Warriors

[Georgie]

How do you feel PvP-Wise?

[caducus]

Hurt, weakened, always playing an uphill battle and loving it. I don't know why but I always love playing the weakest pvp.

Warriors have no gimmik like other classes to help them out.

Rogues - Have Sealth and Stun
Archers - Range and instant casts
Mages - Range and high damage
Priests - Range and heal
Monks - Attacks do not have a starting delay(cast time) but have a finishing delay

What is the Warrior Gimmik that should help us win? All our attacks have a cast time. Other classes have Freeze, which only way we can get off is through a grab or if they charge into it.

Oh? we Increase our attack OR our defence? Well other classes can increase thier speed and movement with out giving up something else. Warriors have to give defence or attack and vice versa(and they even cancle out if you cast them both on you). On top of that, what is 19% of 80 damage? SO what I am now doing around 100 damage!!!! Yay.

We survive and win pvp by grabbing people + specials or just normal melee. One can argue Counters do the same but like I said before, thier abilities only have a delay at the end and not at the start so they can do a jump kick and then dragon flaming thingy.

It gets better as a Zerger thought. Our specials do more damage and with the right equips we can do as much damage as a priest with our special attacks(still beaten by a Counter's freeze spell thingy). Stack that with fury and Increase attack power(which both spells KILLS US) we can hit for around 200-230 damage. We still mainly play the same but we get stronger spells.

Then at 41 we get Sonic Slash. This is a GODSEND for Pvp. It is a skill that does not have a cast time but a cast delay at the end of the spell. This means we can use it to catch and damage people on the run. We can use it as a dash charge. We can use it as a strike through. We can even use it to combo things alot better.

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At the same time, Paladins are stuck with playing the same style as a warrior. They do get a nice "dun na na na, can't touch this" bubble at 49 which helps greatly. Other then that, they are STUCK with the same playstyle as a warrior but with more buffs.

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Zergers don't seem like Warriors who can Slash and Slash on the battle field given that all our skills but one can be interupted by a simple melee hit. They can't keep themselves protected if they have to use HP to use thier best skills. Heck they can't keep themselves protected at all other then using a hit and run method(or hit and jump).

Paladins can't protect worth crap. Thier auras have little use in PvP or PvE since only one can be used at a time and the effects are not that great.

Warriors do not exell in PvP due to high stamina. Yes we have a higher HP mod from Spr so we get about 100 more HP then any other class in PvP. OUr melee skills are not essential since a Monk could out damage them and we have to sit through a cast time for each of them

(the last 3 bits here are talking about what it says on the Wind Slayer Class discription page)

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Finally, I would not leave my warrior for the world but it saddens me on how many warriors I see in pvp. I have seen.... ZERO pro rank warriors(zergers or paladins). On top of that, I can count of the top of my head the high level warriors I see PvP constantly. which is only about 5, 6 if you count myself. All other warriors are under 30 or even 20. I only seen two Other Zergers that is equal or higher to me in level in pvp. One is Pho but he plays his Monk in pvp more then his warrior. The other one I forgot his name =(.

Why do people say warriors are fine in PvP if you know how to play one? If that is true, then I should see ALOT more higher level warriors or even some Pro ranked PvP warriors. I seen Rogues, archers, Priests, Monks, and Mages Pro. I have yet to seen a Pro pvp warrior.

[doki_]

iFeel like Warriors aren't treat'd correctly.
With that may iSuggest a petition to change the Warrior's "Abilities?"

[ral13]

Warrior needs to be changed somehow for the better, changing their block to do more than just block for the low amount of armor the shield adds would be a start. Other than that I have no ideas whatsoever on how to improve the warrior class/2nd classes. :(

Edit: Forgot to say how I felt they do in pvp:

I find that warriors are too hard to do well with, why play a class that is hard to be good with when you can be any of the other classes and pick up n' play well? This is why I think very few ppl play warrior in pvp for more than a few rounds.

[caducus]

iFeel like Warriors aren't treat'd correctly.
With that may iSuggest a petition to change the Warrior's "Abilities?"

Thing is, if we do a petition or put in our Sugestions, whould they listen?

[Georgie]

I totally agree with above posts. I've been a Paladin for weeks now, and Warrior skills need to be patched.

[caducus]

Oh yeah, my PvP post above was about STD mode.

We have it better in Ult Mode but we run into a totally new problrem - Almost No mana. With no Int, we have about 150 mana at level 50(about 10 mana per int and I have 10, and at 250 mana). This means we can only get off 7 Zerger skills before we are out of mana or 14 warrior skills. Why do our skills cost from 20-50 mana at higher levels when we only get +1 mana per level? This forced a Zerger and a Paladin to get Int to be usefull in Ult mode pass the first 30 seconds. It also causes you to cring if just one attack misses.

[doki_]

Thing is, if we do a petition or put in our Sugestions, whould they listen?
iCan't answer that for iDo not know "they" or have any DIRECT relations with "they" .-.

If you put up a good debate on why it should be chang'd then YES,iThink they may consider it.
Then again....
If Korean WindSlayer is just going be like this one and the warrior types over there has NOT changed then iDon't see much of a light[hope] for change of warrior types.