Is solstice failing?

[ishru]

Hi everyone! This has been bumping around my head for awhile now, so I wanted to start an open discussion on something that been increasingly bothering me. I wonder how you (my fellow comrades) feel about this matter.

Lets not get it twisted, all this new content being added to the game is really, really, nice! Cool wings and pets, and now there are houses coming out! I mean at one point in time it felt NOTHING new is coming out, so this is great. What I'm wondering though is if the timing is wrong. Secret of Solstice is a great community, and is fun, but it's pretty obvious how imperfect/unbalanced it is. Personally, I would rather outspark focus on rehauling the classes, fixing bugs, adding quests for higher levels, and making PVP a more balanced/enjoyable past time.

I feel That with all these new features the game is losing credibility, and driving a stake through whatever balance the game did have. With this new content, there are new players completely skipping over the new maps for the exp galore found in the new maps. This is because of the outrageous def bonuses introduced (pet buffs/glitch, and increased attack) with the new updates. Also (yah yah) the magical classes are being completely driven out of the spotlight because we simply cannot remain competitive, since the new updates are for some reason omitted from us.

I guess what I'm saying is that maybe game quality should have been a priority, instead of adding more features that make the quality something of a joke. It's like building a house on a bad foundation. It doesn't make sense.

Personally, I think we should skip the houses and make PVP more balanced. A ranger should not be able to do 400+ damage on character who are of the same or equal level. Same goes for Burning Hands, easily the most cheapest and ridiculous skill in PVP. X_x

There is so much more to go one about. So are these new updates a blessing or a curse? Do you think solstice is unbalanced? How/where so? Voice your thoughts on this matter.:D

[Daft_Brat]

And arrest isn't? >.>

I think the problem is that the new content galore seems rushed somehow. Lots of glitched stuff including pets, buffs, whispers, xp books now and so on. It just seems like maybe they should have staggered the releases a bit more, given the economy time to adjust to one new quest and let people struggle along to get wings then when the novelty wore off, and the glitches fixed, add mounts. Once houses come out what is there to look forward too? O_o;
Idk that's just my thoughts on the matter. ^_^;

-_- not complaining btw...just saying that months with no new content and then a sudden rush of a ton of it isn't rly balanced. O.o

[ishru]

Actually arrest isn't unbalanced at all. Let me show you VS burning hands.

Arrest has a huge cool down, I think its 2 minutes, and it lasts for I believe 30 seconds. That leaves 1.5 minutes before you can consider casting it again. Arrest also doesn't leave the opponent exposed, as it when your under arrest you have a massive hp regeneration, and invulnerability to damage and status changes.

BH on the other hand lasts for a good while, long enough to heal, rebless, and amp yourself. It also leaves you exposed, as in vulnerable to damage and DOTs. And the kicker is that BH has an extremely short cool down.

So to say arrest is as cheap as BH is somewhat laughable x_X

[Endlesss]

Actually arrest isn't unbalanced at all. Let me show you VS burning hands.

Arrest has a huge cool down, I think its 2 minutes, and it lasts for I believe 30 seconds.

Arrest's cooldown is one minute long. This is still a little long in my opinion but two minutes is an exaggeration.

[ishru]

Thanks for the clarification, and I was also wrong about how long it lasts, which is 20 seconds. Wrong numbers, same point. x_X

[s2galm]

I Lol'd When I Heard The Annoucements In Game That

"Ooh New Luckyballs Are In Stores Now! :3"
Even When There Are So Many Problems Going In Game.

Oh, Fix The Chat Glitch Please. It's Getting Really Annoying. ^^

[Kendrah]

I'm very annoyed that the attk in the wing, mount, pets is only for the physical users. >: I think that's horrible unfair. I'm gunna join the camp that moans about this issue. What do magic users do, but attk? gah!

[himoses]

I don't think Solstice is failing. There is finally some new content, some decent new maps, and the economy of Adeline is making a really strong comeback. The community is pretty decent as well. This is an epic game that sucks a lot of time and money out of you if you want to be a good player. Outspark is also a relatively small gaming company. They have smaller resources compared to some other companies, but they are really responsive to players. Solstice is a decent product with a lot of little and some big flaws. This game could be sooo much better, but it is what it is...a fun and monotonous and sometimes boring game with a lot of promise.

[holli_hobbi]

I think we all appreciate the new content. But I'm ready for them to focus on fixing the bugs before they come out with more. There are still original quests that have bugs in them. Even silly little stuff like the last Grocery guy quest you can't do because savory is spelled wrong. I realize that is minor, but its an example of how far back the bugs go. Please please please focus on fixing what we already have before adding anything more new.

[opensunflowers]

I think that they might have given too much new content too fast.
I mean, I like it, I guess; but compared to how fast we had new content in the past...I dunno. I feel like it's a lot at once.

I don't play anymore (computer broke, this one can hardly run the internet rofl) and I really have no intent to return. So I guess it really doesn't matter what I think.

Though I do think you are right, Magiik. ;)

[poochyenarulez]

dang, i was just about to make a thread like this >.<

but i prefer more bugs being fixed than more updates, i mean, wats the point of updates if u can't use them becasue of all the bugs?

and yea, were getting content to fast~
we will get no content for a while, then suddenly we get about 100 updates x_x
little overwhelming i guess~

[requiemofdecember]

Cant forget the Spirit stones are called Sprit Stones, and in Candyvault souvenir quest, it says Candybolt.

but yeah I agree. My main is an aco and lately it seems like we're kinda getting ripped off :/ I wish that we atleast had 'one' aoe attack because im pushing level 60 and it's so hard to level without being in a party, and you cant farm anything, have horrible defense..the list will go on. Im just listing what Ive heard from others too.

[s2galm]

Cant forget the Spirit stones are called Sprit Stones, and in Candyvault souvenir quest, it says Candybolt.

but yeah I agree. My main is an aco and lately it seems like we're kinda getting ripped off :/ I wish that we atleast had 'one' aoe attack because im pushing level 60 and it's so hard to level without being in a party, and you cant farm anything, have horrible defense..the list will go on. Im just listing what Ive heard from others too.

If You Want To AoE, Go Disciple. Cleric Is A Support Character.

[taintedl0ve]

If You Want To AoE, Go Disciple. Cleric Is A Support Character.

I agree. I'm tired of hearing healers complain about not being able to AOE.

But I don't think the game is failing. How many people still pay out of their butts for sparkcash? A lot. There are still many people that enjoy this game, and will keep going until they reach goals. Sure it's got problems, but people will still play regardless.

[poochyenarulez]

If You Want To AoE, Go Disciple. Cleric Is A Support Character.

archer is long range class, but they get short range aoe, and tanks get a long range attack ">.>

talk about this on my thread plz, not this one~

[poochyenarulez]

the only thing ic failing is the sc store
IT IS A COMPLETE FAIL

there are random sales every week, so u never know if u need to buy something now, or later if it gets on sale
and stuff price gets changed alot, like yellow eggs, 1 sc rez, lucky ball, all the 7 day things and alot of other things have increased, and non holiday things get removed witch is so annoying, i've been wanting to buy the yin-yang emotion for a while, but they removed it, so i didn't get mroe sc to get it~ but now they did add it back, so i bought it
y do they even remove stuff?

[Orangeman21]

the only thing ic failing is the sc store
IT IS A COMPLETE FAIL

there are random sales every week, so u never know if u need to buy something now, or later if it gets on sale
and stuff price gets changed alot, like yellow eggs, 1 sc rez, lucky ball, all the 7 day things and alot of other things have increased, and non holiday things get removed witch is so annoying, i've been wanting to buy the yin-yang emotion for a while, but they removed it, so i didn't get mroe sc to get it~ but now they did add it back, so i bought it
y do they even remove stuff?

Offtopic:
Its economics O.o basically they want the equilibrium price to be as high as possible. (the goal of any buisness)

Example: You know when Disney takes old movies from its "movie vault" and puts it back in stores for a limited time. People will go out and buy it like mad because there is a high demand for it. After a couple of weeks/months Disney will see a decline in sales and will move the movies back into the vault and not offer them for sale again until the demand for the movie rises again so they can charge a higher price than if they just always stocked the movies.

Anyway yeah outspark just wants to make the most money possible (wouldn't you?) and is making this desicion based on past sales history of items etc..

Ontopic:
Really people complain to much when we get good updates but they take to long people complain, but when they rush the good updates, but they are really buggy and people complain about that. Outspark/DNC should release the houses then take a few deep breaths and not worry about people complaining and fix everything and after all the bugs are worked out then release new maps and content.

One trend I see is a lot of the really old players (CB, Early OB) are getting tired and bored and are quiting/retiring/playing less/not buying sc including me I just come on to chat with my guildies, MM ftw.

[BellaAnimorum]

There have been a few threads of this nature in all the time I've been a member of this community, but perhaps it's time to rehash a few points again.

First: The only element that makes this game unbalanced is SparkCash. Of course, we all knew that already so it's moot to even try to explain into any further details.

Second: With every new addition to the game, whether it be higher levelled maps, or lairs, or quest drops, or even quests themselves, the game changes in ways we never could have anticipated ('we' being any players involved in the game prior to said updates) so much so that many of us find ourselves kicking our own rears with comments like "Dang, I wish I had saved up XXX to make a killing!" or "WTH!!! If I were level XX I would SO have gone and farmed that stuff!1!"
In other words, those people who come into the game with these new additions don't know any different, so they take full advantage of the situation (like they should, since practically everyone plays to get ahead in their own ways) while the rest of us are left grumbling about how they have such an easy time with "it".

Third: When it comes to PVP... what's the point? To kill other players, right? Well, before griping about skills that you don't like being used on you, why don't you make a character that uses said skills and test out their limits. Trust me when I say that WE HAVE HEARD IT ALL ALREADY! I do believe in every Class Section in this forum there is at least one thread devoted to PVP. If you have a problem with a skill, go tell it there, but beware flammage for many have cried foul long before you ever showed up. Oh, and BAMF is gone, so forget any PVP bragging rights you wish you could have, they mopped the floor and left the building.

With the single exception of the Kron hack, I would say that Secret of the Solstice has developed somewhat smoothly. The community has grow steadily, so much that it seems with every players' retirement there are like two or three new people that come to replace them. Sure, I wish so much of the current game content was present in my own 'newb days', but that very fact makes me proud to say I have been around for so long and have seen so much change. And since this isn't a "remember when" thread, but rather a question of whether or not Solstice is failing, I'll keep away from such topics, but I would like to leave you with a single simple question to ponder on:

If the game never changed, would you still play it?
^.^

[hu_kitten]

Personally, I do not feel the solstice and community is failing in any way, it seems like they kind of overlook some issues such as glitch quests, classes who uses magic instead of attack or they are focusing on some new projects first. When I saw archer's damage on monster are over 1k, while Wizard's damage on monster are lower, I was thinking I might as well have an archer because I can get attack wings, pets to get that kind of damage. There are no items for magic users except for defense items. Although people are still selling very expensive, I feel the situation is getting better.

What I do not like is the SC store. Why must they separate items to 7 days and 30 days now? Separating them this way makes the list even longer and harder to browse through. Although it can be said I can just directly go into the sub groups, but what if I do not know which group? There may be complaints of people buying wrong items previously, but we should also look before buying, consumer awareness. The SC store is not really user-friendly and interactive to browse through. I guess they know what they are doing, and no matter what, people are still playing.

[wardomic]

Alot of issues have been overlooked, especially when it comes to the magic classes. With archers being able to hit so much faster and harder than wizards it's just so unfair for them. Outspark needs to get magic buff items into the sc store, fix in game items that only increase attack or add ones that increase magic, and why not increase the defence of monsters in the new maps a bit since magic isn't as effected by defence as physical attackers. I don't know exactly how it would effect damage done by each class, but as long as that change is kept to a minimal it will add up to help balance out the classes a bit. Oh yeah, wouldn't listing each item in the sc store, and when purchasing having the 7 day or 30 day option right before buying be better than the current set up of having it all just squished together next to each other?

[ffmasterxii]

Hmmm...there is alot of problems with SoS, mostly because of those bugs that show up EVERY time something new comes out. Now when the hosues come out, what are the new Bugs going to be?
The bugs should really be fixed before introducing a bunch of new Updates into the game. And I understand Acos wanting to have an Aoe skill. I mean, Most people that need a healer want a cleric and not an aco...They are a support character but it would be nice to have better attack skills than Illusion Quake, Oblivion, ghost steel, Which have cooldowns. But this is just me voicing out my opinions ;D

And then theres SC. It is one of the things that is keeping the game unbalanced.... For example, when the Marien server came out, I thought it would be more better since people would all start fresh, but most just bought Crazy exp boosts, buff items, and a bunch of other things. In only 2 weeks, there were already 3rd classes running around.
And Another thing I found is Unfairness to healers and Mages. I mean, we have and attack cowbell and Def...But no Int?
It would be much more fair if Healers and Mages also Had Items like we attack people have. Solstice isn't falling but, Many things could be improved to make it all better, The community is the best thing in the game and it's what keeps me here XD
We'll just have to wait and see what happens...

[poochyenarulez]

Hmmm...there is alot of problems with SoS, mostly because of those bugs that show up EVERY time something new comes out. Now when the hosues come out, what are the new Bugs going to be?
The bugs should really be fixed before introducing a bunch of new Updates into the game.
thats wat i said, but every one seemed to get mad at be for ruining the excitment of getting houses?..

[wardomic]

hmm.... true sc makes the game unbalanced, and bugs need to be taken care of before being introduced to us. Once more content and bugs have been added, i am curious to know how well an scl-ess server would stack up. Or sc limited. The game is meant to be playable without sc in the first place, it would allow people to really compare the strenghtys and weaknesses of classes without the biasedness(we need magic wings, magic pet buffs, magic etc for equality with the new stuff that's been added) All in all solstice isn't failing, it's just going crazy with the updates and bugs that go with, the mad must have attitude, and in adelines' case the xens instead of krons(how do people get so many xens in the first place :O? I have none)

[sedfvgt]

realeasing these new features in a rush is a stroke of genius

my reasons:

bad economy because of the kron loophole thingy is slowly getting help, by what ?..... pet items, common enuff to be farmed, rare enough to help xen prices lower

the housing feature will help promote player-player interaction instead of the usual player-mob interaction

bugs are generally alike in a lot of ways (that is what my computer genius friend told me), so this torrent of updates will allow whoever fixes bugs to fix multiple bugs in one fixing

and the updates are not overwhelming, it just seems like it after a long period of time when we had no updates of this magnitude

[firebladetwo]

i hope it does die it needs a quest tracker from it started and they still havent made 1 so i hope it does fall

[jrgoofy]

i hope it does die it needs a quest tracker from it started and they still havent made 1 so i hope it does fall

off topic: Can u explain what you mean? cause i cant figure it out

On topic: I dont think solstice is failing they do need to fix alot of bugs, but I'm glad that we got the new updates especially the wings and mount pets, cause now with the def wings there is a little more balance between the sc and none sc players and the mounts are just cool

[BellaAnimorum]

On topic: I dont think solstice is failing they do need to fix alot of bugs, but I'm glad that we got the new updates especially the wings and mount pets, cause now with the def wings there is a little more balance between the sc and none sc players and the mounts are just cool

I think you need to question yourself on one simple aspect of this comment:

Has anyone made wings or pet mounts or new accessories WITHOUT the aid of SparkCash, yet?

[catry]

I think you need to question yourself on one simple aspect of this comment:

Has anyone made wings or pet mounts or new accessories WITHOUT the aid of SparkCash, yet?

Me and Eri succeeded back to back on making wings with only the 5% chance.

[tazsbigtoy]

I think you need to question yourself on one simple aspect of this comment:

Has anyone made wings or pet mounts or new accessories WITHOUT the aid of SparkCash, yet?

I've made 2 pair of wings and 2 accessories without using spark cash. I wouldn't try enhancing wings or a pet without sparkcash though as I would hate to lose them. I lost count of the number of times I tried to make those wings.

[gryneth]

Quest points FTW: Make the events actual quests and let us earn points from them....random lucky balls with anything from sc to additional perma stat points so its not ALWAYS about grinding...Than fix the glitches >.>...Than houses? O.o

[unknownplaya]

u want to talk about unbalance the enhance for the neo class last only 1 min no mater the lvl it is at. WTH is that about. the disc class buffs last over 2mins and enhance is supposed to be a key part of our def.

[requiemofdecember]

If You Want To AoE, Go Disciple. Cleric Is A Support Character.
I know, Id just like to be able to farm stuff on my main and be able to solo if I want to. xD but Ive heard I havent gotten any of the good attacks yet either

[poochyenarulez]

wow, surpised how many threads have said something about cleric attack aoe~
anyways, plz post your feedback about cleric attack aoe here
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150391


seems like ever thread i go to know involves some1 saying something about it~

[jrgoofy]

I think you need to question yourself on one simple aspect of this comment:

Has anyone made wings or pet mounts or new accessories WITHOUT the aid of SparkCash, yet?

Their are some and even if no one made wings without sc, unlike sc items wings mounts and accesories can be traded in game. That way even an non sc user can get a mount. i know a non sc player will have to pay alot to get a mount or wings so some might say its still not balanced, but when i said balanced i was only talking about fighting ability.

[Orangeman21]

Its possible to make wings/ accesories without sc but I doubt anyone would risk enhancing pets/accs/wings without sc, with the difference of 10% max and the item being destoryed without sc and 60% with no risk of the item being destoryed that unbalanced. It should be like at least a 50% chance max without sc and maybe have like close to 100% success with sc.