the guild can raid, and what day they choose. The Free Days that are on Meek's calendar, I is what this is like. I want everyone to try to get a raid in. I mean it's kinda unfair, right? All these people want to go to a raid but they can't. If you weren't in your "godly" guild, wouldn't you want to have some part in it? We kinda just simply wanted some feed back so we know if we should make a new schedule or if we should keep the old one, leaving the Free Day as it is. In my opinion, I think there should be at least two free days so smaller parties can. Even though I'm in BIIR, and I can Raid on Mondays, still I want to make it fair, for everyone. There's a lot of people in what some may call a "noob" guild who wants to raid, why can't we make it open for them? They want Helgaits as much as we do probably. And also, we can have guilds pick the date they want and the parties the date they want to Raid. But I think since some people live on the East Coast, maybe kill Helga by maybe 8 OS? I don't really know what's best for some people.
But anyways I'm just stating something that a few people liked.. .__.
mredlodge
04-20-2009, 04:35 PM
I actually did talk to Meek, and I told him that I was going to make a poll. He said if Feed Back was good he'd decide to make a new schedule. But I would like to say is that, spawn times will most likely be in OS time and the raids will be scheduled when the guild can raid, and what day they choose. The Free Days that are on Meek's calendar, I is what this is like. I want everyone to try to get a raid in. I mean it's kinda unfair, right? All these people want to go to a raid but they can't. If you weren't in your "godly" guild, wouldn't you want to have some part in it? We kinda just simply wanted some feed back so we know if we should make a new schedule or if we should keep the old one, leaving the Free Day as it is. In my opinion, I think there should be at least two free days so smaller parties can. Even though I'm in BIIR, and I can Raid on Mondays, still I want to make it fair, for everyone. There's a lot of people in what some may call a "noob" guild who wants to raid, why can't we make it open for them? They want Helgaits as much as we do probably. And also, we can have guilds pick the date they want and the parties the date they want to Raid. But I think since some people live on the East Coast, maybe kill Helga by maybe 8 OS? I don't really know what's best for some people.
But anyways I'm just stating something that a few people liked.. .__.
It's against my better judgement to bump this thread again but I've said time and time again in several of the other threads: "If I were not a member of one of the larger guilds, I would have immediately gotten a group of people together and found a spot on this schedule. I would not be in here whining about my guild being too small or the time of spawn not being suitable to my liking. I would have gotten a group together to kill Helga at one of the specified times and have several successful raids under my belt by now.....period."
I'm sure everyone wants a Hellgait weapon but you have to understand it isn't as easy as you think. Even capped players with godly +9 armor are too low of level to handle these raids without help from the cash shop. Sure, it's fun to be involved but if you are not 8x, you really don't stand much of a chance to survive in there if you are truly taking part in the raid. That leaves you as an observer with all the desire of having a Hellgait weapon but not the ability to effectively contribute to the killing of Helga.
Personally, I think you should concentrate on levelling and not worry about Helga for now. And please, I know many pple share my view but will not say it in a public forum, but this schedule is finally in Meeks hands again. Let's leave it there. He has displayed infinite patience and dedication without ever returning any of the flames he has recieved by people who jumped into the middle of this whole thing without any knowledge of it's history. Please offer your suggestions if you need to, but don't try to take any of this responsibilty upon yourself.
Sakura_The_Mage
04-20-2009, 05:00 PM
Eh. Not to be rude or anything, but Meek did approve of this and liked the idea.
DemonBlitzKragor
04-20-2009, 05:16 PM
Guys, cleric has talked to meek about it and both received confirmation that the idea can be brought into play. They just felt they'd like to see the community's feedback on it to kinda give more of a boost on it. Also, it's in a new thread as keeping it in the other threads could mix it up with different ideas thus having people misunderstand what's going on.
Sakura_The_Mage
04-20-2009, 05:22 PM
:) Thanks DBK. I hope people know I was only suggesting it and to get feed Back now.
Sakura_The_Mage
04-21-2009, 03:25 PM
Bumping. D: I need some more Feed Back~
HeroicAce
04-21-2009, 03:38 PM
id love to answer but i really cant form an opinion until i get the answer to my question. if you could do that then ill have a better idea of what i think.
Sakura_The_Mage
04-21-2009, 03:58 PM
Oh eh, Sorry. I think it's mixed up in other stuff.
But yes, we will have certain times where you would have to kill Helga to make it convenient for the other people. If you live on the east coast like me, I think Helga will have to be killed at about 10 or so Eastern Time. In Meek's schedule if you've seen it, there are respawn times. The same thing will apply here, just an extra free day in the schedule. I'm sorry I didn't mention it. ^^ If you need a bit more info before you vote, just ask. :]