Unauthorized:403 This Error Keeps Occuring.

[FreshTiny]

i cant log in.... plz tell.. whats going on?
There was aproblem logging you in.
Please check that your username and password are correct, and that you are running the lastest Outspark software.


my softerware is latest release(it just auto-update 1 mins ago)..
my password & username is right.


BUT WWWWHHHHYYYY

[Mekoides]

Log out of the forum and log in. If that username/password work, then use them in the outspark launcher. And for the record, servers are still down.

[Driumissimo]

I'm having the same issue, except it's 401, not 403. My other account just suddenly stopped being able to login both the forums and the game about a hour ago.

[FreshTiny]

of course i can log in the forum..or how can i post these words?
..
is this coz server down??

[Mekoides]

of course i can log in the forum..or how can i post these words?
..
is this coz server down??

No, it's not because the server is down. Even if you don't know your username or password you can still use the forum if your login is cached, which is why I suggested you log off and then log back on.

[FreshTiny]

i just relogged the forum..
and b4 that, i cleaned all cathe and history record..

but it doesnt work...

CRY...

[kingabc]

I got same problem with that error 403 T_T

[FreshTiny]

Unauthorized:403 This Error Keeps Occuring.

......still error...

i cannt even see the beginning-cat...

....HELP...

[HeroReign]

Re-install!!!!

[FreshTiny]

Re-install!!!!

seriously?

re-install will make it work?? :-X

and by the way,...
are servers opened? last 8 hours?

[HeroReign]

seriously?

re-install will make it work?? :-X

and by the way,...
are servers opened? last 8 hours?

1. 90% of the time re-installing fixs it.
2.yes it has been 8 hours and still..Servers are not up

[FreshTiny]

1. 90% of the time re-installing fixs it.
2.yes it has been 8 hours and still..Servers are not up

i have re-stalled.. but.. it doesnt work,yet..

im so lucky becoming the 10%....

damn.. whats going on??!!

where is gm.. .gm, plz tell me how to solve..

several ids of mine all cannt log in. they all can log in the forum..

..????

[FreshTiny]

all servers are up now..
Butttt::::
i cant log , still!!

see the god damn warning msgbox:
http://photo.store.qq.com/http_imgload.cgi?/rurl2=aaf632dde2fea5a78acde2ce9fd0e1e1df7b258644e6 4ff8513c53fb9b72e196df444388f688073e02fd567507c55b f6c98f5028bfae4beb51db5afce1a4534aeaca09fb71d829f7 e14f4dde57fdfe1fe4446047

[kingabc]

I'm also getting that kind of problem. What's going on?

[etsuna]

me tooo me tooooooo!! >.< >.<

[FreshTiny]

yes, so many players meet this kind of problem..
why does just nobody tell us how to solve?!
GMs?.. what r u doing..? :-)

should we download the new game-softerware?

but my program just got the latest update patch.. maybe just coz of this update patch!..

what does Unauthorized:403 exactly stand for?

tell me how to solve that, or i ll suicide... i have prepared enough drugs for that..

[rivalrex]

thats the problem i met too. ive re-install, but it dont work. damn it! how can i fix it? or just make me dismay and leave this game?

[darkef]

same problem....:confused::confused::confused:

[FreshTiny]

will gm read these?

if gms do, then tell us..


guys, if u have the same problem, just post reply here..
the more ppl here, the better..

SHOUTING FOR gmS FOCUS!!!!!

[pandaclin]

The same problem happened to me and all of my friends.
Where is the GM? Come to help us plz

[Ritame]

ya,what's wrong? I just register an account and get verified with Email, my user name ans password is right of course :(

[FreshTiny]

ive redownloaded the latest program
ive reinstalledhe game 5 times
ive restarted pc 7 times

it still doesnt work..

i ll go mad soon. b4 i kill someone or myself, plz gm come here..
:mad:

[yu1361]

plz help~~!!!same problem~~cant log in:(

[yu1361]

bad halloween nite!

[etsuna]

yes, so many players meet this kind of problem..
why does just nobody tell us how to solve?!
GMs?.. what r u doing..? :-)

should we download the new game-softerware?

but my program just got the latest update patch.. maybe just coz of this update patch!..

what does Unauthorized:403 exactly stand for?

tell me how to solve that, or i ll suicide... i have prepared enough drugs for that..

ahuahuahuahuahuahauhauah in this "cant login" situation this thread is entertaining LoL... i laughing till my stomach ache darn...

maybe GMs busy :p maybe they working it all right now..
who else want to suicide coz cant login to fiesta? let me help LoL

[yu1361]

:mad:omg,not fuuny!missed the enevt.......keep waiting no end......

[rivalrex]

its disappointed. where is the GMs? plz focus on this terrible situation!!

[FreshTiny]

:(:(
Unauthorized:403 .. still here..
:mad::mad:

[FreshTiny]

guys, have ur problem been solved? have u been able to login?

if not,
come on.. keep posting reply here..
just keep the thread on the top of the forum.. and easy to be found..

come on.. do it..

[G-slayer]

me too~~i want paly it now~~where the GM?

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20698

[cmhyde]

Unauthorized:403 ..the same problem..i cant login for whole day..and my friend can login with my account..

[AznJamesstarz123]

>.< God help us all...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a problem logging you in.
Please check that your username and password is correct, and that your are running the lastest Outspark Software.

(Unathorized: 403)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sigh*...

The power of god compels you 403, the power of the holy ghost compels you 403, the power of our heavenly father compels you 403, the power of our lord christ compels you 403, the power of Jesus Christ compels you 403. Be gone 403 the 3VIL Demon!!! Be gone in the name of god, be gone in the name of Christ, be gone in the name of our heavenly father, be gone in the name of the holy ghost, BE GONE!!!
>.<

[FreshTiny]

god damn Unauthorized:403 ..
Exorcist is coming...

[j3st3r]

Yo i'm getting this problem too. I just created my account today, after hearing my friends talk about this awesome game only to find out that there's this error 403 that's stopping me from trying it. Tell me how to fix this someone!!

[AznJamesstarz123]

>.< still there and its not gone...

The powers of Christianity failed once again...

Sigh...

[shallower]

I dont get it... is this really server down or what? because its not like Outspark people are saying anything about server being down.... and this thing have been happening for 2 days now

[FreshTiny]

location: China
os: Winxp sp2 Chinese Release
Antispyware: None
antiVirus: Nod32
fireWall: None(Turn off)
installPath: f:\outspark\
Proxy configuration: None(Directly Connection From Lan)
Error Description:
Unauthorized:403 Please check that your username and password are correct, and that you are running the lastest Outspark software.


i have updated the latest update-Patch.. and reinstall the game-program for several times..
my username and password is obviously correct.( or how can i post these words here?)

but error still stays here..

plz check the thread and tell me how to solve this problem..

[etsuna]

lets all the error victims suicide.. FreshTiny share me your drugs >.<

[FreshTiny]

ok, i have enough for all of us..

but... who will be killer?
game designers or master?...

To be or not to be , thats a question.

[shallower]

ok, i have enough for all of us..

but... who will be killer?
game designers or master?...

To be or not to be , thats a question.

LOL.. by the way I am in China too.. Probably Chinese internet issue???

[pandaclin]

If all victims of the Unauthorized 403 problems are from China?

[FreshTiny]

im from China..
how about others??

[rivalrex]

yea, im from China too.

[pandaclin]

I suspect the 403 problem is a singnal that the server determines to ban all Chinese player for some reasons.

[FreshTiny]

如果如楼上所言，那我可就有点想说脏话了。
有什么理由？！
给个理由先啊！
晕。。

[shallower]

I suspect the 403 problem is a singnal that the server determines to ban all Chinese player for some reasons.


If i remember correctly this is probably one of China's new law thingy where they kinda limit when you can play Games... or is that just conspiracy?? Someone Google it.. and amazingly the chinese text.. i can read it but i dont understand it.. HAHA

[FreshTiny]

别逼我回光通吧？

哎。。

[shallower]

别逼我回光通吧？

哎。。

ehhhhh..... deciphering..... nvm not bothering to do so.. i just had my Chinese mid term today dont wanna think chinese right now....

And can someone plz tell us what's going on? This is not because of server being down i believe.. because it doesnt say connection fail.. it says Error 403...

[etsuna]

well well... im online from china too, and my friend experience same problem too ( from china too )...
dear Mr.GM we found out our problems LoL! some of us online from china! haahuahuahuahauhauahuhauha

no law bout online games,
no conspiracy.. geez
why use word conspiracy anyway -_-'
dont understand the link between conspiracy and games

FreshTiny i can't read chinese LoL >.<

[shallower]

well well... im online from china too, and my friend experience same problem too ( from china too )...
dear Mr.GM we found out our problems LoL! some of us online from china! haahuahuahuahauhauahuhauha

no law bout online games,
no conspiracy.. geez
why use word conspiracy anyway -_-'
dont understand the link between conspiracy and games

FreshTiny i can't read chinese LoL >.<

Well... i did heard from someone a few days ago about China's control over online gaming due to internet cafes and corruption of Chinese youth...

[AznJamesstarz123]

Grown up in da USA

and i'd like to say a word

**** YOU CHINA YOU SONS OF *****ES!!!
**** CHINA!!!

Sorry... i couldn't hold myself in...

My currrent location is china as well.

So this determines it, Fiesta is baning all Chinese IP users...
This is hilarious though.
Is it the chinese law or is this Racism?? O.o

Talk about a free country...
I will google whether China has passed a new law about Foreign games, however I really doubt it...

[AznJamesstarz123]

BTW.

Just another way of checking whether this is because of a new Chinese Law, If anyone in this forum plays games such as

9Dragons / Silroad / Etc.
Using american servers they would also be baned on those as well due to the law.

Therefore, please check whether you are able to join other foreign games and reply back.

If you are still abled to, then this is not because of a chinese law.

[rivalrex]

别逼我回光通吧？

哎。。
ill be the translator. lol . there is a server of Fiesta in China, namely 光通. but it sucks! so many players from China began to settle into this server, of course, including lots of bots.(what a shame!) but there is no reason for GMs to ban all of players from China. its unfair for the players who are not bots!

[rivalrex]

Grown up in da USA

and i'd like to say a word

**** YOU CHINA YOU SONS OF *****ES!!!
**** CHINA!!!

Sorry... i couldn't hold myself in...

My currrent location is china as well.

So this determines it, Fiesta is baning all Chinese IP users...
This is hilarious though.
Is it the chinese law or is this Racism?? O.o

Talk about a free country...
I will google whether China has passed a new law about Foreign games, however I really doubt it...
dont use such dirty words. not all of Chinese are savage. and im also certainly sure that not all of American are gentlemen.

[shallower]

Grown up in da USA

and i'd like to say a word

**** YOU CHINA YOU SONS OF *****ES!!!
**** CHINA!!!

Sorry... i couldn't hold myself in...

My currrent location is china as well.

So this determines it, Fiesta is baning all Chinese IP users...
This is hilarious though.
Is it the chinese law or is this Racism?? O.o

Talk about a free country...
I will google whether China has passed a new law about Foreign games, however I really doubt it...


I am slightly offended by ur comment since I am Chinese... though I do consider myself American since im born and raised in Cali... but yeah...

[cmhyde]

i dont know why they banned chinese ip..im sure there is not a new law that mentioned above,coz some of my friends in China can login,but i cant.
PS: AznJamesstarz123, Do not use such a dirty word to my country , you r so dirty when you use that! what a shame on you!

[FreshTiny]

Grown up in da USA

and i'd like to say a word

**** YOU CHINA YOU SONS OF *****ES!!!
**** CHINA!!!

Sorry... i couldn't hold myself in...

My currrent location is china as well.

So this determines it, Fiesta is baning all Chinese IP users...
This is hilarious though.
Is it the chinese law or is this Racism?? O.o

Talk about a free country...
I will google whether China has passed a new law about Foreign games, however I really doubt it...
（哪个同胞有空的话，帮忙翻译这些给他听，我的英语很惭愧，只能说些简单的）

我很想知道这孙子犯什么疯呀？
我对你的话语感到很遗憾。
我不像你一样不考虑国体的乱骂人，但你真的让我很失望。


你如果想安全的滚回你的国家而不是让你父母托运你的尸首回去的话，赶快他妈的闭嘴。
这些话会让你在游戏里面死得很频繁，也会给你这年轻人的生活带来些许麻烦。
孙子，你还小，随着你慢慢长大，你就了解，作人要低调，嘴巴是用来说过年的话的，不是用来问候对方父母的， 更他妈不是问候一个大国14亿人的父母的。

我原谅你，因为我相信你是冲动或者是受教育不完全，或者处于你们国家问候语的习惯。但为你的将来和前途着想 ，一个有5000年修养积淀国家的人民告诫你，要低调。

很多东西都是暂时的，包括你现在所谓的优越感，学学历史你会明了这个简单的道理。一时的趾高气扬只能换来后 来的长久的后悔不已。

如果我的话有说错，你可以攻击我，责备我，辱骂我，但不要针对我的国家，我的同胞。因为我爱我的祖国，我的 同胞。

谢谢！

[shallower]

（哪个同胞有空的话，帮忙翻译这些给他听，我的英语很惭愧，只能说些简单的）

我很想知道这孙子犯什么疯呀？
我对你的话语感到很遗憾。
我不像你一样不考虑国体的乱骂人，但你真的让我很失望。


你如果想安全的滚回你的国家而不是让你父母托运你的尸首回去的话，赶快他妈的闭嘴。
这些话会让你在游戏里面死得很频繁，也会给你这年轻人的生活带来些许麻烦。
孙子，你还小，随着你慢慢长大，你就了解，作人要低调，嘴巴是用来说过年的话的，不是用来问候对方父母的， 更他妈不是问候一个大国14亿人的父母的。

我原谅你，因为我相信你是冲动或者是受教育不完全，或者处于你们国家问候语的习惯。但为你的将来和前途着想 ，一个有5000年修养积淀国家的人民告诫你，要低调。

很多东西都是暂时的，包括你现在所谓的优越感，学学历史你会明了这个简单的道理。一时的趾高气扬只能换来后 来的长久的后悔不已。

如果我的话有说错，你可以攻击我，责备我，辱骂我，但不要针对我的国家，我的同胞。因为我爱我的祖国，我的 同胞。

谢谢！

Translate plzzz... im too lazy to read... i get headache when i see chinese...

[AznJamesstarz123]

Sigh*... i am ashamed of myself...

And I am also Chinese...
For everyone's information, but do you not consider the censorship that the Chinese Government implements onto its citizens to be somewhat alienating?

I do apologize for what I have said earlier, but I will not take it back.
Whats been said is said.
My personal viewpoints of a state could be voiced.
Though you guys are right about the way I voiced my opinion. I should not have used such profanity and I am very sorry.

Truce?

[pandaclin]

Plz dont fabricate a nonexistent Chinese legislation that deprives the common Chinses poeple of the power to entertain in their own legal way.
What I mentioned here is the American Fiesta server, that is Outspark, may take measures to ban Chinese IP for some unkown reasons.
My home land, China, may not be an Elysium, but it gives us the tradional root and cultrual pride. She gives us dark eyes, black hair and yellow skin, which can never be wiped out even we now settle in another country. So plz don't be so offensive at such a kindly mum. You may not love her, but plz respect her and never forget that in you body there always flows the blood of Chinese 5000 year history.

[AznJamesstarz123]

lets get back to the matter at hand.

The Unauthorized 403 error.

Has any found anything concerning chinese law or concerning this problem?
If you do, PLEASE post a reply. I am currently searching also on NBC, CNN and google. ^.^ Happy searching.

[cmhyde]

i just want to say it again...that my friends IN CHINA CAN LOGIN, so i think Chinese Government did nothing to foreign games .

[etsuna]

i finally understand...
they banned all chinese players or players that login from china..
i do hope this is technical problem =( not some politics or whatsoever..
geez... what kind of international policy that brought into game.. maybe im just stupid

there's tips tho... i know how we can connect to the game again...

[pandaclin]

Once again, in China there is NOT such a stupid law to ban people from playing a games in a foreign server.
The legislation you guys mentioned here is designed to help the children under 18 out of the so called "Internet Abuse", that is to help those children who spend too much time playing online games every day form a proper attitude toward the relation between entertainment and study, and guide them to make a reasonable arrangement of daily online playing and study.
I think the key of 403 problem lies in the decision of Outspark.

[AznJamesstarz123]

Its is an outrage if the political world has influence over the gaming community which is composed of mostly youg children such as myself. (17)

Politics is politics and games are games. They should not be put together.

International policy on games?
So far with the information I found~
I have read about serveral cases of heart attacks due to nonestop playing...
I have also read about murder over a virtual sword...

Instead of setting an International policy on games, they should educate children about virtual games. Instead of baning IP addresses they should just teach people NOT to play nonestop or kill other people over a virtual sword...

Education...
And now we see the importance of it.

[shallower]

i just want to say it again...that my friends IN CHINA CAN LOGIN, so i think Chinese Government did nothing to foreign games .

By the way.. in literal sense China did ban YouTube and Wikipeida, and some other stuff for sometime.. and i have friends that can go on those website without using proxy....now they are unbanned... im just giving an example.. China is big... they cant block everyone from everything... (i personally think its the DSL company thing... because somehow all my friends that have T1 connection happens to be able to get around bans that get implemented)


also about the server problem... I find no reason for Outspark to ban Chinese IP.. i mean seriously.. there are Chinese ppl out there that cant read chinese.. LIKE ME!

[etsuna]

"they should educate children about virtual games. Instead of baning IP addresses they should just teach people NOT to play nonestop or kill other people over a virtual sword...

Education...
And now we see the importance of it."

tottaly agreed...

my friend in china also have no problem login... but by masking his IP (hiding)
or changing IP addresses from chinese IP to USA IP

which means outspark cant accept chinese IP but can accept other countries IP such as SN or PH etc etc
so if this not somekind of discriminations, it should be technical problems
ban me if im wrong, at least have some courtesy to give notice if it's really region baning

this will be the 2nd not the 1st... i thought only 'gpotato' that dont accept 'sign up' from chinese region (sorry tho gpotato, but hey what happen? i have no problem creating my 1st account.. and when i want cr8 2nd.. -We are sorry. We cannot provide service to customers in your region-)
im not chinese, im not talking for chinese or others
just talking for myself.. games supposed to be 'other world' we should talking bout stats.. prices.. monsters... items... etc etc instead countries, races, international policy, regional baning.. ah cr**

hopefully im wrong, really i hope im wrong
and in the morning, we can get back together again have fun in fiesta without looking skin colors.. countries... races.. religion... but as one fighting monsters LoL

correction:
races... sry this really out of topics.. LoL there are races in fiesta hahaha
fighters,clerics,mages,archers, and we do have to kill each other sometimes in fiesta hauhauhau pvp and guildwar :p

sry if i say (wrote) something wrong =)

[AznJamesstarz123]

---Chinese MMORPG laws---

Though still unclear about the 403 error, the writer is still trying to gather information for all those suffering from the same error that the writer is having. It maybe completely possible that Fiesta is banning all Chinese IP Addresses and this brings forth a question as to why? Obviously as Fiesta addicts we would question why our beloved game is now banning us. The writer is completely and absolutely certain that the players that are faced with the 403 error abided by the "terms of condition" that the game states and followed the Rules and Regulations that Fiesta uses to keep the game at a peaceful atmosphere. Henceforth the writer will display some findings and articles that were found and hopefully these will give insight to those fellow players that are no longer able to play this game. China being in it's current capitalist communism state has declared several laws or advises for the gaming world.

-~ The Three Hour Law ~-

The news that China's government is planning to limit online game players' virtual sessions to three-hours per day has ricocheted around the web-waves, resulting in commentary and occasional outrage by Western bloggers horrified at the nanny-state tactics of the Chinese, ahem, Reds. True, this kind of thing wouldn't go down well in the UK, the US, Oz and other areas of capitalist, individualist ideology, but the situation is rather different on the (relative) other side of the world, as news stories and first-hand accounts demonstrate on a regular basis.

Firstly, it's difficult to comprehend the role that online games play in the everyday lives of Chinese people, but it's pretty evident that their MMOG market is pretty hefty, with hundreds of viable products raking in subscriptions (and hundreds more to come). Secondly, the only place that has witnessed dramatic, legal real-life consequences from online game play has been in China. Let's not forget the headlines made last week about the arrest of an online mugger, or the suspended life sentence of a man who murdered another player for a stolen virtual sword, or the $1,200 recompense that Li Hongchen won from Chinese game publishers because someone had hacked into his online game account.

Sure, the Chinese government's response appears to be dramatic, but this is the same government which controls which games get made (and made), which games get banned, and has already set up clinics for "addicted" online game players.

But for those of us with Western proclivities, there is already Chinese gamer consternation in the ranks.

-~ Male Playing Female Characters Law ~-

Obviously not as sensitive to the needs of transgendered gamers as we in the west, it would seem that Chinese game companies take a dim view of males who want to be females -- in computer games, at least. Such as Chinese MMORPG King of the World won't accept male players masquerading as female characters and is putting a stop to such shenanigans.

Aurora Technology, a subsidiary of Shanda and developer of the game, is freezing the accounts of male gamers with female avatars, and anybody who chooses to play as a female in the game will have to prove they are of permitted gender via webcam. While nonsensical to us, you have to remember that China does love its reckless regulations, so this could almost seem normal coming from the land where skeletons are outlawed in World of Warcraft. Of course, the rules could just be a scam to get webcam shots of gamer girls for the developers.

-~China’s New imposed Law~-

China planned to impose a new law which would require that online computer games generate half-points after three hours of play, and zero points after five hours. Games that did not comply would be shut down.
According to China Daily, the law went into effect on July 17. A few Interesting outtakes from the article.
“The government guidelines don’t flat-out denounce Internet gaming, which has become a popular pastime, stating, “measured gaming is good for the brain, but gaming addiction hurts the body.”
The explanation says the three-hour cutoff is based on the time it takes to play a game of the strategy chess game Go.
Shanghai-based gaming company The9, which runs the popular “World of Warcraft” game in China, said on its Web site it was scheduled to launch the screening software this past Saturday at midnight. The world’s most popular online game has more than 3.5 million players in China.”
“President Hu Jintao ordered regulators in January to promote a "healthy online culture" to protect the government's stability, according to state media. And he was quoted in state media in April as urging Communist Party leaders to "curb the spread of decadent and backward ideological and cultural material online."
Though China's communist government promotes Internet use, it has also set up an extensive surveillance and filtering system to prevent Chinese from accessing material considered obscene or politically subversive.
The government has also banned local authorities from approving new Internet cafes this year.

-~China says “No” to PKing (PvP) Minors in MMORPGs~-

China has launched a crackdown on massively multiplayer online games which have become extremely popular over there. According to Chinese publication Interfax, authorities unveiled new regulations that will prohibit minors under the age of 18 [as opposed to minors over the age of 18 -Ed] from playing violent online games that allow them to kill other players in what is known commonly as Player vs. Player (PvP) in the west, though Chinese authorities have termed it "Player Kills" (PK).
They plan to enforce this by having all MMORPG users authenticate their age by entering their personal identity number on their national ID card.
"Minors should not be allowed to play online games that have PK content, that allow players to increase the power of their own online game characters by killing other players," Liu Shifa, head of the MOC's Internet Culture Division, which drafts policies governing the online gaming market, told Interfax. "Online games that have PK content usually also contain acts of violence and leads to players spending too much time trying to increase the power of their characters. They are harmful to young people."
15.8% of the 103 million Chinese internet users are aged under 18, and nearly half of all China’s 20 million online videogamers prefer MMO games to any other type of online game. The Chinese online gaming market generated RMB 2.47bn ($304m) in sales revenue last year and is expected to see RMB 10.9bn ($1.34m) in sales revenue for 2005, according to China's General Administration of Press and Publication.
In addition, Chinese authorities have also ordered online game operators to install timing mechanisms that will automatically log players off of online games once they have exceeded a set number of hours of continuous play, with Chinese gamers on average spending 10.9 hours a week playing online games.
This is all part of a major crackdown in China to control the exploding online videogame market in the same way that the Chinese government has strict controls on the internet itself, though videogame operators are reluctant to implement the laws knowing what it will do to their business.
One of the more amusing things we find in this story is that whilst many will bemoan that this is undemocratic government censorship, many of the steps taken by the Chinese government this week are steps that anti-videogame campaigners, among them red-blooded American capitalists, have been pressing for extremely hard since the Hot Coffeegate scandal, to say nothing of the use the Chinese have found for their national ID cards...

Notes from the Writer~

It is completely understandable why people from the "west" would ban Chinese IP Addresses due to these articles seen above. The writer guesses that they just do not want to deal with all these foolishness that the Chinese Government provides. Games such as World of Warcraft having to change its characters, outlook, or its designs to fit the Chinese standards is ridiculous and an alienation of the reader’s basic human rights. We as people should strive to be free, not free from the fundamental laws of humanity, but free to express ourselves. The audience should not be oppressed by the government.
It is as hard for the writer to grapple with these ideas as it is for the reader reading. It is true however that Many games such as Fiesta itself spawned from the East. Many MMORPGs come from Taiwan, China, Japan, and Korea.
It was hard for the writer to compile these information because many of the websites concerning these issues were censored.

Thank you for reading.

Sincerely,
Chengdu China

Bibliography:

Note~ Due to Censorship from the Chinese Government MANY useful resources are Censored and their websites CANNOT be displayed.

Source: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2005/08/30/chinas_3hour_limit_isnt_so_surprising.html
Source: CNN.com
Source: BBC.com
Source: http://www.destructoid.com/chinese-mmorpg-bans-males-who-play-as-females-46273.phtml
Source: http://www.chinadaily.net/china/2007-07/17/content_5438062.htm
Source: http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/07/24/chinese-gaming-law/

An interesting Read for those needing more detail (Not Censored)

Website: http://www.gamecensorship.com/mmorpglaw.html

Censorship of Games

Website: http://kotaku.com/gaming/only-in-china/regulating-china-crackdown-or-censorship-305004.php

[AznJamesstarz123]

Ideas from the Writer (Satire –Do not read if easily offended)~
I am Chinese and I can accept these ideas.

From reading the articles above the writer is sure that the reader has understood quite a lot about censorship and the realistic measures that the Chinese government is taking to help its nice citizens stay mentally and physically healthy.

To better improve this idea that the Chinese government has spawned, the writer proposes that we think of ways to help. It is well known that china has Boot Camps for those that are addicted to the internet. I suggest the death penalty. This would help reduce China’s population as well as eliminating those that a mentally sick with an internet addiction. What better way to solve a problem then to eliminate it completely?

Think about it, with the diminishing food supply of China due to its large population, and the measures taken by the “One Child Act” it would be completely reasonable that china takes this opportunity to rid itself of more of its current populace.
Instead of the death penalty?
Why not just eat the addicts? This would greatly boost china’s food supply, end the online addiction, as well as enabling more people that waste their time at these boot camps into other areas of China’s growing economy.

Another idea would be to destroy and burn all computers or laptops within china. Back to the good old ink and pen. Chinese calligraphy is a beautiful form of art that should not be replaced by computers.

Instead why not destroy all technology in china? Man needs to be one with nature and I am sure this would help the Chinese citizens be more physically healthy. This is always a good way to practice communism. The Chinese could send hunting parties into the mountains and hunt tigers or pandas to bring back to the tribe. Equal share for all. This is the foundation in which communism spawned from. This surely would help this magnificent country grow in a positive manor. This idea would also help China keep it’s Chinese tradition.

Burning the computers and laptops would also be able to help those places too poor in china to make nice fires in which to cook the internet addicts and gaming freaks within the country. Yummy.

Censorship? What’s the point of it? Censorship is completely useless. China should stop teaching its citizens how to read and write. Therefore the government could use more of its time on alienating its citizens and not have to worry about what they read off the internet. Why bother?

Without reading and writing and a lack of intelligence we could draw nice pictures in caves. However I’m sure some people that are more intelligent then others would draw pornography. Then we could eat them and admire the artwork.

Wonderful Eh?

[AznJamesstarz123]

Forgot to Qoute

ww.msnbc.com

[shallower]

SEE I WAS RIGHT!!! I mean its not really a good thing to be right in this situation. But thanks for providing such detailed description. You even site your sources! I personally think this is caused by both sides.. China and Outspark... China for making Fiesta load slow and lag for us.. and Outspark for banning Chinese IP... Now.... what etsuna said was so lovely that it almost made be cry.. KUDOs to you....

also the race thingy... the classes arnt races.. there are 3 races in Fiesta.. they are Human (fighter and clerics) Elf (archer) and Dark Elf (mage)

[etsuna]

AznJamesstarz123

thanks for the news!
so they really banned china, oh well.. im gonna miss fiesta

[shallower]

AznJamesstarz123

thanks for the news!
so they really banned china, oh well.. im gonna miss fiesta

LETS ALL GO PLAY RO!!! LOL.... seems like all the RO private servers still work as long as their website is not blocked

[etsuna]

LoL yeah.. i miss RO :p
never tried private server tho.. heard lot lot lot of private server like XileRO
hahaha

[AznJamesstarz123]

Wait!!! I've never said they Baned the Chinese IP adresses

It still may be a bug that the Outspark Team is trying to figure out.
I have E-mailed them at Support@Outspark.com

I am just saying that they MIGHT have baned the Chinese IP adresses.

Might have... Not sure...

[etsuna]

okay sry :p
i take that back LoL

but really... why do we have to use proxy or ip masking to enter fiesta world if its not ip banning? -_-'

[AznJamesstarz123]

Lol I do not know.

Sigh but I do admire they essay I wrote. Such a peice of art. ^.^

Especially the Satire. LOL

[cmhyde]

I am a Chinese ,living in China,but i never heard of these "law" that mentioned by AznJamesstarz123.

[kingabc]

I'm also in China and having read these replies I did some testing. I tried playing the game in Shanghai. As far as the installation goes, everything works but then when I tried to log into the game it still said Error 403. (DAMN IT!). Then I tried the same thing in a different location >_< far from Shanghai in a city called ChangShu in the JiangSu province...and guess what O_o still doesn't work this freakin 403 is starting to really **** me off... Then I asked a couple of friends all over China who were staying in their dorms at their Universities if they could still play...and they told me that they could ...for the most part that is...So ***?! is going on you're telling me that people who should be studying have access to the f$ck#$g game and those that actually aren't in school anymore can't??!! A GM better explain this to me or I'm a bust a cap up someone's *** here in China! >.<
Anyways just letting guys know what i found out. :D

[AznJamesstarz123]

I cited my resources and you may refer to them if you'd like to.

I'm pretty sure that the sites provide truthfull and decent information, such as NBC, BBC, CNN, or China Daily.

Those you could question those information if I had said i have gotten them off of google or yahoo.

Though it may be hard to accept because we are all chinese, it is the truth.

[LelouchBritannia]

Yeah im in china too,in shanghai to be exact,then again i play other games,like RF and FlyFF and both of them runs well,so i don't think it's about chinese goverment that gives the "game limiter laws" i think.....maybe bugs....

[AznJamesstarz123]

Well... then this error is caused by Outspark's own decision to ban Chinese IP users.

Wonder why? o.O

[pandaclin]

That is the answer of 403 problem from the outspark

"I sincerely apologize for being unable to connect to our servers. Outspark games are intended for use in North America. Users outside the region may experience difficulty accessing Outspark games. If you wish to play games similar to ours in your region, then you can access them by clicking on the link I have provided below. Thank you for your interest in Outspark games.

Please visit http://shine.gtgame.com.cn/ to download a local copy.

If you have any further issues please feel free to contact us again. We appreciate your feedback and support during our BETA period. We are working hard to make Outspark.com the best internet gaming site ever!"

They have banned Chinese players technically. You guys can stop arguing if the Chinese government did some things that aren't to your appetite. It's a racial, reginal, and political bias from a so-called civilized country's company.

[FreshTiny]

Nice Ending..
sigh..

[FreshTiny]

just an ip-banning
easy to find a socks5 ip, then gameCap..
so.. same to before..
if u find a sock5 ip.. msg me

[AznJamesstarz123]

That is the answer of 403 problem from the outspark

"I sincerely apologize for being unable to connect to our servers. Outspark games are intended for use in North America. Users outside the region may experience difficulty accessing Outspark games. If you wish to play games similar to ours in your region, then you can access them by clicking on the link I have provided below. Thank you for your interest in Outspark games.

Please visit http://shine.gtgame.com.cn/ to download a local copy.

If you have any further issues please feel free to contact us again. We appreciate your feedback and support during our BETA period. We are working hard to make Outspark.com the best internet gaming site ever!"

They have banned Chinese players technically. You guys can stop arguing if the Chinese government did some things that aren't to your appetite. It's a racial, reginal, and political bias from a so-called civilized country's company.


-~The Question to Ask~-

After reading the Quote from above~

I state a question that I bring forth to you all still reading the Forums and remembering fiesta with a fond heart.

If the game is intended for North America does it mean that Europe, Malysia, Singapore, Japan, or many of the other countries in the world that plays on the North American server will get baned also?

If this is true, they why aren't they? Why only China?
Or when will they began to ban other countries without even a warning?


Another question I bring forth is, I have noticed how some people stated in the forum and from experience in real life, it is possible to mask, hide or change your IP Address so that you could bypass and play games intended for foreign States.

If so, then How?

I am pretty sure that most of the people still wandering the forums after knowing that this is the final goodbye to our Isya adventure is wondering if there is another way to continue to play and how?

Thank you for your responce and replies.

[FreshTiny]

intended for users in North America？
or
intended for users in out-of-China?

if u want to ban ip, ok, ban all ips except those from usa and canada.
if u dont want to do that, dont just ban ips from china.

explaination waited

[etsuna]

i can teach you how to keep playing and continue your adventures in isya

everyone who wants to keep playing, pm me and give me your mail address
i found way
and i intend to share to all of you who suffer this loss...

[hesqua]

i'm sure if they hv a South East Asia server, they'll ban the Malaysia, singapore, Australia IP too...

[etsuna]

wait.. dont pm me.. i'll teach you here! i'll show em! i dont care bout courtest anymore sicen they dont give us some

Here Some Tips to Keep Playing Fiesta:

1. You'll Need Ip Masking / Ip Hider Software ( Proxy Cap, Game Cap, Ip Agents, etc etc )
2. You'll Need IP Proxy Server Addresses ( choose 1 USA server )
3. some settings.. ah you know how to set it...

if you dont... pm me.. i'll give more details... darn i should have website to publish this

[AznJamesstarz123]

Kudos to Etsuna!!!

Yay!!!
Well at least they have chinese players that knows fluent english and rid themselves of chinese spammers (though there are still spammers that are not chinese)... in a way... I guess this is something positive as a result to of this very very racist decision.

[AznJamesstarz123]

-~The Question to Ask~-

After reading the Quote from above~

I state a question that I bring forth to you all still reading the Forums and remembering fiesta with a fond heart.

If the game is intended for North America does it mean that Europe, Malysia, Singapore, Japan, or many of the other countries in the world that plays on the North American server will get baned also?

If this is true, they why aren't they? Why only China?
Or when will they began to ban other countries without even a warning?


Another question I bring forth is, I have noticed how some people stated in the forum and from experience in real life, it is possible to mask, hide or change your IP Address so that you could bypass and play games intended for foreign States.

If so, then How?

I am pretty sure that most of the people still wandering the forums after knowing that this is the final goodbye to our Isya adventure is wondering if there is another way to continue to play and how?

Thank you for your responce and replies.


intended for users in North America？
or
intended for users in out-of-China?

if u want to ban ip, ok, ban all ips except those from usa and canada.
if u dont want to do that, dont just ban ips from china.

explaination waited




-~Much Agreed~-

We should have an explaination as to why only China's IP has been blocked.
My friends from Singapore are still abled to play? This is outrageous, and I'm begining to feel that I have been insulted because of the skin I have over my flesh. Though I do not blame the outspark company, there must be some other reason as to why they would block China's IP addresses.


Thus, I am waiting for an explaination.

[etsuna]

i;ve posted it... but someone think its illegal.. before there any negative discussion i have to edit this link

sry all =(

[Mekoides]

Just a word of warning before anyone follows etsuna's tips. He is suggesting you use what is called a proxy server located within the "allowed" region. This is HIGHLY dishonest activity, and in some countries is illegal. This process essentially conceals your origins with the soul purpose of defrauding Outspark by accessing a resource that you have been intentionally denied.

I'm not saying etsuna is right or wrong here - I'm just saying know your local laws before attempting this kind of thing.

[etsuna]

*sigh*....

[AznJamesstarz123]

Just a word of warning before anyone follows etsuna's tips. He is suggesting you use what is called a proxy server located within the "allowed" region. This is HIGHLY dishonest activity, and in some countries is illegal. This process essentially conceals your origins with the soul purpose of defrauding Outspark by accessing a resource that you have been intentionally denied.

I'm not saying etsuna is right or wrong here - I'm just saying know your local laws before attempting this kind of thing.



-~Hmmm~-

Yea, sitting in the warm comforts of china, and knowing the law is doing its best to protect and keep us safe and out of harms way (Even though I am a US citizen) and that it is not at all controlling or oppresive I might just even try the idea form etsuna only to find myself with the death penalty of having played Fiesta from china.

Hey, why don't we all just go and suicide?! I'm pretty sure our father upstairs can just block out more stuff and keep us out of harms way like how he kept Adam and Eve naked.

And I would be happy to get back to playing fiesta knowing that it baned and removed us on purpose and not any other country.

For the second time in my life, I feel insulted and ashamed to be an Asian.

[LelouchBritannia]

Hei2 don't say u are ashamed as an asian,we've got something that we should proud of too u know...

[AznJamesstarz123]

-~More to Talk About~-


Meanwhile, while talking about the 403 error, finding out the reasons, trying to solve it, and running around thinking about racism this thread has turned out to be VERY interesting as we see social, politicall, and racial issues being draged into the gaming communitee.

Should games be devided by regions? Should games be devided by ethnicity? Should we stand for such ideocracy?

By no means am I saying we should strike, but I say that we should voice our opinions on such topics.


-~Additional Thoughts~-


Like the founding fathers of America (The land which I consider to be home) were hypocrites with Democracy and freedom while keeping African American Slaves, in a way so was this issue.

However with the modernization of the world today, and how we are all globally connected through the high speed internet, such ideas are spread very quickly. Does racism still exists in modern day civilization? To what extent can a person be alienated against?

When I see that only China's IP has been banned and no other countries, I feel threatened and feel as if this is a racial attack on our ethnicity. This today is a depressing day for the gaming communities when such ludicrous could be allowed without a quick explanation. I'm pretty sure that this thread must have caught someone's eye because of its steady growth over last night.

This year's Halloween, came to be a very sad one indeed.

Happy Halloween everyone.

[etsuna]

like i said...

games supposed to be fun.. supposed to be other world that keeps us childerns and whoever wants ( not childerns, -red ) to keep away from politics, ethnics, money, job. etc etc you name it...
you guys who thinks im doin illegal stuff, dishonor, HIGHLY dishonest activity, disgusting, etc etc... im truly sorry.. i did all that coz in bottom of my heart i do love fiesta world but it seems like some people dont want me to get back there for some reason that never been explained... so i used everything i have to get there, you were saying its dishonest.. did i harm you, you were saying want fiesta (outspark) to be number 1.. didn't we help you by stayin there and spread it mouth to mouth, publish it in fansites?

once again im truly sorry... your opinions dissapointed me, i'd you are not truly great gamer, and mostly i dissapointed for i cant 'truly' enter fiesta as chinese

yes im game freak
i never neglected all jobs, obligation, works, assigments, sleeps, eat...
in order to keep healthy online society i already control my online addiction without goverment have to tell me... and some morrons killing for something in games or hacking other people's account thats what i call dishonored, disgusting, dishonest, etc etc

sry if i wrote something hurting or wrong >.<

[shallower]

Action is better than words.... Meaning we should STOP complaining and actually doing something about it. I say we start a petition. Who is with me?

[AznJamesstarz123]

like i said...

games supposed to be fun.. supposed to be other world that keeps us childerns and whoever wants ( not childerns, -red ) to keep away from politics, ethnics, money, job. etc etc you name it...
you guys who thinks im doin illegal stuff, dishonor, HIGHLY dishonest activity, disgusting, etc etc... im truly sorry.. i did all that coz in bottom of my heart i do love fiesta world but it seems like some people dont want me to get back there for some reason that never been explained... so i used everything i have to get there, you were saying its dishonest.. did i harm you, you were saying want fiesta (outspark) to be number 1.. didn't we help you by stayin there and spread it mouth to mouth, publish it in fansites?

once again im truly sorry... your opinions dissapointed me, i'd you are not truly great gamer, and mostly i dissapointed for i cant 'truly' enter fiesta as chinese

yes im game freak
i never neglected all jobs, obligation, works, assigments, sleeps, eat...
in order to keep healthy online society i already control my online addiction without goverment have to tell me... and some morrons killing for something in games or hacking other people's account thats what i call dishonored, disgusting, dishonest, etc etc

sry if i wrote something hurting or wrong >.<



-~Beautiful~-

That moving peice of engrish almost made me cry. Kudos to you!

[shallower]

Petition to Bring Back China Link: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=165144#post165144

go there and put ur name!

[AznJamesstarz123]

-~Outspark Business Statement~-

"The company's global reach enables it to select the most compelling social games from around the world and deliver them to English-speaking audiences. Outspark is headquartered in San Francisco, California."

Notice it's "Global Reach" sigh, but the catch with the "English-speaking audiences"
Wow!

Global Reach where the sun don't shine.

Source: http://corp.outspark.com/

[etsuna]

the thread closed LoL

what the heLL is wrong with this Lordalden -_-' i just dont understand what hes doin.. he keeps confronting peoples who loves fiesta and want some answers from fiesta...

hey lordalden, i dont need your answers, i do understand what chinese doin with their games i lived here -_-' i do understand bout policy, i do understand bout company rights, i do understand bout equality or racism, im not stupid
but i do know that you dont understand our situations who got banned,

and i do understand outspark have some explanation for all this, thats all i wanted thats all players who got banned wanted, not explanation from you lordalden -_-' geez..
you dont agree its okay, leave it dont bother, make new threads say what you have to say and get back to fiesta play your character make fun of it and buzz -_-'

and about the bots or spammers
take a look again, go on login to fiesta and see is there any chinese spamming? no of course not china got banned.. funny thing is there still lot of bots and spammers lurking arround

how do i know? i know -_-' i found way to login just to see is fiesta getting better without chinese player.. guess what... you now the answer its still the same LoL

and i dont need your criticsm *yawn* all i want is answer that comforting my heart for i loved fiesta so much but still, i got banned....

if there is reasons whatsoever like company policy
if there is reasons whatsoever like racism (sorry, just example)
if there is reasons whatsoever like bots, spam, third party softwares
if there is reasons whatsoever like ... errr help me here.. think 1

that will be outspark's explanation to us not from you lordalden..
so please will you stop confronting and buzz off... coz we need explanation from outspark once again not from you thank you...
its not like were trying to destroying or burning outspark.. its a forum for godsake
you sounds smart.. why dont act like one -_-'

for all players that dont agree with this petition thing, i liked to say we're very sorry
its like one of hundreds ways to get answers we just pick this one
we dont hurt your eyes, we dont hurt your body, we definetly not chasing everybody with knifes too, we just put lot lot lot lot words here LoL ( not spamming >.< )

hope you guys back us up or at least give us a good luck words :p LoL
btw is lordalden is GM? or staff? (not critics truly dont know who you are)

np : what is engrish btw? ^^' hahaha

[G-slayer]

面对自诩为民主平等～～鼓吹人权的美国～我已经没有话说～～

[p2p.alex]

Lol I come from Cali. I am U.S ctizen. And I too live in China. 403 is unessecary. This is a complete outrage! Me, being a middle schooler. I look to games for stress relief and plain fun =), but now they block us for reasons that, in my preception) are inadequate to ban a whole nation of gamers. Their so called "Global Reach" was all a ploy! A lie to get us to play and spread popularity of the game! I feel scammed. (might have been too harsh)

[G-slayer]

这就是diguozhuy的本质么~~

[fghgh]

"Conncetion to servers has failed"?

What is the problem?

[lairdfair]

ME TOO！！！from 10/31....55555555
why??
The servers close?

[chrismng]

*** :mad::mad: how can they do this to all us ppl who live in china!Its discrimiation! OUTSPARK SUCKS!(i will take this back if they allow china to enter server:D)but still!wut happened is some of us were to use cash??(IF is the key word)... wut would we do?? JUST LOSE THE MONEY! I H8 OUTSPARK!:mad:

[lairdfair]

I find answer=.=
_________________
Good Day Outspark Players,

At 7:00 AM PDT on Friday, November 2, 2007, we will be conducting a server restart across all games. The restart should not take any longer than 5 minutes. Thanks you for your patience and Happy Gaming!


- Outspark Team
_____________________
there's still 1 hour
we r waiting...

————————————
23：00

now i still can't log in
i dont know
i dont know really....
i dont know if my friends couldnt see me in fiesta again,what they will think

anyway,the bad sellers are very few
most of chinese play it in the propriety!!!

pls let us in.......

[lairdfair]

hehe ...

i just want to see my friends in the game
to see my kasyapa..........

he will never go to lv20
the 19th....
see u ,canary
good night,my swift

[jamasteX]

Register a new account try it if that doenst work the nyou need to re-install thats what i think... or maybe check you email the info is probably there so you could check if the user and pass is right or wrong theres no harm in checking ^^

[AznJamesstarz123]

Refer to page seven (7) of this thread then.

[AznJamesstarz123]

-~What About Our Characters?~-

Being an american citizen and living in China to teach english, I'm wondering if I would still be abled to play once I have gotten back to California. Would this IP ban delete our characters? This is my last year in China.

[AznJamesstarz123]

-~Lost and Forgotten?~-

Is the players from China just lost and forgotten?
Left in a corner to collect dust that softly rest itself upon our characters.

Sigh~

Fiesta, Outspark, what did you do?