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nasgax
06-05-2009, 05:04 PM
We all know the first 3 to cap will be archer/mage most likely. Esspecially one with good SC on them 24/7. So what about fighter? Or cleric? OS makes it impossible for any of those to win. So I am asking you OS, before it is too late... could you please change the winners the top 3 of each class instead of the top 3 overall?

I find it a little too hard, unfair, blah blah (yes I am ranting) at how I play as much as I can with fighter, yet a mage and archer are leveling almost x2 faster then me (despite me having cookie 24/7, +100% xp card, etc etc).

With me hardcore grinding as a lv55 fighter in the 6x abyss with 70% cookie and +100% xp card with alot of crit on suit, I take about 2 hours to level up. Yet the mage and archer only takes an hour?! :confused:

What about clerics? They can never win (unless being shared by 2 of more players). The only reason why a cleric won the 89 cap was because of a hack I heard. (please confirm someone?). clerics higher level almost HAVE to party in order to gain xp. Therefore they are getting 1/2 the xp as a solo person will, they will never be able to pass 1st place, unless they play longer then 20/7 which is nearly humanly impossible.

What are others thoughts on this?

zoey199
06-05-2009, 05:12 PM
Nasga your a fighter and guess what x3 You can kill what archers and mages cannot, If your charmed up like that go to RoA and solo in the all trumpies room dude thats the benefit of being a fighter you can lvl where others cannot and therefore are able to gain exp at a fast rate b/c you simply can kill higher exp monsters.
Yes a archer is probably going to be the first lvl 105 their designed like that.
however i think that chances are Os is not inclined to broaden the prize. its not like they wanna actually possibly lose profits lol..

Andromeda
06-05-2009, 05:17 PM
Nasga your a fighter and guess what x3 You can kill what archers and mages cannot, If your charmed up like that go to RoA and solo in the all trumpies room dude thats the benefit of being a fighter you can lvl where others cannot and therefore are able to gain exp at a fast rate b/c you simply can kill higher exp monsters.
Yes a archer is probably going to be the first lvl 105 their designed like that.
however i think that chances are Os is not inclined to broaden the prize. its not like they wanna actually possibly lose profits lol..

The only problem with that is if their is a big enough level gap between the enemy and the player is the exp really really is terrible.

For example a Lv 50 fighter would benefit better grinding in DOA over ROA because of the level gap difference that was implemented to make power leveling on monsters harder. Archers can still get by this with speed scrolls. No matter what way you look at it archers reign supreme in PvE

YoshimaruOrona
06-05-2009, 05:33 PM
Nasga your a fighter and guess what x3 You can kill what archers and mages cannot, If your charmed up like that go to RoA and solo in the all trumpies room dude thats the benefit of being a fighter you can lvl where others cannot and therefore are able to gain exp at a fast rate b/c you simply can kill higher exp monsters.
Yes a archer is probably going to be the first lvl 105 their designed like that.
however i think that chances are Os is not inclined to broaden the prize. its not like they wanna actually possibly lose profits lol..

Andromeda has a good point. I believe the best exp you can get is from monsters 15 levels over you. After that, the exp gets bad (which makes we wonder *** 4x and low 5x people are doing in RoA).

Furthermore, OS can't lose profits over this. Really, they can't. I can only imagine how much money is being spent on charms right now for this race. By the time everything's said and done, at best, a person might get 250k in sc for free. Even that seems like a vicious overestimation to me. One more thing: After 30 days (more like 26 now), the prize decreases. Meaning that as soon as that 31st day hits, the chances of them losing profits decreases even further.

As far as the class thing goes, nasga has a point. Not everybody likes archers, nor are people capable of playing it for whatever reason. Archers are undoubtedly the best at grinding as the game stands. As far as cleric goes, any cleric who thinks they're going to reach 105 in a month is sadly mistaken. The only way it's possible is if a cleric is duo'd with an archer 95% of the time ... in which case, the archer won't be getting 1st in the race. Maybe 2nd or 3rd if he/she's lucky.

nasga, I wish the best of luck for you and the other people racing. Though it's good you know that it's not likely that you'll pull off first place against the 1-man killing armies (archers).

omnipotentnicky
06-05-2009, 05:38 PM
I agree a little with everyone here.
Nasga, I know you wanna cap first.
And the idea of the first three was a little unfair to those that enjoy playing a cleric, or fighter.
But, we can't really change that now, and us clerics & duos will just have to work our bums off to beat solo beast archers such as Exora & EyeDrops.
And FatalIce just scares me. LOL.

omega_cloud9
06-05-2009, 07:08 PM
I agree, BUT everyone had a choice in the beggining what they wanted to be. All classes have their perks.

SweaterMittens
06-05-2009, 08:14 PM
I love when fighters complain <3

Moxxie
06-05-2009, 09:27 PM
Lol Archers are the best at levelling

nasgax
06-05-2009, 09:30 PM
I love when fighters complain <3

It's not just fighter... clerics too... something is wrong with you if you disagree to this tho :|

Also: this is first time I have made fighter ever, :/ I hate fighters, I have 7x cleric/mage/archer... If you have nothing creative to say on the topic, don't say anything at all. Your post was not useful, offtopic, and annoying.


Lol Archers are the best at levelling

My point exactly. Making it unfair for other classes in this "race"..

zephyr_wind
06-05-2009, 09:58 PM
you fail to realize that it becomes increasingly harder for mages to level around 7x without a party. Charms can do them really well up to about 6x and that's when they really become party dependent. charms + scrolls can only help a mage so much, trust me as a lv 75 mage with good END/DEX gears I still can't AOE as much as I can with a cleric. The only way I see a mage winning this race is they could ensure a cleric that they'd definitely get 2nd place if they played together 95%-100% of the time. Archers are the best soloers imo and that's why personally believe they'll reach the cap first on Cypion.

archaedius
06-05-2009, 10:09 PM
I agree, Fighters have advantages over various classes, due to the fact they can take what other classes simply can't.
I work in a trio with my friends, I'm the mage, I NEED my Cleric to be online if I want to level.
Honestly, if you don't feel up to slaying bigger, or tougher monsters, then quest till your eyes drop out.
Erm..goodluck :D

SweaterMittens
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
It's not just fighter... clerics too... something is wrong with you if you disagree to this tho :|

Also: this is first time I have made fighter ever, :/ I hate fighters, I have 7x cleric/mage/archer... If you have nothing creative to say on the topic, don't say anything at all. Your post was not useful, offtopic, and annoying.




My point exactly. Making it unfair for other classes in this "race"..

I love it when fighters complain<3

Sharlyne
06-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Nasga your a fighter and guess what x3 You can kill what archers and mages cannot, If your charmed up like that go to RoA and solo in the all trumpies room dude thats the benefit of being a fighter you can lvl where others cannot and therefore are able to gain exp at a fast rate b/c you simply can kill higher exp monsters.
Yes a archer is probably going to be the first lvl 105 their designed like that.
however i think that chances are Os is not inclined to broaden the prize. its not like they wanna actually possibly lose profits lol..

you lvl according how much faster you mob you kill, ah mage or archer can take 50 mobs and just kill them essay when a fighter needs to 1 vs 1 till all dead or hopefully devastate finish job which is slower.

nasgax
06-05-2009, 11:29 PM
you fail to realize that it becomes increasingly harder for mages to level around 7x without a party. Charms can do them really well up to about 6x and that's when they really become party dependent. charms + scrolls can only help a mage so much, trust me as a lv 75 mage with good END/DEX gears I still can't AOE as much as I can with a cleric. The only way I see a mage winning this race is they could ensure a cleric that they'd definitely get 2nd place if they played together 95%-100% of the time. Archers are the best soloers imo and that's why personally believe they'll reach the cap first on Cypion.

You do realize, you are just proving my point. That it is unfair for all classes when archer is easiest to solo to cap. I might of said mage also, but that is because on Cypion, there are several solo mages leveling almost faster then archers with the right amount of SC. Sure higher level it becomes more difficult for mage and other class. Just another reason why the top 3 cap race should be for EACH class and not overall.


I love it when fighters complain<3

Why do you love it? I am actually a really nice fighter compared to a lot of them out there :/

Sharlyne
06-05-2009, 11:41 PM
I love it when fighters complain<3

I love stupid comments i guess <3 :rolleyes:

SweaterMittens
06-06-2009, 12:08 AM
I love stupid comments i guess <3 :rolleyes:

<3 I love you to.

imfrog2002
06-06-2009, 12:30 AM
I can agree with clerics taking forever... I've been grinding for 2 days, and just hit 20. I have friends that got 20 in 4 hours, no SC items. Still... Clerics can solo a ton of stuff because of Heal. Just ask people that have pt'd with me today. xP

YoshimaruOrona
06-06-2009, 12:34 AM
I can agree with clerics taking forever... I've been grinding for 2 days, and just hit 20. I have friends that got 20 in 4 hours, no SC items. Still... Clerics can solo a ton of stuff because of Heal. Just ask people that have pt'd with me today. xP

Lol wait for 9x.

2 days = 50% IF you have 100% xp boost, teva, and a damn good AoE duo/party that lasts for a minimum of 16 hours per day.

And that's just as a cleric's perspective. Mage is worse. They are doing ZERO grinding unless they can pt with someone or have PLENTY of cs pots to spam while they AoE.

traceurmouse
06-06-2009, 02:47 AM
Exora has my vote.. >.>

I'm Diplodocus btw, lol.

omnipotentnicky
06-06-2009, 03:23 AM
Rofl.
Exora. <3
You noooob.

Make us proud. xP

darthnish
06-06-2009, 03:34 AM
um archers are pve specalists, that's what they're best at. Why do you think the first to cap was a ranger?

EriAeris
06-06-2009, 05:44 AM
I'm pretty sure Clerics can handle stronger mobs better than the other mobs despite their skill of healing... so Clerics have their advantages... Fighters can also ummm... o.o; well yaps... that's all iGot to say but the race still goes on... at least reach the finish line despite the fact your 1/2 way there...

-_kira_-
06-06-2009, 05:59 AM
It's not just fighter... clerics too... something is wrong with you if you disagree to this tho :|

Also: this is first time I have made fighter ever, :/ I hate fighters, I have 7x cleric/mage/archer... If you have nothing creative to say on the topic, don't say anything at all. Your post was not useful, offtopic, and annoying.




My point exactly. Making it unfair for other classes in this "race"..

if u race and know fighter has smaller chance of wining the cap...then y did u choose fighter? u have tried other classes so u knew what the best and still choose fighter?
(nothing personal XD just asking )

Plushii
06-06-2009, 09:36 AM
yeah just go to RoA.
When my fighter was somewhere in his 50's I grinded there, when you charm up and have a aim scroll it's easy (though scrolls might still be a problem on cypion)

"despite me having cookie 24/7"

I hope that doesn't mean you play 24/7? >.>

fantinee
06-06-2009, 10:33 AM
It's a race. You should have been smarter about your class. The ones on top obviously thought it out.

we all know an archer and/or mages will be in the top3, but I plan to be the first "Knight" to cap ^^.

You aren't going for the top 3 anyway so I don't really understand why you made a thread.

fatalaxe
06-06-2009, 12:52 PM
I'll prove you that we mages can do lvl 70 to 80 in one day ^^

nasgax
06-06-2009, 02:40 PM
um archers are pve specalists, that's what they're best at. Why do you think the first to cap was a ranger?

Another reason why they should make it top3 of each class instead of overall, KNOWING that a specific class is going to win just confirms the unfairness of the race, especially to clerics.

I'm pretty sure Clerics can handle stronger mobs better than the other mobs despite their skill of healing... so Clerics have their advantages... Fighters can also ummm... o.o; well yaps... that's all iGot to say but the race still goes on... at least reach the finish line despite the fact your 1/2 way there...

Yes, clerics can handle stronger mobs, SLOWLY.

if u race and know fighter has smaller chance of wining the cap...then y did u choose fighter? u have tried other classes so u knew what the best and still choose fighter?
(nothing personal XD just asking )

Because I want to be Cypion's #1 tank. Same for players who made clerics and love to be the support in a party or duo. The race is unfair if you want to win and is forced to choose archer or else you stand no chance.


It's a race. You should have been smarter about your class. The ones on top obviously thought it out.



You aren't going for the top 3 anyway so I don't really understand why you made a thread.

I WAS GOING FOR TOP 3. Now I cannot cause archer and mage pass me. There is already a mage that is level65. This 'event race' is unfair if you have to choose archer only to be apart of it (or mage).

I'll prove you that we mages can do lvl 70 to 80 in one day ^^

Yes, we know you will <3.

ifap.
06-06-2009, 03:04 PM
Umm, Just want to say there is no winners for this event. Everyone spends more sc then they win lol.

nasgax
06-06-2009, 03:10 PM
Umm, Just want to say there is no winners for this event. Everyone spends more sc then they win lol.

so true, LOL

lolyina
06-06-2009, 04:07 PM
~.~ I can't believe you guys are still argueing about this. Noone put a gun to your head and forced you to participate in this event. Don't like the rules/guidelines don't participate. Simple as that. xD

firebolt126
06-06-2009, 04:18 PM
I'll prove you that we mages can do lvl 70 to 80 in one day ^^

Lvling god right there lol. :D

lordalden
06-06-2009, 04:21 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say "Your idea is bad!" or anything like that, but rather inform.

I understand this topic concerns Cypion, I'm not going to move it or close it with due regard to that fact(unless flaming or the like happens). Rather, I would seek to inform.

If you are concerned with the event, it may be more beneficial to either post to the event boards, or submit a ticket to the CSR Team with specific feedback on why you disagree with the event or why you think it's unfair. This will get the information more quickly and readily at the desks of those who thought up/executed the event idea.

Here's a handy-dandy link:

http://outspark.custhelp.com/app/ask

Thanks guys!

Sincerely,

lordalden

zoey199
06-06-2009, 04:24 PM
Btw just checking back in The highest above you that you get exp is 23 lvls the best is about 19 or 20 lvls above you

Andromeda
06-06-2009, 05:14 PM
Btw just checking back in The highest above you that you get exp is 23 lvls the best is about 19 or 20 lvls above you

Its definitely less than that Ive been power leveled myself and we came across that problem when I was still 15 levels below the enemy

luckywalker07
06-06-2009, 06:36 PM
You mention clerics but let me make a point about that.

The second highest lvl on bijou is a cleric, so ultimately, it's skill and dedication that allows for leveling, those racing to cap are gonna hit a point were it becomes too expensive to play solo (once they hit the 90's I assume). In the end they're gonna need a cleric and vice versa, this relationship helps the game and gives clerics the chance to win.

nasgax
06-06-2009, 08:37 PM
~.~ I can't believe you guys are still argueing about this. Noone put a gun to your head and forced you to participate in this event. Don't like the rules/guidelines don't participate. Simple as that. xD

You phail to realize the whole point of the thread. :/


Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say "Your idea is bad!" or anything like that, but rather inform.

I understand this topic concerns Cypion, I'm not going to move it or close it with due regard to that fact(unless flaming or the like happens). Rather, I would seek to inform.

If you are concerned with the event, it may be more beneficial to either post to the event boards, or submit a ticket to the CSR Team with specific feedback on why you disagree with the event or why you think it's unfair. This will get the information more quickly and readily at the desks of those who thought up/executed the event idea.

Here's a handy-dandy link:

http://outspark.custhelp.com/app/ask

Thanks guys!

Sincerely,

lordalden


Thanks alot lordalden, I just wanted to see other Cypion's view on this. But now I know about this I will be posting over there :o

lordalden
06-06-2009, 08:59 PM
One other thing, you could also head over to the Event Discussions forum and post regarding the event there as well, but typically speaking the CSR's can get it to the event planners when it shows in their inbox.

lolyina
06-06-2009, 09:38 PM
You phail to realize the whole point of the thread. :/





Thanks alot lordalden, I just wanted to see other Cypion's view on this. But now I know about this I will be posting over there :o




Hmmm. No I don't. xD Kthxbaii. Happy lvling.:D

Chewy
06-07-2009, 09:48 AM
lmao this whole event is "unfair" to a majority of people, think about those that wanted to try but cant afford the CS as you guys can o: it's really no more unfair than that. Actually I think it's more fair, since it's simply ingame usage of your character. Fighters have nearly everything going for them in this game lmao, so don't make it sound like fighters and clerics are getting the short end of the stick, and as for clerics, it's more than possible, cleric duo ftw <3

Perhaps you could find a mage/archer to duo with, have a party just wreck places, since there aren't many people where you guys are. My point is, in every game there are classes that are just better and grinding than others, it's just how it is, not every class can be equal in that respect, but it's still possible to find ways to be the first to cap or whatever, even if you aren't the "best" grinding class.

dragon387
06-07-2009, 10:17 AM
You mention clerics but let me make a point about that.

The second highest lvl on bijou is a cleric, so ultimately, it's skill and dedication that allows for leveling, those racing to cap are gonna hit a point were it becomes too expensive to play solo (once they hit the 90's I assume). In the end they're gonna need a cleric and vice versa, this relationship helps the game and gives clerics the chance to win.



but when those mages archers fighters hits lv 90's the clerics will be around 70-79, so they wont get any exp... means the clerics must be high lvl also, and the reason why the second highest was a cleric is because he/she had time to get to 89 lol, now no one is gonna wait until hundreds of capped characters will be out there...

nasgax
06-07-2009, 01:44 PM
lmao this whole event is "unfair" to a majority of people, think about those that wanted to try but cant afford the CS as you guys can o: it's really no more unfair than that. Actually I think it's more fair, since it's simply ingame usage of your character. Fighters have nearly everything going for them in this game lmao, so don't make it sound like fighters and clerics are getting the short end of the stick, and as for clerics, it's more than possible, cleric duo ftw <3

Perhaps you could find a mage/archer to duo with, have a party just wreck places, since there aren't many people where you guys are. My point is, in every game there are classes that are just better and grinding than others, it's just how it is, not every class can be equal in that respect, but it's still possible to find ways to be the first to cap or whatever, even if you aren't the "best" grinding class.


Kinda hard for cleric (that wants to win the race) tries to find a partner and most of the time, the cleric will look for an archer or mage that is dedicated to the race also, most of the time that archer or mage will say no cause xp a lot better solo.

leobaloy
06-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Meh, probably. Which is why my goal isn't to be the first character to cap, it's to be the first Knight to cap.

Funny how you complain now

huntmasteravatar
06-07-2009, 03:28 PM
I wonder how much money the losers of the race spent on SC? Seems like the only real winners of the race is, you guessed it! OS!.;)

Good luck to all involved!:D

nasgax
06-07-2009, 07:54 PM
Funny how you complain now

Another unnecessary reply WOOT~, next time stick to the topic please. Your posting makes you look more childish hehe. ;)

Chaola
06-08-2009, 02:07 AM
It's not just fighter... clerics too... something is wrong with you if you disagree to this tho :|

Also: this is first time I have made fighter ever, :/ I hate fighters, I have 7x cleric/mage/archer... If you have nothing creative to say on the topic, don't say anything at all. Your post was not useful, offtopic, and annoying.




My point exactly. Making it unfair for other classes in this "race"..

I wonder why your OS profil show a level 47 fighter in Bijou...

You are apparently used to every other class, then why choose a fighter for the race ?

Everybody entering seriously the race know about the game, and the differences between classes.

Groups, duos, trios have been made.

If you wanted to solo all the way, you should have choose archer. If you had a mage friend, you could have go tank all the way.

And, iirc, the first to reach 79, was Q, a fighter in Bijou.

nasgax
06-08-2009, 12:29 PM
I wonder why your OS profil show a level 47 fighter in Bijou...

You are apparently used to every other class, then why choose a fighter for the race ?

Everybody entering seriously the race know about the game, and the differences between classes.

Groups, duos, trios have been made.

If you wanted to solo all the way, you should have choose archer. If you had a mage friend, you could have go tank all the way.

And, iirc, the first to reach 79, was Q, a fighter in Bijou.

1. I have another acc with my main chars DUUUHHHH.

2. ""If you wanted to solo all the way, you should have choose archer."". THAT is the whole point of this thread. The fact that EVERYONE says, "choose archer if you want to win the race" just CONFIRMS that the top3 needs to be changed if its going to be ONLY archers. It is unfair to those that DONT want to play archer and STILL want to be in the race.

3. Q won cause there was no abyss at the time, hardly any greens, hardly any +9's, archers couldnt kite, there wasn't many good "duos" at the time cause it was mostly TEAMWORK in parties (not solo/duo).

4. when abyss came out, it took leveling to a new level. whole bunch of mobs, weaker then field mobs, gives more xp and drops then field mobs, so the idea to level up fast is the class that can gather these abyss mobs faster and kill them in big numbers faster.

ahtai
06-08-2009, 04:16 PM
Part of the very reason I have no intention to go for the race at all. I love my cleric, the other 3 are helping me geather material. I have full intension to be the first getting most in game money ^-^ Murchant forward

paradoxtwin1
06-08-2009, 05:13 PM
not read the entire thread but most of it just to get the jist.

you cant very well complain that fighters arn't going to get the cap first and that archers are going to win because thats an obvious thing to solve, make an archer to win the money then make the fighter or cleric or whatever to take advantage of all the free sc you win.

Its kind of like saying "right we have this race, theres the tall african who can run faster than a cheetah (the archer) or hey why dont we bet on that crippled midget (cleric) he's bound to win me some money" sure the midget will finish eventualy but it wont be first when against the athlete who is built for this sort of race... lol not that im saying clerics are disabled or challenged in the height department its just an analogy for this whole race thing and leveling speeds.. no offence meant to anyone.

vizzerdrixx
06-08-2009, 09:58 PM
funny how everybody keeps saying "archers will win the race" when theres only two 6x archers and one dropped out of the race and mages are the most populated 6x and now 7x class and ultimately the highest lvl. an archer can kite yes but it CANT compete with a mage solo aoeing with cookies / full +9s

Andromeda
06-08-2009, 10:26 PM
funny how everybody keeps saying "archers will win the race" when theres only two 6x archers and one dropped out of the race and mages are the most populated 6x and now 7x class and ultimately the highest lvl. an archer can kite yes but it CANT compete with a mage solo aoeing with cookies / full +9s

Lets see what happens when these Mages hit Lv 91 then :)

vizzerdrixx
06-09-2009, 01:20 AM
you guys are really clung to a really trashy class

Andromeda
06-09-2009, 03:44 AM
you guys are really clung to a really trashy class

Should've expected a reply like that judging by your profile a completely biased opinion towards Mages.

Chaola
06-09-2009, 03:58 AM
1. I have another acc with my main chars DUUUHHHH.




Also: this is first time I have made fighter ever,

It's obviously not your first fighter DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH.


2. ""If you wanted to solo all the way, you should have choose archer."". THAT is the whole point of this thread. The fact that EVERYONE says, "choose archer if you want to win the race" just CONFIRMS that the top3 needs to be changed if its going to be ONLY archers. It is unfair to those that DONT want to play archer and STILL want to be in the race.


There is no point in this thread. Each class has the strong points and weaknesses. This is a race. Either you choose the best leveling class, or you stick to your favorite class.

Your choice.


3. Q won cause there was no abyss at the time, hardly any greens, hardly any +9's, archers couldnt kite, there wasn't many good "duos" at the time cause it was mostly TEAMWORK in parties (not solo/duo).


Nobody says you couldn't party/duo.

A mage could have beat him, in duo with a cleric. Q still won. Being a fighter.


4. when abyss came out, it took leveling to a new level. whole bunch of mobs, weaker then field mobs, gives more xp and drops then field mobs, so the idea to level up fast is the class that can gather these abyss mobs faster and kill them in big numbers faster.

Why not do a mage ?

By your definition of "leveling", mages are the only ones good there.

The point is : you entered knowingly the race. You had more than enough time to plan ahead, choose your class.

You said fighter is not your favorite class, but you have still choosed it for the race.

Deal with it.

Stop whining.

yaseeda
06-09-2009, 04:27 AM
Actually, i expected that 75% of new server population would be archers because they easiest to lvl and thats their well known advantage over other classes.
Guys... Fighter/cleric have no chances wining this race. Mage has slight chance to take 3rd place if he accompanied by cleric, but 1st and 2nd places would be taken by archers... >.>.....

Oh and winners, plz keep track of how much u spending sc to win race, i am curious, will u exceed 1mil prize or no :D

darthnish
06-09-2009, 05:40 AM
people who picked archers were smart.

Xylvion
06-09-2009, 08:22 AM
to much to read...
okay think for yourself...
mages that solos in the 60+ really smells if they don't use sc
<--- used full +9's since lvl 54 and started to use sc at 83 when i felt like capping first on teva.
so uhm with my +9's w/o t3 pots i died o.o i used a lot of t3's also, this server is new... there prolly aint a single person that can do t3's and theres no potmakers either...
the people that will cap first is sc users or an archer...
clerics can solo 1-60 pretty fast w/o sc so with 100% they should be able to get to 70 solo pretty fast but then they'll slow down o.o

so mages smells at soloing at 60+ :D
archers and fighters got the best chance to cap first then the mage prolly and then the cleric o.o

but anyways~~

nasgax
06-09-2009, 10:09 AM
It's obviously not your first fighter DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH.

I ment that I never had fighter as a main. I only had it for PKK in the low level abyss for friends. So get off my back already. And why does it matter to you that if I had a nub fighter in the past or not? Get over yourself.


There is no point in this thread. Each class has the strong points and weaknesses. This is a race. Either you choose the best leveling class, or you stick to your favorite class.

Your choice.

GTFO of my thread if you do not understand the thread. There is no chance in HELL that a fighter or fighter/cleric can win this race. Simple as that. How about you have a fighter, and try to get level 70+ within a week. (no greens, no +9, no parties) kthxbai.


Nobody says you couldn't party/duo.

A mage could have beat him, in duo with a cleric. Q still won. Being a fighter.

erm, a cleric duo with a fighter would be WORST. I would still be gathering the same amount of mobs, still be killing the same speed, and getting less xp with the cleric. Q won cause fighter is better at PvE in FIELDS NOT ABYSS when it comes to grinding.


Why not do a mage ?

By your definition of "leveling", mages are the only ones good there.

The point is : you entered knowingly the race. You had more than enough time to plan ahead, choose your class.

You said fighter is not your favorite class, but you have still choosed it for the race.

Deal with it.

Stop whining.

I have never said mages were the best. Nor the worst. Mage/Cleric seems to be the best at leveling together (ofc) and archers for solo are good for leveling fast. BUT NOT FIGHTERS. Why are you so against the rules changes from the top3 overall to the top3 of each class. 1 more negative post from you and I will ask for it to be removed. kthxbai

nasgax
06-09-2009, 10:11 AM
people who picked archers were smart.

another reason why I ask for the top3 to be changed for each class instead of top3 overall. thank you.

Sharlyne
06-09-2009, 01:57 PM
off topic nasga log plz D: or check os email box D:<

shadowslayer1234
06-09-2009, 02:32 PM
you fail to realize that it becomes increasingly harder for mages to level around 7x without a party. Charms can do them really well up to about 6x and that's when they really become party dependent. charms + scrolls can only help a mage so much, trust me as a lv 75 mage with good END/DEX gears I still can't AOE as much as I can with a cleric. The only way I see a mage winning this race is they could ensure a cleric that they'd definitely get 2nd place if they played together 95%-100% of the time. Archers are the best soloers imo and that's why personally believe they'll reach the cap first on Cypion.

OMG everyone for the last time

you chose what class you got to

be at the







beginning!

lordalden
06-09-2009, 04:26 PM
Well, we can't play nice here anymore, so we won't play anymore on this thread. {Closed for less than appropriate replies and the like.}