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Deedolith
10-31-2007, 04:37 PM
There are a couple of things I can' understand about playing mages (mine is 40, killing goblins in VT since 39).
I keep hearing mages dies a lot, mages are costly, mages have downtime ect ect ect .... <insert nice complain here>
So, as I have no troubles playing mine (learnt the hard way how and what to kill), I'm curious to listen how do you play your mage when soloing ?
Do you stand toes to toes spaming MM(1) till the mob (or you) is dead ?
Do you use a potion every time your SP or HP drop below 1/3 ?
If that's the case, that's plain wrong IMO.

When soloing, I'm using my skills to their max lvl, I kite a lot, and I mainly resplenish HP/SP in my shroom. This way I don't spend much money on pots and stones. I have yet to buy a single pot, only using those I found as loot, and I have a spare stack of each in bank.
In a few words:
Die a lot ? Nope, I kite.
Costly ? Nope, I rest in my shroom.
Downtime ? By the time a cleric / fighter kill 1 mob solo, I killed 3.

Hellbear
10-31-2007, 05:16 PM
Yeah i dont think mages are such in a disadvantage too, i guess it's all about to know how to use what the game has to offer in your advantage...
That's what i think for other classes too, if your a good player, that knows what suits you the best, you can play with no problems at all. It's all a matter of being able to adapt yourself to new circunstances..
Me too have a mage lvl 34 and I never buy sp/hp stones or sp/hp potions since they all get too much expensive. The first thing when i got lvl 25 was to buy the new house so i could get more sp/hp when resting. I always have pots wich i get from mobs and try to save them resting the most i can. I think the damage output i can do on mobs are very good too...

I think we mages have our good points and our weak points, but other classes don't have it too? I think Fiesta is an well balanced game, and that's so true that things become much more ez when you party, meaning that the classes complement eachother weakness...

That's my point of view.:)

zarlok
10-31-2007, 05:46 PM
[QUOTE=Deedolith;157193]Costly ? Nope, I rest in my shroom.
Downtime ? By the time a cleric / fighter kill 1 mob solo, I killed 3.QUOTE]

Ya right. Then you have to "house up" 3 times as often as the cleric/fighter and end up even or behind the others in total kills PER HOUR which is what really matters. Oh boy you can kill a bunch of mobs fast-- big deal.

Additionally, when that train of mobs hits you, you are dead, when that one mob spawns next to you unexpectedly, you are probably dead. The cleric and fighter barely blink. When the cleric and the fighter can pretty much recklessly drive their horses anywhere because they can take the hits, you can't. In fact, there are spots you cannot cross at all because you cannot clear the spawns out of your way and driving through would be instant death.

Forbin
10-31-2007, 06:06 PM
[QUOTE=Deedolith;157193]Costly ? Nope, I rest in my shroom.
Downtime ? By the time a cleric / fighter kill 1 mob solo, I killed 3.QUOTE]

Ya right. Then you have to "house up" 3 times as often as the cleric/fighter and end up even or behind the others in total kills PER HOUR which is what really matters. Oh boy you can kill a bunch of mobs fast-- big deal.

Additionally, when that train of mobs hits you, you are dead, when that one mob spawns next to you unexpectedly, you are probably dead. The cleric and fighter barely blink. When the cleric and the fighter can pretty much recklessly drive their horses anywhere because they can take the hits, you can't. In fact, there are spots you cannot cross at all because you cannot clear the spawns out of your way and driving through would be instant death.
^^ True story.

My mage is little, but my Cleric is 34. Goblins in Vine Tomb are an easy solo, at 34. If I have to, I can tank 2 of them, possibly 3 but that's pushing it at 34.

204 exp per kill. I have to use 1 SP stone per 2-3 kills. I don't use shrooms when soloing. The cost is negligable for a Cleric anyway.

Now if at 34, I go kill orange or high yellow instead of red mobs, such as Hobs (Orange) in VT, or zombies (Yellow) in MT, my SP usage drops dramatically.

On zombies, I use 1 SP stone maybe every 5 or 6 kills.

The point of this is: A mage that uses their shroom instead of potions/stones does NOT level faster than anyone. However, if a mage is willing to blow through a ton of stones, they are without a doubt the fastest.

kamakazix
10-31-2007, 06:21 PM
I play my mage like I play my rogue on World of Warcraft. I spam my 2 button then hit 1 or 3 ever once in a while. I occassionally drink a pot

CursedMagus
10-31-2007, 06:37 PM
At level 39/40 I doubt fighting in Vine Tomb is all that hard. I went in there at around level 32-ish and didn't have much problem but then again... I was with a group and I pretty much stayed away from anything. Soloing as a Mage is hard despite what anyone "claims" they can do. First of all, Shrooming every time you need to recover HP/SP is a HUGE time waster. Not to mention all the mobs in that place aren't going to just sit there and watch you heal up. And kiting? In Vine Tomb? You're liable to run right into a group of mobs. So that right there makes me incredibly suspicious.

Inuisenpai
10-31-2007, 06:46 PM
I have no problems playing my mage soloing and i'm up to lvl 35 now, also no problem with downtimes.. i have my spells set in slot from 1 to 5 and i spam them all and run when i kill a mob... when i killed a mob i rest in shroom when i get 2x my hp and sp replenished that way my spells are also all cooled down.. this way i get alot of loot playing solo as well as lvl up my licenses.. cos i do alot of repeats this comes in handy...

i don't have 2 used alot of stones cos i use lifetap alot and don't worry for my hp either cos my mob is mostly death before it reaches me... also i don't worry about spawns either i pick safe places 2 lvl at... and even if a spawn occurs i can handle them..

pots are mainly for emergency uses..

also why not use the stones? the loot we get from soloing all the mobs we can easily rebuy the stones... and spells... and KQ sure helps but that's an extra

gongo9999
10-31-2007, 06:51 PM
I agree with this, I usually kill 3-4 mods before a fighter or cleric kills one because I spam 4 skills, if they're not dead I run back a few spam my quickest cooldown spell and kill them off. The way I make money is so simple, I just sell everything I get, I leave no loot behind, I'm level 20 only been playing for 2 days and already have 40 silver.

CursedMagus
10-31-2007, 06:57 PM
I agree with this, I usually kill 3-4 mods before a fighter or cleric kills one because I spam 4 skills, if they're not dead I run back a few spam my quickest cooldown spell and kill them off. The way I make money is so simple, I just sell everything I get, I leave no loot behind, I'm level 20 only been playing for 2 days and already have 40 silver.

Before your opinion can have any value to it what so ever, you need to actually get beyond level 20. Preferably in the 30's. THEN you can come back us and tell us how you feel.

BIG_T
10-31-2007, 07:23 PM
I agree with this, I usually kill 3-4 mods before a fighter or cleric kills one because I spam 4 skills, if they're not dead I run back a few spam my quickest cooldown spell and kill them off. The way I make money is so simple, I just sell everything I get, I leave no loot behind, I'm level 20 only been playing for 2 days and already have 40 silver.
2 day's and at lvl 20? Good show.

Deedolith
11-01-2007, 05:09 AM
At level 39/40 I doubt fighting in Vine Tomb is all that hard.
You're right, fighting in VT at 40 isn't difficult, so is fighting any yellow con mob.

Soloing as a Mage is hard despite what anyone "claims" they can do. First of all, Shrooming every time you need to recover HP/SP is a HUGE time waster.
Read again: By the time a cleric / fighter kill 1 mob, I already killed 3. By the time I'm ready again (after resting) to kill 3 more, he havn't finished his 2nd. So who is leveling slow ? don't think it's me.

And kiting? In Vine Tomb? You're liable to run right into a group of mobs. So that right there makes me incredibly suspicious.
There are safe areas where you can run and rest, as long as you search.

CursedMagus
11-01-2007, 07:08 AM
You're right, fighting in VT at 40 isn't difficult, so is fighting any yellow con mob.

Read again: By the time a cleric / fighter kill 1 mob, I already killed 3. By the time I'm ready again (after resting) to kill 3 more, he havn't finished his 2nd. So who is leveling slow ? don't think it's me.

There are safe areas where you can run and rest, as long as you search.

I went to Vine Tomb around level 30-ish, I believe? And the mobs there were dark orange to me. So at level 40 they should be green to you. Then again, I could be wrong because I have yet to truly focus on leveling up one character.

And? I do not care at what rate you can kill mobs and how many you can kill before resting. You're a Mage fighting mobs that are weaker to you. The keyword here is "Mage". You deal tons of damage compared to the other classes so being proud of killing more mobs than a Cleric or Fighter of the same level is pretty weak.

Yeah but unless you got them mapped out you're going to be fighting a bunch of mobs on the way.

Deedolith
11-01-2007, 11:12 AM
C5 is a nice kitting spot.
There are bone imps there (lvl 39) and procks (lvl 40). I avoid procks, but imps usually goes down without even touching me. It take me 6 hits to kill one, 4 if I'm lucky on crits.