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dutchboy.h2
06-04-2009, 10:47 PM
is there a reward for it because i have been hearing rumors there won't be i have been hearing rumors there will and not only that the one person i know who has capped has not even been acknowledged even if i know im not going to cap first or even for awhile those who have done it deserve an acknowledgment for cap raise because it is quite an asing feet in my opinion to do it that fast kthxbai
drigr_x
06-04-2009, 10:49 PM
ONE) Make your siggy smaller. I cant read the whole thread, and I'm sure it breaks a ToS
TWO) Only if you cap on the new server. GreenBean already capped.
darthnish
06-04-2009, 10:52 PM
exactly the new player feature showed someone who got to 100, i mean if that;s such a big accomplishemnt then why the hell wasnt greenbean featured? she already capped >.>
dutchboy.h2
06-04-2009, 10:54 PM
sorry about that i fixed it and yes it was more like why wasn't GreenBean at least acknowledged fiighter21 who was a lowere lvl then GreeenBean at the time did not even get an acknowledge from GM
drigr_x
06-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Who's fighter21?
dutchboy.h2
06-04-2009, 10:58 PM
the person who is the featured story of fiesta
and i know they made a thread about this upcoming event which i said greenbean was going to be first to get the new skills but no GM silky no likey mexi :) jk hi silky if you seee this
Fre_ak
06-04-2009, 10:59 PM
because the feature for this month was about who was the first to change into prestige class (lvl100) and not the first to cap
maybe next month ^^
drigr_x
06-04-2009, 11:00 PM
They should still have made an anouncement across all Fiesta forums showing all who cap.
goldhawk2
06-04-2009, 11:31 PM
exactly the new player feature showed someone who got to 100, i mean if that;s such a big accomplishemnt then why the hell wasnt greenbean featured? she already capped >.>
Silly Nish =3 have you not seen my posts? OS loves fighters.....hoozey and greenbean hit 100 before the fighter...and look who got featured =3
GM_Pilkysico
06-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Fiighter21 was the first on Apoline. It's very clear.
I have all data and was watching the race closely.
And about GreenBean, I have some suspicions. But anyways, I approached her and never got a response so they lost out on an interview.
Andromeda
06-05-2009, 12:25 AM
because the feature for this month was about who was the first to change into prestige class (lvl100) and not the first to cap
maybe next month ^^
I disagree Fiighter21 was 14-15% away from Lv 100 at the time the maintenance for the class change quest I remember him saying it during the downtime of the maintenance at that time GreenBean was already close to Lv 102. (Silkypico is even implying it too since he said First on Apoline instead of First person to actually do the class change)
GreenBean never replied to anyone because she did not want to be interrupted by people while she was grinding which is why she turned whispers off and never replied back to Silkypico.
Greenbean was only playing no more than 8 hours a day while Fiighter 21 was playing from 15-20. That alone proves how much faster an archer can grind over a fighter.
Fiighter21 definitely put more effort into getting to the class change over GreenBean but thats how classes work for you one is always better over another at something.
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 12:51 AM
Even if GreenBean had whispers off, I was standing there for a good 10 mins talking with zero response (non-whisper).
darthnish
06-05-2009, 01:30 AM
maybe she was afk?
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 01:32 AM
Even if GreenBean had whispers off, I was standing there for a good 10 mins talking with zero response (non-whisper).
U followed her around and didnt say a word- not high nothing. You were on autofollow even.
Greenbean is a very shy girl,and with her Asian upbringing doesnt speak unless spoken to. You were actually making her very nervous because u didnt say anything.
So dont try to play it off that she did bad, because she did not.
She even pmed me and asked what to do to make u stop. I did submit a ticket!!!!!!*
darthnish
06-05-2009, 01:35 AM
so anway could you do anotherfeature for her? seeing as she is the first to cap.
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 01:38 AM
Fiighter21 was the first on Apoline. It's very clear.
I have all data and was watching the race closely.
And about GreenBean, I have some suspicions. But anyways, I approached her and never got a response so they lost out on an interview.
You are a piece of work. She has done nothing but lv and buy sc since the begining. How dare u sir have anything but good things to say about such a player that never pvp's never ks's and never causes drama.
I hope to God that she doesnt read this thread because you Silky have been something else. I expect you to make some sort of apology for your unprofessional and unacceptable comments.
darthnish
06-05-2009, 01:43 AM
yea i have met green bean talked to her on vent she's a really nice person, even gave me tips on what to kite and best ways to lvl >.>
Adrichiang
06-05-2009, 02:33 AM
is there a reward for it because i have been hearing rumors there won't be i have been hearing rumors there will and not only that the one person i know who has capped has not even been acknowledged even if i know im not going to cap first or even for awhile those who have done it deserve an acknowledgment for cap raise because it is quite an asing feet in my opinion to do it that fast kthxbai
Hmm... if there is no official statement or announcement from Outspark staff, it would be safer to assume that there is no tangible in game benefit for being one of the first to cap at level 105 compared to the Cap race at level 79. Yes you may compare previous rewards given by Outspark events as possible rewards for similar events in the future but we have seen events that been done in the past but not longer repeated in the future for whatever reason. Example such as the Little King's Crown on 2/2008 but no repeat reward on 2/2009. Permanent Valentine costume rewards for Date a GM on 2/2008 but no permanent Valentine costume rewards for Date a GM on 2/2009.
Now recognition is a bit different since it does not provide any in game benefits besides showing off your achievement to others.
Congratulations to GreenBean to being first to hit Prestige class and capping to level 105, there probably is no one who's arguing against that fact.
GreenBean have good friends who's willing to post her achievements on the forums and thus giving GreenBean some sort of player recognition. Now is it really necessary for GreenBean to receive official recognition from Outspark, if their is no real argument on GreenBean hitting cap before any other player? Is there any in game benefit that Fighter21 received from being recognized as the first player to hit 100 in Apoline server that GreenBean did not receive as the first player to hit 100 in all of the Fiesta servers?
There are many great athletes irl that never got the fame they deserved compared to less skilled athletes simply because they lacked the people skills to communicate more effectively with their fans.
GreenBean is a great leveler and super nice person as many people say but GreenBean is hit with a few issues such as not having a Fiesta forum account set up so Silkypico can not communicate with her via PMs. Having whispers turned off during exping sessions so Silkypico can not communicate with her in game. Being shy enough that GreenBean did not stop kiting when an actual GM of Fiesta is following them around for 10 minutes and ask Silkypico a simple question of hey GM, why are you following me?
There really should be no indication to GreenBean that she's being harassed. The GM is not using any harsh words to insult the player. The GM did not summon tons of monsters on top of player to kill them as a joke. The GM did not KS the player's mob. The GM did not bother picking up all the drops left by the kiting archer. Why would you consider it rude for the GM trying to contact a player on giving recognition in game but the player turned off their whispers or interface. If the chat interface is turned off by GreenBean, there is no way for a GM to know that fact.
If GreenBean really feels that she should get some form official recognition from Outspark, let GreenBean herself make the attempts to contact an Outspark personally. GreenBean had a chance for official recognition by through a series of misunderstandings, she missed her window of opportunity. There is no need to provoke Silkypico, provoking a GM will most likely hurt GreenBeans chances for any form of official reconsideration to being recognized by Outspark as Silkypico is not obligated to print any material on who's the first to hit 105 cap as their is no rl or ingame rewards associated with that feat.
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 03:02 AM
[/QUOTE] If GreenBean really feels that she should get some form official recognition from Outspark, let GreenBean herself make the attempts to contact an Outspark personally. GreenBean had a chance for official recognition by through a series of misunderstandings, she missed her window of opportunity. There is no need to provoke Silkypico, provoking a GM will most likely hurt GreenBeans chances for any form of official reconsideration to being recognized by Outspark as Silkypico is not obligated to print any material on who's the first to hit 105 cap as their is no rl or ingame rewards associated with that feat.[/QUOTE]
She doesn't say a word and isnt going to ask for anything. That is pretty ignorant to say. Provoke silky- he stated he has suspicions about her. That is unprofessional at any lv.
She got kudos from her friends and yes she is happy. It is all of us that watched her do it that are disappointed in how this wonderful staff has done.
So if ur done sucking up i think we have heard enough.*
dedize
06-05-2009, 03:04 AM
Even if GreenBean had whispers off, I was standing there for a good 10 mins talking with zero response (non-whisper).
Greenbean is a very shy girl,and with her Asian upbringing doesnt speak unless spoken to. You were actually making her very nervous because u didnt say anything.
GreenBean is hit with a few issues such as not having a Fiesta forum account set up so Silkypico can not communicate with her via PMs. Having whispers turned off during exping sessions so Silkypico can not communicate with her in game. Being shy enough that GreenBean did not stop kiting when an actual GM of Fiesta is following them around for 10 minutes and ask Silkypico a simple question of hey GM, why are you following me?
Ah Rin are you just dumb and cant read? or where you to busy writing your novel to suck up to silkypico?
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 03:07 AM
Hmm... if there is no official statement or announcement from Outspark staff, it would be safer to assume that there is no tangible in game benefit for being one of the first to cap at level 105 compared to the Cap race at level 79. Yes you may compare previous rewards given by Outspark events as possible rewards for similar events in the future but we have seen events that been done in the past but not longer repeated in the future for whatever reason. Example such as the Little King's Crown on 2/2008 but no repeat reward on 2/2009. Permanent Valentine costume rewards for Date a GM on 2/2008 but no permanent Valentine costume rewards for Date a GM on 2/2009.
Now recognition is a bit different since it does not provide any in game benefits besides showing off your achievement to others.
Congratulations to GreenBean to being first to hit Prestige class and capping to level 105, there probably is no one who's arguing against that fact.
GreenBean have good friends who's willing to post her achievements on the forums and thus giving GreenBean some sort of player recognition. Now is it really necessary for GreenBean to receive official recognition from Outspark, if their is no real argument on GreenBean hitting cap before any other player? Is there any in game benefit that Fighter21 received from being recognized as the first player to hit 100 in Apoline server that GreenBean did not receive as the first player to hit 100 in all of the Fiesta servers?
There are many great athletes irl that never got the fame they deserved compared to less skilled athletes simply because they lacked the people skills to communicate more effectively with their fans.
GreenBean is a great leveler and super nice person as many people say but GreenBean is hit with a few issues such as not having a Fiesta forum account set up so Silkypico can not communicate with her via PMs. Having whispers turned off during exping sessions so Silkypico can not communicate with her in game. Being shy enough that GreenBean did not stop kiting when an actual GM of Fiesta is following them around for 10 minutes and ask Silkypico a simple question of hey GM, why are you following me?
There really should be no indication to GreenBean that she's being harassed. The GM is not using any harsh words to insult the player. The GM did not summon tons of monsters on top of player to kill them as a joke. The GM did not KS the player's mob. The GM did not bother picking up all the drops left by the kiting archer. Why would you consider it rude for the GM trying to contact a player on giving recognition in game but the player turned off their whispers or interface. If the chat interface is turned off by GreenBean, there is no way for a GM to know that fact.
If GreenBean really feels that she should get some form official recognition from Outspark, let GreenBean herself make the attempts to contact an Outspark personally. GreenBean had a chance for official recognition by through a series of misunderstandings, she missed her window of opportunity. There is no need to provoke Silkypico, provoking a GM will most likely hurt GreenBeans chances for any form of official reconsideration to being recognized by Outspark as Silkypico is not obligated to print any material on who's the first to hit 105 cap as their is no rl or ingame rewards associated with that feat.
That is really ignorant for you to think she should have to beg for kudos. And as for provoking Silky- he said it all when he had suspicions about her. That was completely unacceptable coming from any outspark staff.
So if u are done sucking up to the Gm's have a nice day.
KateeHellen
06-05-2009, 03:38 AM
Calm down please.
Last thing witch is here needed is war over something what can be resolved in patient way.
*sigh...* I still remember controversy over first capped <79> player and looks like scenario is repeating again but this time from side of staff.
Not for the first time Silkypico show his lack of professionalism because there were multiple ways to communicate whit GreenBean when direct contact was impossible.
I assume that she is in guild so when direct contact fail logical solution were find other member of her guild and let tell him/her known what situation is NOT undertake stance of procurator < but looks like this was too complicated to figured out for GM and beside good thing that he did not decide that she boting and ban her because of that>.
AND there was one more official way for GM to get her attention and i mean making server vide announcement request her for communicate whit GM <following her by the way>.
I am more as sure that such message will not comes unnnoticed by her or any member of her guild.
*sigh...* But honestly i think last what she really need is unhealthy attention from other players because of this issue.
I spoke as permanent outsider not involved lately in any sort of Fiesta activity but i can read and i see how ridiculous this situation start to be...
lostangelrequiem
06-05-2009, 03:39 AM
If you guys would just calm down for half a minute ...
Rin wasn't trying to be mean to Green, or a "suck-up". She was just stating facts. She isn't "ignorant". If anything, your inflammatory comments are the ignorant ones.
Yes, most people are aware that Greenbean was the first person to cap to 105. And wow, she's one determined girl 'cause I sure couldn't do that xDD
Bless her, is she really that shy that she wouldn't even ask a GM why she was being followed around? That's kind of cute x3
But as Rin said, the only way she will actually GET any official recognition for it is if she communicates with the staff. She can't give an interview if she doesn't even speak to them xD
And if she doesn't want to, then you as her friends should respect her decision and let the issue be. Maybe she doesn't want a big kerfuffle about it, who knows?
Stop fighting other people's battles, it just weakens their case >>
darthnish
06-05-2009, 03:56 AM
i honestly dont care about any interview or w/e >.> a formal announcement is all i ask?
lostangelrequiem
06-05-2009, 04:05 AM
Yeah. All YOU ask. "You" being the operative word. Kinda missed the point of my post there Ewo ^^;;
Anyway, I'm off to work now so I'll let you guys argue in peace~
mikejodeb123
06-05-2009, 04:12 AM
Ugh.. arguing over who got interviewed and who didn't. Yeah. As silky said, he tried to interview him/her, she/he never replyed so it's her fault. :\ Lol. Ewo.. calm down.. geez.
lenore_lurks
06-05-2009, 06:39 AM
Through all of this, most people have now been made aware that GreenBean is the first to cap.
One of the problems with this, I think, was the very short time frame. There was a thread made asking for specific things, like highest lvl player. People said F21 and iToy. Nothing was mentioned about GreenBean, and by the time it was, it was possibly too late. A GM went ig to try and find out more about this person, but their lack of communication meant that they could not be seriously considered. I understand that GreenBean is a lovely person and has a kind heart, but being too shy to even say 'hi' if a GM is following you for 10 minutes? She could have gotten a guildie or a friend to talk for her. There were options, none were taken, she missed her chance (if she even wanted it).
Eh. Maybe too late to do anything now. That window of opportunity has probably closed since this search for highest lvled player began... 2 weeks ago? Or close to it.
If you want something, you have to feel confident enough in yourself to get it. She worked hard to cap, but couldn't speak up for herself in the end, and lost out. It's unfortunate, but it was also a choice.
Dragonfly77
06-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Just to put this out, I believe GreenBean is guildless. So contacting her guild is out of question.
Whether Greenbean was too shy to speak to a GM or not, she's obviously not making any more points herself as to why she didn't receive the interview. Maybe she just doesn't want the attention. A formal recognition is a nice gesture, but is it necessary since everyone already knows that GreenBean did this epic act of actually being the first to cap?
If a mistake was made, and all I see that is needed is an apology and sincere do-over. If GreenBean doesn't want it, then that's it. No need to continue the situation.
wannabeguyo
06-05-2009, 07:17 AM
I like how he says "they.":rolleyes: Anyway, GreenBean made it to 105 by herself. When I'm in AOE mode, busy, or don't feel like being bothered I ignore everyone. Unless its my wife or a guildy. I don't even look at the character name, unless I'm in a pvp field.
zephyrwind
06-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Just to put this out, I believe GreenBean is guildless. So contacting her guild is out of question.
Whether Greenbean was too shy to speak to a GM or not, she's obviously not making any more points herself as to why she didn't receive the interview. Maybe she just doesn't want the attention. A formal recognition is a nice gesture, but is it necessary since everyone already knows that GreenBean did this epic act of actually being the first to cap?
If a mistake was made, and all I see that is needed is an apology and sincere do-over. If GreenBean doesn't want it, then that's it. No need to continue the situation.
She's not guildless. She's in Aristocrats guild.
lenore_lurks
06-05-2009, 07:54 AM
She's in a guild and talks to them regularly. Her friends were apparently there when this happened too, so she could have asked them to speak for her if she really couldnt do it herself.
I don't see how this needs an apology, though. If she didn't speak up, she missed her chance.
oh well X_X stuff happens. If she wants something to be done about it, she's going to have to make that decision and come forward herself.
Stingerdan
06-05-2009, 07:56 AM
How can someone be shy on the internet? @.@
Anyway....
Why do all the people try to speak for GreenBean.
I'm sure she doesn't need Mommy and Daddy to defend her.(them)
If she(they) want recognition she(they) can come on the forums herself, she(they) doesn't(don't) need help from a thousand people. I'm sure she(they) have a brain(s), a hand(s) and everything else that we have, why doesn't(don't) she(they) simply post on the forums?
Dragonfly77
06-05-2009, 08:16 AM
She's not guildless. She's in Aristocrats guild.
._.' I stand corrected. >.<
YoshimaruOrona
06-05-2009, 08:20 AM
This is just a thought I had.
If she was really looking to be recognized for being first to reach lv100 or first to reach cap, shouldn't she have posted some kind of SS about it by now? Or (and this was done) have a friend/guildie of hers post an SS or vid?
She probably didn't want the recognition, or is too modest to go around shouting/spamming people/post here about it, but either way, she's still recognized as first to reach 105.
darthnish
06-05-2009, 08:35 AM
first of if you shout in apoline, everyone is convinced f21 is the lvling god and he alone posseses the will to lvl and get to cap, all the nubs treat him like a god for being 100+, he doesnt deserve that, greenbean does. That is why i wish that the gms will make a public announcemnt about it.
And i hate that a fighter is being rechognized for it, archers being the underdogs finally have one achievemnt, the first to reach the current cap was an archer.
Andromeda
06-05-2009, 08:55 AM
first of if you shout in apoline, everyone is convinced f21 is the lvling god and he alone posseses the will to lvl and get to cap, all the nubs treat him like a god for being 100+, he doesnt deserve that, greenbean does. That is why i wish that the gms will make a public announcemnt about it.
And i hate that a fighter is being rechognized for it, archers being the underdogs finally have one achievemnt, the first to reach the current cap was an archer.
With all do respect fighters are much harder to grind with over archers was it you or someone else who said GreenBean played no more than 8 hours a day? While F21 played double that amount and yet GreenBean was still leveling twice as fast. Fighters require alot more effort to grind with GreenBean should be acknowledged as the first to do the class change and first to cap but F21 should also be acknowleged as he has put way more effort into this by far than GreenBean has.
Dragonfly77
06-05-2009, 09:11 AM
GreenBean deserves recognition, but it comes down to whether she wants it or not...
Fre_ak
06-05-2009, 09:22 AM
Like others said, she didnt answer to GM even tho he was standing there trying to communicate with her. But she didnt bother to say a single word. i find it..weird (gonna flame me too?). she even turned on her whisper, skip all Silky messages and pm LilDebi.
She even pmed me and asked what to do to make u stop. I did submit a ticket!!!!!!*
if she didnt want that interview, im sure she dont want this annoucement either.
i suggest GreenBean herself to post here if im wrong. ONLY HER know if she want it or not.
WendaBoogy
06-05-2009, 10:33 AM
The only thing I find wrong with this is a certain lack of professionalism on Pico's part, in disclosing information that he isn't even sure of. Whatever your own personal suspicions, I believe it is the company's job to find ground for them before speaking out. If/When GreenBean is found to be innocent, you've probably ruined her reputation, at least in enough minds that it won't be recovered fully - and you've made yourself look like a fool as well. If/When she is found guilty, then kudos, you got your +1, but you've still lost a lot of respect for your mannerisms.
*Edit: I had really appreciated the seemingly thoughtful change of your answers to people in the forums the past couple of days (regarding price of swimsuits, ideas about fame for premium items, &c). Please continue posting like that, put the rest of posts like this behind you.
silksilk
06-05-2009, 12:19 PM
Fiighter21 was the first on Apoline. It's very clear.
I have all data and was watching the race closely.
And about GreenBean, I have some suspicions. But anyways, I approached her and never got a response so they lost out on an interview.
So you followed her around and didnt say anything to her, but you expect her to say something to you???? why??? because you are a GM???? your supposed to be someone sitting on a pedistool?
She was already angry at you for making your first mistake of telling everyone F21 was the first one to change class.
You have logs about this ****, check them next time, and you know what assumptions should not be made. Maybe next time try saying something.
P.S She PM'd me after you left and said you were creeping her out because you didtn say anything but were just following her, and by the looks if your pics i would be a bit scared too. =/
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 12:21 PM
Just to put this out, I believe GreenBean is guildless. So contacting her guild is out of question.
Whether Greenbean was too shy to speak to a GM or not, she's obviously not making any more points herself as to why she didn't receive the interview. Maybe she just doesn't want the attention. A formal recognition is a nice gesture, but is it necessary since everyone already knows that GreenBean did this epic act of actually being the first to cap?
If a mistake was made, and all I see that is needed is an apology and sincere do-over. If GreenBean doesn't want it, then that's it. No need to continue the situation.
She is an Aristocrat 100%. She isnt saying a word. The ppl who watched and supported her are.
I'm angry at the insinuations that she has done something wrong. If there was ever a question- it should have been asked. He followed her around for 10 minutes without saying a damn thing.
silksilk
06-05-2009, 12:26 PM
For the record, ANY game she has played, we have kept records, shes been #1 in everything except for PVP since she does not like PVP at all, so yea kinda like keep the accusations to your self silky =/
dutchboy.h2
06-05-2009, 02:28 PM
if anyone does not believe she is 1 person please hop onto ventrilo and kindly look at the person [<3]holly she is quite shy probably will not talk to you but that is her she is on 8 hours a day usually
tenmu
06-05-2009, 03:05 PM
every interesting, sad and disappointing u r silky, u follow her for 10 min and didnt say a word and now suspicion her
wow, just wow for some1 who hold high rank in this game
very very disappointing
KungFuHobo
06-05-2009, 04:19 PM
With all do respect fighters are much harder to grind with over archers was it you or someone else who said GreenBean played no more than 8 hours a day? While F21 played double that amount and yet GreenBean was still leveling twice as fast. Fighters require alot more effort to grind with GreenBean should be acknowledged as the first to do the class change and first to cap but F21 should also be acknowleged as he has put way more effort into this by far than GreenBean has.
With all do respect, being an archer does not mean greenbean did less work or put forth less effort than F21. The ammount of hours he played compared to how many she played doesnt matter, its what they were grinding on that matters.
If I play 15-20 hours grinding on slimes, but somebody else spends 8 hours grinding on lava gargoyles, I would bet the person grinding on Lava Gargoyles is going to level at a faster rate.
How can someone be shy on the internet? @.@
Anyway....
Why do all the people try to speak for GreenBean.
I'm sure she doesn't need Mommy and Daddy to defend her.(them)
If she(they) want recognition she(they) can come on the forums herself, she(they) doesn't(don't) need help from a thousand people. I'm sure she(they) have a brain(s), a hand(s) and everything else that we have, why doesn't(don't) she(they) simply post on the forums?
Thats just how she was raised man.
To turn the argument around...
Based on what GreenBeans close friends have told us, she is a quiet and shy person who was raised not to speak unless spoken to. With this kind of mindset why would she want to access the forums?
This entire argument was sparked by Silkypico's careless choice of words. GreenBean's friends/guildies/(fans) are defending her because they are offended that an Outspark Official has disrespected their friend for no good reason aside from his own skepticism.
GreenBean's abscence on the forums is no reason to discuss her in a negative manner, this includes making false accusations that she shares accounts.
If the accounts of Silky's meeting with GB are true, and he in fact did sit there and creep her out with his presence, then he should apologize for not approaching the situation in a more polite fashion.
...somewhere dakkon turns in his grave
Andromeda
06-05-2009, 05:03 PM
With all do respect, being an archer does not mean greenbean did less work or put forth less effort than F21. The ammount of hours he played compared to how many she played doesnt matter, its what they were grinding on that matters.
If I play 15-20 hours grinding on slimes, but somebody else spends 8 hours grinding on lava gargoyles, I would bet the person grinding on Lava Gargoyles is going to level at a faster rate.
Wrong.
Now where do I begin...
Archers can get around 40 million exp an hour fighters can barely make half that amount in almost double the amount of time. Grinding on the exact same enemy.
Try playing in Burning Rock a bit more on a Core/Mole repeat or a Jewel Tree repeat you can get a very straight answer from that. You seem to be the only person who actually thinks fighters can grind exp just as fast archers (Before Lv 51 I would have to agree with you there but this was from Lv 89-105) then you go ahead and say the amount of hours have no difference whatsoever.
Your opinion is completely biased towards GreenBean I already said GreenBean should be acknowledged for changing class first and hitting Lv 105.
Fiighter21 should also be acknowledged too (Which he was) as he grinded as fast as probably could on what his class can handle put double of the amount of time into it per day than GreenBean did. You think that does not deserve recogonition?
shihouinkyouhei
06-05-2009, 07:35 PM
The kind of "effort" you put in is different for each class. You can't measure how an archer levels with how a fighter levels because of the drastic gameplay difference. Technically, if you were to ignore the HP of all the classes, mages are the fastest grinders but because of their weak defence and lack of HP recovery, as well as their 2 second cast times on the AOE, it makes them really vulnerable to attack. The archer is able to run while killing mobs with poison and bleed AOE attacks and takes a lot less damage with speed scrolls, which allows them to stay out in the field longer.
You are correct in assuming that fighter21, iToy, and GreenBean all deserve recognition for capping. You are correct in saying that Silkypico "implied" rumors about GreenBean. You are correct in saying that GreenBean deserves the right to be recognized for capping or reaching prestige class.
Personally, I just think people should stick to their own servers. There's usually enough drama flying around within a server and we don't need a drama storm brewing between the servers.
Edit: I think the way I worded some stuff was a bit inconsiderate... =.=;;
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 08:23 PM
every interesting, sad and disappointing u r silky, u follow her for 10 min and didnt say a word and now suspicion her
wow, just wow for some1 who hold high rank in this game
very very disappointing
You miss understood. I shouted for 10 minutes, and she didn't respond.
I think you need to re-read what I have said.
I stood there for 10 mins typing to her and didn't get a response. This means that I was ignored.
I approached her to congratulate her on being the highest level player in the game at that time. Also asked her if she wanted to do an interview. I was still being ignored.
All this took place while she was grinding alone in Alberstol Ruins, mobbing monsters constantly with zero response to whispers and normal chat.
And that's all I have to say about that.
One thing is to congratulate a player for achieving a goal, another thing is to bash someone for being a Fiesta Feature. This is one of the reasons why Player of the Month has been eliminated and Fiesta Feature was born. All Fiesta Features have accomplished something. If you still want to start threads and bash people for accomplishing something in Fiesta, I'll just stop doing Fiesta Features that give player recognition and do them based on events, or Fiesta content that is released during that month.
silksilk
06-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Lol you didnt respond in guild chat all there was hey silky is here but hes not responding so she went on her way =/
Linabella
06-05-2009, 08:38 PM
honestly now..even if a GM is following you around without saying anything(which i highly doubt he said nothing..he prolly at least said hi if not more)..why wouldnt you stop and at least say the simple word "hi" lol ..im a very shy person aswell and typing is a lot easier then talking on vent to people, even if its just friends..she was the first to 105 so she should know why silky was there and at least say something to him.
now..dont get me wrong ..i have much respect for greenbean..getting to lvl 105 is a big accomplishment, but i also understand why silky has his suspicions (although i admit you should of kept them to yourself instead of bringing your thoughts to the forums ><) it is quite hard to lvl at 90+ and i honestly never even heard of greenbean before or seen her around..and the short time frame is another thing..the cap has only been raised for a couple months? x.x ..so i understand why silky has his suspicions but still..shouldnt take credit away from greenbean for her hardwork if she did do it all herself (which honestly..no one really knows except for her and her friends who obviously wouldnt "rat" her out, lol)
im not agreeing with anyone here..im just giving my point of view..and all of you posting are greenbean's friends or "fans" but have you even asked her, herself if she wanted this interview or wanted credit? ..maybe she doesnt, lol ..if she did i'd think she would of turned on her whispers after getting to 105 ..she didnt make much effort to get this interview or even announced so she might not even want it, and if she does..then i suggest you friends of hers go talk to her and tell her to contact a GM via forums instead of complaining that she didnt get a interview that she might not even want
LilDebi
06-05-2009, 08:44 PM
You miss understood. I shouted for 10 minutes, and she didn't respond.
I think you need to re-read what I have said.
I stood there for 10 mins typing to her and didn't get a response. This means that I was ignored.
I approached her to congratulate her on being the highest level player in the game at that time. Also asked her if she wanted to do an interview. I was still being ignored.
All this took place while she was grinding alone in Alberstol Ruins, mobbing monsters constantly with zero response to whispers and normal chat.
And that's all I have to say about that.
One thing is to congratulate a player for achieving a goal, another thing is to bash someone for being a Fiesta Feature. This is one of the reasons why Player of the Month has been eliminated and Fiesta Feature was born. All Fiesta Features have accomplished something. If you still want to start threads and bash people for accomplishing something in Fiesta, I'll just stop doing Fiesta Features that give player recognition and do them based on events, or Fiesta content that is released during that month.
You sir are a Liar. Greenbean even did say she said hi with no response. Check her chat logs.
She is so hurt and angry by what u have said, you should be ashamed of yourself!
Say what u must to make you worshipers feel better. I believe her 100% and she has no reason to make anything up.
I am not bashing the chosen player. I am disappointed in your choice of words and accusations about suspicions you Silky have made.
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 08:46 PM
Lol you didnt respond in guild chat all there was hey silky is here but hes not responding so she went on her way =/
Let me re-state something I've already stated.
I followed her for 10 mins. I attempted to speak to her for 10 mins (all chat/whisper).
I wanted to interview her for June Fiesta Feature.
I'm going to step out of this thread and let you assume your own things.
The moment you start to bash the Fiesta Feature - Fiighter21, this thread will be closed.
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 08:48 PM
You sir are a Liar. Greenbean even did say she said hi with no response. Check her chat logs.
She is so hurt and angry by what u have said, you should be ashamed of yourself!
Say what u must to make you worshipers feel better. I believe her 100% and she has no reason to make anything up.
I am not bashing the chosen player. I am disappointed in your choice of words and accusations about suspicions you Silky have made.
I have data logs.
silksilk
06-05-2009, 08:54 PM
can you post the guild chat logs please
Thank you enough said =/
guild log right there
Silky is following me I tried to say hi while he was standing there but no response so I started to grind again. and please post the messages you were send her too. If your not going to post its he say she say. =/
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 09:01 PM
can you post the guild chat logs please
Thank you enough said =/
guild log right there
Silky is following me I tried to say hi while he was standing there but no response so I started to grind again. and please post the messages you were send her too. If your not going to post its he say she say. =/
I don't need to post anything regarding chat history or character logs/data.
GreenBean hit level 105. She's still in the game. etc etc.
No action has been taken... no one is harassing her, messaging her, or anything.
It's very simple. She missed an opportunity to become a Fiesta Feature. I've stated many times and then some of how and why. If you actually read the beginning of the thread, it states "exactly the new player feature showed someone who got to 100, i mean if that;s such a big accomplishemnt then why the hell wasnt greenbean featured? she already capped >.>".
I've given you an explanation. You don't need to prove anything to me. She is the first person to cap.
Before you start flaming a fellow player, Fiighter21, you should understand the entire story.
silksilk
06-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Where can we file a report against GMs? thats all i want to know. there a LOT of us that would like to file a complaint. period
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 09:05 PM
Where can we file a report against GMs? thats all i want to know. there a LOT of us that would like to file a complaint. period
Submit a ticket. support.outspark.com
Contact CSR_Joker, CSR_Hal, or CSR_Logan.
Thanks.
Fre_ak
06-05-2009, 09:06 PM
i dont think silky can post these kind of stuff in the forum..maybe u guys can make a report. so an other GM or CSR will double check the data.
if i were a jury, i would believe the one who actually have the data logs =/
off-topic:
i personally like the Player of the Month better because the badge look cool ..haha..=/
EDIT:
^blahh
silksilk
06-05-2009, 09:09 PM
What the bloody hell is a lower position staff member going to do about a higher level staff member?
How can i contact a GM to submit a letter. I and several others would like your actions to be judged by staff member of equal or higher power than you.
P.S - and why dont you come talk to holly on vent atleast you can hear here and we can hear what you have to say.
SweaterMittens
06-05-2009, 09:13 PM
Why so serious?
silksilk
06-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Because GMs shouldnt just come on the forums and lie about **** and then think all good, and give players a bad name.
GM_Pilkysico
06-05-2009, 09:19 PM
I think I've leaked a bit too much information in the past two days.
Assumptions have specific reasons behind. Whether you want to complain about the Swimsuit price thread or not, I am the only person who is answering or taking time to read this forum (other than CLs).
If you are expecting me to agree with you 100%, that's not true. I'm stating facts. You're free to complain about me as much as you want. I've given you the address to report me.
What I will not tolerate is staff harassment.
This thread is closed. Anymore of the same type of thread will be also deleted or closed as instructed to Community Leaders.
Thanks for reading.