Kq leechers

[AParadiseLost]

Do you report KQ LEechers?

What do you include in your report (Aside from the server, your character name, and the offender)?

Do you take a screen shot at the beginning?

Do you take a screen shot at every boss?

Do you take a screen shot at KKP?

Do you take a picture of the participant list?

[devin_nicolai]

If they stand at the beginning take a screenshot. All you need is their names.

[Fre_ak]

why report it? its not even against TOS o.o

all GM can do its to spawn them outside of kq

[devin_nicolai]

They can still be suspended from that kq.

[Fre_ak]

ohh they can be banned from kq? :O

nice. didnt know that O_O

[devin_nicolai]

For periods of time, Or for just that round.

[avion210]

If they stand at the beginning take a screenshot. All you need is their names.

Kind of, take a screenshot at the begining but you must wait about a minute or so, or else they may just have lag... of course by the time its ok to take the Screenshot your also leeching... :P

[Chaola]

lol as if there is a GM waiting for leeching reports *rolls eyes*

It's kinda useless to report them, they'll always be back for more.

[FlashBoom]

i leech pvp kq alot :3

[fireyair]

i leech pvp kq alot :3

You evil, evil soul. It buuuuuuuurns.



Peace:cool:

[mage_way14]

i leech pvp kq alot :3

Same. But, sometimes i run around and then eat dirt for 2 minutes

[FlashBoom]

You evil, evil soul. It buuuuuuuurns.



Peace:cool:

well i think every lv95 pvp kq has been leeched, i mean everyone know each other so we all just rest and let it give random place :3

but in other pvp kqs, when u die its best to stay dead for 2mins ne way, so u dont go below 5k

[c8itlyn]

Natures Protection was made for leechers ^^
So you can take the leechers fair share of mobs to him/her..... all at once.
My god do I hate leechers. They are the scum of Fiesta (along with KSers and drop stealers). I dont mind the lower levels hanging back if they get 1hit ko because at least they have tried and found out that they get 1hit ko. But those that come into a KQ and just shroom in the corner or click follow on someone really grind my gears /rant

[WolfAngel9414]

I hate leechers too. You're working for someone else's reward; not fun at all. There's a guy who leeches Spider almost every single time. He's there at his computer, because he moves and gets up when he dies; but he never responds when we threaten to SS & get him banned. It's repulsive :c Some people are less than scum.

[ahtai]

I think leacher are at least better than the negative comment you hear in KQ.

"Oh no, we are going to fail"
"I will heal those stand still and fight" Yet she never heal
"It's too early to run" Yet nobody is taking aggro at all

I hate those stand around and put people down for their affort but stand and chat without putting any effort on their own. Leacher at least is silent.

[WolfAngel9414]

I wish there was someone monitoring KQs from time to time..If someone is being negative and not helping, bam, gone, if someone is leeching, they're banned from the KQ.

Problems solved o-o

[c8itlyn]

I think leacher are at least better than the negative comment you hear in KQ.

"Oh no, we are going to fail"
"I will heal those stand still and fight" Yet she never heal
"It's too early to run" Yet nobody is taking aggro at all

I hate those stand around and put people down for their affort but stand and chat without putting any effort on their own. Leacher at least is silent.

Yeah there's a lot of that at the moment. It's sad really. I was in Robo on my archer the other day and a cleric shouted that she wouldn't heal or rev anyone who was being a coward by not attacking Robo. Basically if you were a runner or were sniping the Vivis and Archers from the runners you were a coward >< and even after she said that, the fighters who were trying to tank Robo were still having to scream for heals because she was too busy typing.

Yeah at least with a leecher they are there because they think the KQ will be a success unlike those who start shouting that it will be a fail.

Also in Honeying today on my archer no one was mobbing so I started multi shotting mobs and bringing them to everyone to force them to mob and a fighter started shouting at me saying you will make us fail. Called me a dumb *** archer (even though, and I'm sure most on the forums will agree, I was in the right to force the mobbing cos Honeying is a guaranteed fail without it). Thats not going to help either is it.
Insulters, naysayers and leechers are unbearable in a KQ. WE CAN DO WITHOUT YOUS

[fxarch]

I screenshot, tell the leeches that unless the come do the kq I'll report at the end of it. If they haven't helped I report, afaik I've gotten 5-6 people temp bans.

[c8itlyn]

I screenshot, tell the leeches that unless the come do the kq I'll report at the end of it. If they haven't helped I report, afaik I've gotten 5-6 people temp bans.

Yaaay the system works ^^

[archaedius]

I screenshot, tell the leeches that unless the come do the kq I'll report at the end of it. If they haven't helped I report, afaik I've gotten 5-6 people temp bans.

*e-pounces*
Nammy Knickers!
<3

Yesh, same ^^ I'll just..kinda..tell them to get thier *** in gear and help :)

[wintergal]

suddenly it seems like even a fart is against TOS now. every little thing that annoys, trot out the TOS.

[oakrivermark]

KQ leechers are a part of the game, unfortunately(probably turn into PK'ers), get over it. Sometimes you get an awesome KQ party, sometimes not, and sometimes the person on the other end of the keyboard just might be timid, and not know what to do.

Also, if you believe, you have some one in your party who is leeching, just quit party and reform without them. They can't leech exp. if not in a party, I quess they would still get the chest though, oh well(heavy sigh).

[yourmojo]

That's why I liked robo KQ...leechers got owned. Spider too if things get crazy.

[ras-blackfire]

i always say
"what if the is an emergensie and u need to afk? ;l thats more importend then a KQ ._. like ewhat if my mom is dying? >_> u would go afk to! D:"
but i barly leech... >_> only if im very bored and doing other stuff DX

[FlashBoom]

i have to admit i have fallen asleep during a kq or 2 b4 :3

*off topic 1k posts yay me*

[skysparkle]

hmm ive leached spider well more like thrown a paddy because i didnt get a cleric in my pty when there were 3 clerics and my archer was high 60's kept gettin agro and dying so i shroomed for the rest of it as i was down to my last life......

hmm and another time my archer was 70 i grabbed a ton of mobs got poisoned and was pot/stone like mad thinking whats my cleric doing and he says afk gonna go get some icecream >.< so i quit the pty and shroomed .....funnily everyone else quit his pty joined mine and we ran all the mobs without a cleric ^^ though it did take us till about 3 mins left to kill the last gravrobber

[drigr_x]

I think KQ's need to spawn mobs towards the beginning of the KQ when you are like half way through the timer. BOOM HEADSHOT to the leechers.

[ras-blackfire]

I think KQ's need to spawn mobs towards the beginning of the KQ when you are like half way through the timer. BOOM HEADSHOT to the leechers.

they will just walk somewhere else ;D and fail then XD

[AParadiseLost]

This is how I define Leeching :

Joining a KQ with or without the intent of not participating for the majority of possible opportunities due to personal choice, not game play limitations.

So does anyone know how to actually "report" someone for leeching?

I understand that support.outspark.com >>>> contact a CSR >>>> attatch screen shots, but screen shots of what?

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Side note - since OS lowered the KQ recruit time again, leechers hold even more power. I can't join the next KKP once it has been established people are leeching.

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I screenshot, tell the leeches that unless the come do the kq I'll report at the end of it. If they haven't helped I report, afaik I've gotten 5-6 people temp bans.
@fxarch What are you screenshotting? The spawn? People who have shroomed at spawn? How do you know they received temporary bans, Outspark has stated that they do not share the punishments nor who was punished.

suddenly it seems like even a fart is against TOS now. every little thing that annoys, trot out the TOS.

@wintergal.
Are you saying that leeching is OK? I don't think it is OK in the interests of Outspark and the other participants, just for the leecher.

Speaking bluntly, there are plenty of FAIL people, CL's included, who come in the forums stroking their egos who demand that the consumers profer solutions, or alter their criticisms to be "constructive". As opposed to, we hear your complaints, and will pass it on, as well as figure out our own solution. The best is, when one is told "it is easier said than done". Of course that is true, what is your point? And in case my point isn't apparent, when the customers have an issue with something, either FIX it, WORK on it, or ADVISE that you WONT. JUST COMMUNICATE. Don't dismiss responsibility by asking for the solution from the customer, for delicate words, or for the customer to "take a look at himself/his community and ask himself, who is really at fault."

Outspark partially sells their uniqueness compared to other MMORPGS with their Kingdom Quests. Leechers have been around for a long time. If enough people realize that leeching KQ's offers no punishment from OS, more and more people will leech, or attempt to, leaving the Kingdom Quests a toss up between individuals who leech all the time, part time, or not at all.

And when I use my fighter, I am almost always the Tank. How do I take screen shots of leechers? Is it fair to me, the clerics, the damage dealers, the other tanks to be participating, burning more stones/pots/scrolls so that everyone gets rewarded? It is not uncommon, speaking specifically of KKP, to have at least half of the participants leeching.

Please respond, because if I have your comment pegged correctly, you think leeching is OK. And I want to know how you can think that. Is it a conditional OK? Are you saying that when someone needs to go the restroom/grab a drink/go afk to answer phone that it is OK? Or are you saying it is OK to log on to 3 accounts, and go AFK on all three accounts after the first few minutes, once you have found a proper hiding spot?

[magemaree]

I have a problem with leechers too. But people also get funny about the whole concept. I have a friend that I frequently party with whose KQ loads REALLY slowly - so a lot of times I am waiting for her in the beginning. We are not leeching - and it is not by choice that I am there. It is merely because I don't want her to run KQ mobs alone and it can sometimes take her minutes to get into kq.
I once also had an unexpected problem come up with my 4 year old - ran to computer afterward and caught up with some difficulty to KQ for last third. I am glad I did since there was only one other pally but other KQers were screaming at me for leeching. I was thinking - if I was leeching - would have stayed in front - not killed myself trying to catch up. But - if I am typing - hard to heal. Did try to explain briefly. But sometimes real life does happen.
So while you do get people - way too many who take advantage of the system - there are sometimes reasons that people join late or look like they are leeching.

[zephyr_wind]

I have a problem with leechers too. But people also get funny about the whole concept. I have a friend that I frequently party with whose KQ loads REALLY slowly - so a lot of times I am waiting for her in the beginning. We are not leeching - and it is not by choice that I am there. It is merely because I don't want her to run KQ mobs alone and it can sometimes take her minutes to get into kq.
I once also had an unexpected problem come up with my 4 year old - ran to computer afterward and caught up with some difficulty to KQ for last third. I am glad I did since there was only one other pally but other KQers were screaming at me for leeching. I was thinking - if I was leeching - would have stayed in front - not killed myself trying to catch up. But - if I am typing - hard to heal. Did try to explain briefly. But sometimes real life does happen.
So while you do get people - way too many who take advantage of the system - there are sometimes reasons that people join late or look like they are leeching.

Something similar happened to me the other day. We got all the way to KKP and we were fighting it, my mom called me to do something and I didn't say brb or anything just got up to see what she wanted. I'll admit it took a lot longer than I thought, but anyway when I got back I found everyone debating whether to kick me from the party and someone said they'd report me for leeching. Needless to say I gave everyone earful. I don't like when people leech intentionally, but of course things happen. Real life happens.

[irix33]

Well, if you have done enough KQs, especially kkp, you will have a reputation with fellow players in KKP and if you usually don't leech, people will give you the benefit of the doubt if something rl happened and you need to afk a while.

Similarly, you will learn of certain players who constantly leech in kkp. Almost every single time they join. These are the players I have problems with. They intentionally join the kq to leech. Worse still, they got into 2 or 3 of their accounts to join the kq and leech together. That to me is despicable.

I have a list of players who leeches 80% or more of the time in kkp and if i see a few of them in one kkp, I will not join that kkp. That's how i 'combat' leechers. :D

[magemaree]

Well, if you have done enough KQs, especially kkp, you will have a reputation with fellow players in KKP and if you usually don't leech, people will give you the benefit of the doubt if something rl happened and you need to afk a while.

Similarly, you will learn of certain players who constantly leech in kkp. Almost every single time they join. These are the players I have problems with. They intentionally join the kq to leech. Worse still, they got into 2 or 3 of their accounts to join the kq and leech together. That to me is despicable.

I have a list of players who leeches 80% or more of the time in kkp and if i see a few of them in one kkp, I will not join that kkp. That's how i 'combat' leechers. :D

That is only the case if you play regularly on the same character at the same time periods. Also - people do graduate out and new people come in...

I actually do play mostly on one character and have been in KKP frequently (when my main was still 7x) enough that I would think most people would know I don't leech - but still have wound up in KKPs where I didn't know anybody.

I am not particularly concerned about the past - more pointing out that while some people do leech - sometimes you might give people the benefit of the doubt if you don't know. And keep in mind for some people KQs do load extremely slowly...

[huntmasteravatar]

If people SS/report me cause I'm standing at the beginning waiting for the stupid screen to load, I would LOL. You have to give us low ram users time to load up.

Also don't forget that for some of us, pressing "Enter" to chat "I need a party please" causes lag, sometimes serious lag. So thats another 10-30 seconds.

I have 512 ram, so it loads slower than normal, normally people are already killing monsters when I can move.


Suggestion: For those of you with this above problem!

Before the KQ starts, Press U? To view the world map. After the loading screen is done and you see the world map again, exit the world map. I'v been doing this for awhile now and it seems to remove almost all the lag during loading. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but its a good portion of the time.;)


PS2: I'v noticed mages at higher levels tend to leech more than anyone as they are trying to save stones/potions. They cast a spell here and there but ultimately they just stand there, playing with their staff.:p

I'v also noticed that players who are all scrolled up never seem to leech.:)

I leech on MARA KQ during boss fights until level 20 because I never get good heals and I tend to die with 1-2 hits from bosses and the failure rate is so high in those KQ's that I'm not willing to waste scrolls. I attack everything that ISNT RED. I leave everything that is red for the higher levels. Thats not leeching though, thats knowing my limits.

"I'm all scrolled up and buffed! My mage is ready to rock! Oops, a megaton hit me, bye bye scrolls and buffs.:D

Oh, and Rev is a joke. Almost no one rev's anyone that is not needed. KQ party leaders just scream " CLERICS HEAL ONLY!" and no rev's for anyone except tankers and healers.

PS: Whenever a clanker gets 1 hit KO'd by mara, I lol. So thanks!