I'm sorry, but you guys seem to have false hopes...

[revivaljade]

Hai, crazy levelers and/or Cypion Community ^_^.

State that I am contradicting myself if you must...
But, most players here have mistaken themselves into believing that whining/complaining about SC 'abusers' will change anything. The one thing your complaining is actually proving, is that you obviously are quite stupid in a way. What will your complaining do? Start fights? Arguments? Rivalrys? Way to go, son! It's not like Outspark will get rid of SC, and it's definitely not like the SC buyers will stop 'abusing' sparkcash. Are you out of your mind?

1. Yes, SC users will obviously level quicker and more efficiently than non cs users, but that is how Fiesta is. If you're not happy with it, then this is not the game for you.

2. Why do you think Outspark created a competition such as this? (Involving sparkcash) Seriously, think about it.

3. Complaining will only result in flames and server drama. I understand if you're upset about the whole SC thing, but don't inflict the damage upon others.

4. In the end, this whole race to 105 thing is a COMPETITION. Whining will only slow you down furthermore.

5. And, for goodness' sake, don't brag about having sparkcash, it won't help you in any way.

One or two threads discussing SC usage was enough, but now it's just getting tedious and annoying. Everyone is aware of the imbalance between SC vs Non-SC, so you can stop complaining and bringing it up. I'm sorry, but nothing is going to change.

P.S: I'm sorry if this thread may seem offensive in any way, I really do feel for both sides (SC Users/Non-SC users) but after a week, your forum already consists of hate/spam threads. Is this how you'd like to start off on a new server?

Please, don't flame or anything, I really do hope that the creation of this thread was in goodwill. I tried my hardest to sound polite, and so should you!

If someone wanted to know, the 1,000,000 sparkcash equals to USD $1428.57 (Thanks to leobaloy ^^)

EDIT: I don't think people are getting it. The sole message of this thread is to say that creating threads/complaining about how overpowered SC-users are won't result in anything but hate, flames and arguments. Although it is true that SC = Power, your complaining will not do anything. Nothing will change. If you can't accept that, Fiesta is not the game for you.

[thedark17]

Very concise argument; all true :P

I think the idea behind the 'race to 1 000 000' is that Outspark/OnsOnSoft will make more money than they give away, if i saw correctly someone calculated that 1 000 000 sc = around 1000 dollars. Im thinking they are gunna make some serious money :P

[Stacey]

I've bought my share of SC, and I'm not against it.

What I am against is the charms and such that create an imbalance. I don't really mind if they are used when grinding.

But some people just used them to bug and abuse others during PvP. SC abuse is fine in my eyes, but using it to ruin the game for others is not.

That is how I feel about SC.

[revivaljade]

Thank you. ^^

Yes, that is one of the reasons that Outspark has set up a competition such as the race to 105.

Reasons:

1) To make money. (1kk sparkcash actually equals to around $1450, Imagine how many people are buying hundreds or even thousands of dollars worth of sparkcash for the measly $1450 dollars of sparkcash)

2) To make people move to the new server.

3) To create the image that they do care about us as valued customers, aka such a big sum of sparkcash. (That they are generous, bla bla) I'm only guessing,

@ Stacey.
I totally understand where you're coming from, and I respect you for expressing your point on view in a courteous manner. And, I actually understand your point, it is completely valid, whereas what i'm against is people capitalizing their complaints, with no reasoning behind it whatsoever. Plainly a vain, idiotic excuse to flame and create arguments.

[ahtai]

True that's the only reason I like new server better than Apoline at the moment. It get to the point in Apoline is because my cleric is high level (playing her for 1.5 year T-T of dedication) and I have sc critic suit so that she can hit slightly better and level. People tease me just because I am picking mashroom to make scroll. It is like because I have sc, I don't need to make in-game money? Or because I have full scroll and sc on my mage, people don't even buff/heal her in KQ and in party?

[spazzyman45]

I've bought my share of SC, and I'm not against it.

What I am against is the charms and such that create an imbalance. I don't really mind if they are used when grinding.

But some people just used them to bug and abuse others during PvP. SC abuse is fine in my eyes, but using it to ruin the game for others is not.

That is how I feel about SC.

it is logical to use charms in abyss, which is a pvp enabled zone. if you are trying to grind and someone comes and tries to "share" your spot (i like to think of it as stealing) then it is completely fair to use charms to get them out. sure, there is no spot claiming, but who is nice enough to share a room when youre only getting 10%-20% per hour (when the heavy grinding starts)? honestly, people aren't nice in the real world, what makes you think that people won't charm so that they can grind in peace?

however, i do agree with the fact that using SC in straight PvP fights is useless. Aside from bragging rights, what do you gain from winning a battle in FBZ? wasting money on something that will get you nothing is completely illogical, in my opinion. And PvP should be a contest that shows who good players are and who are not. PvP should be based solely on skill, not on who can spend the most amount of money in a period of 5 minutes on cashpots and cookie packs. Yes, it may be very difficult to kill a 10k HP fighter at level 9x, but in the end, free PvP battles will gain you nothing.

Remember, all you wonderful players of Cypion, 90% charm is not a build ;)

thanks for listening to my endless rant xD

[nasgax]

4. In the end, this whole race to 105 thing is a COMPETITION. Whining will only slow you down furthermore.

LOLWUT. So you think this race is fair for everyone? That is what most of the "complaining" is about.

[fantinee]

Lana speaks the truth :O

[leobaloy]

LOLWUT. So you think this race is fair for everyone? That is what most of the "complaining" is about.

In case you didn't know, life isn't fair.

And 1,000,000 sc is the equivalent to USD $1428.57

[thedark17]

In case you didn't know, life isn't fair.

And 1,000,000 sc is the equivalent to USD $1428.57


wow and there goes zero layin down the reality Q.Q

ehh..

[lukaby]

In case you didn't know, life isn't fair.

And 1,000,000 sc is the equivalent to USD $1428.57

OMG, is that it?!?

Someone told me that Fatal has spent £60 on pots alone, so like, $120.

And that 1,000,000 will reduce too.



LOL, I just realised. This competition is a fail

[Sharlyne]

OMG, is that it?!?

Someone told me that Fatal has spent £60 on pots alone, so like, $120.

And that 1,000,000 will reduce too.



LOL, I just realised. This competition is a fail

some people just do it for the fame in game :p

[lukaby]

some people just do it for the fame in game :p

Ahaa, yeah, then that's okay.

I'm taking you did this? Are you permanently on Cyp now then?

[Sharlyne]

Ahaa, yeah, then that's okay.

I'm taking you did this? Are you permanently on Cyp now then?

i am and no im not on raise XD i wanna take my time lvl and meeting new people :3 and dedicating the time for guild :)

[ahtai]

OMG, is that it?!?

Someone told me that Fatal has spent £60 on pots alone, so like, $120.

And that 1,000,000 will reduce too.



LOL, I just realised. This competition is a fail

Base on my claculation, you will spent like 2K USD to win that 1K spark cash. So whoever want the win is just for fame, not money because it is totally not worth just for money.

And whoever can spent 2K probably don't need 1K US currency in spark cash ;)

[lukaby]

Base on my claculation, you will spent like 2K USD to win that 1K spark cash. So whoever want the win is just for fame, not money because it is totally not worth just for money.

And whoever can spent 2K probably don't need 1K spark cash ;)

Lol, you mean million not K, but yeah....

Ahaaaaa, what loosers.


(Not the people not in the comp ofc)

[spartan335]

what you said there is all true

SC is how outspark makes money...they wont just make a game and not use a way to make money off it. and think about it..if they were to get rid of SC then this game will turn from f2p to p2p..now p2p is just yuck!!!

[revivaljade]

what you said there is all true

SC is how outspark makes money...they wont just make a game and not use a way to make money off it. and think about it..if they were to get rid of SC then this game will turn from f2p to p2p..now p2p is just yuck!!!

Dear, this game should already be considered P2P.
Obviously, it is not needed to be able to log-in, but to experience the full... err.. 'enjoyment?' you do need sparkcash. I'm sure others would beg to differ, so this is only my opinion.

LOLWUT. So you think this race is fair for everyone? That is what most of the "complaining" is about.

Please point out where I stated it was fair.
Everyone knows this game isn't fair, only an idiot would say it were. And, obviously, I would not believe it to be fair, as I said in my earlier post, "Everyone is aware of the imbalance... "

I said it was a race, a competition. Competitions aren't necessarily fair.
Please don't pull out words from my mouth.. or in this case, my keyboard. ^_^

Also, did you even read the thread? I stated that I knew of the imbalance, I knew that it was harder for the non-SC users, I know and agree with what some of the people are saying. My message was that I think people should stop making useless threads about SC vs Non-SC, and posting in vulgar language about how 'biased' this competition is, as it only results in flame/spam/hate messages. So please read over my post and then comment back with what you'd like to say.

[lukaby]

Dear, this game should already be considered P2P.
Obviously, it is not needed to be able to log-in, but to experience the full... err.. 'enjoyment?' you do need sparkcash. I'm sure others would beg to differ, so this is only my opinion.



Please point out where I stated it was fair.
Everyone knows this game isn't fair, only an idiot would say it were. And, obviously, I would not believe it to be fair, as I said in my earlier post, "Everyone is aware of the imbalance... "

I said it was a race, a competition. Competitions aren't necessarily fair.
Please don't pull out words from my mouth.. or in this case, my keyboard. ^_^

Also, did you even read the thread? I stated that I knew of the imbalance, I knew that it was harder for the non-SC users, I know and agree with what some of the people are saying. My message was that I think people should stop making useless threads about SC vs Non-SC, and posting in vulgar language about how 'biased' this competition is, as it only results in flame/spam/hate messages. So please read over my post and then comment back with what you'd like to say.

1000000000% True.



I like this person :) Listen to her!

[yaseeda]

Hey so i was right and winner will spend more then he/she will earn? haha lmao :D

And yeah, 90% charms and 50% extender not build. pvp in fiesta complete fail><

[Passionapple]

Lulz, people complaining about cash shop is so last year. 8D

[revivaljade]

Hey so i was right and winner will spend more then he/she will earn? haha lmao :D

And yeah, 90% charms and 50% extender not build. pvp in fiesta complete fail><

Lulz, people complaining about cash shop is so last year. 8D

@Yaseeda
I'm guessing there's an 80% chance that the person will spend more than they have actually won, it really depends on how long they take to cap.

@Passionapple
Inorite? I remember complaining about the 50% charms alone. Now there's 90%? Hax. Lol.

[cisum_lived]

In my opinion, this problem could be solved if Outspark would allow players to sell SC items in personal vendors. There are some who will say this would ruin the game economy. However, if players could sell items in their shop, such as crit costumes, charms, SC pots, etc, then less people could complain about SC being unfair. Plus, people would have to buy these things from the cash store to sell them, so Outspark would make more money. Yes, SC users would have the opportunity to make a lot of in game money, but those who cannot afford SC would also have the ability to have some of the cool stuff too.

[Andromeda]

Inorite? I remember complaining about the 50% charms alone. Now there's 90%? Hax. Lol.

The highest is 70%

10% Guild buff and 10% damage from the weapon skin is NOT a charm.

[revivaljade]

The highest is 70%

10% Guild buff and 10% damage from the weapon skin is NOT a charm.

Yeah, I get it now. I got confused with everyone talking about 90% charms. Oki.

[Andromeda]

Charm of Might 50%
+
Charm of Might 20%
+
Charm of Def 20%
Charm of Str 20%
= 90% Charm.

It doesn't work like that the last 2 won't stack people either think they do or they think that 10% guild buff and weapon skins are counted as a charm.

[lukaby]

Hey so i was right and winner will spend more then he/she will earn? haha lmao :D

And yeah, 90% charms and 50% extender not build. pvp in fiesta complete fail><

It doesn't work like that the last 2 won't stack people either think they do or they think that 10% guild buff and weapon skins are counted as a charm.

You can go 20% (STR) + 20% (DEF) + 20% (Might) + 50% (Cookie) = 90%

[revivaljade]

@lukaby
That's what I thought?

@Andromeda
I live in Sydney! :D

[Andromeda]

You can go 20% (STR) + 20% (DEF) + 20% (Might) + 50% (Cookie) = 90%

Been there tried that myself and quite a few other people tested alot of combinations and came to the conclusion it wasnt possible.

[lukaby]

Been there tried that myself and quite a few other people tested alot of combinations and came to the conclusion it wasnt possible.

But they do physically stack. If you go, 50%, then 20% (might) the other 2 don't stack however.

[Andromeda]

But they do physically stack. If you go, 50%, then 20% (might) the other 2 don't stack however.

Did you actually see the boosted stats higher than 70%? Because I sure didn't I remember King_Obito or was it Jerry said that it lasts only a few seconds before its reverted back to 70%

[lukaby]

Did you actually see the boosted stats higher than 70%? Because I sure didn't I remember King_Obito or was it Jerry said that it lasts only a few seconds before its reverted back to 70%

Next time I charm (today) I'll take screenies before, during and after.


So, you're saying 50 (cookie) + 20% (Might) // OR // 20% (def) + 20% (str)

It doesn't matter if its might or the other 2 combined?

[Andromeda]

Next time I charm (today) I'll take screenies before, during and after.


So, you're saying 50 (cookie) + 20% (Might) // OR // 20% (def) + 20% (str)

It doesn't matter if its might or the other 2 combined?

There was no difference in my stats at all when I tried it the highest I got was 70% they always seemed to cancel the other one out or made it not possible altogether (With that error in the bottom right of the screen)

[Chaola]

Talked to someone about it, and apparently there is a certain way to follow in order to get the 90% o.o

Unfortunatly, I don't know it :(

[lukaby]

There was no difference in my stats at all when I tried it the highest I got was 70% they always seemed to cancel the other one out or made it not possible altogether (With that error in the bottom right of the screen)

Talked to someone about it, and apparently there is a certain way to follow in order to get the 90% o.o

Unfortunatly, I don't know it :(

Yeah, when you go 50% (Cookie) + 20% (might) it wont allow any further charms, however, I just tried it and it allows me to go:

20% (STR) + 20% (Def) + 20%(Might) + 50% (Cookie) So that is 90% dmg/def.

And it does look almost double.

As I said, I'll screenie this with 90% (Aparently)

and compare it with my stats with 50% + 20% might = 70%.

[Chaola]

You might want to take a screenie of your stats for each charming up (20%,40% and 90%)

[lukaby]

Yeahh.

ATM, I've just done with 50%.

All screenies will be no buffs or cleric to keep it controlled.

I'm thinking if i should make a new thread for it, for future reference.

[yaseeda]

Better make new thread, i am also now interested in this research.

[Chaola]

Yeah, make it maybe in the Items thread ? or gameplay ? :confused:

[lukaby]

ATM I go the following:

- 50% + 20% might. (interestingly, after having 50% on, it only allowed me to use a might instead of 2 individual def/str)

- 50% alone



And I need

- 20% (might or str/def)

- 0% (nothing at all)

- 90% (aparently)

anything else?

[yaseeda]

Make sure u using same gears/full or half of love buff/same or no party buff and same or no guild buff. Thats to make experiment 100% fair^^

[speed_grapher]

but who is nice enough to share a room when youre only getting 10%-20% per hour (when the heavy grinding starts)? honestly, people aren't nice in the real world, what makes you think that people won't charm so that they can grind in peace?



First of all Me XD i have shared rooms at high lvls ( notes i had another account but i deleted all the characters)! XD and then yeah charm if you want kill me if you want what did that gain for you at all? a bit of amusment?

[omnipotentnicky]

what you said there is all true

SC is how outspark makes money...they wont just make a game and not use a way to make money off it. and think about it..if they were to get rid of SC then this game will turn from f2p to p2p..now p2p is just yuck!!!

This dood knows that he's talking about.
Us people that buy SC basically pay for you to play.
So don't complain to us when we use our SC privilege to kill you once or twice.

If OS really cared about what was fair in game, most of those items you complain about would be taken out. But they get profit from those that buy SC, you don't, so if you quit, do you think they'll be missing out on much?

Free to play games have their pros & cons. Don't like it, move to WoW. LOL.

[lukaby]

This dood knows that he's talking about.
Us people that buy SC basically pay for you to play.
So don't complain to us when we use our SC privilege to kill you once or twice.

If OS really cared about what was fair in game, most of those items you complain about would be taken out. But they get profit from those that buy SC, you don't, so if you quit, do you think they'll be missing out on much?

Free to play games have their pros & cons. Don't like it, move to WoW. LOL.

OMGAWD!


Epically pwned to all you haters.

See, I'm slightly different. I take advantage of SC and buy everything I need to win. But I hate it when other people do.

Hypocricy FTW :)

[omnipotentnicky]

OMGAWD!


Epically pwned to all you haters.

See, I'm slightly different. I take advantage of SC and buy everything I need to win. But I hate it when other people do.

Hypocricy FTW :)

LMAO.
Exactly.
I mean, buying SC doesn't mean we own the game.
Or whatever, we can just level easier, look better, and just plain beat you.

ROFL. Sorry, thought that was funny.
In no way to be taken offensively. xP

[lukaby]

LMAO.
Exactly.
I mean, buying SC doesn't mean we own the game.
Or whatever, we can just level easier, look better, and just plain beat you.

ROFL. Sorry, thought that was funny.
In no way to be taken offensively. xP

Lulz, no offence taken =]

That should be the new argument now though.

NonSc-User: OMG***!111!! u use cash shop u cheat fite me fair noob
Me: ...My characer is sexier than yours.

*I walk out of abyss*
NonSc-User: Damm.. He's right D:

'nuff said.

[lukaby]

Did it.

Max is 70.

Proof and screenies - http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2402325

(Link in siggy)

[nasgax]

In case you didn't know, life isn't fair.

And 1,000,000 sc is the equivalent to USD $1428.57

that is the worst related comeback I have seen. And by the way. What do you have against me? Seems that I always see you do negative replies to ME always. Stop stalking me? please?

[lukaby]

that is the worst related comeback I have seen. And by the way. What do you have against me? Seems that I always see you do negative replies to ME always. Stop stalking me? please?

TBH, I felt that the USD conversion thing was to everyone. I for one found it informative.

Also, the "life isn't fair" thing is true.

[leobaloy]

that is the worst related comeback I have seen. And by the way. What do you have against me? Seems that I always see you do negative replies to ME always. Stop stalking me? please?

That wasn't meant to be a comeback, all I did was state two facts.
I use comebacks when i'm in an argument, which...i'm not lol. And is the truth that negative?

Always? Chill out you're getting paranoid this is going to be the third time I quote you. And stalking you? You wish buddy xD

TBH, I felt that the USD conversion thing was to everyone. I for one found it informative.

Also, the "life isn't fair" thing is true.

I'm just posting two facts, he takes it personal just because I quote him.

[Sharlyne]

all i gotta say is dont buy sc dont wear anything related to sc for 2 months and see how you feel ^^ then come back and reply again on the thread again @_@

[dutchboy.h2]

...you do realize you have to do it in 4 weeks to get the whole million :D

[YoshimaruOrona]

all i gotta say is dont buy sc dont wear anything related to sc for 2 months and see how you feel ^^ then come back and reply again on the thread again @_@

I've been doing that for months .-.

I think I've spent 14/16 months on this game with no sc *-*

<~ Bored and felt like saying that o.O (But it's still the truth.)

[revivaljade]

LMAO.
Exactly.
I mean, buying SC doesn't mean we own the game.
Or whatever, we can just level easier, look better, and just plain beat you.

ROFL. Sorry, thought that was funny.
In no way to be taken offensively. xP

I apologise, but that was completely unnecessary, and a tad annoying.
I already pointed out that the gameplay is easier for SC-users, and bragging about yourself over having sparkcash items to make it easier for you/make your character look nice is hardly anything to be proud of.

"Hi. Stop complaining, because I pay for you to play, I have the money, so I level easier, look hotter and beat you at pretty much everything in game. No offence." That's pretty much what you're saying.

Well yeah, you kind of remind me of those stereotyped dumb cheerleader chicks from the cheesy american teenager movies. No offence.

P.S: It's true that most of the time, SC-users are OP compared to non-SC users, but it's really funny, sometimes you see a player completely free of CS parading around fbz owning all the cash shop users.

[lukaby]

I've been doing that for months .-.

I think I've spent 14/16 months on this game with no sc *-*

<~ Bored and felt like saying that o.O (But it's still the truth.)

It's different scenario.

When you're used to having every SC you need, and then go to nothing. You know exactly what you're missing out on and can feel the effects.

However, for you. If you've never used it, then it's different, you don't have as much as an idea as what you're missing out on, as you've never experienced it long term; there's no loss involved.

[nasgax]

It's different scenario.

When you're used to having every SC you need, and then go to nothing. You know exactly what you're missing out on and can feel the effects.

However, for you. If you've never used it, then it's different, you don't have as much as an idea as what you're missing out on, as you've never experienced it long term; there's no loss involved.

Sooooo true!

[clickdeath]

It's different scenario.

When you're used to having every SC you need, and then go to nothing. You know exactly what you're missing out on and can feel the effects.

However, for you. If you've never used it, then it's different, you don't have as much as an idea as what you're missing out on, as you've never experienced it long term; there's no loss involved.

Yet, it seems that all of those who played the game without utilizing sparkcash seem to be the ones who are able to play their class infinitely better than those who rely on SC... Case in point, try partying with one of the old school tanks or clerics from 59 Cap... The difference between them and someone who relied on SC is horrifying.

[lukaby]

Yet, it seems that all of those who played the game without utilizing sparkcash seem to be the ones who are able to play their class infinitely better than those who rely on SC... Case in point, try partying with one of the old school tanks or clerics from 59 Cap... The difference between them and someone who relied on SC is horrifying.

Lolz yeah it's logic.

Extenders for example.

Tank with extenders knows he can rely on his or her HP to take hits

Tank w/o extenders realises he hasn't as much HP so works harder.


However, nowadays, the people who do 1000000% utilize SC items will ofc be better in their jobs than the little or no SC users as the wonders of SC is uber godly.

[KungFuHobo]

*yawn* I only read the first couple pages but lemme take a crack at this o.<

I've bought my share of SC, and I'm not against it.

What I am against is the charms and such that create an imbalance. I don't really mind if they are used when grinding.

But some people just used them to bug and abuse others during PvP. SC abuse is fine in my eyes, but using it to ruin the game for others is not.

That is how I feel about SC.

So your Pro-Charms when it involves faster grinding (Possibly preferred when the charmer is grinding in a party with you?)

but when the charms are being used against you, its urkesome?

it is logical to use charms in abyss, which is a pvp enabled zone. if you are trying to grind and someone comes and tries to "share" your spot (i like to think of it as stealing) then it is completely fair to use charms to get them out. sure, there is no spot claiming, but who is nice enough to share a room when youre only getting 10%-20% per hour (when the heavy grinding starts)? honestly, people aren't nice in the real world, what makes you think that people won't charm so that they can grind in peace?

however, i do agree with the fact that using SC in straight PvP fights is useless. Aside from bragging rights, what do you gain from winning a battle in FBZ? wasting money on something that will get you nothing is completely illogical, in my opinion. And PvP should be a contest that shows who good players are and who are not. PvP should be based solely on skill, not on who can spend the most amount of money in a period of 5 minutes on cashpots and cookie packs. Yes, it may be very difficult to kill a 10k HP fighter at level 9x, but in the end, free PvP battles will gain you nothing.

Remember, all you wonderful players of Cypion, 90% charm is not a build ;)

thanks for listening to my endless rant xD

Whutup boy!

But ey- If a person wants to be a dumbass with his/her money, then let him. and people can gossip about him/her in their guilds, whispers, pt chat, etc.

Like what happens when anybody charms =o

Hey so i was right and winner will spend more then he/she will earn? haha lmao :D

And yeah, 90% charms and 50% extender not build. pvp in fiesta complete fail><

Actually wrong- my friends and I discussed this when we looked at Fatals leveling.

Because- If fatal gives it all he's got 'til he's far enough ahead of everyone he can just relax

Beginning of the race: A flash of SC, get ahead of EVERYBODY
Middle of the race: Get a little lax, don't have to spend as much sc
Ending of the race: one last flash of sc, and viola =o

Not to mention that the people who flash away don't have to put up with the KSing BS at spots like Jewel Tree's or Red Nixes =o

First of all Me XD i have shared rooms at high lvls ( notes i had another account but i deleted all the characters)! XD and then yeah charm if you want kill me if you want what did that gain for you at all? a bit of amusment?

If you charm to kick somebody out of an abyss grinding area, you gain an entire room, and faster grinding while you still have charms up =o

[killer_moe101]

lol it'll probably be worth like $500 to them after you take the money offthey spend on SC and less because the amont will go down

[LotoPhoenixLord]

It would not be a suprise to me if the first 3 people (in the month time period got the 1mill. SC and it would be funny if EVERY ONE got SC after hiting lv 105 but with it decreasing so like say your number mmm100 person to hit lv 105 and if every one got SC as it lowers you get say it lowered to 4000SC that how much you get. but there is no say about that happening so it likely not going to happen (but be funny if it did)

[jadedeepfire]

lol i totally agree,OS just wants to make money

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

rofl xD 10char

[aim2kill]

i love how people say no flaming/spamming/arguements etc. yet make idiotic posts to stirr things up lmao.. i entirely get what your saying and i honestly don't care lolz

this is exactly why i didn't do the contest because it would've been a HUGE waste of time.

the facts are there is simply too much mass sc using constant teleporting noobs it doesn't even matter if you can level faster than them without SC or are simply better.. you WILL be passed

therefore making it completely pointless to join such a meaningless competition.

[aim2kill]

oh and btw considering how much SC 1st 2nd and 3rd will waste by the time they get there.. yeah that just proves it's not worth it rofl

[revivaljade]

i love how people say no flaming/spamming/arguements etc. yet make idiotic posts to stirr things up lmao.. i entirely get what your saying and i honestly don't care lolz

this is exactly why i didn't do the contest because it would've been a HUGE waste of time.

the facts are there is simply too much mass sc using constant teleporting noobs it doesn't even matter if you can level faster than them without SC or are simply better.. you WILL be passed

therefore making it completely pointless to join such a meaningless competition.

Yeah, as soon as I heard about the competition, I was like, "Nope. Can't do it. I'm not willing to spend a billion dollars, and that's the only way I could possibly win."

And with the flame thing. One chick that posted said one of the most ignorant things, far out. Just had to tell her what she sounded like.

[omnipotentnicky]

I apologise, but that was completely unnecessary, and a tad annoying.
I already pointed out that the gameplay is easier for SC-users, and bragging about yourself over having sparkcash items to make it easier for you/make your character look nice is hardly anything to be proud of.

"Hi. Stop complaining, because I pay for you to play, I have the money, so I level easier, look hotter and beat you at pretty much everything in game. No offence." That's pretty much what you're saying.

Well yeah, you kind of remind me of those stereotyped dumb cheerleader chicks from the cheesy american teenager movies. No offence.

P.S: It's true that most of the time, SC-users are OP compared to non-SC users, but it's really funny, sometimes you see a player completely free of CS parading around fbz owning all the cash shop users.

Lmao. Oh boy. Seems someone's way too serious for forums.
What I said was a JOKE, for all of the people that do not have SC and complain about it.
What you said was completely unnecessary, also.
And making my quote in your signature was by far the most immature thing I've seen yet.

Anyway, back on topic.
SC users are not necessarily better at the game, is what I was trying to get at before I got rudely mocked.

[artboi]

1,000,000 sc
Let see...
16285 sc - exp boost 100% for 30days = 25$ more or less
2095 sc - sc pots 2k hp/sp = 3$ more or less and they might last you 5 days. 3x6=18$ thats around 12,600sc.
6295 sc - blessing of teva 30days thats 9$ more or less.
4295 sc - 30 day mount = 6$
5825 sc - angel suit 30days 8$
3625 sc - swim suit 30days 5.5$
1795 sc - glasses 30days 2.5$
4895 sc - tough cookies 6-7$ considering you use up all your charms you might buy this more than once through out a month.
3115 sc - charm bundle 4$

thats around 56k sc... and thats not even counting the enhancements which is about 20$-25$ per +9 14k sc to 21k sc t3 around 30$ to 45$ t4 ( 21k sc to 31.5k sc).

yea... this race is bullsh...

[jadedeepfire]

^awesomesauce calculator!!
i fail at maths,but i can tell that for hit 105 in 1 month u have to waste ALOOOOOOT
I want to buy ps3 more than hit 105 :D

[shadowslayer1234]

Hai, crazy levelers and/or Cypion Community ^_^.

State that I am contradicting myself if you must...
But, most players here have mistaken themselves into believing that whining/complaining about SC 'abusers' will change anything. The one thing your complaining is actually proving, is that you obviously are quite stupid in a way. What will your complaining do? Start fights? Arguments? Rivalrys? Way to go, son! It's not like Outspark will get rid of SC, and it's definitely not like the SC buyers will stop 'abusing' sparkcash. Are you out of your mind?

1. Yes, SC users will obviously level quicker and more efficiently than non cs users, but that is how Fiesta is. If you're not happy with it, then this is not the game for you.

2. Why do you think Outspark created a competition such as this? (Involving sparkcash) Seriously, think about it.

3. Complaining will only result in flames and server drama. I understand if you're upset about the whole SC thing, but don't inflict the damage upon others.

4. In the end, this whole race to 105 thing is a COMPETITION. Whining will only slow you down furthermore.

5. And, for goodness' sake, don't brag about having sparkcash, it won't help you in any way.

One or two threads discussing SC usage was enough, but now it's just getting tedious and annoying. Everyone is aware of the imbalance between SC vs Non-SC, so you can stop complaining and bringing it up. I'm sorry, but nothing is going to change.

P.S: I'm sorry if this thread may seem offensive in any way, I really do feel for both sides (SC Users/Non-SC users) but after a week, your forum already consists of hate/spam threads. Is this how you'd like to start off on a new server?

Please, don't flame or anything, I really do hope that the creation of this thread was in goodwill. I tried my hardest to sound polite, and so should you!

If someone wanted to know, the 1,000,000 sparkcash equals to USD $1428.57 (Thanks to leobaloy ^^)

EDIT: I don't think people are getting it. The sole message of this thread is to say that creating threads/complaining about how overpowered SC-users are won't result in anything but hate, flames and arguments. Although it is true that SC = Power, your complaining will not do anything. Nothing will change. If you can't accept that, Fiesta is not the game for you.


Thank you for making this forum. Everything you say is true.

[tempacc]

SC = Power

Wrong. SC only amplifies power. Charms for example. 0 x 50% = 0. :D

Edit: Lol. Just realized that sounded kinda like I was dissagreeing with this thread. Just clarifying that I agree, the complaining about people using excess amounts of SC is getting out of hand. :|

[yaseeda]

Just one thing. Outspark should allow LEGALY selling store goods for in game money. Thats only solution to finally balance game and make fair pvp. In other mmorpgs i played such trades legally allowed, i dunno why only outspark has problems with payments/credit cards ._."

[revivaljade]

Lmao. Oh boy. Seems someone's way too serious for forums.
What I said was a JOKE, for all of the people that do not have SC and complain about it.
What you said was completely unnecessary, also.
And making my quote in your signature was by far the most immature thing I've seen yet.

Anyway, back on topic.
SC users are not necessarily better at the game, is what I was trying to get at before I got rudely mocked.

I'll show you immature.

Your MUM is the most immature thing i've seen yet! And not just her face ;)

[randomisfunny]

:p:o:p:o:p:o
Omg like I totally agree about the whole fighting part... fighting for me is like way ~starts stickin head in cookie jar~ to complicated for me and like ~gets head stuck in cookie jar~ I just aint a smart person enough to fight about all the things ~looks for crumbs in cookie jar~ and like its to much drama for me... ~Yells "Wait u did hear what I said right?!"~ ...oh boy...what did I do wrong now hmm... OMG A CRUMB!!! *o*
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/RandomIsFunny/kim-signature-1.gif
:p:o:p:o:p:o

[molineaux8]

what i think is quite funny is they are making so much money. because technically, that 1million sparkcash is computer generated and OS just inputs a code and gives that for FREE. this was a brilliant idea imo because SC is just a made up currency that OS can write a program to make more of it.

[randomisfunny]

:p:o:p:o:p:o
I don't see that funny but thats because I am pretty dumb lol. I don't understand much when the words get longer or cut down to like example: CPU lol. The only cut down words I know are like... Bc, lmao, lol, jk, bc, omg... and small ones like that. lol. Sorry I felt the need to show my stupidity to all so they know what I don't understand. That or I think that that I thought that too. *o*
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/RandomIsFunny/kim-signature-1.gif
:p:o:p:o:p:o

[jadedeepfire]

Wrong. SC only amplifies power.

Fail.
Just fail.

[gtlcpimp]

what i think is quite funny is they are making so much money. because technically, that 1million sparkcash is computer generated and OS just inputs a code and gives that for FREE. this was a brilliant idea imo because SC is just a made up currency that OS can write a program to make more of it.

There is no amount of Spark Cash, it is just non existent. The only thing that has an amount of spark cash is your account. If they want you to have more, then all they have to do is change the value within your accounts table entry on the database, no program involved because there really is no actual amount of it (hence 'made up').

[lilaznboy13]

Just one thing. Outspark should allow LEGALY selling store goods for in game money. Thats only solution to finally balance game and make fair pvp. In other mmorpgs i played such trades legally allowed, i dunno why only outspark has problems with payments/credit cards ._."

Yes, heres my main man ! They should allow people to buy sc stuff in the game so that people out there that dont feel like spending money( going on dates aint cheap ;O) can and is rich inside game( me kinda :P) can buy the sc without trouble. Also a legal bot would be pretty sick O.o ( ive played game that had it and was pretty fair)

[johnkx]

haha.. wow. I think fiesta's SC OR Cash shop* is more cheaper than other MMOs.. Just thank OS that they make it cheap unlike those mmos that sells something that only last for 2 hours and costs 3 bucks. Not naming any f2p MMos, figure it out.

PS: I dislike the thing about the costumes that only last for 30 days. I know they have stats but some players buy them just for fashion, I would buy those costumes if they became permanent even w/o the stats, Just to make my character look cool. Permanent Costume, w/o stats just for looks = Awesome