Comunity needs answers, skill nerfing, why they staff never responds?

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

well ill leave the links here so all can inform what happened

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123234&page=5

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202708

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205381

well the main idea is that im here to complain about lack of skills, skill effects, etc..

i think its time to fix them and give the players the game they deserve, we have the official site
http://www.fiestaonline.net/guide/listSkill.asp?classType=2

that is the guide for all versions, and if you have same line as ever " this is not the same version as all" this is the neutral site with all the info about Fiesta no matter which version..

i think its also time to fix the game in order to make a greater gaming community and think less in today's earning of spark cash stuff, hopping i wont be closed again since i only look forward for a better game, and if the staff cant handle it, just let me know..

[KateeHellen]

You ask for impossible...
I am more as sure that everything what you recive will be "OS is not obligated to implement anything over what is already added".
It is look like you purchase in travel agency ticket for fantastic cruise over the world but when you arrive to harbor instead of luxury Sea Liner you boarding defected ship and crew onboard told you that she have no duty to serve you and if you will complain too much you will land overboard without life vest...
I give up my fight whit staff months <actually it will be already over a half year> ago and moved to other game.
However i wish you Good Luck in your effort, maybe you will have more luck...

[drigr_x]

You ask for impossible...
I am more as sure that everything what you recive will be "OS is not obligated to implement anything over what is already added".
It is look like you purchase in travel agency ticket for fantastic cruise over the world but when you arrive to harbor instead of luxury Sea Liner you boarding defected ship and crew onboard told you that she have no duty to serve you and if you will complain too much you will land overboard without life vest...
I give up my fight whit staff months <actually it will be already over a half year> ago and moved to other game.
However i wish you Good Luck in your effort, maybe you will have more luck...

Interesting cruise idea. Thanks for giving me something to spin off of... You buy a ticket for an amazing cruise. You arrive at a great looking ship. You walk into your room and there's no bed. They didn't tell you that you would have a bed (even though other cruises have them). Just because other versions have other things doesn't mean WE will.

[KateeHellen]

Based on assumption that OS truly is not obligated to add new skills let me ask a question.
Can you imagine lvl 120 <perhaps one day such level will be added BUT "Outspark is not obligated to add new cap level..." so someone in OS staff might decide that current level (good luck if 30% gamers will reach him) is in off for next 4 years for example?> character whit +90 skills?
Saying that it will depend ONLY from good will of staff if players recive any new skills can be very dangerous because it might turn in effect that OS is not obligated to add any kind of updates <except CS> and that might lead to quick end of the game.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

just saying what is necessary and fair, if you consider Cleric particular case, never had upgrades from 59-79 until 89 cap, no new heals, no bash, party buffs, etc, the cure lvl 60 was added on 105 cap, its just ridiculous, and i say instead of doing so much sparkcash stuff, fix those little things that dont need to wait that long to be fixe, we waited almost 1 year for light pillar quest to be fixed, if you point thigns like that to be fixed, even 1 by 1, game could be fully unbugged atm

[Devilboy83]

Have you tried submitting a ticket about the issue of missing skills, that has been suggested to you numerous times?

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

they never said nothing, they just evade the question, as always and doing it privately is like selfish at least for what i think, if they put in on public they wont be able to step back, and if you notice in 1 of my links even CSR joker himself don't acomplish with his promise, he just evade the thing, why do you think a gm or staff member dont post here and say something? they even loose time doing useless answers like why heavy spark cash users have stolen names on new server.. i wont wait another 8 months for something they should have already added

[Kizuku]

A slap in the face with a detailed explanation and well-explained sub-points is still a slap in the face, you know. Honestly, what is with all of these people who just seem to love making Outspark look bad? What's that going to accomplish? I know there's heavy cause for complaint in this game, however making demands doesn't really do much except perhaps cause contempt. I think you're almost completely right, even, but I don't really like how you're putting it. There have been thousands of demands already, and I don't remember them trying to speed up thier work by any one of them.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

if i may say again, they took 9 months to fix the pillar quest, almost a year to add clerics missing skills from 59-79 cap, 1 year to add cure lvl 60, i dont want to make them look bad, they do that to themselves, if they fix the game ill be the 1st Fan of them as i was time before when each second of fiesta was my passion, my delight, its a game im playing for 2 years, its part of my life, and i bet all of us want to have a happy life..

[KateeHellen]

A slap in the face with a detailed explanation and well-explained sub-points is still a slap in the face, you know. Honestly, what is with all of these people who just seem to love making Outspark look bad? What's that going to accomplish? I know there's heavy cause for complaint in this game, however making demands doesn't really do much except perhaps cause contempt. I think you're almost completely right, even, but I don't really like how you're putting it. There have been thousands of demands already, and I don't remember them trying to speed up thier work by any one of them.

I have learn that ONLY way to get staff attention is actually challenge thier "view of reality" and believe me or not i personally tryed many times post my concerns about in what way Fiesta is going in painfully civilized <using beloved by staff term> way but even this was not in off...
Did you ask yourself WHY count of complains is growing up?
It is not that "we love to make Outspark looking bad" but on the contrary, Outspark staff work personally for current situation severed almost permanent any contacts between them and community.
Not long before Christmas Sking posted here and promises us new opening in relations whit staff, but this remain empty promise like many other giving in the past and just because people start bashing Outspark about holiday event putting to pvp areas.<that event was one of the main reasons of my "divorce" whit Fiesta.>
In the past two years OS staff and his devoted supporters always have ready excuse why something cannot be done.
First it was "Because this is Open Beta", then when Fiesta become full released "We have no rights for any changes in game code" till latest "OS is not obligated to give anything over as is already in game".
Excuses, excuses and once more excuses...
They even made attempt to twisted information about reward Fiesta as Best MMO for BEGINNERS posted only first part and skipped part about beginners but they were very quick busted.
IS this how PROFESSIONAL game staff should act?
In current stance Fiesta is at the loosing position in competition whit other MMOs and it is time for staff to see this, otherwise one day current large stream of money for CS might dry up because PLAYERS <not customers> will move to other more attractive games...

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

dam i love this game i just want it to be fixed

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

Lol, getting ansewrs from OS? You have a better chance at winning the lottery, sprouting wings and being the first person on mars then that happening. Really I can only remeber one time when a staff member actually took time out of his schedual...actually his VACATION and sit down in a thread late at night and answered every question that was thrown at him. Im refering to when SKiNG came on the forums months back and did that. It was extremly thoughful of him.

Other then that though, OS dosnt do that stuff they are to busy ripping us off. Dangling us over a volcano as they give us an inch of rope for every buck.

(sorry spelling is bad x.x)

[fireyair]

Dmmit. Would the OP stop his incessant spamming and whining for once?

You are NOT helping the situation, all you've done is give forum members and Outspark employees a severe migrane.

Just lay off, none of your threads have advanced the situation at ALL, so stop it.



Peace:cool:

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

if you dont care its ok, but there is a lot of people that wants changues, if you are not part of it just dont post ty

[Kizuku]

Did you ask yourself WHY count of complains is growing up?
It is not that "we love to make Outspark looking bad" but on the contrary, Outspark staff work personally for current situation severed almost permanent any contacts between them and community.
Not long before Christmas Sking posted here and promises us new opening in relations whit staff, but this remain empty promise like many other giving in the past and just because people start bashing Outspark about holiday event putting to pvp areas.<that event was one of the main reasons of my "divorce" whit Fiesta.>
In the past two years OS staff and his devoted supporters always have ready excuse why something cannot be done.
First it was "Because this is Open Beta", then when Fiesta become full released "We have no rights for any changes in game code" till latest "OS is not obligated to give anything over as is already in game".
Excuses, excuses and once more excuses...
They even made attempt to twisted information about reward Fiesta as Best MMO for BEGINNERS posted only first part and skipped part about beginners but they were very quick busted.
IS this how PROFESSIONAL game staff should act?
In current stance Fiesta is at the loosing position in competition whit other MMOs and it is time for staff to see this, otherwise one day current large stream of money for CS might dry up because PLAYERS <not customers> will move to other more attractive games...

I'm not blindly devoted to Outspark (and I know you didn't say I was), but, I just want people to quit taking this so seriously as if we're living in some dark time or something. By playing this game, we're subjecting ourselves to the presence of whatever authorities are present. My question still stands. What are you going to do about it and how is complaining and pointing out all of thier flaws ever going to help? If Outspark were run by a bunch of 6 year olds, I'd still play the game because I love the game and even if the 6 year olds somehow ruined the game or made it unplayable, then I'd find something else to do. I didn't come to this game because of Outspark or to judge whether Outspark was a "worthy" company to play under, I came because the game looked interesting and at the time, I hadn't even heard of MMORPGs so I wanted to see what it was. I like Fiesta. Outspark is just there. No offense....

Anyway, as to the opening post/poster, yes, it's true that the game needs a lot more stuff in it. So what? No one's gonna disagree to that, really. I don't believe that Outspark disagrees to that either, but if they can't or won't get to it in time for...whatever, then that's just the way it goes. I think a lot of us are used to it by now.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

the fact we are getting used to it doesn't mean the way outspark is going is correct..and i will love to see a staff answer, and i wont silence until they either speak with us with truth and give concrete answers or they just say they dont care anything else than money.

[mredlodge]

A slap in the face with a detailed explanation and well-explained sub-points is still a slap in the face, you know. Honestly, what is with all of these people who just seem to love making Outspark look bad? What's that going to accomplish? I know there's heavy cause for complaint in this game, however making demands doesn't really do much except perhaps cause contempt. I think you're almost completely right, even, but I don't really like how you're putting it. There have been thousands of demands already, and I don't remember them trying to speed up thier work by any one of them.

if i may say again, they took 9 months to fix the pillar quest, almost a year to add clerics missing skills from 59-79 cap, 1 year to add cure lvl 60, i dont want to make them look bad, they do that to themselves, if they fix the game ill be the 1st Fan of them as i was time before when each second of fiesta was my passion, my delight, its a game im playing for 2 years, its part of my life, and i bet all of us want to have a happy life..


I feel your frustration about the game content Hades but I have to agree with kizuku about your approach. I'm not sure why they omit some of the skills in this version but it's how they want to release it I guess. It's possible that they just don't know enough about thier own game, that they don't actually play the 'entire' game day in and day out to really see how everything works together. Kind of like how they pretty much let the production end of this game just about die out. I just don't think these things are important enough to them to pay much attention when looking at the big picture or overall game.

Now the light pillar quest I really think I can shed some light on for you(no pun intended). In total, that quest and all of it's parts give over 25 million exp when completed. They play with exp. rates/quests all the time in this game depending on where they want the majority of ppl to be focused and in what level range they want them to spend thier time in(look at DT for example). I think they are completely within thier rights to do this as well. What I would like to do though, is point this out to people whom it may not be so obvious to.

I think I explained it pretty good in this thread which was closed without the opportunity to respond to the CL's final statement. Initially, she said Helga's Tomb was closed about 1 month before the cap raise. I did however PM her and get her to edit her final post but she still used the phrase "around the time of the first half of cap raise"--I can tell you and be absolutely, 100% accurate when I say Helga's Tomb was closed during the April 22nd cap raise patch for those of you who don't remember.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205392&page=2


Like I said before, content is totally up to them. We as players have to decide if we want to play the game in it's current condition. Fiesta is a really fun game overall pre 8x/9x levels but what really concerns me is the way they target minors in this game. They won't take credit cards for payment(because you pretty much have to be an adult and be somewhat responsible to get one) but they will happily bill your cellphone for sc payments. Are there even any kids left between the ages of 13 and 17 who don't have a cellphone?

And here's what I think of thier minigames: (this thread also got shut down shortly after I started posting in it. I did look back and see the OP had requested it to be closed, so no wrong done there I guess.)

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205350&page=3

It's true, there are alot of ppl addicted to this game. Not so much for it's content but more because of the community and the friendships people have created over months and sometimes years of playing with each other. OS relys heavily on this aspect of the game to keep thier players coming back for more but even most casinos offer at least a phone number in some sort of superficial attempt to help people who might have a gambling problem...they don't let you buy chips by billing your cellphone....rofl.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

hey im just asking for the truth, as simple as that, they want to make this game better or just a dirty way to get money, the ethic and moral for doing business its not ok here, this game started with us, at least a lot of people that supported this game, and helped improving it with reports, time etc, and now with money, because we spend real money here, i think that at least what they can do its give us a good game, and all will be in peace again, i started to talk with Ons Os soft, if anyone else wanna complain why Outspark is doing a bad work and ruining the fame of this game, and maybe sinking the future of this game in another country, u can complain in here

http://www.onson.co.kr/eng/

There was a time when all the community dreamed about this game became the best one ever, even better than other payed games, we spend time here, we meet friends here, and now some 6 year old guy want to ruin that ? no way.. at least i have some loyalty to this game and ill try to make it better even if the President of Outspark decides the contrary.. ill keep the fight up

[CSR_Joker]

Hades, I have one reply to all your posts on all the threads, you have to forgive me for not going to each thread and type the same reply. Best way to deal with this is "bookmark this post" and when you address these issues in other threads come back here and read my reply:

We don't fix bugs at Otspark. We report the issues to the developer and work it out with them. If they happen to fix it right away then great, if not then everyone has to wait. Some bugs get fixed within 1 week some within 1 month and some never. it all depends on the nature of the issue, the developer's input and our recommendations along with other factors that i will not type here because like every business we have behind the scenes situations and decisions.

So the bottom like again for I don't know how many times each and every staff has mentioned in the past: we hear you, we report the issues, we work it out with the developer. If it gets addressed, YAY! if not, we move on to the next issue and so on and so forth.

Thank you.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

i would like to know then, why it is so hard to respond, i have waited for months for the conversation u said we will had, and i meannot just me, the community itself.

im aware you don't debugg the game, but since you pay for the game, the developers should do what you are asking right? yes im aware it takes time, but i dont think any company will take 1 year to fix something..

it is that hard to respond with one of your staff members why we have that way lack of content? excuse me if im rude (even if i sound ignorant) but i dont think that adding new boss rings after the ORc captain, new earings after Minidragon (GM kq doesnt count because they are the same as Minidragon) and so much other stuff i have been triying to say to your staff..

And since we are talkign with the truth i may ask, if you werent ready for the cap raise why you did it? tell me why there is no other way than grinding all day and using just cash shop store items to lvl? and why just by that time the DT quest were nerfed badly? and why mysteriously 100% exp card appeared? i know its a bussnies but i think company needs more Ethic and moral, consideration to players, and all start with "secret updates" which i think its weird that not even you know what comes in patch, or if its ok with the game, im not questioning ur abilities, im questioning the conduct of this company, you may its a free to play, but we the players are the ones who supported this game and make it grow, the company deserves to earn money im agree, but we expect a good game in exchange..
All the info are on my old posts, added on the 1st page of this thread
Is the lvl 95 cleric skill being added or no? and why? when? i think its not that hard to answer

[ChildOfFire]

im aware you don't debug the game, but since you pay for the game, the developers should do what you are asking right? yes im aware it takes time, but i don't think any company will take 1 year to fix something..


There is a bug that sometimes took years to solve. Depend on the size and complexity of the application/software.I've been working in software development for the pass 3 years and stating this according to my experience.


And since we are talking with the truth i may ask, if you weren't ready for the cap raise why you did it? tell me why there is no other way than grinding all day and using just cash shop store items to lvl? and why just by that time the DT quest were nerfed badly? and why mysteriously 100% exp card appeared? i know its a business but i think company needs more Ethic and moral, consideration to players, and all start with "secret updates" which i think its weird that not even you know what comes in patch, or if its ok with the game, i'm not questioning ur abilities, i'm questioning the conduct of this company, you may its a free to play, but we the players are the ones who supported this game and make it grow, the company deserves to earn money im agree, but we expect a good game in exchange..
All the info are on my old posts, added on the 1st page of this thread
Is the lvl 95 cleric skill being added or no? and why? when? i think its not that hard to answer

Yes, i would agree that what outspark lacking at the moment is the interaction between player and the staff. Any update, changes should be announced so that community aware and could give respond.Time for you guys to stop treating the community like a kids.

And since this game is FREE TO PLAY, player shouldn't NEED sc item to level up, but could use sc item to level up easily. The idea of "MUST HAVE" to level really downgrade the game. I would rather pay this game monthly if that would make this game balance and "playable" at least to the casual player like me.

On the other hand, stuff that happen lately make me think, does CSR,GL,GM did not get the updates news them self?

[drigr_x]

We just got a new server... Where was OS's pat on the back for that? Instead we go on bickering and putting them down... Sad...

And I dont feel that the cap was truly to rake in money... If they made it easy to reach new cap people would be capped by now and be bored and be sitting here going "GIVE US A NEW CAP! WE'RE BORED!" The cap is gonna take a while so that OS has time to hopefully work on the kinks already in place. Just let em take a break..

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

its not the lvl, its the quality of the game, and it had been going down since the 79+ cap

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

i wonder when they will be so kind to respond

[wunamon]

send a ticket then pray and wait. if not just have fun and bask in the glory that u tried :) .
it is up to them if they feel they need to explain anything they do to anyone.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

i did and no respond lol as if they care to show up when they have to loose all they have left

[zephyrwind]

We just got a new server... Where was OS's pat on the back for that? Instead we go on bickering and putting them down... Sad...

And I dont feel that the cap was truly to rake in money... If they made it easy to reach new cap people would be capped by now and be bored and be sitting here going "GIVE US A NEW CAP! WE'RE BORED!" The cap is gonna take a while so that OS has time to hopefully work on the kinks already in place. Just let em take a break..

You can't say it's gonna take awhile when someone is already capped and several are close to capping. Taking awhile is people barely reaching 100. They obviously wanted people to reach the cap, or spend tons of money trying to reach it by releasing a 100% exp boost.

Pat them on the back for a new server that is already cluttered with chaos because of that dumb SC race? Pat them on the back for bringing a new server that hasn't reduced lag, server population, or the harrassment people face daily on this game. I'll pat them on the back when they start doing something that's worth being given a pat on the back for.

[Celtic_Princess]

i did and no respond lol as if they care to show up when they have to loose all they have left

Please keep in mind Hades that tickets sometimes take several days to come back, and that there may be more pressing issues ahead of yours.

I have said this to you in a previous thread, but the respect issue and the involvment needs to go both ways. I used to work in a bar when I was around 19. If a customer were to come into my section and immediately insult me, harass me, accuse me, or yell at me...they would find themselves at the door again in short order.

Not hearing back immediately does not mean that you were ignored. In fact, long before I became a CL I pestered both Hal and Joker with my concerns about certain features of the game. It took a while, but I got very long, detailed, polite answers from both of them. So sit back and be patient for a little while.

BTW Zephyr- Server populations are often on Low and Medium now. Lag is often a combination of both their servers and your computer, and if you want something done about the players that harass, screenshot and report it. They are not able to sit on each map in every server 24/7 in order to watch over you, it is up to you to report players that violate the ToS.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

this is what i told ya what will happen, they keep saying they have nothing do with it, so i want to know who will respond? CSR say no, CLs cant, GMs dont even show, so who else??????


Dear Hades_Sith_Lord,

Thank you for contacting Outspark.com Customer Support!

Unfortunately we cannot provide any information regarding your question. I would like to clarify that Outspark.com Customer Support is here to help players with their technical/account issues. We are not at liberty to give out any information regarding various features in the game or planned for the future beyond what is already posted in the forums and on the website. We apologize that we could not help you directly with this issue.


Regards,

CSR Hal
Customer Support
www.outspark.com

[locomotion182]

lol at that response o.O

[Daevor]

That's why we need this (http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205940).

We will then at least know if it's in the pipeline or not.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

SO CLs since you are the only ones who responds, can you please tell us who will answer us? or all will keep saying that the ticket will solve all my issues...

[wunamon]

We just got a new server... Where was OS's pat on the back for that? Instead we go on bickering and putting them down... Sad...

And I dont feel that the cap was truly to rake in money... If they made it easy to reach new cap people would be capped by now and be bored and be sitting here going "GIVE US A NEW CAP! WE'RE BORED!" The cap is gonna take a while so that OS has time to hopefully work on the kinks already in place. Just let em take a break..

They didnt get a pat because adding a new server is not new contentent. It is simply avenue for more people. With the inclusion of the race to cap they simply cashing in on it. Anyway that's my opinion.

Did u know that u could make lvling take long and still make it fun. It could have been fun and easy to but they messed it up by nefing Bks and helgaits. By holding of features of the game because they hold sole right. I feel they are over doing the concept of creating the need. There is only one time which outspark really pulled that off perfectly. it was the time when they released the asian items. Who remembers that. Those sold very well. there was event an event where u got a buff from GM if u had any asian item equiped. Then after some time the game community was rewarded +35% exp for a week or so. What happened to that. make the game playable.

[goldhawk2]

I do think the staff stepping in more would help us alot....knowing if they sent in reports to OnsOnsoft about certain issues would relieve me anyway...and it would leave a window to argue why certain issues havent been sent in....

As to class balance ;/ I highly doubt OnsOnsoft is stupid enough to leave the classes unbalanced...

[spectershadow]

i know joker is doing the best he can, he posts alot on the forums that i see, and tries as hard as i can tell, to help people with issues, honestly hades, your harassing him, i bet he could send in a ticket >.> XD

but yeah, please stop harassing the mods, its gona lead to one thing, you getting in trouble =/

i personaly have used the ticket system many times, it always worked out in the end, to reporting a gltich, to reporting ks'ers and harassment

just gota give it time, everything works out in the end, weither it be for the good or bad, it will work out =]

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

im not harassing anyone, just telling that they cant come out with the truth, and that will end up with most of the "smart" players to became bored from the game and realize that we are all being ripped off, and i send a ticked, many times, the only response i got from all is:

Dear Hades_Sith_Lord,

Thank you for contacting Outspark.com Customer Support!

Unfortunately we cannot provide any information regarding your question. I would like to clarify that Outspark.com Customer Support is here to help players with their technical/account issues. We are not at liberty to give out any information regarding various features in the game or planned for the future beyond what is already posted in the forums and on the website. We apologize that we could not help you directly with this issue.


Regards,

CSR Hal
Customer Support
www.outspark.com

get ur own conclusions, i bet its not that hard to focus on a few game issues than just on taking out dozens of store stuff

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

wow almost a month and still cant respond this simple questions, why the only official skill missing is the cleric one? will it come? when? why not? but they do have time to release 10+ new store stuff... great.. another thing i read around there, the dragon tomb its harder now because it was restored to its formal high lvl dungeon, but why the exp is like for a lvl 40 quest? nonsense, this game is going down and quick.. its not a thing to be proud of

[GM_Straega]

OP, with all superfluous comments and complaints aside, I'll try to see if I can help in addressing your core issue here.

Do me a favor first.

DO NOT assume that we don't read threads and that we don't do the best we can to make changes that would cater to the community. Also, sometimes beating a dead horse will get you nowhere.

Keep in mind the following:

We are NOT Ons On Soft, that one should be quite obvious. As much as I'd love to see all the spells in their release become available to all of you here there are also balancing issues on our end that we have to maintain as well, since at this point, we don't match their listed level cap, meaning all classes in some way may be affected to ensure balance is maintained, even if it's not as explicit as a spell.

Though you may not see this, we're actually working pretty hard on getting new content all the time, and fixing the ones that we have, and no, that's content that DOES NOT include anything from the store.

With that in mind, I've inquired about the spell which I've been hearing about and I will get back to answering if I get a response.

I'd like to get back to you on the topic, so don't say anything that'll close the thread.

[ickyflix]

The thing that's bothering me is the crap OP is getting from other people for exercising his rights as a consumer. We, the players, as consumers of this product, have every right to criticize (and praise) the product in any way we choose, so long as it isn't harassment, etc. And from what I saw, the OP wasn't threatening or violent in any way. It may have been a bit whiny, but that's not against the law.

Personally, on the subject matter of the OP, I have no opinion. I don't care. I'm apathetic regarding any "problems" within the game, for now anyway. But I'd just like to point out that we are customers, especially if we're paying real-life money for in-game products. Therefore we have the right to complain and criticize anything we darn well choose to.

Again, that doesn't mean anyone has to fix the problems, or even agree, or for that matter even listen to us. They have just as much right to ignore us as we have to complain. However, we do have the right to say what we wish about it. So don't bash the OP for expressing his opinion, and exercising his rights as a consumer - even if he's annoying.

[Hemmes]

People should REALLY stop assuming everything.
Gm's dont hate us, no they dont. They have no reason to make our gaming experience less fun. You think they take no pride in what they do?
Most people here assume that everything that goes wrong or they dont get is because outspark staff is either lazy or incompetent. Honestly, if that where true, the game wouldnt be here.

Second, half a year ago there were quite a few threads saying how this was the end of Fiesta and things where bound to go wrong and everything was going down hill....Still here isnt it? With an extra server even.

Third, yes i think outspark has a devious way of making people buy spark cash. Some are slightly across the line (i would draft anyway). I have accepted this and since im smarter then that, stopped being bugged by it.

Finally, yes, the game needs improvements. I can get pretty **** when Fiesta doesnt work the way it should but all together, im pretty happy with it.
You have to give outspark credit for their hardwork, you know.

O yeah, thx for the responce Straega. ^_^

[lordkaizer]

keeping us waiting to fix 1 bug and didnt give us full patch for new cap (its been more then 2 months) and they didnt give cleric theres skill. how they do hard work if they messed up so much.

no offince but thats the truth.

[masmune54]

Well i for one believe that onsoft and outspark staff work there butt off yea they keep us waiting for certaint things but there should always be a reason for it. they cant release everything thats why theres different patches also releasing everything could crash the server. they use codes that may contain minor bugs or maybe even a huge bug. i say dont sweat it i rather have a smooth running server then a laggy crashing server thats not playable.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

thank you GM, that's the 1st answer that appear in eons about game balance issues asked by community, and i dont know much of the rest of staff, but the most active gm do hate the players, calling them loosers in shouts, i reported it but no actions taken, not even the response from CSR about it... weird thing..

And gm the hard work about new content don't mean store stuff everyday, i mean if OS could fix 1 important thing per each 10 cash shop items game will be fixed already..

i just wonder why its so hard to be kind and communicate with players..

going back to the main threath, clerics have had to wait between caps to try get the skills that are regular from the previous cap..

Example
at cap 59-79 no basic skills like heal, protect bash cure were added, not until the 89 cap
even the cure lvl 3 (lvl 60) was added at the 105 cap, excuse me but i think that's ridiculous, no offense but its not that hard to add 1 skill..

again thank you for listening

[drigr_x]

thank you GM, that's the 1st answer that appear in eons about game balance issues asked by community, and i dont know much of the rest of staff, but the most active gm do hate the players, calling them loosers in shouts, i reported it but no actions taken, not even the response from CSR about it... weird thing..

And gm the hard work about new content don't mean store stuff everyday, i mean if OS could fix 1 important thing per each 10 cash shop items game will be fixed already..

i just wonder why its so hard to be kind and communicate with players..

going back to the main threath, clerics have had to wait between caps to try get the skills that are regular from the previous cap..

Example
at cap 59-79 no basic skills like heal, protect bash cure were added, not until the 89 cap
even the cure lvl 3 (lvl 60) was added at the 105 cap, excuse me but i think that's ridiculous, no offense but its not that hard to add 1 skill..

again thank you for listening

Hello Community Member 1265374,

Maybe getting some respect from the staff would be easier if you should them respect. You don't even acknowledge them as a person. They ar simple "gm" to you. he GM's are in fact people and do have a name following that "GM_" tag. Why not use it more? Or would you like to be refered to in the way I have just done. As simply "Community Member" is someone is specifically talking to you.

Takes this into a real world situation. Would you be very inclinded to be nice and respectful to someone that simply refered to you as; "Kid", "Teen", "Adult", "Male", "Female", etc.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

the respect is there, but the trust is another topic, they lost it loooong time ago when they decided to cheat on player comunity

[GM_Straega]

Still waiting on an answer for this.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

still waiting @@

[android_25]

man lets drink some cup of tea maybe GM will come and drink with us

[GM_Nekopon]

Eh?


10char

[andrey1990]

Eh?


10char

Whut ?

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

lol we could have been drunk and sober again and it wouldnt have helped lmao, weird thing this things takes that long.. but i try to convince myself they are doing something and not just hiddding..

[mehe25]

I think it's time that the GMs actually take the time to answer the people's questions. Give reasons as to why or why not. And that should prevent wars and flames from going around or at least stop them from going further. Is all they do are events? Cause to be honest I can't think of anymore :/

[GM_Nekopon]

I've been communicating.

I've been here and I've responded.
Please stop saying I don't.

About the skills... I'll have to look into it.

[Bonthra]

I've been communicating.

I've been here and I've responded.
Please stop saying I don't.

About the skills... I'll have to look into it.

Dx YOU DON'T RESPOND AND -removed- Please don't hurt me. I wanted to make you grin. ^^; >.>

[GM_Nekopon]

Dx YOU DON'T RESPOND AND -removed- Please don't hurt me. I wanted to make you grin. ^^; >.>

Yes. Well, let's not be rude anyway.

Teehee?

EDIT: I saw your secret message. If not, I woulda flagged you for insulting. :p

EDIT#2: GRIN!

[Bonthra]

Yes. Well, let's not be rude anyway.

Teehee?

Aw, you didn't see my super-special-awesome secret message. ;~;

[Bonthra]

EDIT: I saw your secret message. If not, I woulda flagged you for insulting. :p

;~; But, but....... DANG EET! Now I've double posted. Curses, foiled again by GM_Nekopon, my arch-nemesis! One day, yes one day, I shall triumph over your... um... GM .... cuteness? Over your I-don't-yet-know-what!

EDIT: But were there any grins? At all? Even in the editing of the post? *more sad faces*

[heads]

;~; But, but....... DANG EET! Now I've double posted. Curses, foiled again by GM_Nekopon, my arch-nemesis! One day, yes one day, I shall triumph over your... um... GM .... cuteness? Over your I-don't-yet-know-what!

EDIT: But were there any grins? At all? Even in the editing of the post? *more sad faces*

I saw it. Nub.

[Bonthra]

I saw it. Nub.

O_O! <3!! XD Hiiiiiiii! I haven't seen you in ages!? How are you!? Are you coming back to Fiesta!??!?!?!??!?!?!

[raistlinmajeree]

Ya its sad outsparks about to lose a million players to some of the big name companies who are coming out with mmorpgs.

And all they had to do was somthing. Anything at elast make an attempt to help the community but your right they claim we don't tell them whats wrong ( thats total bs)

they evade and ignore our questions and quite honestly I don't see what most of them are being paid for other then to come up with money making strategies.

maybe its a cash grab before the game dies down ??

[Bonthra]

EDIT#2: GRIN!

Yay! I don't care if it's placation and/or humoring me. :3

[GM_Nekopon]

Hm. It seems all my replies are invisible or something of that sort.

We ARE working on the problems the community has proposed.

I did not say you guys don't tell me what's wrong. There's also a sticky thread for you to post down all bugs and glitches- but for those that doesn't want to post there, I read the forums constantly.

I haven't evaded and ignored your questions.

[Bonthra]

Hm. It seems all my replies are invisible or something of that sort.

Huh? Were you saying something? You know I <3 youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! ^^;

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

sorry but i have lost the faith, when i see results ill say OS is doing their job, until then game sucks

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

I think really the only problem with this game right now is server lag. Right now 1/2 of the players if not more in the major cities are always not on their computers and thats why the population is always so high. So I think that they need to make an auction house or something. A place where you can put items up for auction and then items up for fixed prices. Things like your +9s you could auction off and things like dusts could have fixed prices. This would cut down the lag a lot.

Then if that was implemented there could something that times a players time in one place with no activity and if they stood there doing absolutly nothing for say 15 min the game would log them off.

Second biggest problem is balancing, and skill bugs. Some skills need fixing others need more/less power, and tweaking.

I think new content is the least thing players want right now.

[Hades_Sith_Lord]

this is beyond ridiculous, 2 months and you can do a simple thing? is that hard to be honest? is that hard to say that company nerfs the game on purpose? the unbalance is on purpose? but hey they 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 new store items cant wait right?

[GM_Nekopon]

Necro post. -close-

[Shadowic2]

The Cash shop runs on its own schedule since that is the only thing Outspark has control over. Sales and new items will continue to come while Outspark is waiting for patches and such from the Developer's.

Not all fixes or changes can be done quickly. Believe it or not, but there are some bugs that can take months to resolve.

There are many things that Outspark and OnsOnsoft are working on to make things better. However, some things take a higher priority over others, some things take a very long time to resolve due to the process involved, and OnsOnSoft also has all of the other version of Fiesta and their own bugs and problems that may have priority over ours to resolve.

Just because you do not see anything done on this side of the fence does not mean that they aren't working on it on the other side. They cannot make every detail of their work lives public for everyone to keep tabs on.

Since this has Necro'd and I don't see this thread going anywhere due to the same things being said over and over again, I am going to close this.

There are stickies available if you'd wish to post bugs/changes/feedback.

Thank you.

-Closed-