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Lost_Sign
10-31-2007, 06:00 PM
People say archers are well "underpowered" and how to increase the stats ~~ nothing to fear ;) the stats aint that important like some people say that STR STR Full unlike some games str increase many dmg at 1 point but in this game it increases 1 dmg and for every 5 STR u increase a bonus of 1 extra DMG hehe aint that cool? -.- DEX to increase aim not to increase evade, evade is useless when u get to 30+ morever evade dont stack up much after you are at the cap level so DEX yesh but just a little... and END should be the best of all the stats i have seen

1.More HP

2.Every END u increase blocks 1 dmg from the enemy... very..."usefull"

Archers are not bout the stats its bout their skills its special better then others they deal soo posion + bleed + your shooting should add STR deal more while it comes to words u so just use posion then use bleed and run till your skill is recarged stop and fire like crazy the monster should be round death point the time it reaches u so maybe take 2~4 hits unlike warrior they get hit 99% of the time maybe 100...

so u could say archers are like take this for example bleed and posion they get hit like round 50 per sec and u add in your dmg which deals 100+ if STR maybe more so it will be 150+dmg per sec so aint that good enough?
and by the time they reach u they died...

Archers: not recomended to be soloing waste of time and may result to death i dont think archers can handle 2 mobs at once... mages could due to their power clerics "god like" warrior "never dieing"...

a party with a cleric wont do any thing since clerics dont fight much they heal more ~ warriors could be your tank but u'll need a cleric which adds another slot to your party... lower xp lesser loot ~ another archer would be just fine... just fine only... u shot posion and bleed em run away from it while your mate kills it with his shots and when the mob thinks that why am i so stupid to go after the guy that runs away? and chases your mate its your turn to shoot and his turn to run mob will be running here and there till it dies... ~mages same plan as archers mages would be alot better coz their attacks are really good conpared to archers~ team with a party with mage or archer clerics will do if u think u dont wanna waste your pots and wanna save some for yourself men are selfish... but dont think clerics should be treated as servants

I dont think many of you will agree with this comments pls

Forbin
10-31-2007, 06:09 PM
My IQ just dropped 10 points after attempting to read that.

h0b0onsn0w
10-31-2007, 06:13 PM
not a bad plan but are there as many archers and mages that know how to do ur trick well? or are they just some ignorant fool and become completely dependant on clerics.

Slayer1557
10-31-2007, 06:22 PM
People say archers are well "underpowered" and how to increase the stats ~~ nothing to fear ;) the stats aint that important like some people say that STR STR Full unlike some games str increase many dmg at 1 point but in this game it increases 1 dmg and for every 5 STR u increase a bonus of 1 extra DMG hehe aint that cool? -.- DEX to increase aim not to increase evade, evade is useless when u get to 30+ morever evade dont stack up much after you are at the cap level so DEX yesh but just a little... and END should be the best of all the stats i have seen

1.More HP

2.Every END u increase blocks 1 dmg from the enemy... very..."usefull"

Archers are not bout the stats its bout their skills its special better then others they deal soo posion + bleed + your shooting should add STR deal more while it comes to words u so just use posion then use bleed and run till your skill is recarged stop and fire like crazy the monster should be round death point the time it reaches u so maybe take 2~4 hits unlike warrior they get hit 99% of the time maybe 100...

so u could say archers are like take this for example bleed and posion they get hit like round 50 per sec and u add in your dmg which deals 100+ if STR maybe more so it will be 150+dmg per sec so aint that good enough?
and by the time they reach u they died...

Archers: not recomended to be soloing waste of time and may result to death i dont think archers can handle 2 mobs at once... mages could due to their power clerics "god like" warrior "never dieing"...

a party with a cleric wont do any thing since clerics dont fight much they heal more ~ warriors could be your tank but u'll need a cleric which adds another slot to your party... lower xp lesser loot ~ another archer would be just fine... just fine only... u shot posion and bleed em run away from it while your mate kills it with his shots and when the mob thinks that why am i so stupid to go after the guy that runs away? and chases your mate its your turn to shoot and his turn to run mob will be running here and there till it dies... ~mages same plan as archers mages would be alot better coz their attacks are really good conpared to archers~ team with a party with mage or archer clerics will do if u think u dont wanna waste your pots and wanna save some for yourself men are selfish... but dont think clerics should be treated as servants

I dont think many of you will agree with this comments pls

I'm sorry, but you are just.... wrong... I'll admit I dont add str to my archer, I do 25 Spr and then full Dex, but your definition of the stats are wrong. STR DOES add damage for each point you add, it adds BONUS damage for every 5. For example +4 Str you get +4 damage total, but at +5 STR you get +6 damage total. thats what it means. Ive dont tests and I have seen differences with a single point, so I know what I'm talking about.

Now I'm only lev 19 so I can't say how evade will be at higher levels, but it should be useful at any level, and I think the extra 5% critical you get from adding 25 SPR is VERY useful, not to mention the extra SP.

END only has so much use to an archer because of our low defense. It doesn't help much to have lots of health if you are destroyed in one hit anyway, I think the evade is better, on another END doesn't prevent 1 damage per point added. It adds a little defence and a small % to block chance(archers shouldn't even have a block chance, no shield see?)

also, Archer's poison and periodic bleeding attacks do a constant damage no matter what your str is, the only thing that determines their strength is the skill's level and Skill empowerment. Example, the poison shot level 1 does 7 damage a second, no matter how much STR you have it will still do 7 Damage a second. So in otherwords you can't do 150 damage a second via poison/periotic bleeding. sorry.

hellx12
10-31-2007, 07:22 PM
I'm sorry, but you are just.... wrong... I'll admit I dont add str to my archer, I do 25 Spr and then full Dex, but your definition of the stats are wrong. STR DOES add damage for each point you add, it adds BONUS damage for every 5. For example +4 Str you get +4 damage total, but at +5 STR you get +6 damage total. thats what it means. Ive dont tests and I have seen differences with a single point, so I know what I'm talking about.

Now I'm only lev 19 so I can't say how evade will be at higher levels, but it should be useful at any level, and I think the extra 5% critical you get from adding 25 SPR is VERY useful, not to mention the extra SP.

END only has so much use to an archer because of our low defense. It doesn't help much to have lots of health if you are destroyed in one hit anyway, I think the evade is better, on another END doesn't prevent 1 damage per point added. It adds a little defence and a small % to block chance(archers shouldn't even have a block chance, no shield see?)

also, Archer's poison and periodic bleeding attacks do a constant damage no matter what your str is, the only thing that determines their strength is the skill's level and Skill empowerment. Example, the poison shot level 1 does 7 damage a second, no matter how much STR you have it will still do 7 Damage a second. So in otherwords you can't do 150 damage a second via poison/periotic bleeding. sorry.

i agree with said

dex is much more useful than str and whoever wrote this please either go jump off a bridge or cut ur fingers off and stich ur mouth shut so no one will have to ever deal wih this again this shows a complete lack of knowledge about fiesta

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Lost_Sign
10-31-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm sorry, but you are just.... wrong... I'll admit I dont add str to my archer, I do 25 Spr and then full Dex, but your definition of the stats are wrong. STR DOES add damage for each point you add, it adds BONUS damage for every 5. For example +4 Str you get +4 damage total, but at +5 STR you get +6 damage total. thats what it means. Ive dont tests and I have seen differences with a single point, so I know what I'm talking about.

Now I'm only lev 19 so I can't say how evade will be at higher levels, but it should be useful at any level, and I think the extra 5% critical you get from adding 25 SPR is VERY useful, not to mention the extra SP.

END only has so much use to an archer because of our low defense. It doesn't help much to have lots of health if you are destroyed in one hit anyway, I think the evade is better, on another END doesn't prevent 1 damage per point added. It adds a little defence and a small % to block chance(archers shouldn't even have a block chance, no shield see?)

also, Archer's poison and periodic bleeding attacks do a constant damage no matter what your str is, the only thing that determines their strength is the skill's level and Skill empowerment. Example, the poison shot level 1 does 7 damage a second, no matter how much STR you have it will still do 7 Damage a second. So in otherwords you can't do 150 damage a second via poison/periotic bleeding. sorry.

ok i think u get the whole idea wrong or did i miss out something in my graph?
ok 1st of all i know every 5 str u add there is an extra dmg bonus that i proven and about the spr thingy thats the most usefull stats for all archer i just forgot to add it in ... coz i was in another thread they talked about what they wanted to increase the point at so i just wanted to help and forgoten all important points...

yup end increase block but archers dont have a shield increase END just for the def or the hp bonus

another misunderstanding i was not talking about increase str so that the skills have more dmg i was saying that increase STR + your skills meaning your STR Bulid shots+posion+bleed

so yea sorry for not makeing that clear enough...

Slayer1557
11-01-2007, 01:11 PM
syllables and sentences dude. In otherwords, make sure anyone can understand you, even idiots. Spell it out. Repeat yourself over and over in different ways to make sure the point gets across. Make sure they understand, so phrase your sentences properly.

Get the idea?

Balder
11-01-2007, 01:37 PM
Holy crap, I can't read this o_O

Chriszed
11-01-2007, 02:24 PM
Umm. Your not smart. Heh Heh.

DEX is very good, infact Archer's can't block. When you see miss above your head thats DEX. And lol 100dmg. What lvl are 40? I'm lvl 30 and I do 70. And at lvl 40 like you say you get 100dmg from poisons(it's really like 80 or so).

Yea they suck and are underpowered. They get a total of 10 moves. Warriors are like 20-28.

Lost_Sign
11-01-2007, 09:06 PM
they say koren version's archers are more wothy to play than archer's form here "some skills are missing" thats what i have heard

HelionZebes
11-01-2007, 09:08 PM
My IQ just dropped 10 points after attempting to read that.
I CONCUR!!

Eliasj
11-01-2007, 10:14 PM
EVADE USELESS AT 30+?! Do you have any idea what you are talkign about? I am a 3:1 DEX:STR archer, adn while fighting Harkans, at lvl 46, I get missed lots. I have like +7% evade, wich raises it significantly. DEX also adds AIM, wich now I believe I have +10%. Seriously, I don't remember the last time I have missed...

themichael
09-04-2008, 05:52 PM
Well I do agree dex is very useful(especially at lower lvls)
But it seems to me that at higher lvls dex dosent really pay off.
I mean I was 25spr rest dex at lvl 40 and saw some misses but for the most part fighting a mob thats orange to You dosent really miss much, maybe 30 % of the time.

Therefor I bought a stat reset and tried 25spr rest str wich I like ALOT better much more damage and Monsters still miss me a decent amount just not as much as b4.
The last Note Ill go out on is I much rather kill something b4 it gets to me rather than give it a chance to hit me that "may" miss.

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lightspring
09-04-2008, 11:04 PM
well.. i'm a DEX:SPR 2:3 build..

no i wont say its bad, i like it. spr you all should know why.. and dex, please, the evade helps. at lvl 46 (like elias), i hit harkens without fail, and they miss me like, 3/10 times. aim? at lv35 i could hit stuff in uruga 7/10 times without an aim scroll. (before the 30lvl higher get 1exp thing ._.) at 46, i do MD kq without any problems, i see only one miss throughout the kq, without any scroll. the best part is still MD missing me(:

however, some say at higher lvls dex doesnt really get usefull. i'm not at 'higher lvls' yet, so i cant really argue this. however i'm going to carry on my build and see.. if the fact that trumpies missed me at lv35 and its because of my dex build (was full dex then), then i dont think it will be that bad. you lvl and your evade grows, but the mob's aim doesnt. so.

MagneusFighter
09-05-2008, 04:04 PM
old news ive done this along time ago im a pure end build on my gear anyways

i have +9 bow for damage

have insane end+ gear and dex

i put my stat points on str only 43 of them and put the rest of end

but yes this is the way to go im glad somoene else is doing the same as me

brynex187
09-05-2008, 07:15 PM
Archer must build an end....so it will build more def... Archer have a big chance to defeat an fighter if u put ur self on end and str some spr.... And a plus 9 bow....but i know acher r useless when they come to abyss so i refer i solo my archer on abyss....i just wore my plus 6 armor and a cleric sometimes

brynex187
09-05-2008, 07:17 PM
Sad to say someone delete my lv 62 archer....i lost a lot of money on that....i wais gm would feel how sad is this

themichael
09-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Sad to say someone delete my lv 62 archer....i lost a lot of money on that....i wais gm would feel how sad is this

Yea...thats sucks. x.x
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Juan0129
09-07-2008, 07:23 PM
Themichael I love ur sig rofl.

+rep for u

brynex187
09-08-2008, 04:10 AM
i love ur cutie archer pict!

themichael
09-16-2008, 01:21 PM
Y thank u
both of ya =]

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