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ialexander
05-26-2009, 06:53 PM
Ok, so I have a few things that I wanted to say or open for discussion and I didn't want to post a bunch of threads so here goes.

1) Plvling for CS Items?
I overheard a discussion while in Uruga about it not being against the ToS to plvl characters in exchange for CS items. If this is allowable then why isn't buying CS items for in game money allowable since technically the buyer of said items will still have to buy more spark cash for themself anyway (not damaging profits at all) there are several games that have allowed this already. I think it's called Ether Saga or something but they allow and even have a system set up to trade in game currency for CS currency. I think that it's a really good idea and could actually reduce the stress of CSRs having to deal with something like that as opposed to harassment, hacking etc. issues.

2) Berating new players for asking questions?
We were all new and regardless of what the pompous "experienced" players have to say game guides and forum threads DO NOT contain all the answers. As Rodney King put it, "Why can't we all just get along?" If a new player asks an obvious questiong to YOU your first instinct should be to help that player any way possible. Everyone was a noob at one point regardless of what they claim and they asked silly questions too. So here's an idea, instead of wasting your time and their time help them.

3) Gang PK!
Ok, honestly if you can't kill someone by yourself and you're starting trouble in a PvP area such as the abyss or FBZ don't get your friends to fight your battles for you, you're going to look weaker than you already are. Also, if you need charms and the plethora of other CS items to just survive in PvP maybe you should develop some actual gaming skills before you claim dominance over a non-cs user because odds are if you were on a level playing field they would mop the floor with your toon's face.

4) Shout Convos!
Regardless of how egocentric some players might be, the whole world does not want to know what you and your friend or random talking partner have to talk about. It's even more distracting than someone spam begging for buffs in Elderine. Then there are the children who mutilate the english language then get tough with a keyboard when what should be happening is their parents should slap them in their smart mouth and take away their computer privvys :).

5) This topic is for fun!
It's not something to cry about or complain about, it's something to read and think about and laugh about. Now I'm almost positive at least one person is going to get a hair in their eye about something and complain. And to those people I say, "Lighten up, it's a game."

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 06:55 PM
Yeah i agree with the spark cash thing ;o

ialexander
05-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Woot thank you :D

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 06:59 PM
._. .. I do that shout thing...and it's not for attention..I just saw them shout, so I answered...there are usually several people in on the chat...isn't that what shouts for? ;x group chats? I'm not going to party every random elderine-goer .. :S

ialexander
05-26-2009, 07:01 PM
Whispering works wonders, you should try it ;)

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:05 PM
Oh yes I'm going to whisper seven different people for a conversation that will only last maybe 5 minutes. Try filtering shout, it works wonders.

ialexander
05-26-2009, 07:07 PM
It's possible considering I do it all the time out of respect for my fellow players. Maybe you should be considerate and think about others now wanting to have to filter out shout and miss and item for sale so you can have a "fiesta social life". By the way, get the hair out of your eye ;)

ialexander
05-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Number 5 ftw, it always happens without fail!

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:09 PM
So shout is only for sales? Really now? I'm sorry I have a social life. There are a lot of people who enjoy using shout to talk to multiple people at once. There's always the sale spam anyway, can't you just ignore it? Let people use shout the way it was supposed to be used. I suppose your next argument will be having a conversation in normal chat near Shutian? If it's just for fun why'd you post it at all? e.e

ialexander
05-26-2009, 07:11 PM
Fiesta doesn't count as a social life by any stretch :P

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:13 PM
Gang PKing is ridiculous, I agree with you there.

I really don't understand why gifting for in game money is illegal either. OS still gets their money; if you wanna waste RL cash for IG cash be my guest.

Berating noobs is also a childish maneuver to make yourself feel better. We all did something stupid when we started (e.g. having a convo with a spammer, not knowing what skills are)

But including #5 defeats the purpose of this thread at all. If you're going to voice your opinion about something, you're going to get someone else's opinion in response; whether it be a good or bad one. You were more or less asking for it.

We're all playing the same game and if I want to talk to someone, it's basically the same as talking to a RL friend on MSN. You're still socializing.

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Well for some people it does >.>

Edit: God bless Wolfangel xD

ialexander
05-26-2009, 07:16 PM
No, I did say it was for fun and to think about. No where did I say in number five that I wanted to hear people complain about anything I said. I did say that it was for laughs and contemplation. While everyone is contemplating these things listen to this song :P

[link removed]

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:22 PM
It's possible considering I do it all the time out of respect for my fellow players. Maybe you should be considerate and think about others now wanting to have to filter out shout and miss and item for sale so you can have a "fiesta social life".By the way, get the hair out of your eye ;)

I'm having a friendly debate with you. Arguing my point without going into childish insults/etc is the equivalent of a debate is it not? Asking me to "get the hair out of my eye" is basically telling me to shut up and go on my merry way because this is "just for fun" and I'm "complaining". Clarify if this is not what you meant. I'm not here to flame.

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:27 PM
Well for some people it does >.>

Edit: God bless Wolfangel xD

Sorry for double post. o.o what did I do? lmao

dualpsyche
05-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Then filter the shout chat and quit complaining? They're allowed to have shout convo's all day long if they feel like it. So long as it isn't the same set of lines every .5 seconds it isn't spam.

Deal with it.

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:33 PM
*huggles dualpsyche* Thank you o-o I was beginning to wonder if I was insane.

dualpsyche
05-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Not to mention, people being teamed in GW,s FBZs, or Abyss maps. Though unfair, is totally legal. There is no "gaming skills" in fiesta's PvP, it's who has the bigger wallet to blow on a F2P game. You should know this by now.

Complaining in a GW if you get teamed, doesn't make them look weak.

It makes you look stupid.

dansk990
05-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Ok, so I have a few things that I wanted to say or open for discussion and I didn't want to post a bunch of threads so here goes.

1) Plvling for CS Items?
I overheard a discussion while in Uruga about it not being against the ToS to plvl characters in exchange for CS items. If this is allowable then why isn't buying CS items for in game money allowable since technically the buyer of said items will still have to buy more spark cash for themself anyway (not damaging profits at all) there are several games that have allowed this already. I think it's called Ether Saga or something but they allow and even have a system set up to trade in game currency for CS currency. I think that it's a really good idea and could actually reduce the stress of CSRs having to deal with something like that as opposed to harassment, hacking etc. issues.

That would be interesting. Would definitely help the economy imo. Or at least those that don't or can't spend real money on SC.

2) Berating new players for asking questions?
We were all new and regardless of what the pompous "experienced" players have to say game guides and forum threads DO NOT contain all the answers. As Rodney King put it, "Why can't we all just get along?" If a new player asks an obvious questiong to YOU your first instinct should be to help that player any way possible. Everyone was a noob at one point regardless of what they claim and they asked silly questions too. So here's an idea, instead of wasting your time and their time help them.

Nubs are never fun to deal with because you always run the risk of finding that one thats like "boof plox" or "u r high lvl. u have stuff to give?". Also, another thing to consider is, some people may have made a new character to take advantage of some nice high level player, and "take his stuff and ditch 'em". So some people's attitude towards that is understandable.

3) Gang PK!
Ok, honestly if you can't kill someone by yourself and you're starting trouble in a PvP area such as the abyss or FBZ don't get your friends to fight your battles for you, you're going to look weaker than you already are. Also, if you need charms and the plethora of other CS items to just survive in PvP maybe you should develop some actual gaming skills before you claim dominance over a non-cs user because odds are if you were on a level playing field they would mop the floor with your toon's face.

I dont PvP so I dont care.

4) Shout Convos!
Regardless of how egocentric some players might be, the whole world does not want to know what you and your friend or random talking partner have to talk about. It's even more distracting than someone spam begging for buffs in Elderine. Then there are the children who mutilate the english language then get tough with a keyboard when what should be happening is their parents should slap them in their smart mouth and take away their computer privvys :).

I was in one of those the other day. If it really bugs you that much, block them. As you stated, "Lighten up, it's a game." Let people do what they want in a game. And a Shout Convo isn't really that bad. I mean i understand someone spamming "BOOF PLOX" and then the kids (and there are ALOT OF YOU) that can't type the english language to save their lives, but like i said, If it bugs you that much, block them.

5) This topic is for fun!
It's not something to cry about or complain about, it's something to read and think about and laugh about. Now I'm almost positive at least one person is going to get a hair in their eye about something and complain. And to those people I say, "Lighten up, it's a game."

Yeah this isn't going to happen. Someone's going to get miffed and "hurrdurrcomlpainzzzz" and just saying "don't" won't stop it. Not even close.

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 07:38 PM
Sorry for double post. o.o what did I do? lmao

lolz idk,when i get bored i can be weird xD

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:42 PM
o_o Oh. Well I don't feel special now D:

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Well actully that was a random answer.Well i like how you stood up to the guy,so yeah your special actully,but to tell you the truth im 100% weird xD

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:48 PM
*pat pat* it's okay. I already ran into you a few times on Teva ;.; But thank joo :3

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 07:50 PM
Lol you did,i don't remember.I have a bad memory ;_;

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:51 PM
I didn't talk to you or anything ._. I was just present :3

*waits for the OP to answer meh*

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 07:53 PM
Lol okay.
I uselly stalk a lot of people i just see...lol yeah im that weird xD

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 07:56 PM
I ISH lvl 36 >:O and i ish reading teh fojums >:O

Failsauce. But it was kinda cute the way you spelled "forums" o-o

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 08:02 PM
Lol i did on porpuse xD

See i fail in grammer ;_;

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 08:06 PM
Indeed you do. Grammar*

Guess what Agar?

We're socializing. Isn't that amazing?

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 08:10 PM
Yes,yes it is. xD

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 08:15 PM
But joo are not real. *pets joor head* Goodbye my pixelated non-socializing partner D: I have to abuse allis for her signature request ;.; add me in game or something. At least my OS page ;D for stalki--contact purposes :3

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 08:20 PM
Lmao.Sure im adding u right now..Lol your pretty funny and yeah i need my sig ready too >:3

WolfAngel9414
05-26-2009, 08:23 PM
Ish considering opening a siggy shoppy x.x I might make room for you ;/ Goodnight deary, I lied, allis is nowhere to be found, so I'm going to sleep :3 ♥

thdragon203
05-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Thanks and need to sleep nao :_: <--lol weird smiley xP

Cya~~~ and we gotta stop spamming this topic xD

allyyCORE
05-26-2009, 08:45 PM
Ok, so I have a few things that I wanted to say or open for discussion and I didn't want to post a bunch of threads so here goes.

1) Plvling for CS Items?
I overheard a discussion while in Uruga about it not being against the ToS to plvl characters in exchange for CS items. If this is allowable then why isn't buying CS items for in game money allowable since technically the buyer of said items will still have to buy more spark cash for themself anyway (not damaging profits at all) there are several games that have allowed this already. I think it's called Ether Saga or something but they allow and even have a system set up to trade in game currency for CS currency. I think that it's a really good idea and could actually reduce the stress of CSRs having to deal with something like that as opposed to harassment, hacking etc. issues.

2) Berating new players for asking questions?
We were all new and regardless of what the pompous "experienced" players have to say game guides and forum threads DO NOT contain all the answers. As Rodney King put it, "Why can't we all just get along?" If a new player asks an obvious questiong to YOU your first instinct should be to help that player any way possible. Everyone was a noob at one point regardless of what they claim and they asked silly questions too. So here's an idea, instead of wasting your time and their time help them.

3) Gang PK!
Ok, honestly if you can't kill someone by yourself and you're starting trouble in a PvP area such as the abyss or FBZ don't get your friends to fight your battles for you, you're going to look weaker than you already are. Also, if you need charms and the plethora of other CS items to just survive in PvP maybe you should develop some actual gaming skills before you claim dominance over a non-cs user because odds are if you were on a level playing field they would mop the floor with your toon's face.

4) Shout Convos!
Regardless of how egocentric some players might be, the whole world does not want to know what you and your friend or random talking partner have to talk about. It's even more distracting than someone spam begging for buffs in Elderine. Then there are the children who mutilate the english language then get tough with a keyboard when what should be happening is their parents should slap them in their smart mouth and take away their computer privvys :).

5) This topic is for fun!
It's not something to cry about or complain about, it's something to read and think about and laugh about. Now I'm almost positive at least one person is going to get a hair in their eye about something and complain. And to those people I say, "Lighten up, it's a game."

so if this topic is for fun,
then i guess that means we can all just ignore the first 4 concerns you are voicing, right?

funny that you'd say it's a game but you're the one complaining about it lol

now that's something to think about ;o

ialexander
05-26-2009, 11:15 PM
I leave to go actually play the game and you guys just can't seem to drop it and instead flame someone instead of just letting it be like a mature individual. That's sad for you three that are just dying to start more and more drama. I wasn't complaining, I was stating facts :) It's a shame you all can't be mature. Oh well, I guess that is too much to ask for from people who obviously have too much time on their hands to spend on a single forum thread repeatedly making smart little remarks about something someone says. Well guess what? Regardless of what you guys say or what your personal preference is about stuff, I still don't care and I couldn't care less if you think I'm right or not. My opinion is mine and your's is your's. Here's an idea just for giggles, grow up and move on. Nobody asked you to agree with me, nobody even asked you to read and just because you don't agree doesn't give you warrant to act like a fool (which you all do very well I might add). You may now continue to act like children :D

green-day
05-26-2009, 11:27 PM
i haven't read that post too much words ... so idk what to say lol

dualpsyche
05-26-2009, 11:34 PM
In a nutshell;

The OP is whining.

We stated our opinions in contrast to the OP's.

The OP is now saying he/she doesn't care about anyone's opinions but his or her own.

Thus making the entire creation of this thread useless, as it is spam, for one person to whine gripe and complain, and expect no recourse.

The OP is now using schoolyard level insults to make us feel bad, and hiding behind a wall of text to look retro.

You're caught up.

ialexander
05-26-2009, 11:50 PM
In a nutshell;

The OP is whining.

We stated our opinions in contrast to the OP's.

The OP is now saying he/she doesn't care about anyone's opinions but his or her own.

Thus making the entire creation of this thread useless, as it is spam, for one person to whine gripe and complain, and expect no recourse.

The OP is now using schoolyard level insults to make us feel bad, and hiding behind a wall of text to look retro.

You're caught up.

It must be a lot of work being so flawless and "informed" about people you know nothing about. If you continue to flame this thread I will be in contact with a CSR as it is against the ToS and it's just an immature thing to do. You can continue to attempt to insult and belittle me but until you're smart enough to engage in a two-sided conversation instead of getting a bunch of buddies together to start high school drama then do not post again. You could better use your time reading, or coming up with something intelligent to say. You know, using your brain.

politoad
05-26-2009, 11:52 PM
People shouting in uru,roumen r eldy for 5 mins isnt gonna blow up the world >.>

charmle
05-26-2009, 11:53 PM
I leave to go actually play the game and you guys just can't seem to drop it and instead flame someone instead of just letting it be like a mature individual. That's sad for you three that are just dying to start more and more drama. I wasn't complaining, I was stating facts :) It's a shame you all can't be mature. Oh well, I guess that is too much to ask for from people who obviously have too much time on their hands to spend on a single forum thread repeatedly making smart little remarks about something someone says. Well guess what? Regardless of what you guys say or what your personal preference is about stuff, I still don't care and I couldn't care less if you think I'm right or not. My opinion is mine and your's is your's. Here's an idea just for giggles, grow up and move on. Nobody asked you to agree with me, nobody even asked you to read and just because you don't agree doesn't give you warrant to act like a fool (which you all do very well I might add). You may now continue to act like children :D
To me it looks like you wanted evryone to read this or you wouldn't have posted it!
Am I not right???...If you really didn't want this you should have wrote it in your diary! o.o

Midnight_Emeralds
05-26-2009, 11:53 PM
Ok, so I have a few things that I wanted to say or open for discussion and I didn't want to post a bunch of threads so here goes.

1) Plvling for CS Items?
I overheard a discussion while in Uruga about it not being against the ToS to plvl characters in exchange for CS items. If this is allowable then why isn't buying CS items for in game money allowable since technically the buyer of said items will still have to buy more spark cash for themself anyway (not damaging profits at all) there are several games that have allowed this already. I think it's called Ether Saga or something but they allow and even have a system set up to trade in game currency for CS currency. I think that it's a really good idea and could actually reduce the stress of CSRs having to deal with something like that as opposed to harassment, hacking etc. issues.
Lets end this debate and buy ourselves some SC eh? ;)

2) Berating new players for asking questions?
We were all new and regardless of what the pompous "experienced" players have to say game guides and forum threads DO NOT contain all the answers. As Rodney King put it, "Why can't we all just get along?" If a new player asks an obvious questiong to YOU your first instinct should be to help that player any way possible. Everyone was a noob at one point regardless of what they claim and they asked silly questions too. So here's an idea, instead of wasting your time and their time help them.LMFAO. This made me lol. I mean seriously. The questions they tend to ask are dumb. And most of us do help out with questions and junk. But honestly Fiesta isn't all that hard to figure out. I mean seriously come on. If I could figure it out randomly running through the game you guys can too.

3) Gang PK!
Ok, honestly if you can't kill someone by yourself and you're starting trouble in a PvP area such as the abyss or FBZ don't get your friends to fight your battles for you, you're going to look weaker than you already are. Also, if you need charms and the plethora of other CS items to just survive in PvP maybe you should develop some actual gaming skills before you claim dominance over a non-cs user because odds are if you were on a level playing field they would mop the floor with your toon's face.Why is this even a complaint? lmfao. Junk happens. Deal with it. It's PvP. You don't like how people act get out. Simple. (:

4) Shout Convos!
Regardless of how egocentric some players might be, the whole world does not want to know what you and your friend or random talking partner have to talk about. It's even more distracting than someone spam begging for buffs in Elderine. Then there are the children who mutilate the english language then get tough with a keyboard when what should be happening is their parents should slap them in their smart mouth and take away their computer privvys :).This made me lol too. You don't like shout chat? Well. No one really cares? If people want to talk there they can. Just ignore all the useless bits and get over it. There is actual titles for shouting btw ;) So yeah. Shout is like any other chat. You can't put restrictions on it because you don't like other peoples convos. LOL. I have convos in shout all the time. I liek people in mah buiznaz. ;D

5) This topic is for fun!
It's not something to cry about or complain about, it's something to read and think about and laugh about. Now I'm almost positive at least one person is going to get a hair in their eye about something and complain. And to those people I say, "Lighten up, it's a game."
And to finish this off. You are complaining. And lmfao @ it's just a game part. I may sound stupid for saying this. But hell. It's not just a game. You are dealing with real people here. It's an MMO. You aren't playing with bots. Hell, people's emotions do get involved. LOL. If they didn't there wouldn't be half as much drama in fiesta as there is. People get angry, frustrated, sad, and lots of other things. This is gonna sound totally stupid, but then again it's me, so it's bound to sound stupid anyways. LOL. You wouldn't believe how many times I've cried 'cause of what happens in game. And most of it over pointless stuff. (:



And yeah this post basically had no point but it relieved my boredom. ahaha. And most people won't read this anyway so it doesn't matter.
Have fun in Fiesta guys ;)

charmle
05-26-2009, 11:57 PM
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="green"]This made me lol too. You don't like shout chat? Well. No one really cares? If people want to talk there they can. Just ignore all the useless
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="green"]And to finish this off. You are complaining. And lmfao @ it's just a game part. I may sound stupid for saying this. But hell. It's not just a game. You are dealing with real people here. It's an MMO. You aren't playing with bots. Hell, people's emotions do get involved. LOL. If they didn't there wouldn't be half as much drama in fiesta as there is. People get angry, frustrated, sad, and lots of other things. This is gonna sound totally stupid, but then again it's me, so it's bound to sound stupid anyways. LOL. You wouldn't believe how many times I've cried 'cause of what happens in game. And most of it over pointless stuff. (:




Me too...more than once my self! o.o (cried, laughed, got mad and upset ) lol

ialexander
05-27-2009, 12:02 AM
Lets end this debate and buy ourselves some SC eh? ;)

LMFAO. This made me lol. I mean seriously. The questions they tend to ask are dumb. And most of us do help out with questions and junk. But honestly Fiesta isn't all that hard to figure out. I mean seriously come on. If I could figure it out randomly running through the game you guys can too.

Why is this even a complaint? lmfao. Junk happens. Deal with it. It's PvP. You don't like how people act get out. Simple. (:

This made me lol too. You don't like shout chat? Well. No one really cares? If people want to talk there they can. Just ignore all the useless bits and get over it. There is actual titles for shouting btw ;) So yeah. Shout is like any other chat. You can't put restrictions on it because you don't like other peoples convos. LOL. I have convos in shout all the time. I liek people in mah buiznaz. ;D


And to finish this off. You are complaining. And lmfao @ it's just a game part. I may sound stupid for saying this. But hell. It's not just a game. You are dealing with real people here. It's an MMO. You aren't playing with bots. Hell, people's emotions do get involved. LOL. If they didn't there wouldn't be half as much drama in fiesta as there is. People get angry, frustrated, sad, and lots of other things. This is gonna sound totally stupid, but then again it's me, so it's bound to sound stupid anyways. LOL. You wouldn't believe how many times I've cried 'cause of what happens in game. And most of it over pointless stuff. (:



And yeah this post basically had no point but it relieved my boredom. ahaha. And most people won't read this anyway so it doesn't matter.
Have fun in Fiesta guys ;)

Haha, everyone says I'm complaing when they're the one's complaing about what I've observed. How hypocritical of you :) Ok, I'm done with this thread :) It appears the mental faculties of the participants are even lower than I expected. Have a good one guys and good luck making it with your "highly evolved" attitudes :)

Midnight_Emeralds
05-27-2009, 12:04 AM
Haha, everyone says I'm complaing when they're the one's complaing about what I've observed. How hypocritical of you :) Ok, I'm done with this thread :) It appears the mental faculties of the participants are even lower than I expected. Have a good one guys and good luck making it with your "highly evolved" attitudes :)

Oh. Did I fail to mention I am a hypocrite? Thanks for reminding me to state the obvious.
And I do quite like my "Highly Evolved" 'tude. I think it makes me special ;)

charmle
05-27-2009, 12:05 AM
Haha, everyone says I'm complaing when they're the one's complaing about what I've observed. How hypocritical of you :) Ok, I'm done with this thread :) It appears the mental faculties of the participants are even lower than I expected. Have a good one guys and good luck making it with your "highly evolved" attitudes :)
ROFLMAO....Looks who's talking! o.o You keep coming back to see what else has been said!

charmle
05-27-2009, 12:08 AM
[ Thanks for reminding me to state the obvious.
And I do quite like my "Highly Evolved" 'tude. I think it makes me special ;)[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE]

LOLZ I <3 you XD

dansk990
05-27-2009, 12:09 AM
Haha, everyone says I'm complaing when they're the one's complaing about what I've observed. How hypocritical of you :) Ok, I'm done with this thread :) It appears the mental faculties of the participants are even lower than I expected. Have a good one guys and good luck making it with your "highly evolved" attitudes :)


...............But you are complaining. While we are too, you are the one that started a thread to COMPLAIN about things you have "observed"

hurrrr

Midnight_Emeralds
05-27-2009, 12:12 AM
LOLZ I <3 you XD

Lol <3lalala

WolfAngel9414
05-27-2009, 08:18 AM
Ok..so you tell us about your "observations" that of which doubles back to be criticism of others gaming styles and online social habits. You are calling us immature for using in game functions in a completely legal fashion, thus making you the flamer. You are threatening us with the involvement of a CSR because we do not agree with you and we're flaming? If I'm not mistaken, you were the one who started the "smart" remarks when I voiced that I used shout in the manner you disagreed with. We are not immature in any way concerning this topic. Perhaps you should improve your argument. Insulting our intelligence for merely disagreeing and saying as such does nothing but make you look childish. I'm certainly willing to be open minded if you would elevate yourself above attempting to degrade anyone who opposes you.

dansk990
05-27-2009, 08:54 AM
This is an awful thread.

Fre_ak
05-27-2009, 09:13 AM
this is an awful thread.
this...is...tevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!@#$%^&*

=.=

thdragon203
05-27-2009, 09:27 AM
This...Is...Agaaaaaaaar!@#%^&*


=.=